NationStates Jolt Archive

I am sure you have all read the previous thread.

Attican Allies:
Attica (duh)
McLeod03
Kahta

ViZion Allies:
ViZion (duh)
Dr. Twist (ignored until he figures out the difference between IC and OOC)
Terronian

My national information:

http://www.kuattech.com/wehr.xls
http://www.kuattech.com/map.jpg - yellow = possibly landing zones, protected by seawall if on attican mainland, else, standard beach defenses.

I expect all other participants to post similar information.

I am a Vizion ally and have 6 Million troops in his nation and can easily call up more.

i dont have a map of my nation but i can teel you that my nations is mostly landlocked but does have a small 200mile coastline. My capitol city is Terria. Most of my nation is plains ecept for the moutains in the north. My nations is shaped like a Trianle except for the west coast which is round shaped.

im a ViZion allie duh

The name of a nation that will KICK YOU ASS!

Skywathcer AA guns are brought into capitol city and put in AA nest.


http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/himars4.jpg

I'm neutral in the conflict for now but will most likely join ViZion later. (one question Attican looking at the world what ocean are you on/near..) *will post information later once he find map*

The SCR of Malatose will aid ViZion (as stated in another thread) with aid needed.The High Naval Command has ordered the 1st Soviet Fleet to set sail towards an "unknown" destination.

2 Orel-II Class Carriers
6 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
4 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
6 Kara Class Guided Missile Destroyers
6 Kirov Class Cruisers
9 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
9 Kresta Class Cruisers
10 Sverdlov Class Cruisers
5 Bora Class Corvettes
10 Parchim Class Corvettes
10 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
5 Krival Class Frigate
4 Coastal Mine Hunters

The SCR of Malatose will aid ViZion (as stated in another thread) with aid needed.The High Naval Command has ordered the 1st Soviet Fleet to set sail towards an "unknown" destination.

2 Orel-II Class Carriers
6 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
4 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
6 Kara Class Guided Missile Destroyers
6 Kirov Class Cruisers
9 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
9 Kresta Class Cruisers
10 Sverdlov Class Cruisers
5 Bora Class Corvettes
10 Parchim Class Corvettes
10 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
5 Krival Class Frigate
4 Coastal Mine Hunters
9 Oscar Class Submarines
9 Kilo-Class Submarines

OOC: Well, considering that Nationstates isn't on Earth, more of a jupiter size planet, I am on the Germanic Ocean, which a large number of my allies are also attached to.

Mal: Do you have any specs for those? Also, where is your map, for all of you :(

OOC: My country doenst have a very big or great navy but we do have a larfe andvanced airforce.

OOC: Well, considering that Nationstates isn't on Earth, more of a jupiter size planet, I am on the Germanic Ocean, which a large number of my allies are also attached to.

Mal: Do you have any specs for those? Also, where is your map, for all of you :(

i told you i dont have a map and dont own a website to make one on. so i cant give ya a map.

OOC: go here for specs on my ships,http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ship.htm

Note: I have updated most ships with modern Radar etc.

OOC: 'larfe andvanced airforce.'?
I will assume that means Large Advanced airforce, which by any means cannot possibly match up with mine :) Also, why are you on ViZions side anyways? You all do know that he is the aggressor?

OOC: 'larfe andvanced airforce.'?
I will assume that means Large Advanced airforce, which by any means cannot possibly match up with mine :) Also, why are you on ViZions side anyways? You all do know that he is the aggressor?

No you are the Aggressor you admitted it in the other thread :roll:

OOC: When? VIZIO is the one who declared war on me, and I have proof. He told my government to stand down and be annexed, or he would destroy me. Obviously, I said 'try your best.', and he declared war.

My military size is as follows

Terronian Poeples Army

400,000 soldiers
500 medics
3000 covert ops
1000 special unita

Terronian Guard Division

500,000 Guard Infantry
500 medics
1000 covert ops
1000 special units
200 spys

Terronian Liberation Army

200,000 Liberator Armymen
200 medics
no covert ops
no special units
500 spys

I refuse to tell you how many machines i have as that is classified alos dont acuse me of godmodding because military service is compulsatory in my country and i used to have a big nation that rivaled ViZion but it got deleted.

OOC: Godmodding. You have to state your entire military OOC.

OOC: Link no workie.

OOC: A funny thing is though is taht when i had my other nation i had like 3 wars with ViZion we hated each other but now i usaully support him.

Attaboy, Twist..........don't take any shit from these swine.

The Alliance Regioni Militaria has called up the following forces:

From:
The Borderlands of Black Shadows, 3 B-2 Bombers armed with WMD
2 F-14 Tomcat Squadrons
2 Mig-31 Foxhound Squadrons
3 F/A-Hornet Squadrons
2 B-1 B Lancer Squadrons

2 Invincible Class Carriers w/full
complement fighters
1 Midway Class Carrier w/full
complement fighters

200 T-06 MBT's
100 T-04 Light Tanks
50 VAT-01 MAS

35,000 Armored Troopers


From: The Holy Empire of the Knights of Hell:

2 Nimitz Class Carriers w/ full
complement of 85 fighters each
10 SSN-774 Virginia Class SUbs
20 SSN-21 Sea Wolf Subs
100 M60 Patton MBT's
10 B-1B Lancer Hvy Bombers
50 Ka-58 Black Ghost Copters
2 Iowa Class Battleships
10 B-2 Spirit Hvy Bombers
each w/ 16 WMD
50 F-22 Raptor Fighters

From: The Theocracy of the False Goddess:

3 Kirov Class Hvy Missile Ships
3 Alaska Class Battlecruisers
10 Sumner Class Destroyers
200 Triton Amphibious Tanks
20 Goliath Ultra Hvy Tanks
100 Bulldog Tanks


Other nations of ARM are presently responding.
Updates to follow.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

OCC:

Dr_Twist:Actually he is wrong, Attican is supporting terrorism, if u read a few days back we launched an invasion into Vizions Neighbor who is a Terrorist nation we conquered it he gathered support and Attican is one of the nations that is support him. There all Terrorists and that’s why there is a war.

Attican Empire:OOC: Dr_Twist, supporting terrorism and supporting nationalism are two different things. Also, your definition of a terrorist nation is most likely different then mine. I saw it as imperialism, and an attempt to annex a nation.

Dr_Twist:Well atleast he just admited that i was right.....

It Clearly shows that you are a Terrorist Nation who is Bent on the Destruction of Vizion.

An Emergency Meeting of GAPTS, ASDU and RBA has been called into the situation.

OOC: No, for several reasons:
1. Which nation was this?
2. Again, I have proof. This war was based on something completely different in another thread. If you wish to deny this, I will simply ignore you because in that case, you are a retarted mouse :)

OCC:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123893&start=20

Since Attican Empire refuse to acknowledge that any of this happened his is a link to the thread on Page 2 is what was stated, proving he just blatantly lied to you all in this thread :roll:

OOC: Ok, you are now officially a retarded mouse. Also, you don't seem to understand the difference between OOC and IC.

I think the truth is well reported in this thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123874&highlight=

OCC: I do have evidence in my possession that proves everything i have stated, but can’t released to the public because of where it was obtained from.

OOC: My Military.


Population: 1,852,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $64,820,000,000,000
National Budget: $34,694,775,360,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 4.82%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 9%
Military Budget: $3,122,529,782,400


-----------------------
Red Army:
16,000,000 Men total
10,000,000 Active Service
6,000,000 Reserves
----------------
Red Army "Spetsnaz" Special Forces
25,000
---------------------------
Red Army Medics:
100,000
----------------------
Red Army Repair Crew:
300,000
--------------------
Red Army Weapons.
Army has choice of M-16 and Ak-47 Assault Rifles
Secondary Weapon is the 9mm M9 Baretta..standard issued
Soldiers are equipped with Gas Mask and Biohazard Battlefield Suits
----------------------
Red Army Fighting Vehicles:
56,000 BMP-3 Fighting Vehicles.
60,000 BTR-80 Armored Personnel Carrier
----------------------
Red Army Transports:
75,000 Humvees
73,000 APCs
---------------------
Red Army Tanks:
30,000 T-90S Tanks
20,000 T-80U Tanks
10,000 GT-1 Tanks
------------------------
Rocket Launcher Systems:
30,000 9K58 Smerch Rocket Launcher.
------------------------------
Towed Artillery:
30,000 152-mm Towed Gun-Howitzer
------------------------
Anti-Aircraft Weapons:
30,000 ZSU-57 Anti-Aircraft Guns
---------------------------------------------
Anti-Tank Weapons:
40,000 Ataka-V VIKhR 9M120 Anti-Tank Weapon
-----------------------------
Self-Propelled Artillery:
30,000 ASU-85 Airborne Assault Gun
30,000 2S23 Nona-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortor
-------------------------
Nuclear-Powered Ballistic Missiles Submarines:
17 Typhoon Class Ballistic Submarines
10 Delta-IV Ballistic Missles Submarines
--------------------------------
Nuclear Powered Cruise Missle Submarines:
13 Oscar II Submarines
10 Oscar I Submarines
--------------------------
Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarines:
50 Akula Class Submarines
---------------------------
Diesel Attack Submarines:
19 Kilo Class Submarines
------------------------
Aircraft Carriers:
5 Orel-II Class Carriers
---------------------
Red Navy Cruisers:
22 Kirov Class Cruisers
10 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
13 Kresta Class Cruisers
10 Sverdlov Class Cruiers
-----------------------
Red Navy Destroyers:
20 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
16 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
19 Kara Class Guided Missile Destroyers
--------------------------------
Red Navy Corvettes:
25 Bora Class Corvettes
30 Parchim Class Corvettes
14 Molniya Missile Boats
-----------------------------
Red Navy Frigates
38 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
17 Krival Class Frigate
---------------------------
Red Navy Coastal Mine Hunter
19 Sveriv Class Mine Hunters
10 Kemiv Class Mine Hunters
-------------------------------
Red Airforce Carrier Aircraft Fighter-Bombers
300 Su-33
----------------------
Fighter Aircraft:
100 MiG-29ks
-----------------------------
Red Navy Troop Landing Craft:
1,000 Pomornik Class Amphibious Landing Craft
1,000 Ivan Rogov Landing Craft
----------------------------------
Red Airforce Rotary Aircraft:
1,100 Mi-28 HAVOCS
1.500 MI-24 HIND D/E
1,000 MI-8T Transport Copters
-----------------------------
Red Airforce Transport Aircraft:
500 AN-124 CONDOR(ANTONOV)
300 AN-72 Coaler
------------------------------
Red Airforce Fighter Planes:
1,500 Su-27 Flankers
1,500 MiG-29 Fulcrums
-----------------------
Red Army Fighter Bombers:
1,500 Su-37 Super Flankers
1,500 Su-30MKK
-----------------
Red Airforce Bombers:
900 Tu-160 BLACKJACK Long-Range Bombers
200 Tu-22M Bears Bombers
-----------------
Tanker Aircraft:
400 I1-78 Midas
------------------------
Nuclear/Theater Missles:
500 RT-21Ms
-----------------------
Nuclear ICBMS:
150 SS-25 Scapels
150 Topol-M SS-27s
-----------------------
Nuclear Bombs:
13,000 10 Megaton Bombs
-----------------------
Surface to Air Missles:
600 Triumf S-400

OOC: Again, you are a dyslexic retarded mouse. Don't make me go further. You are hereby ignored from the RP until you learn the following things:

1. The concept of OOC
2. The concept of IC
3. How the two are interrelated
4. Proper RPing

There are several useful threads on the subject. I suggest you use the handy search feature: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/search.php

OOC: Again, you are a dyslexic retarded mouse. Don't make me go further. You are hereby ignored from the RP until you learn the following things:

1. The concept of OOC
2. The concept of IC
3. How the two are interrelated
4. Proper RPing

There are several useful threads on the subject. I suggest you use the handy search feature: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/search.php


OCC:
I only brang up that OCC to prove something, it is still an OCC, but the people who are supporting you can still read it.

2nd the information i have isn't OCC at all and Ignoring me for using that Information, you are a terrible role player for ignoring me on information that i have obtained legally and isn't occ'ed at all :roll:

Ok heres my map folks ill edit this post once i do a re done complete military...But i doubt i will offically enter this conflict with anything but my special operations units.
http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=7408231

the nation of Pyronation is behind you 100% i send 1 million bum chums to your aid

OOC: Dr Twist, you just confirmed what I said. If you knew how to RP, you would know the following:

1. You must describe everything you have OOC, so, if you say you have an informant, you must state who it is OOC, otherwise it is godmodding, as you cannot prove otherwise either.
2. The person who gathered the information from had to have RPed with me to get the information, otherwise they godmodded, and you are godmodding by using their information which was godmodded.
3. Again, he attacked me because of other reasons. I dunno what country you are talking about, I assume A-Sonic, and that conflict was handled peacefully.

OOC: Dr Twist, you just confirmed what I said. If you knew how to RP, you would know the following:

1. You must describe everything you have OOC, so, if you say you have an informant, you must state who it is OOC, otherwise it is godmodding, as you cannot prove otherwise either.
2. The person who gathered the information from had to have RPed with me to get the information, otherwise they godmodded, and you are godmodding by using their information which was godmodded.
3. Again, he attacked me because of other reasons. I dunno what country you are talking about, I assume A-Sonic, and that conflict was handled peacefully.

Well what ever then can we just get on with the war and ill change them all to OCC:'s if that makes u happy....

OOC: You can't use the information in the war though, therefore, you better come up with a good reason to support him :/ Plus, I am still waiting for the Kahta player to get online.

OOC: This is getting redicoulous. Actaully and i hate to say this Dr Twist but Attican is right about the terrorist thing.

OOC: You can't use the information in the war though, therefore, you better come up with a good reason to support him :/ Plus, I am still waiting for the Kahta player to get online.

OCC: the Evidence gathered was from *** source and the information gathered was things that Egtystan ( i completely forgot his name hope its right ) send throw PM to certain people.

Ok Dr Twist and Attican please shut up and quit arguing like an old married couple!

:)

OOC: You can't use the information in the war though, therefore, you better come up with a good reason to support him :/ Plus, I am still waiting for the Kahta player to get online.

OCC: the Evidence gathered was from *** source and the information gathered was things that Egtystan ( i completely forgot his name hope its right ) send throw PM to certain people.

his name was Egyptstan

Ok Dr Twist and Attican please shut up and quit arguing like an old married couple!

Well thank you....

Now lets move of this Subject back to the actual war....

OOC: In that case, Egyptstan lied a bit... in which case, you have intelligence, but it is faulty, and I could easily shoot thru it.

OOC: Comdidia, your nation looks like Canada :) Also, assuming that the NS world is about the size of jupiter, if your nations curvature is proper, Comdidia is the size of many earths...

OOC: Lets get back to the war please.

OOC: In that case, Egyptstan lied a bit... in which case, you have intelligence, but it is faulty, and I could easily shoot thru it.

OOC: Comdidia, your nation looks like Canada :) Also, assuming that the NS world is about the size of jupiter, if your nations curvature is proper, Comdidia is the size of many earths...

ok lets leave it there and back to the war.

http://ben.ugbox.net/nz_navy.jpg

Dr_Twist Coast Guard has been Mobilized

To save confusion and so on lets use a RL map of somewhere? Maybe north America or something?

OOC: No, because its an IC war... if it werent we could. I could make up a general map if you want of overall locations...

OOC: No, because its an IC war... if it werent we could. I could make up a general map if you want of overall locations...

We need somthing to role play on....

OOC: In that case, Egyptstan lied a bit... in which case, you have intelligence, but it is faulty, and I could easily shoot thru it.

OOC: Comdidia, your nation looks like Canada :) Also, assuming that the NS world is about the size of jupiter, if your nations curvature is proper, Comdidia is the size of many earths...

ok lets leave it there and back to the war.

http://ben.ugbox.net/nz_navy.jpg

Dr_Twist Coast Guard has been Mobilized

OOC: Nice boat buddy. Thats what i go duck hunting in.

OOC: As I said, I will make a map if you want...

OOC: When? VIZIO is the one who declared war on me, and I have proof. He told my government to stand down and be annexed, or he would destroy me. Obviously, I said 'try your best.', and he declared war. For justicied reasons: You committed genocide.

OOC: Nice boat buddy. Thats what i go duck hunting in.

LOL...

Yes a Map would be really nice so we know what we are Role Playing on.

Dr_Twist Armed forces have Begun testing Brand New MLRS Systems that would be expected to be used in the war.

http://www.digitalcube.com/war/mx.jpg

Private Ramsey looked over the vast mountains of Northern Terronian. He was in the Terronian Guard Army stationed at Dimitri Tabolov Military Base. He was wondering about his future as there is a war brewing by ViZion. If shipped out he could die and would never return to his wive and 2 year old son.

OOC: This 'genocide' was over 40 NS years ago, and was commited by a different leader... besides the fact that the people killed were guerillas in a CIVIL WAR. I beleive it is allowed in international law to kill enemy soldiers? Guerillas are considered soldiers, are they not?

OOC: Is this continuation from last war, or from when I declared war? I just got on... been busy today

OOC: When? VIZIO is the one who declared war on me, and I have proof. He told my government to stand down and be annexed, or he would destroy me. Obviously, I said 'try your best.', and he declared war. For justicied reasons: You committed genocide.

OOC: Bout frikkin time you got here ViZion.

I have contacted Russian Forces he has given his full Support behind Vizion and will aid Vizion if he needs aid.

OOC: When you declared war. I just thought I would say that your motive would be like this:

There was a civil war in Germany between Royalists and Socialists. The entire socialist population revolted, and most became guerillas. The Royalists won the war, and 99% of the socialist soldiers were killed, which was 98% of the socialist population. 40 years later, another country decides to attack the country based on this.

I am on Attika's side. I was an august nation of about 950 million people but I lost that nation so I had to create a new one. Attika will vouch for me in that respect.

Yes I will. He is 'Vampiric Dominion' on my map. We are still waiting for them to reactivate it :(

Terronian News Reporter trying to get into ViZion to give live updates for the Terronian poeple is captured by ViZion border guards who explained to him that the borders are closed. Terronian ask ViZIon if news crews may eneter ViZion.

Attican Empire, we got your back. I'll contact my allies, too.

I'll mobilize my forces for war... is this space, near future, or modern? (I'm w/ ViZion)

OOC: Okay I im now lost as to whats goin on.

Can we please get a map and some form of Knowledge of where troops are and where the front line is.

OOC: Depends on your definition of near future. I use technology that will be out by 2008...

This is Modern Pure and simple.

Hell this is gonna turn into World War um 27 i think. Theres been alot of world wars. Anyway I can already see lots of people gonna die.

OOC: Twist, I can only make a general map of the region. It is your duty to make a map of your nations... The front line is in the ocean and in the air... no troops have landed anywhere, and currently, there are no prospects on either side of it happening soon.

ViZion, we salute you! Egypstan, I'll get my revenge on you for killing my people for no reason!

Hell this is gonna turn into World War um 27 i think. Theres been alot of world wars. Anyway I can already see lots of people gonna die.

This anit a World War it will be a large war but not a World war.

OOC: Twist, I can only make a general map of the region. It is your duty to make a map of your nations... The front line is in the ocean and in the air... no troops have landed anywhere, and currently, there are no prospects on either side of it happening soon.

That would be Vizions reasonability to do the map because i will be using his nation as a Launch pad, So we need a Map of both Vizion and where we are invading.

OOC: You already have my map... also, I propose that we semi-close the RP, since it is getting really really crowded...

OOC: You already have my map... also, I propose that we semi-close the RP, since it is getting really really crowded...

What Map?


VIZION MAKE A MAP OF YOUR NATION (sorry about caps but i want him to see this)

OOC: http://www.kuattech.com/map.jpg - that is my national map. Once ViZion makes a map, i will include it, also, I want his allies to make maps to, since if I attack YOU, I would like to know what I am doing...

My nation is currently conscripting and most of my people have military training.

OOC: http://www.kuattech.com/map.jpg - that is my national map. Once ViZion makes a map, i will include it, also, I want his allies to make maps to, since if I attack YOU, I would like to know what I am doing...
Ill make a map of my nation if you attack me, which i highly doubt you will, But basically my Nation is basically Japan in a massive ocean.

OOC: Twist, you can almost bet that I will sooner or later. Because I am making a big map with all the nations, I wanted to have maps...

We are on the "heel" of Italy ("the boot")... I'll have to make a new one, because of the fact that the one I use to have was lost when my comp crashed...

OOC: Twist, you can almost bet that I will sooner or later. Because I am making a big map with all the nations, I wanted to have maps... And official one, or just for your own knowledge? There have been multiple tries, including my friend (who's was the most successful that I know of...) but all have ended up failing, trying to be the "official" map

OOC: Twist, you can almost bet that I will sooner or later. Because I am making a big map with all the nations, I wanted to have maps...

I will find it funny if you try becaues u will be completly wipped out by my navy which is F**KING Massive.

OOC: Dr_Twist, you alraedy know that I will scour your navy for any godmodding, and if I find any...

Also, you should know that the worst enemy of a navy is an airforce, which I have much of.

Also, you read the intro requiretments, you HAVE to post or link to your military specs OOC, as everyone else (ViZion still must) has.

Also, ViZion, only a map of the nations involved here.

OOC: Twist, you can almost bet that I will sooner or later. Because I am making a big map with all the nations, I wanted to have maps...

I will find it funny if you try becaues u will be completly wipped out by my navy which is F**KING Massive. lol

OOC: Atta, if I may make a suggestion... edit your first post to say that people may join sides, so they know it's not a closed or invite-only RP...

OOC: It is semi-closed... I don't want too many people, since then the wars get confused, and overall, they get screwed up.

OOC: Dr_Twist, you alraedy know that I will scour your navy for any godmodding, and if I find any...

Also, you should know that the worst enemy of a navy is an airforce, which I have much of.

Also, you read the intro requiretments, you HAVE to post or link to your military specs OOC, as everyone else (ViZion still must) has.

Also, ViZion, only a map of the nations involved here.

You must Remember that i am a Nation 2 times your Size, and i do have a good Sized Air force as well which could take on your air force rather easy. 42% of my Military Budget goes to my Navy for Home Defense, You could still have a lot of Planes but even if you got ashore you will have to Take on the National Guard, Attacking my nation would be an act of Suicide.

OOC: I have allies.. plus the fact that you STILL HAVENT POSTED ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR MILITARY LIKE THE REQUIREMENTS SAY :(

could i join on Attica's side?

OOC: I have allies.. plus the fact that you STILL HAVENT POSTED ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR MILITARY LIKE THE REQUIREMENTS SAY :(


OCC: Well Presently i have 6 Million Troops in Vizion with 3,000 M1A1 Tanks 1,000 T-90 Tanks and 1,000 Challenger 2 Tanks also have 100,000 Vehicles (including cargo Trucks and Hummers and so on).

Also have 3,000 Pieces of Artillery
1,200 MLRS Systems
6,000 Patriot Missile Systems
2,000 Anti Ship Missiles
And another 2,000 Anti Missile Missiles

OOC: Atheists, if you wish.

Also, Dr_Twist, please remember to use OOC:, unless this is IC... in which case thanks for the info :)

Also, I would prefer it if you put it into a form like I did...

yeah i made a map and got it online il have the adress ina sec

ooc-Comdidia military-
Total Military Numbering- 20,490,000
Ground Forces- 7 million
Air Forces- 4 Million
Naval Forces- 5 million
Other- 3,490,000
Special Forces- 1 million

Other Includes all non combat work, supply line drivers, support crews etc.
Rough Estimates on Actual Break Downs-
roughly 800,000 medical personal (Ground)
Around 1 million Combat Engineers
other's are infantry, officers, snipers etc.

Air Force-
2 Million Pilots
1.5 Million Ground Crew
.5 Million Transporters and Other Jobs

Naval Forces-
5 million serving on ships and in reserve on land.

Special Forces-
Active 500,000
Inactive- 500,000

Deplyment numbers if involved-
Minimum Requirements for aid-
45 naval ships
23,000 special forces
600 Air Force Planes as support craft for navy.
(thats last known statistics, i'm going to be re-working them and currently my military is 1% of my total pop.)

OCC: Also have in the Area my 5th and 6th Fleets.

Sorry i lost the complete list of Ships and will update later....

/me waits for Russian forces to get his ass into this Thread.....

Terronian Map:

http://www.webspawner.com/users/terronian/index.html

once your there go to the link that says free web pages at webspawners, click on it. Then click the button that says modify it. Then were it says account type terronian and for password put 123321

my nation has a small coast on which there is only one city, inland it is mountainous, i don't have much of a navy except for 2 carriers, 2 battleships and their support vessels, army has M1A5 tanks, Airforce, has F-22's and Ann-225's.

OOC: Note that I will be watching Russian Forces strictly, he is a known godmodder...

OOC: Note that I will be watching Russian Forces strictly, he is a known godmodder...

yer thats Understandable, but he said we will only step in if we need help with anything.

Hope your happy with my massive military numbers of 23,000 deployable people :) anyways im out for night try not to make this thread over 10 pages by tomorrow if at all possible. (i wont be able to get on untill 3pm est so please dont make it grow to much...)

Can we plz update to see whos on whos side.....?

I will soon...

Anphibous vehicles being tested at Remington Naval Base in Terronian.

Your map doesnt work.

Your map doesnt work.

yes it does once your at the page theres a link to webspawners click it. Once your there youll see 2 places to write. Under adress type terronian and under password put in 123321. Then youl be able to see the map but its a oneway website.

Cant you make it any simpler...

does terronian have any coastal fortifications

The Dr_Twist Government has Called up Reserves Around Dr_Twist to begin Mobilizing and Put Defenses in place of the Home Land.

12 Million Will begin With Defensive Duties of the Home Land

4 Million More Troops will Begin Mobilization into Vizion with a Further 4,000 Tanks and 80,000 Vehicles and other Weaponry.

Cargo Plane have Begun taking off from Dr_Twist to Vizion.

http://www.astronomija.co.yu/istorija/letovi/buran/An225_2.jpg

um let me think il try and find another way wait a sec.

Russian Forces will bring in its full military might into this war with the help of the Red Bloc Army. Its time for the Attican empire to fall in the name of the motherland.

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:Ps12E-3jb7cJ:www.2001exhibit.org/arts/img/cccp_2010_patch3.gif

More info to follow in our involvement.

Russian Forces will bring in its full military might into this war with the help of the Red Bloc Army. Its time for the Attican empire to fall in the name of the motherland.

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:Ps12E-3jb7cJ:www.2001exhibit.org/arts/img/cccp_2010_patch3.gif

More info to follow in our involvement.

The Dr_Twist Government applauds Russian Forces for there decision.

I am going offline for a while and hopefully the war would of begun by the time i get back.

From: Attican Ministry of Foreign Affairs
To: Dr_Twist

Peace Treaty possibility

Quote Kaiser Wilhelm
We have no wish to combat with your nation, nor do our people. In exchange for a peace treaty with your people, we may pay your nation cash or technology, or otherwise. Again, we have no wish to fight you nation, however, if you force us to, we will fight back, and if history has any lesson, we have grown accustomed to fighting nations many times larger then our own.

does terronian have any coastal fortifications

no

Cant you make it any simpler...

srry i cant

From: Attican Ministry of Foreign Affairs
To: Dr_Twist

Peace Treaty possibility

Quote Kaiser Wilhelm
We have no wish to combat with your nation, nor do our people. In exchange for a peace treaty with your people, we may pay your nation cash or technology, or otherwise. Again, we have no wish to fight you nation, however, if you force us to, we will fight back, and if history has any lesson, we have grown accustomed to fighting nations many times larger then our own.


If you promise to undeclare your war with ViZion i will sign your treaty

OOC: oops forgot to put ooc in front of the crap i said oh well

OOC: Terronian, I wasnt the one that declared war on ViZion, he declared war on me.

OOC: Terronian, I wasnt the one that declared war on ViZion, he declared war on me.


well in that case if you will try to seak a dimplomatic solution istead of seeking military solutions

OOC: Diplomatic already failed.

anti-ship and anti-air missile platforms are being constructed at Al-quada, our only port city.

OOC: then i cannot sign the treaty but i will not attack unless im attacked so thats kinda nice for you.

anti-ship and anti-air missile platforms are being constructed at Al-quada, our only port city.


OOC: what kin of ignorant person names there city Al Quida after what they did on Sep 11. I oughta smack you silly.

OOC: Okay know where were we srry bout the whole AL Quida thing but im a marine and i was fighting them pigs in Afgahnistan.

it's not pronounced Al-quada as in the terrorist organisation, it's pronounced AL-qwada

it's not pronounced Al-quada as in the terrorist organisation, it's pronounced AL-qwada

OOC: oh well maybe you shoundt make the name so close.

OOC: Anyone else here in any military orginization. And if so where is ya stationed.

OOC: is everyone gone

OOC: We all ran away.

OOC: We all ran away.

lol

Dinner for me now.

This is my full military.


30 million in the Army
5 million in the navy
3 million in the airforce
8 million in the Elite Red Guards units (Elite Communist soldiers)
1 million in the Cosmonaut Space Army

100,000 APC's

30,000 BTR-80's
30,000 BMP-2's
20,000 BMP-3's
20,000 BRDM's

110,000 MBT's

40,000 T-72's
30,000 T-80's
30,000 T-90's
10,000 Black Eagles

war ships (Atlantic,Pacific fleet)

8 aircraft carriers
18 ballistic missile subs
50 nuclear subs
80 conventional subs
40 Cruisers
50 destroyers
25 frigates
125 corvettes

10,000 aircraft

Mostly made up of Russian present aircraft

8,903 choppers

mi-28's and Ka-50's plus mi-17's

10,000 Amphibious, Mine, & Support Ships

6 space sattelites. (Classified info)

From: Attican Ministry of Foreign Affairs
To: Dr_Twist

Peace Treaty possibility

Quote Kaiser Wilhelm
We have no wish to combat with your nation, nor do our people. In exchange for a peace treaty with your people, we may pay your nation cash or technology, or otherwise. Again, we have no wish to fight you nation, however, if you force us to, we will fight back, and if history has any lesson, we have grown accustomed to fighting nations many times larger then our own.

The Dr_Twist Government will have a good look at this.

The only reason we are here is because of our Alliance with Vizion, we don't wish to go to war but if we do we mobilize and take full advantage of our nations Size.

The Dr_Twist Government truly doesn't wish to go to war.

OOC: Terronian, I wasnt the one that declared war on ViZion, he declared war on me.


well in that case if you will try to seak a dimplomatic solution istead of seeking military solutions

War was declared on him, due to genocide (sorry if this was covered, reading up on everything atm again...)

BTW, ViZion is dedicated 100% to the elimination of genocidal Governments. We gave them two options, and they took option B, which was to invade them and forcefully end their tyranical, fearless, genocidal Government's rule.

Oh, and I'm doing a massive update on our Military stats, which haven't been updated in 1-2 months... so, I'll post it by morning (well, it's 12:22 am/midnight here in Seattle at time of post... so, later in the morning)

OOC: Again, I relate this to the US invading Germany right now over WW2...

Also, I suggest we close the RP simply to keep people out. We have too many people already... more and it will get clogged and confused...

OOC: Again, I relate this to the US invading Germany right now over WW2...

Also, I suggest we close the RP simply to keep people out. We have too many people already... more and it will get clogged and confused...
OOC: Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the US didn't know at first about what Germany was doing (the Pres. knew, if I'm right, but he also agreed with what Hitler was doing...)
The difference: ViZion is going to strictly due to your actions of genocide, to rid your nation of your Government, and let your people choose a Government for them selves, instead of being ruled by your current genocidal Government.

Also, you should make it Invite-only, not completely closed

OOC: I am referring to NOW, IE, right now, bush deciding to invade Germany over WW2.

Also, my people DO elections. Every 2 months, there is an election... the last time the Kaiser WASN't re-elected, the country fell into a deep economic depression.

Also, it wasn't genocide if we killed another MILITARY FORCE. Do you understand that?

Basically, your claims of genocide are completely unfounded.

bump

Lright we need to have peace ViZion, Attican believes that killing military leaders is not genocide. Attican, ViZion thinks it is. No one is right no one is wrong its a matter of opinion. So you two should dhut up now and just sign a peace treaty.

yawn

Also, it wasn't genocide if we killed another MILITARY FORCE. Do you understand that?

Basically, your claims of genocide are completely unfounded.

From http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123874

I highly doubt there are any communists left in our nation. Most have been purged already.

OOC: Yah, in the war. 98% of the socialist population was either actively involved in military activities during the civil war, 99% of them were killed.

Plus, it was OOC information, you cant use OOC information IC...

OOC: My real name is Jordan

OMG Jordan yells as loud as he can as he angily throws his shoe at his dog thats sitting next to him.

As a member of the JDS i support ViZioN all the way. When the time comes we will send our troops to assist.

you tried to kill fellow communists whih displease Russian Forces. Its time to wipe out the facist scum!

OOC: There is a big difference between fascist and monarchist... also, it was a GOD DAMN CIVIL WAR.

OOC: Yah, in the war. 98% of the socialist population was either actively involved in military activities during the civil war, 99% of them were killed.

Plus, it was OOC information, you cant use OOC information IC...

OOC part 1 - Well, it would have been nice knowing that ahead of time
EDIT: Also, "...either actively involved in military activities during the civic war..." or what? Also, I have a hard time believing nearly all the socialists were taking part in the military...
OOC part 2 - *sighs* Well, you've got a point... wasn't really thinkin about that part...

OOC: My real name is Jordan

OMG Jordan yells as loud as he can as he angily throws his shoe at his dog thats sitting next to him.
...??

As a member of the JDS i support ViZioN all the way. When the time comes we will send our troops to assist.
Thank you for your backup.

OOC: bout frikkin times you guys agreed on something.

A civil war of genocide upon comrades who uphold the true system and ideals.

OOC: Russian Forces is starting to piss me off... if he can't understand the diff. between casualties in a war and genocide...

OCC: You fool its called BS talking when its on ICC. Of course fellow commies will be pissed seeing them dumb. :roll:

OOC: So you were replying IC from an OOC comment... that makes sense...

OCC: It was no reply, it was just a declaration of my stance and disgust of your nations policies. It just sounds dumb to enter a war without sayign anything.

OOC: but it sounds dumb to enter a war while saying that also...

OCC: Maybe i should prepare a 50 line speech to make things better huh? :roll:

The Attican Empire has my support.

ViZion has my full support in this conflict.

My Military:

-----------------------
Red Army:
16,000,000 Men total
10,000,000 Active Service
6,000,000 Reserves
----------------
Red Army "Spetsnaz" Special Forces
25,000
---------------------------
Red Army Medics:
100,000
----------------------
Red Army Repair Crew:
300,000
--------------------
Red Army Weapons.
Army has choice of M-16 and Ak-47 Assault Rifles
Secondary Weapon is the 9mm M9 Baretta..standard issued
Soldiers are equipped with Gas Mask and Biohazard Battlefield Suits
----------------------
Red Army Fighting Vehicles:
56,000 BMP-3 Fighting Vehicles.
60,000 BTR-80 Armored Personnel Carrier
----------------------
Red Army Transports:
75,000 Humvees
73,000 APCs
---------------------
Red Army Tanks:
30,000 T-90S Tanks
20,000 T-80U Tanks
10,000 GT-1 Tanks
------------------------
Rocket Launcher Systems:
30,000 9K58 Smerch Rocket Launcher.
------------------------------
Towed Artillery:
30,000 152-mm Towed Gun-Howitzer
------------------------
Anti-Aircraft Weapons:
30,000 ZSU-57 Anti-Aircraft Guns
---------------------------------------------
Anti-Tank Weapons:
40,000 Ataka-V VIKhR 9M120 Anti-Tank Weapon
-----------------------------
Self-Propelled Artillery:
30,000 ASU-85 Airborne Assault Gun
30,000 2S23 Nona-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortor
-------------------------
Nuclear-Powered Ballistic Missiles Submarines:
17 Typhoon Class Ballistic Submarines
10 Delta-IV Ballistic Missles Submarines
--------------------------------
Nuclear Powered Cruise Missle Submarines:
13 Oscar II Submarines
10 Oscar I Submarines
--------------------------
Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarines:
50 Akula Class Submarines
---------------------------
Diesel Attack Submarines:
19 Kilo Class Submarines
------------------------
Aircraft Carriers:
5 Orel-II Class Carriers
---------------------
Red Navy Cruisers:
22 Kirov Class Cruisers
10 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
13 Kresta Class Cruisers
10 Sverdlov Class Cruiers
-----------------------
Red Navy Destroyers:
20 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
16 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
19 Kara Class Guided Missile Destroyers
--------------------------------
Red Navy Corvettes:
25 Bora Class Corvettes
30 Parchim Class Corvettes
14 Molniya Missile Boats
-----------------------------
Red Navy Frigates
38 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
17 Krival Class Frigate
---------------------------
Red Navy Coastal Mine Hunter
19 Sveriv Class Mine Hunters
10 Kemiv Class Mine Hunters
-------------------------------
Red Airforce Carrier Aircraft Fighter-Bombers
300 Su-33
----------------------
Fighter Aircraft:
100 MiG-29ks
-----------------------------
Red Navy Troop Landing Craft:
1,000 Pomornik Class Amphibious Landing Craft
1,000 Ivan Rogov Landing Craft
----------------------------------
Red Airforce Rotary Aircraft:
1,100 Mi-28 HAVOCS
1.500 MI-24 HIND D/E
1,000 MI-8T Transport Copters
-----------------------------
Red Airforce Transport Aircraft:
500 AN-124 CONDOR(ANTONOV)
300 AN-72 Coaler
------------------------------
Red Airforce Fighter Planes:
1,500 Su-27 Flankers
1,500 MiG-29 Fulcrums
-----------------------
Red Army Fighter Bombers:
1,500 Su-37 Super Flankers
1,500 Su-30MKK
-----------------
Red Airforce Bombers:
900 Tu-160 BLACKJACK Long-Range Bombers
200 Tu-22M Bears Bombers
-----------------
Tanker Aircraft:
400 I1-78 Midas
------------------------
Nuclear/Theater Missles:
500 RT-21Ms
-----------------------
Nuclear ICBMS:
150 SS-25 Scapels
150 Topol-M SS-27s
-----------------------
Nuclear Bombs:
13,000 10 Megaton Bombs
-----------------------
Surface to Air Missles:
600 Triumf S-400

Not invite only, ViZion, mainly because you keep calling more allies. I think you already have over 10, and I am not completely sure they are all different players...

soooooooooooooo

I'm back finally i miss anything important?

ooc: not really...

http://www.jupiter.walagata.com/view.php?file=Malatose.GIF

Map of my nation.

http://www.jupiter.walagata.com/view.php?file=Malatose.GIF

Map of my nation.

ooc doesnt work

I assure you, I at least am different person that the rest of these nations. Malatose, for example is a member of the ASDU, which has a mutual defense pact with one of Vizion's alliances.

Hattia would support Vizion in a conflict. Sadly we have no forces to spare until the insurrection from the old government is crushed.

im back anything interestin happen

Not invite only, ViZion, mainly because you keep calling more allies. I think you already have over 10, and I am not completely sure they are all different players...
lol, the funny thing is I've only called about 2 of my allies... the others have come on their own free will, or my other allies have contacted them... lol, as I've said and others have said, I've got a lot of backing.

Not invite only, ViZion, mainly because you keep calling more allies. I think you already have over 10, and I am not completely sure they are all different players...
lol, the funny thing is I've only called about 2 of my allies... the others have come on their own free will, or my other allies have contacted them... lol, as I've said and others have said, I've got a lot of backing.

OOC: its true its true

If this war is over the substance known as AciGoo, we will defend Vizon. Otherwise, we are staying out.

OOC: But for the fact that you declared war on me, I beleive it is only fair if you keep your allies to a minimum.

OOC: But for the fact that you declared war on me, I beleive it is only fair if you keep your allies to a minimum. Once a war is started on the acusations of genocide (which is what we've accused you of) it's hard to do that... lol

Aye, but I can do it.

ooc-
i might join Attican's side just to even out odds. (i'm only allied with ViZion through Acigoo threat anyways) Soooo there might be a sudden change mwhaahaha..

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124303

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124303 Ok ill just watch and if anyone needs help i'll be on my couch with popcorn watching.

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124303 Ok ill just watch and if anyone needs help i'll be on my couch with popcorn watching.
lol, if I was you, I'd prob be doin the same thing

OOC:

I don't particularly want involved but we have invested a lot over the years in Attica's next door neighbour (FPC) so i wouldn't be suprised if our SDI net hasn't been configured to provide the region with soem cover.

ie Crookfur really hates it when people start lobbing nukes around

BTW is FPC still about?

IC: Crookfur deplores the agression displayed towards the Attican Empire as they struggle with the wounds of thier past.

The Crookfur government would liek to infrom the attican high command that our ports are open to you (if for some reason you decide to venture into the mid atlantic) and if the worst comes to the worst your people will have a safe refuge with us.

OOC: I would get involved but i have a major other RP comming up, i'm sure my forces could do both but i doubt i could, but if the conflict should cross into FPC's borders then my hand would sort of be forced as would a couple of others'.