NationStates Jolt Archive


Panama, and the Canal Zone.

Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:22
Council of Clan forces have surrounded the Panama canal and the coastline (12nm off of the coast of course). If there are no conflicting claims to this area, Panama and the canal zone will be incorporated into the CoC. A Division of CoC marines and several Battalions of CB's and Army Engineers await on aircraft and ships to claim and improve this region.
Central Facehuggeria
15-02-2004, 18:22
Will the canal remain open to foreign shipping?
Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:23
yes, of course, though warships have to give advance notice before passing through the canal.
Independent Hitmen
15-02-2004, 18:25
yes, of course, though warships have to give advance notice before passing through the canal.

We are currently moving a fleet of 2 Carrier Battle Groups to the South West Coast of South America. They should be passing through the Panama Canal in 3 days. (I am located to the West of South Africa and these ships were in my Med fleet).
New Empire
15-02-2004, 18:26
The UCSNE objects to foreign occupation of Panama. Humanitarian aid is fine, but the Panamanians have only recently regained control of their canal.

*Secret RP*
UCSNE Naval Forces, including one SCBG, are now diverting from Pacifica Red excersises to the East Pacific.
Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:29
ok, this has to do with Chellis's thread

If panama is occupied and there are contesting claims, i'll hold off. Otherwise i'll take it.


I plan on widening the canal as well, to accept ships up to 180 feet in beam.
New Empire
15-02-2004, 18:32
The UCSNE will not accept this imperialism, we have seen it's effect on our nation in it's history. We demand Panama be allowed to retain it's soverignty that it fought for violently against the Spanish, and peacefully for the canal.
Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:36
The UCSNE will not accept this imperialism, we have seen it's effect on our nation in it's history. We demand Panama be allowed to retain it's soverignty that it fought for violently against the Spanish, and peacefully for the canal.



actually they fought violently against the Colombians not the spanish.


But like i said, if there are any preexisting claims, as in A NATION ROLEPLAYING AS PANAMA, then i back off.
New Empire
15-02-2004, 18:40
OOC-Whoops. Was thinking of the Spanish American war. I'm not going to back off, because my Government is heavily sea reliant, and doesn't want a takeover of Panama, giving a power control over one of our major Petrol exportation routes.
Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:46
OOC-Whoops. Was thinking of the Spanish American war. I'm not going to back off, because my Government is heavily sea reliant, and doesn't want a takeover of Panama, giving a power control over one of our major Petrol exportation routes.


The Greater Federation is willing to share this waterway with New Empire, in joint administration, splitting of profits, and joint defense.


OOC: I want Panama for the same reasons, a friend of mine will be starting a region in the south pacific, and I'll be granted territory there Since my nation controls the St. Lawerence River, Part of the Welland Canal Parts of the Bahamas etc. I have a large communications lane to keep open. Wanna work something out?
New Empire
15-02-2004, 18:50
The UCSNE is willing to work out this deal as long as Panama (Not necessarily the canal) is given some sort of autonomy.
OOC-Ah. I see. Anyway, being the capitalist I am, I'm up for joint operations.
Of the council of clan
15-02-2004, 18:54
CoC is willing to Give Panama Autonomy in controlling their own internal matters unless those affairs directly threaten the canal. If such actions come to be then CoC and New Empire will have the right to intervene to protect mutual interests. Panama cannot not make treaties with foreign powers without consulting Either CoC, New Empire or Both.


OOC: This good?
New Empire
15-02-2004, 18:59
This is agreeable, but the Panamanian Govt. should be able to have treaties as long as they do not involve
-Use of the Canal
-Military Bases
-Military Action
-Military Equipment or Weapons
Which limits them to things such as trade of local products and such.
The UCSNE will contact several Private corporations to help enhance the Panama Canal so that it will be able to accomodate more and larger ships, and, if necessary, provide security. The UCSNE is also willing to participate in relief/humanitarian operations.
The Evil Overlord
15-02-2004, 21:37
His Omniferocity's government has no interest in Panama save as a passage for trade goods. Accordingly, the Dominion will not oppose this move provided freedom of the seas is not infringed upon and the passage of free trade is not restricted.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs
New Empire
16-02-2004, 00:39
So far, it appears CoC is only interested in restricting military use of the canal. Should this policy come to a change, we will make an announcement.
Of the council of clan
16-02-2004, 17:46
This is agreeable, but the Panamanian Govt. should be able to have treaties as long as they do not involve
-Use of the Canal
-Military Bases
-Military Action
-Military Equipment or Weapons
Which limits them to things such as trade of local products and such.
The UCSNE will contact several Private corporations to help enhance the Panama Canal so that it will be able to accomodate more and larger ships, and, if necessary, provide security. The UCSNE is also willing to participate in relief/humanitarian operations.

CoC accepts this updated proposal. And only military shipping will be monitored not necessarily restricted. And Civilian shipping will continue as Status Quo.


OOC: Ready to move in forces?