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Task Force CF - 3 Model class Aircraft Carriers, 5 Rommel class Battleships, 2 Halder class Pocket Battleships, 15 Seydlitz class Cruisers, 15 Clauswitz class Frigates, 30 Manstein class Destroyers, and 30 U-boats.

Task Force CF, currently 700km from the Muktar coast, is speeding there at top speed, with submarines as a vanguard, and deep naval radar reconaissance. With the task force went three Infantry divisions and two Panzer divisions in order to make a short landing.

Exact reasoning was for the actions taken to help enemies of Credonia, thus being a potential threat to the IADF, something in which the Macabee Empire takes great importance in.

OOC: Read this for info on the system: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106455

IC:

As sattelite recon. picked out targets in the capital of Muktar the MAAM weapons system began to open up... 2 hours later 3,000 MAAM rained down from above to hit the nation of CF.

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OOC: Actually, you RPd that the trade was sent through trucks. You did not specify any changes in the trucks, meaning they were yours...please don't pull anything out of your ass and say you forgot to do so...

Consequently, the trade can be traced back to your nation quite easily, especially with 20th or 21st century sattelite reconaissance....

Deleted due to redundance

Macabee, those were my trucks, and I was delivering items to replenish the HLF's non-terrorist military forces. We intend to send humanitarian support to the HLF, which will no doubt be bombed by some nation accusing us of supporting a terrorist nation, even though the recent terrorist actions have been by GameFAQ with the support of the DTIS Phantoms, and only them.

OOC: Yea yea yea.. Muktar you're my new enemy lol .. but just RP a war..don't worry I'm not bent on conquest or total nuberwanking..just an RP.

The USIH asks that the Macbees fleet pauses whilst negotiations are undertaken that could remove Muktar from this war politically before further bloodshed is needed.

OOC: Also are we allied yet? if not wanna?

To: Independent Hitmen
From: Madrid, Macabea

Are fleets will pause 450km from the Muktar coast, that way be in range of their naval ships, in case they decide to take advante, but at the same time staying decisevely far away to not provoke an attack.

And yes an alliance does seem desirable at this moment.

OOC: The trucks were secret IC, the only way to trace them to me is that the mercenary drivers were told to give the Muktar salute upon delivery. And unless the drivers were caught before this post, the trucks cannot be traced, since the mercs signed a confidentiallity contract.

OOC: The trucks were secret IC, the only way to trace them to me is that the mercenary drivers were told to give the Muktar salute upon delivery. And unless the drivers were caught before this post, the trucks cannot be traced, since the mercs signed a confidentiallity contract.

OOC: Not really..and please respond to my MAAM attack...

Your trucks can easily be traced by sattelites, which would crealy be reconing the area, since HLF was a major terrorist network..and as a member of the IADF my sats would be scanning his land 24/7, thus easily seeing your trucks entering his borders.

Very well, an alliance will be formed. President Anderson will visit your nation some time after his official State Visit to Shixonia if this is acceptable.

We thank you for pausing your fleet whilst negotiations take place.

Incase the worst happens we have dispatched a WASP class assualt ship along with 2 Missile Cruisers and 3 Destroyers to aid your force.

OOC: Those were mercenary trucks. Not mine. Get your facts straight.
OOC2: MAAM?

OOC: Those were mercenary trucks. Not mine. Get your facts straight.
OOC2: MAAM?

OOC: No no get your fact straights.. (and check the second post).... the trucks clearly entered from your nation, meaning they had something to do with your armaments.. not only this, the armaments are clearly yours, so that means your nation is embroiled in this arms shipments.. if not this your government really needs to crack down on illegal arms trade, another reason for me to go and change things around in your nation.

'Changing things around' is what we are trying to do in the HLF with the food drops. Did you check to see if these trucks were just passing through? No. Did you check to see if weapons were the specific order? No. Have you been paying attention to the peace talks? No. Did you just take advantage of the situation to declare war on a smaller nation that was trying to protect another nation from genocide? Yes. Are you the immoral ones instead of us? Give us a reason not to say yes.

OOC: Well the point that Im not looking to annex you..or even totally destroy your armed forces, points to the fact that I have pretty good intentions...

IC:

In direct violation of the peace talks the task force advanced within 400 kilometers of the Muktar coast, proding the Muktar government to cease all, ALL, relations with the nation of HLF.

To: Muktar
From: The Macabee Empire

If your intentions are to help the HLF in the savious of its nation then there would be no need to hire mercenaries, as you have spoken out in the peace talks. Your clandestine moves are easily suspicious. If you wish not to be attacked then allow Macabee choppers to use Muktar bases to strike at mercenary rebels, who are obviously trading weaponry with the HLF government.

Do no attempt to masquerade anymore, or you shall find yourself in a very hot cauldron.

[signed] Finegold IV

EDIT: irrevelant

IC: Muktar has no navy. We rely on our airforce. Furthermore, the city is landlocked.

OOC: Sorry for not mentioning landlock soon

IC2: The Victoria Aerial Fleet launches in full force to meet the threat of the Macabean Navy. The Muktari force consists of 20 squadrons of 7 gun fighters, 10 squads of 7 missile fighters, and the Victoria, a Warender Class Airship.

At about 550km from the Macabean Navy the HES Barcelona, one of the larger battleships, picked up a large air formation heading towards the fleet. The battleship radio began to warn the rest of the fleet, and all men went to battle stations. About 30 minutes later the air wave was some 230km from the Macabee fleet....

[back at Madrid..]

Emperor: I guess this means war...

[back to the naval attack....]

The five battleships opened fire at the air waves when they arrived at the 50km mark. Fifty Surface to Air Variation CII missiles were fired against the incoming air waves, while the rest of the task force began to ready to fire the regular SAM batteries at the incoming air force.

As the Muktar assault continued to get closer the entire task force's SAM batteries flared up on the assault, ready to shoot down any forces close by.

The Victoria's Anti-Missile batteries destroy most of the AAMs, but one of the gun fighter squadrons is destroyed. The Aerial Fleet is now in range, and 70 missiles, along with gunfire from 133 fighters and artillary-strength shells from the Victoria's frontal turrets fire across the naval force gathered below.

A-1s are hurled into the air to block the incoming missiles but several missiles rock into three seperate destroyers, sending one to the bottom of the ocean, and seriously ripping up the other two. One of the battleship's quadruple 18" turrets was also knocked off.

However, the SAM continued to put up resistance and more SAM Variation CIIs were fired also. The two Model class carriers, some 34km off poured in their full complement of 200 MMA-A1 Air Superiority Kondors, much more agile that most of the aircraft out there, and better crewed, faster and with a lot more training. The fighters soon made it into the melee shooting down those which could harm the fighters as first priority.

Down below the 40 u-boat emmerged from the water and began to fire with their 4 patriot missiles, intended to bombard the actual nation, but instead now used to stop the air attack. All 160 missiles were fired, about 10 alone at the missile airship (from behind).

As the Macabean fighters launch, the Muktari missile fighter begin launching missile at them before they can assemble (140 missiles are launched). The gun fighters focus their fire on the u-boats and their missiles, losing nineteen more to the assault. Although AM batteries remain a factor, the Victoria sustains minor damage and responds with a full turret salvo on the nearest aircraft carrier. NOTE: Each turret has dual artillary cannons.

The aircraft carrier HES Principe Azul gets mauled and is forces to limp back to a safe zone with 63 of the 100 aircraft destroyed..however 137 aircraft do get into the air.

However, with the missile launchers turned towards the aircraft carriers ten destroyers and four frigates begin to chuck SAM missiles at the aircraft from behind.

OOC: For the following if you want info check here... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106455

IC:

Space Missile Command was finally given the order and 1,000 MAAM missiles began to rain down from space unto Muktar airfields, hitting especially fighter and bomber hangars.

Muktari fightercraft take some of the missiles to defend the Victoria from those missiles that the AM batteries miss. Seven missiles fighters and six gun fighters are lost. The missile fighters and the rear turrets of the Victoria bombard the Macabean ships coming in from the rear while the other turrets and gun fighters take the Macabean fighters.

AM batteries at the airfields take out most of the missiles, but five airfields are heavily damaged.

OOC: GTG, dinnertime. BB in an hour.

OOC: Alright..I want to commend you on your RPing skills too... you're good... (not sarcasm btw).

IC:

Although 12 Kondors were blown out of the air as soon as they got up the rest began to fire their 4 sidewinders at locked Muktar fighters. Firing one sidewinder at each aircraft locked on.

One destroyer had its tower clearly swiped off and another one had the right side of the hull blasted on, and began to take on water. However the ships continued to fire their SAMs, and with the missile ship so close even began attempting to shoot down the aircraft with their 8" to 18" naval guns, making precision firing... although most of the shells completely missed. This last stupid act was ended completely when the admiral noticed the idiocy of such an attempt..although maybe some enemy aircraft were downed.

Most of the missile fighters were able to take out the sidewinders coming toward them with their own missiles and a counterattack with another missiles, but the gun fighters had more difficulty. Nine missile fighters and thirty one gun fighters were shot down. The remaining fighters continued to fight using either missiles or autocannons, and the Victoria was forced to focus its turrets on aiding the AM batteries to prevent further damage. An airborn object about the size of the Victoria appears on Macabean radars, along with four fighter wings of seven. The Kodiak cometh. One of the 'stupid barrage's' shots managed to clip one of the fighters, which knocked it into position for the intended sidewinder to destroy it (included in above casualties).

OOC: Thanks for the complement. You're doing good too.

[600 km east]

Task Force HLF arrives - 10 Battleships strong, 5 Pocket Battleships, 6 Carriers, 30 Destroyers - It will make the position in 6 hours at top speed.

[The battle...]

One destroyer was knocked out and it began to sink immediately. Massive naval losses ensued, with one destroyer loosing 87 of its crew. However, the task force, all ships included, began to pour a massive barrage into the attacking forces.

OOC: However your first air attack should be out of missiles and out of fuel for the fighting they've done. But my ships are close to running out of armaments also...that's why I plan to use the lull between the time your first air fleet flies back to base and your second comes, to take my fleet 300km east and resupply it... and then take my second fleet in.[/i]

The Victoria Aerial Fleet begins to make a fighting retreat, hoping they will draw some of the Macabean fighters into the path of the SAMs, which are shot down for the most part. Ten of each fighter type are lost, and the Victoria losses one of its turrets in addition to more minor hull damage. The Kodiak, in addition to its four squadron escort of assault fighters (two missiles and a heavy autocannon) come in to hit the enemy ships from behind to cut off their escape, forcing them to either fight or pursue. Landbound artillary is curently being assembled to discourage pursuit, hopefully trapping the attacking fleet.

OOC: If anyone wants to get involved, please make who's side you are on apparent at the beginning.

OOC: Yes, more people would be awsome.

IC:

A second air attack was noted 500km off the fleets circumfrence on the radar. Task Force HLF was radioed at increasingly desperate speeds. But Admiral Kipler decided that staying in the same spot until the second task force arrived would be the best option..even if the armaments were getting ever smaller.

Task Force HLF was a mere 230km away..only about two more hours and the fleet would be there to reinforce Task Force Muktar.

However, all the attention was on the battle. As the first attack fleet began to make a fighting retreat the ships began to hit the large missile ship in the rear and the smaller aircraft with much smaller, yet faster, and more agile, missiles, which were in large supply.

Then admiral Kipling came up with an idea... seeing the second attack airfleet attempting to circumnavigate the fleet and maybe attack the task force in the rear Kipling decided to move towards Task Force HLF and draw the enemy air fleet towards the second task force, thereby effectively destroying one the enemies air fleets, or at least shaking it off, thereby allowing both of the task forces to combine and effectively fight on their enemies together.

The commander of the Kodiak was a warrior poet, as those who saw him fight would say. Those who fought would call him an unorthodox sociopath, but this was beside the point. What mattered was that instead of barricading against the Macabean retreat, he ordered his escort to join him as he flew right through them, raining death from above. The fightercraft launched their missiles conservatively as the went, while the Kodiak launched artillary shells, supplemented by, rather suprisingly to the Macabean crew and officers, broken tools and scrap metal by otherwise unoccupied crewmen. AM crews were on standby just in case the first wave of attackers had anything left.

The second wave of enemy aircraft finally hit, hitting two battleships with a large amount of missiles, causing them to sink in about two minutes, taking the entire crews with them. However the second task force was only 158km away now and the six aircraft carriers with them launched their 600 MMA-A1 Kondor Air Superiority Fighters at that range, ready to hit the second air wave cold in the rear, while it was still fighting Admiral Kiplin's Task Force Muktar.

All the while Task Force Muktar began to fire its smaller (yet faster) SAM missiles and the conventional SAM missiles, while even depleting its patriot B missile supply against the larger missile ships.

The entire 160th SOAR are heading towards muktar we are under peacekeeping orders macabees we are not attacking just making sure of the current situation.Hundreds of helicopters fill the skys the troops on board wait until they touch land."Victor 5 to muktari air control" "come in over" "we are going to land now please respond".

The Kodiak's AM batteries manage to shoot down all accurate fire coming at it, and all but three of the assault fighters weave through the barrage. The Kodiak and its escort fly over the last ships in Task Force Muktar, trapping TFM's fightercraft between it and the Victoria Aerial Fleet. To deter pursuit, the landbound artillary begins to bombard the naval vessels incoming. Seventeen fighter wings of mixed fightercraft are scrambled to cover the Victoria Aerial Fleet as it slowly lands and to engage the 125 fighters which already used up all their missiles earlier.

En route to the trapped fightercraft, the Kodiak's escort fighters all perform a barrel roll. On several Macabean radio frequencies, the Muktar National Anthem is heard playing.

The eriopian helicopters fire at the macabee's ships the missles and MG fire towards the ships.Then over 80 F-22s fly toward the macabee planes they engage the war was on.

The Kodiak's AM batteries manage to shoot down all accurate fire coming at it, and all but three of the assault fighters weave through the barrage. The Kodiak and its escort fly over the last ships in Task Force Muktar, trapping TFM's fightercraft between it and the Victoria Aerial Fleet. To deter pursuit, the landbound artillary begins to bombard the naval vessels incoming. Seventeen fighter wings of mixed fightercraft are scrambled to cover the Victoria Aerial Fleet as it slowly lands and to engage the 125 fighters which already used up all their missiles earlier.

With both task forces now together they begin to concentrate murdering fire on the Kodiak Aerial Fleet, hoping to finally destroy it under a murderous concetration of fire...

125km off the border of Muktar four class CIII nuclear type u-boats immerge and fire four conventional ICBMs (I don't use nukes) at major Mukrat cities.

To both sides:
Is there any way during the lull in the fighting that you guys could stop fighting and try to talk it out or... will the fighting continue?

OOC:I know i look like a young nation but i am not. I was deleted in late august/ early september and i was revived not to long ago.

back to normal: The second naval command will move out to observe the conflict if polotics don't work.

Second Naval command fleet:
5 modified Nimitz class carriers (per ship)
100 F-35 VTOL
10 IA-1s
30 black hawks
10 AH-1
7 Wasp carriers
50 Black hawks
100 Kl-55s
10 Oliver perry Frigates
12 XNV-NSAS stealth subs
7 sea wolf subs

another division will be launched. The call signs are being transferred to both sides now.

Thank you for your time,

Alan F. catraw

Muktari Artillary shoot down three of the ICBMs, while the forth is shot apart by the Victoria as it prepares to land. The Kodiak shoots down whatever oncoming fire the ships send that are within range, which is very little. The mixed squadrons and the Kodiak's escort all fire upon the missileless fighters from opposite directions as the artillary continues its bombardment.

On the radio frequencies that were playing the Muktar national anthem, a robotic voice repeats over and over in a questioning tone:
"Truce?"

OOC: Consider what will happen to the fightercraft, who's survival of ejecting will depend on your decision.

Illior: We are willing to accept your aid should the Macabees refuse a truce. So you know why this war started, Macabees became suspicious of us when we airdropped food into a terrorist nation that was recently conquered for the second time in one week.

if you guys want to meet in a neutral country, you both and any other countries, may, if you wish, meet on the carrier INS Pride of ILLIOR please respond if you wish to meet on the carrier for diplomatic talks.

Muktari Artillary shoot down three of the ICBMs, while the forth is shot apart by the Victoria as it prepares to land. The Kodiak shoots down whatever oncoming fire the ships send that are within range, which is very little. The mixed squadrons and the Kodiak's escort all fire upon the missileless fighters from opposite directions as the artillary continues its bombardment.

On the radio frequencies that were playing the Muktar national anthem, a robotic voice repeats over and over in a questioning tone:
"Truce?"

OOC: Consider what will happen to the fightercraft, who's survival of ejecting will depend on your decision.

OOC: Well your aircraft seem invincible and this missile carrier seems like it has unlimited missiles..which on an aircraft..which you hope can fly..is impossible... your missile carrier should have no more missiles... and your facing the combined SAMs of over 70 ships... this is on the border of god moding

IC:

[i]The Macabee Kondors barrel roll, although 17 are hit and fly out of control into the sea. However the fighters quickly recover and fire their full complements of 4 sidewinders each, meaning 2,400 sidewinders. The 70 ships continue to pour a barrage of SAMs on the air fleet RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM...

(firing those down is near impossible and they're realistically too fast for your fighters to counter fire with their own missiles...or counter and still be able to fire at my own aircraft..realistically with the number superiority I have in both ships and aircraft 3/4 of your air fleet should be destroyed..including your missile carrier..but w/e..i've just been putting up because I thought the incredible number superiority would make a difference..guess not).

Muktar sends a representative to the Illiorian vessel to negociate.

muktar: noticed that already. i'm not taking sides unless a party attacks a craft of mine, if that happenes well, lets just say the WHOLE APTO will get involved.

and you Macabee? will you attend the peace talks

OOC: Well I guess ill get in here, since Muktar seems not to go back to my thread because he thinks im using future tech when IM using modern. You still have to post your damages from my missal attack Muktar.

IC:
Aboard the NSC Helforx(Aircraft carrier):
Officer: "Sir The Macabees is attacking Muktar and there taking heavy damage sir about two ships already sunk and a battle ship turret feel off"
Admiral: "Get 40 S-39s in the air and help those The Macabees fighters! Also send over two Destroyers to aid The Macabees ships in repairs or whatever they need help with."
Officer: "Yes sir!"
Special Ranger: "Sir the team is ready to move into Maktar on your command"
Admiral: "Good, Move in boys, Hit them Hard and fast and they wont see what the hell hit them"
Special Ranger: "Yes sir!"
The special ranger walks on our of them room down the hall and then town the stairs. Pilots rush out to there aircraft and claim up the ladder, they hop in and flick the switch to close the cock pit. One moves onto the run way then slowly increases its thrust and takes off, then the others go on one by one.
Helfor Squad Leader: "This is Hel one, are all air craft in the air command?"
Command: "Hel one all birds are in the air you are clear to go!"
Helfor Squad Leader: "Yaho lets go boys!"
The jets to speeding off towards where The Macabees and Maktar aircraft and raging battles together. They come with in 130 miles of coastal SAMs, they lock on and 10 long range missals and move up to altitude 12,300 feet.

UN Delegate of Corporate Islands
~Nano Soft Corp.

Macabee Vice-Admiral Preador begins to sail out on a motor boat from the destroyer HES Catalan towards the neutral carrier, to meet for peace settlements.

OOC: What missile carrier? Might I also point out that the only fighter currently fighting that have seen combat also have a heavy autocannon. Furthermore, what part of 'fly straight through' didn't you understand? Between vertical distance and lateral distance, the Kodiak and its buddies are out of range of most of the attacks.

IC: The Muktar rep awaits the Macabean response to Illior's suggestion of a truce.

The mixed squadrons continue to assault the fightercraft WHO ALREADY USED UP THEIR MISSILES ON A PREVIOUS POST, while the Kodiak and it's escort switch to defensive fire as what Macabean attacks that are in range are shot down. The Kodiak and the twenty five left in the escort take sixteen percent damage or casualties, respectively. They move toward the Muktari coast to land, and the artillary continue to bombard the naval vessels which, unlike the naval vessels to the Kodiak, are within range.

Nanosoft: you too are welcome at the peace talks so post if you would like to join.

On board the INS PRIDE OF ILLIOR:
" Good evening Gentelmen, if you would follow me this way please," a naval officer says, another officer joins him

" welcome on board the INS POI (initials) i would like to remind you that you are here for peace talks and not fighting. if any delagates fight they will be trated just like any other crewman in the nation of illior. You would rather not have me mention what we do. the delagates from Muktar please follow me and the Reps from the maceabees follow Cptn alex please to your quarters."

AND PLEASE STOP FIGHTING DURING THE PEACE TALKS! sorry i yelled

OOC: Wait the Kodiak is a ship? I thought you had no coast!?!?! I need to clarify this...

IC:

Vice-admiral Praedor awaits radio to give him a go on diplomatic efforts... on the HES Targonna, an aircraft carrier, talks with Nano Soft are underway...

Transmission to Nano Soft:

What are your ultimate aims here? And you think the massive casualties are worth it?

IC: The four Muktari delegates enter their quarters aboard the POI and await the beginning of the diplomatic meetings.

OOC: The Kodiak is the same thing as the Victoria. And Muktari does have a coast, it just doesn't have the capitol city on it, which you tried to attack when I pointed this out.

IC2: The Muktari forces pull off from attacking the Macabeans until the piece talks are over to defend against the Nanosoft attackers, who have yet to state their reason to attack.

OOC: Sorry about any confusion about my nation's geography, Macabee.

Transmission to The Macabees:
Well it depends, the enemy or us? We are here to aid you in the same reason that you are here.

Transmission to Illior:
We will send one Rep to the peace talks and our ships and fighters will stand down for now.

All fighters have pulled back to fly around the carriers.

Muktar I already stated my reasons on my thread, im not going to repeat them. I am fighting you the same reasons as The Macabees.

Macabee we are waiting for you to start the peace talks

Macabee we are waiting for you to start the peace talks

Macabee we are waiting for you to start the peace talks

Transmission to The Macabees:
Well it depends, the enemy or us? We are here to aid you in the same reason that you are here.

Transmission to Illior:
We will send one Rep to the peace talks and our ships and fighters will stand down for now.

All fighters have pulled back to fly around the carriers.

Muktar I already stated my reasons on my thread, im not going to repeat them. I am fighting you the same reasons as The Macabees.

The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the 7th and 8th Fleets to Muktar.

Let them begin.

The vice-admiral begins to phrase his government's goals..

Number 1: Macabee inspectors, some 300 in number, must be allowed in your borders to inspect outgoing trucks towards HLF ONLY. Their armament will be just a pistol and papers.

Number 2: All food aid is to go by air, and paradrops. No aircraft are to land in HLF territory, or the military expedition will begin anew.


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Two wolf packs, 20 in number, immerge after the enemy aircraft return home. They situate themselves 300km from the enemy home port and ready a total of 400 TASM anti-ship missiles (each carries 20), just in case the peace talks break down.

The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the 7th and 8th Fleets to Muktar.

For the piece talks that Macabee, Nanosoft, and our government are attending, hopefully. We seriously hope you are not coming to attack as peace is being negociated.

bump

Uh muktar can I be involved in this conflict because it seems as if im being ignored.

The eriopian helicopters fire at the macabee's ships the missles and MG fire towards the ships.Then over 80 F-22s fly toward the macabee planes they engage the war was on.

OOC: Choppers do not have the range that my ships are from... I don't know where your nation is...

IC:

The F-22s were easily shot down my a barrage of SAM missiles.

Streaking in from the sea came the 12 B-6 bombers that launched earlier from Neito Air Force Base (other thread soz bout that). The bombers were flying at Mach 3.1, and once within 1000miles of their target, the Victoria Airship they released their cruise missiles (4 from each plane). As soon as the missiles were released they powered back towards the USIH at full speed, meeting up with their tankers 2 hours later.

OOC: They are stealthed as well so i rekon that detection would be pretty hard which is why i rp'd the entire attack in one post. MACH 3 would outrun just about any A-A missile that could be launched and they launched too far out to be hit by SAM's i think. Any argumenets plz say.

Uh muktar can I be involved in this conflict because it seems as if im being ignored.

Didn't i tell you not to be involved with anything to do with the HLF thing and you will be off the hook?

I guess not them, The Dr_Twist Government has ordered the 6th and 8th Fleet to Eriopia.

We would like to send a representative to these talks if we can. Since we have actually pledged support against Muktar, we would like to try and settle this peacefully. Envoy Lee will be dispatced.

Governor Jackson

Ok, now we have macabees objectives. I think they are fair, MUktar what do you say to those terms?

Envoy Lee's vessels enters atmosphere and procedes towards the Neutral Carrier.

"To Illior Carrier, we are landing close to you! We request that a ship be dispatched to escort our envoy to your ship for talks."

This is a bump

ATTENTION: Gotta hold these talks soon. lol

This is a bump

ATTENTION: Gotta hold these talks soon. lol

OOC: Yea, I'm waiting..most likely however I'll respond tomorrow.

Hey Im muktars ally he asked to help him but now this has happend all forces have been recalled back to base.

Well this is intresting, it seems that Muktar is trying to ignore the situation.

***DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE***

FROM: Grand Dictator Aeon the 221st
TO: Pride of Illior
CC: All Nations Currently Involved In Peace Talks

I request permission to send a delegate to these talks. My nation has been active in attempting to resolve the conflict as well (OOC/ check related threads /OOC) and has a stake in it as a declared ally of Muktar and the CIS. We also consider the USIH to be esteemed friends of Itakeitall, and would like to do our part to stop bloodshed between them. Itakeitall also greatly respects the nations of Macabees and Nano Soft, and would like to help them and Muktar to resolve their differences without further loss of life. (To any nation we have missed, please realize that even a Grand Dictator is not infallible.)

Envoy Helik Tawktuyu will be dispatched to represent Itakeitall in these talks if our request is accepted.
Thank you for your time.

***END COMMUNIQUE***

all envoys are welcome. all peaca talks can go without me.

Number 1: Macabee inspectors, some 300 in number, must be allowed in your borders to inspect outgoing trucks towards HLF ONLY. Their armament will be just a pistol and papers.

Number 2: All food aid is to go by air, and paradrops. No aircraft are to land in HLF territory, or the military expedition will begin anew.

These terms are altogether too harsh for any undefeated nation. Inspectors in a soverign country? With a mandate to inspect transportation of weapons? Perhaps you would also like a detailed map of his country, indicating all military bases and exact data on his deployments and the locations of all his defenses? On a silver platter.

That term is simple unacceptable. You may as well demand that he castrate his nation miltiarily. Your inspectors would be able to inspect just about anything that they felt like with such a mandate, and this is wrong.

I propose a severely restricted mandate. Your inspectors will be inside the HLF, already a blockaded nation, and they will inspect shipments from ALL nations entering the region. They will NOT have access to Muktar, or any other nation, and cannot inspect any vehicles who refuse them permission to search, UNLESS the government which owns them gives a warrant to these inspectors. If a vehicle refuses search, you may register a complaint with the controlling nation and may commence the search if they choose to grant you permission.

Requiring all aid to be paradropped severely and unnecessarily restricts the aid that can be provided. Normal customs searches of individuals entering the region through the airports, harbors, and highways should be more than sufficient if you add the extra inspectors. Your proposal would hinder the construction of homes, schools, hospitals, as well as the supplying of humanitarian aid just so that you can stop a few random shipments of military equipment. If anything, this act could be considered terrorism, as you are threatening hostile acts to prevent civilians from living their daily lives.

If you intend to prevent terrorism, you should be supporting the Muktari efforts to feed and shelter the citizens of the HLF. Invading Muktar will simply cause more terror and violence.

Number 1: Macabee inspectors, some 300 in number, must be allowed in your borders to inspect outgoing trucks towards HLF ONLY. Their armament will be just a pistol and papers.

Number 2: All food aid is to go by air, and paradrops. No aircraft are to land in HLF territory, or the military expedition will begin anew.

These terms are altogether too harsh for any undefeated nation. Inspectors in a soverign country? With a mandate to inspect transportation of weapons? Perhaps you would also like a detailed map of his country, indicating all military bases and exact data on his deployments and the locations of all his defenses? On a silver platter.

That term is simple unacceptable. You may as well demand that he castrate his nation miltiarily. Your inspectors would be able to inspect just about anything that they felt like with such a mandate, and this is wrong.

I propose a severely restricted mandate. Your inspectors will be inside the HLF, already a blockaded nation, and they will inspect shipments from ALL nations entering the region. They will NOT have access to Muktar, or any other nation, and cannot inspect any vehicles who refuse them permission to search, UNLESS the government which owns them gives a warrant to these inspectors. If a vehicle refuses search, you may register a complaint with the controlling nation and may commence the search if they choose to grant you permission.

Requiring all aid to be paradropped severely and unnecessarily restricts the aid that can be provided. Normal customs searches of individuals entering the region through the airports, harbors, and highways should be more than sufficient if you add the extra inspectors. Your proposal would hinder the construction of homes, schools, hospitals, as well as the supplying of humanitarian aid just so that you can stop a few random shipments of military equipment. If anything, this act could be considered terrorism, as you are threatening hostile acts to prevent civilians from living their daily lives.

If you intend to prevent terrorism, you should be supporting the Muktari efforts to feed and shelter the citizens of the HLF. Invading Muktar will simply cause more terror and violence.
This terms are no wear near harsh. This country has supported HLF with weapons not food and to stop that you must inspect each vehicle that from Muktar. But the paradroping aid s just useless because they could send weapons along mixed in with the food so it a useless rule, and inspectin the aircraft cargo is also useless because they could put the weapons in while in the air.