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Comrades! The capitalists have ruled the earth for too long! We need to overthrow this ineffective, ridiculous excuse for a regime. Socio-economic egalitarianism is the only effective form of government! :twisted:

Hmmmm..........socio-economic egalitarianism. Seems like such a big phrase to describe terrorism.

You are obviously an ignorant american. Socio-economic egalitarianism, as my comrade describes it, is simply a guide line to socialism. In other words (excluding certain graduated taxes) every citizen is fiscally, and hierarchally equivelent.

Oh, excuse me.

State-sponsored terrorism.

Oh, excuse me.

State-sponsored terrorism.
I'm 100% against terrorism... but, no, it's not terrorism..

Any government that seeks to impose it's will upon any peoples or nation via economic, political, or military means is a terrorist. Terrorism feeds on fear and repression. If socialism/communism is anything, it is the epitome of personal terrorism.

Any government that seeks to impose it's will upon any peoples or nation via economic, political, or military means is a terrorist. Terrorism feeds on fear and repression. If socialism/communism is anything, it is the epitome of personal terrorism. Boy, that is realllllly stretchin it...

Hey, I call 'em as I see 'em. If more countries would cease tip-toing around these two-bit dictatorships, then there wouldn't be as much misery caused by terrorists, whether they be militaristic or economic terrorists.

So you are American! Well, I'll supply a more apt analogy. By your standards, because you have to say the pledge of allegiance in public schools, the US government is supporting terrorism? Or because they are influencing your views by discouraging the execution of felonies? etc... You really should think before you shoot your mouth off.

To: The United Socialist State of Maomarxland
From: Amber Weislack, Senior FSO, Foreign Ministry Bureau of Rogue Political Entities
Subject: Socio-economic egalitarianism is a means of societal organization, not a government type

And the Dominion of Juumanistra finds it quite ironic that an authoritarian police state is preaching about any type of egalitarianism. There's also the fact that democratic capitalism has been quite good to us and we are more than willing to challenge the claim that it is an "ineffective, ridiculous excuse" for government.

What are you, a twelve-year old? What the hell kind of infantile logic is that? No body is forced to say the pledge of allegiance. And I don't have a clue as to what you mean by "execution of felonies".

So you are American! Well, I'll supply a more apt analogy. By your standards, because you have to say the pledge of allegiance in public schools, the US government is supporting terrorism? Or because they are influencing your views by discouraging the execution of felonies? etc... You really should think before you shoot your mouth off.
btw, please note I am American, too. Not all American's have the same view... believe it or not, there are American's who (wow! suprise, suprise) know what they're talking about, and don't want Bush as president, etc...

Juumanistra,

Good answer. Nice to see somebody thinking instead of spouting political jargon.

Any government that seeks to impose it's will upon any peoples or nation via economic, political, or military means is a terrorist. Terrorism feeds on fear and repression. If socialism/communism is anything, it is the epitome of personal terrorism.

Of course your nation has laws. Odd that private enterprise may remain illegal without any means to inforce the ban, I mean, if political's out.

Not that I disagree with that policy, but your appraisal of just about everyone as a terrorist is a bit daft.

uh -some Drapoel chap since removed from the Central Directorature.

Xeraph,

by your definition of "terrorism" any and all forms of government are terrorist by nature.

Are you an anarchist?

If you are, then bravo, I salute you, as I have strong anarchist bents myself.

However, if you aren't, what the heck are you talking about?


Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Minister of the Internationale

It all boils down to the intent of a given law. If a law is enacted to free people up to pursue liberty, then its not terrorism. If its a law enacted to restrict a person's personal liberty, then its terrorism. Again, I define terror as a means to control people through personal restriction of action. Whether it be car-bombs or restrictive economic laws, governmental intrusion into the lives of its citizens is terrorism.

I must point out that united states of america does not have a "democratic capitalist" based infrastructure/state. First of all, contrary to popular belief, there has never been an example of a democracy. Second, capitalism is designed in such a way, that it appeals to humanity's sense of greed and unidimensionalism. Note the following points:

-Socialism supports a well-funded, well-maintained public school division.
-The United States rated 12th among industrialized nations (at 4th grade level) for math and science, due to a significant lack of funding. In other words, socialism beat capitalism in that aspect.

Next...

-Socialism takes a significant portion of taxes and dedicates it to the institution/maintenance of socialized health care, and housing for ALL citizens.
-The U.S. lets millions of under-privileged americans die of illness, and go homeless. Hmm, socialism wins again...

Next....

-In a socialist state private enterprise is prohibited. Individuals such as Kenneth Lay are not allowed to rook innocent workers out of their life savings, leaving them helpless. Corporations cannot ship jobs overseas, thus devastating the domestic economy either.
-The united states supports big business and the iniquity it represents. Corporations are then allowed to perform the afforementioned tasks on a large scale. Well, the winner in that scenario is quite self-evident.

I don't mean to steal Maomarxland's question, I could not let that kind of ignorance persist any longer. It would seem that Maomarxland has retired to his/her quarters for the evening, so when they will reply I'm sure it will be similar to what I have just said.

Anarchy is essentially freedom with out responsibility. So no, I'm not an anarchist.

Yes, I agree that ALL governments are restrictive to one extent or another, and therefore terroristic. As I said, intent is important.

Anarchy is essentially freedom with out responsibility. So no, I'm not an anarchist.

Yes, I agree that ALL governments are restrictive to one extent or another, and therefore terroristic. As I said, intent is important.

Look, the original post by Maomarxland was intended to drum up support for a war on non-socialist nations. The bottom line, as far as Xeraph/ ARM and it's allies are concerned, is that such a statement is terroristic in nature, and if ANY nation thinks it can impose it's will on any nation of ARM, it's welcome to try.

Alaric, King of Xeraph

Xeraph, Anarchy is actually the complete OPPOSITE of "freedom without responsibility"


Throughout this entire post you have shown yourself to be rather daft.

I am not saying your views are untenable, rather that you are completely assbackwards in how you express them.
And frankly, it is kind of annoying.

For what it is worth HOWEVER you define terrorism The United States has historically and is now the greatest enactor of "terror" the world has ever seen.
This is a fact.
Hell, I like the United States a lot. I think that what it can theoretically do is amazing, but my eyes are screwed shut.

uhh. dont you think you taking all of this a bit seriously? It is a computer GAME right? I like the idea of being able to stir up trouble in NS so I say Maomarxland more power to you! Have fun and play nice guys :roll:

terroristic is a great word.


i think i will begin using it all the time.

Any government that seeks to impose it's will upon any peoples or nation via economic, political, or military means is a terrorist. Terrorism feeds on fear and repression. If socialism/communism is anything, it is the epitome of personal terrorism.

Does this mean that the USA is a terrorist nation?

Messiah, your'e right.

All these people want to do is talk.

Anybody want to take on ARM, be my guest.

Government MUST control the population, or it will result in anarchy. If anarchy occurs, that means no laws exist, and therefor people will do as they please. People cannot work together under anarchy. Give people the right to do as they please and the world will surely end. There have always been some form of government, and there always will be. The human race cannot progress under anarchy.

Okay, hold on a second, terrorism is definetely not a form of government. All it means is scaring the shit out of people to accomplish your goals. A repressive government is a regime, or a dictatorship. Or, of course a state of uprising.

Comrades! The capitalists have ruled the earth for too long! We need to overthrow this ineffective, ridiculous excuse for a regime. Socio-economic egalitarianism is the only effective form of government! :twisted:

*chalks Moamarxland onto the "evil and must be smushed" list*

I'm with you, Midlonia. Send me a TG when your'e ready to annihilate these morons.

OOC:well right now i am busy with The HLF.. so as soon as i am done there i may get round to this idiot.... ahhh what the hell i got enough equipment.. and men and so on, why delay?

Comrades. The capitalists have obviously been manipulated by propagandistic garbage. A system that promotes greed, and suffering must be abolished. Down with capitalism!!!! To quote the communist manifesto:"Workers of all nations unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains, and a world to gain!"

I applaud you maomarxland. You have spoken for the common man. Capitalism is an unnecessary evil! Socialism is more enlightened, efficient, and humane!

I've just come back from a personal look at Xeraph's borders. There is some potential for terrorism on the borders of some of our newer member-states.

We will have to post-pone dealing with commies and pinkos.

To quote one of your commie idols: "All power comes out of the barrel of a gun."


Alaric, King of Xeraph