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Since the nation of RFF has refused to abolish there law banning Christianity they have forced the Imperial Empire of Belem to decare war in order to right this most heinous act.

As of now a state of war exists between the Holy Imperial Empire of Belem and the nation of RFF.

I will probably join in as a fellow Christian nation and ally of Belem.

So you're going to war because of a law that was passed in another nation???

Since the Romanian Armed Forces are preparing an attack on an undisclosed nation, we send Belem diplomatic approval but no forces will be alotted as of now.

The New Izumi Government will monitor the situation and will intervene if necessary.

Our Government Frowns upon crimes against humanity.

Due to a conflict that has started up at home, we can commit no ground troops. Though our naval forces will stay and defend RFF...

So you're going to war because of a law that was passed in another nation???

yes. Belem is a Catholic nation first off. and second RFF is persceuting christains.

Since the Romanian Armed Forces are preparing an attack on an undisclosed nation, we send Belem diplomatic approval but no forces will be alotted as of now.

we thank FR for there support.

Since the Romanian Armed Forces are preparing an attack on an undisclosed nation, we send Belem diplomatic approval but no forces will be alotted as of now.

we thank FR for there support.

Due to a conflict that has started up at home, we can commit no ground troops. Though our naval forces will stay and defend RFF...

Hattia it would be in your best interest to stand down as we are both IASPO nations.

Wait isnt that his right as a leader...i mean they elected him! If they had a problem with it they would revolt themselves...or if you think this myght hurt his nation by kicking out all christians...then harbour them help steal his devout christains away! His loss (if thats what you belive) personally I'm on the side of banning religion...but i cant see the need in fighting... And i wouldnt kill any of the fleeing religious groups fleeing...hell if they want to hold to their idle fantasies...i say let them!
DONT GO TO WAR OVER THIS!!

~Prongs~
(and no, i personally do not kill catholic cardinals)

*sigh* Pathological Exiles will stand by to defend RFF. As Stated before, while we support the right for citizens to practice whichever religion they choose, we do not support an invasion of soverignty over the issue of a law. The Christians in question were arrested for protesting (which RFF has outlawed). All other Christians are being allowed to leave the nation without interferance. However, if a course of aggression is pursued, then Pathological Exiles will react to protect the soverignty of RFF. Any vessel firing upon a PE or RFF vessel/unit/person will be considered hostile and destroyed. The United Forces of Fististan stand united behind me (check region boards if you want, I put in a request for troops and it was granted) in this endevor. May peace be reached before destruction is forced upon us.


OOC: WOuld this really be the third way Jesus advocates? I think not.

The Soviet Communist Republics of Malatose support RFF,however we havent decided to get involved with ground forces.

DGNT sends diplomatic praise and asks if its logistics network will be of any help.
Our armed forces are futuretech, but our supply planes, trucks and ships are mostly modern. Our trucks just come with standard seatwarmers.

I think war isn't the course of action. There are other ways for this to be settled by allowing Christianity and allowing the RFF leader to still have authority. ex. set aside one city where this law doesn't apply. Its a win-win in point of view.

DGNT sends diplomatic praise and asks if its logistics network will be of any help.
Our armed forces are futuretech, but our supply planes, trucks and ships are mostly modern. Our trucks just come with standard seatwarmers.

The seatwarming godmodder again... :wink:

I think war isn't the course of action. There are other ways for this to be settled by allowing Christianity and allowing the RFF leader to still have authority. ex. set aside one city where this law doesn't apply. Its a win-win in point of view.


it can only be all of the nation thats the only acceptable outcome.

What is the IASPO?

What is the IASPO?

its the organization California and Alaska started it was origginally called WASP.

What is the IASPO?

its the organization California and Alaska started it was origginally called WASP.

Hey, what do you know, I am a member also. I never saw him post the name change...

Hmm, this might cause problems.

DGNT sends diplomatic praise and asks if its logistics network will be of any help.
Our armed forces are futuretech, but our supply planes, trucks and ships are mostly modern. Our trucks just come with standard seatwarmers.

The seatwarming godmodder again... :wink:
What can I say? Wonders of the 9,000,000,000 to the 234,000 century, or something.

DGNT sends diplomatic praise and asks if its logistics network will be of any help.
Our armed forces are futuretech, but our supply planes, trucks and ships are mostly modern. Our trucks just come with standard seatwarmers.

The seatwarming godmodder again... :wink:
What can I say? Wonders of the 9,000,000,000 to the 234,000 century, or something.

seatwarmers are great u get into a cold car put on the seatwarmers and u feel great. u know they even have seat coolers now for summer

OOC: Getting our focus back on the war and off the seatwarmers...
IC: Although a large percentile of Muktar's population is christian, it feels obligated to become envolved in the defense of the RFF. The Victoria Aerial Fleet will be launching should any military action be taken.

Victoria Aerial Fleet Logistics:
10 Squadrons of 7 Missile Fighters, each armed with eight rockets and a light autocannon.
20 Squadrons of 7 Gunboat Fighters, each armed with twin heavy autocannons.
The Victoria:
Chassis Base: Aircraft Carrier
Propulsion System: Magnetic Gravitation System for lift, Nuclear Reactor engine.
Weapon Systems: Four missile tubes on the frontal and rear sections, and twelve dual artillary cannon pivoting turrets across the chassis.
Dock Capacity: Two squadrons of five armored Missile Fighters.

NOTE: The Victoria was built with the aid of two other nations about our size who recently quit (the Underrealms and the Blood Cabal), to those who argue against our ability to fund such a vessel. Furthermore, the grav system is new technology to our nation and is very risky, so it is not future tech, mearly slightly-post-modern tech.

The Empire of Supremacy N Greatness has publicy spoken out about its support for RFF on this issue. It has also revealed plans for a complete ban on religion within it's nation. The Empire of SnG would not be drawn on whether it would commit physical support to RFF either now or in the future.

The Commonwealth sends its moral support and withdraws its carriers.

-Chancellor James Lynch, Commonwealth of Seversky.

The Empire of Supremacy N Greatness has publicy spoken out about its support for RFF on this issue. It has also revealed plans for a complete ban on religion within it's nation. The Empire of SnG would not be drawn on whether it would commit physical support to RFF either now or in the future.

OOC: You're out of your league. The only reason I've even considered getting envolved is the Victoria, which I recieved help from two other nations with to build. (Total population at the time about double my current, good economies all around.) For your safety, I suggest you don't get envolved.

OOC: Donty worry, I know it's way to soon to be getting into any major conflict. However my nation will always speak out on what it believes in.

OOC: Getting our focus back on the war and off the seatwarmers...
IC: Although a large percentile of Muktar's population is christian, it feels obligated to become envolved in the defense of the RFF. The Victoria Aerial Fleet will be launching should any military action be taken.

Victoria Aerial Fleet Logistics:
10 Squadrons of 7 Missile Fighters, each armed with eight rockets and a light autocannon.
20 Squadrons of 7 Gunboat Fighters, each armed with twin heavy autocannons.
The Victoria:
Chassis Base: Aircraft Carrier
Propulsion System: Magnetic Gravitation System for lift, Nuclear Reactor engine.
Weapon Systems: Four missile tubes on the frontal and rear sections, and twelve dual artillary cannon pivoting turrets across the chassis.
Dock Capacity: Two squadrons of five armored Missile Fighters.

NOTE: The Victoria was built with the aid of two other nations about our size who recently quit (the Underrealms and the Blood Cabal), to those who argue against our ability to fund such a vessel. Furthermore, the grav system is new technology to our nation and is very risky, so it is not future tech, mearly slightly-post-modern tech.

OOC: can we try to keep this modern tech? theres no way something can float and stay in the atmosphere and be only nearly post modern tech.

OOC: Getting our focus back on the war and off the seatwarmers...
IC: Although a large percentile of Muktar's population is christian, it feels obligated to become envolved in the defense of the RFF. The Victoria Aerial Fleet will be launching should any military action be taken.

Victoria Aerial Fleet Logistics:
10 Squadrons of 7 Missile Fighters, each armed with eight rockets and a light autocannon.
20 Squadrons of 7 Gunboat Fighters, each armed with twin heavy autocannons.
The Victoria:
Chassis Base: Aircraft Carrier
Propulsion System: Magnetic Gravitation System for lift, Nuclear Reactor engine.
Weapon Systems: Four missile tubes on the frontal and rear sections, and twelve dual artillary cannon pivoting turrets across the chassis.
Dock Capacity: Two squadrons of five armored Missile Fighters.

NOTE: The Victoria was built with the aid of two other nations about our size who recently quit (the Underrealms and the Blood Cabal), to those who argue against our ability to fund such a vessel. Furthermore, the grav system is new technology to our nation and is very risky, so it is not future tech, mearly slightly-post-modern tech.

OOC: can we try to keep this modern tech? theres no way something can float and stay in the atmosphere and be only nearly post modern tech.

OOC: Getting our focus back on the war and off the seatwarmers...
IC: Although a large percentile of Muktar's population is christian, it feels obligated to become envolved in the defense of the RFF. The Victoria Aerial Fleet will be launching should any military action be taken.

Victoria Aerial Fleet Logistics:
10 Squadrons of 7 Missile Fighters, each armed with eight rockets and a light autocannon.
20 Squadrons of 7 Gunboat Fighters, each armed with twin heavy autocannons.
The Victoria:
Chassis Base: Aircraft Carrier
Propulsion System: Magnetic Gravitation System for lift, Nuclear Reactor engine.
Weapon Systems: Four missile tubes on the frontal and rear sections, and twelve dual artillary cannon pivoting turrets across the chassis.
Dock Capacity: Two squadrons of five armored Missile Fighters.

NOTE: The Victoria was built with the aid of two other nations about our size who recently quit (the Underrealms and the Blood Cabal), to those who argue against our ability to fund such a vessel. Furthermore, the grav system is new technology to our nation and is very risky, so it is not future tech, mearly slightly-post-modern tech.

OOC: can we try to keep this modern tech? theres no way something can float and stay in the atmosphere and be only nearly post modern tech.

The Victoria is currently being refitted with a series of vertical thrusters and excessive propellers due to an unexplained failure of the grav system.

OOC: If you say that's too much, watch Tale Spin sometime. Go Don Carnage!

OOC:still alot but its fine. question how big is it?

Shortly after midnight (NS Eastern Time) the 5th carrier battle group under Admiral Holeman recieved its orders concering the recently declared war on RFF. Holeman read the readout again before fully processing it. Here he was, just out of a near war in another region, being thrust into yet another war. Holeman sighed and rubbed his eyes. It was going to be a long night. He walked over to his desk officer and placed an order.

"Have the fleet take up defensive formations. Offer escort to any vessel evacuating refugees, they are not to be fired upon. Hostile ships are to be eliminated. Send up the U2 birds we have, I want them running 24-hour radar sweeps of the area. Prep as many fighters as we can for quick luanch and have the pilots rotated on shifts so we can luanch at any time. Also, put the patrol boats out on wide sweeps, I want some on-sight as well as radar intel. Fianlly, have the subs run sonar sweeps through their ranges. Then have them deploy the depth charges and have them mark the locations for us so we don't run into them. I'm going to get some sleep now."

Holeman walked off to his quarters, hearing th faint voice of the comm operator relaying his orders to the rest of his battle fleet.


OOC: These are the forces that were sent in the original thread to defend RFF, they're still there.

Firstly I would like to address the international community about the information Belem has failed to add to this topic, seeing as they enjoy war it is clear they have failed to add this information so it would make them look benevolent or something...


RFF has released all Christians to be evacuated and granted asylum by the following nations:

Iuthia
Hattia
Jeruselem

And as such these laws will effect no one in his nation, seeing as all member of the christian faith will remain in his Nation.

I would also like to point out that no attempt has been made by the Belem leadership to try and solve this situation diplomatically, while myself and others have managed to reduce the effect of this law so it is pretty much irrelivant to RFF's people, no Christains can be arrested in his nation because no Christians exist in this nation.

As such we would like to ask the Belem leadership again to stand down. This war is pointless and is quickly begining to look like Belem enjoys such conflict, which is highly un-christian.

Iuthia's fleet is but a couple days away from this nation and we are prepared to bring in allies to assure that this nation keeps it's soviegn right to rule themselves as they see fit.

Stand down, this is no reason for war.


OOC: Mobilisation and deployment had begun in the last thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122789&start=60

I would also like to note that many of the nations that supported Belem have stood down...

If nations want to join this then I suggest they at least read all of this thread before jumping in and making a fool of themselves.

May I help, Belem?

I can send my last of my 10 Terrorists.

May I help, Belem?

I can send my last of my 10 Terrorists.

So you are openly admitting to the international community that you support terrorists... ohwell, I'll have to take note of it.

May I help, Belem?

I can send my last of my 10 Terrorists.

So you are openly admitting to the international community that you support terrorists... ohwell, I'll have to take note of it.


I do not support terrorists. My former Prime Minister was a terror leader. The last 10 Terrorists must be killed, or used during a war. The new leader, doesnt want people die, so now the terrorists must die themselves to support an enemy of war.

I do not support terrorists. My former Prime Minister was a terror leader. The last 10 Terrorists must be killed, or used during a war. The new leader, doesnt want people die, so now the terrorists must die themselves to support an enemy of war.

So instead of promtly executing them you will give them a chance of freedom by setting them on the people of RFF (being terrorists and all they will probably blow up a civilian target).

Whats more you seem to be against terrorism yet you are fully prepared to use their techniques providing it's against someone else...

Belem, as a fellow Ally we commend your defense of the Catholic faith and it's followers. However we feel a full scale war on RFF would be counter-productive to our efforts to spread the word of the faith as our kind may be seen to be as Christian Imperialists.

We should negiotatiate with the RFF government first to change their policy via less destructive means before an all-out war is necessary.

God bless

Are you suggesting that if diplomacy fails you will have no choice but to declare war? And you would do that despite the fact that they have permitted the release of prisoners?

Many other nations ban other religions, for example Camdean banned the jewish religion from his nation some time ago due to problems occuring in his nation. I doubt such a fuss wouldn't of occured if they had banned Islam...

What matters here is that the victims have are being relocated, yet it is still suggested that thousands should die in a pointless war to change a law which is effecting no one. War isn't going to solve anything, hell, it would probably turn the people of this nation against christianity more then before...

War is not the right course of action.


However, we are now changing our stance... we are now looking for the RFF government to change the punishment to "Deportation" so that all people accused of following Christianity can be relocated to a Christian nation at the cost to the nation of RRF.

Basically you are still getting converts, it's just that as soon as they convert they will be sent off to join their Christian brethen...

OOC:still alot but its fine. question how big is it?

Read 'Chassis Base' for a general idea. The main difference is that the base is flattened and broadened with lift engines so it can land without falling on its side.

Are you suggesting that if diplomacy fails you will have no choice but to declare war? And you would do that despite the fact that they have permitted the release of prisoners?

Many other nations ban other religions, for example Camdean banned the jewish religion from his nation some time ago due to problems occuring in his nation. I doubt such a fuss wouldn't of occured if they had banned Islam...

What matters here is that the victims have are being relocated, yet it is still suggested that thousands should die in a pointless war to change a law which is effecting no one. War isn't going to solve anything, hell, it would probably turn the people of this nation against christianity more then before...

War is not the right course of action.


However, we are now changing our stance... we are now looking for the RFF government to change the punishment to "Deportation" so that all people accused of following Christianity can be relocated to a Christian nation at the cost to the nation of RRF.

Basically you are still getting converts, it's just that as soon as they convert they will be sent off to join their Christian brethen...

The act of forcibly removing christains is a crime in amongst itself they are forcing them to leave there homes and to be relocated. You do realize that Hitler originally tried to forcibly relocate the jews, before he started to put them in ghettos then into concentration camps. By supporting RFF your supporting Hitler.

...By supporting RFF your supporting Hitler.

Such an ill-concieved and inaccurate comparison is sick. If you are going to compare the RFF to Hitler, consider this: Hitler and his closest supporters thought they were being good Christians.

Back to the matter at hand: The Victoria Aerial Fleet is ready to launch, and another Warender Class Airship is under construction, which will be called the Kodiak, after the most common species of our national animal in our nation. Support fighters in equal number to those for the Victoria are also being constructed. We are more than willing to defend the RFF against any of the baseless attacks Belem has planned.

And im sure the RFF officials think they are good whatever they believe in.


In reponse to these escalations two more fleets are being deployed to the RFF coast Approx. 500 miles out.

The Victoria Aerial Fleet has launched to defend against your attack. This is your last chance to stand down. We do not want to be in this war any more than anyone else.

Anonymous Quotes from Muktar:
"This is insane. Belem is going to war because of some law the RFF passed?"
"Those Belem whippersnappers should mind their Ps & Qs!"
"Such a pointless assault upon the nation of the RFF is not only a waste of resources and lives, but it also lowers Belem's international standing exponentially."

I can turn my fleet around and invade Muktar instead? would that be better?

The decision of the RFF should stay. The RFF law against christians does not concern your nations at all.

The decision of the RFF should stay. The RFF law against christians does not concern your nations at all.

It concerns all good christains.

We have already objected to their law, however it's their nation and while I may not like their law it is not my business to force them to change it, to do so would only vindicate their ideas around Christianity...

However, I object even more to the idea that a nation can invade another because they don't like the laws inplace... your not even attempting diplomacy. So far Iuthian diplomacy has reduced this laws effect so that all Christians involved are no longer in danger. Eventually we hope to turn their opinion around by showing that Christianity can be tolerant...

Your nation, however is steaming ahead to war with little diplomatic tact and further inforcing the stereotype that was used for RFF to justify this law to his people.

To even use the hitler arguement is low beyond your normal level Belem... we're not relocating them to ghetto's or another of the sort... hell with diplomacy you could take some of these people yourselves and show the world how charitable you are...

This war will only cause a pointless loss of lives... don't force my hand on this, I don't want to mobilise more then I have to on this one, I'd rather not have to defend anyone, let alone these guys...

They're not worth the loss, and trust me, even if you win your navy will be severely weakened...

Nazi Germany originally tried to relocate the Jews to differenent countries.

And isnt that how every tyrant starts? Belem is trying to prevent any other injustices from being performed by RFF.

anybody getting involved in internal affairs of state nations needs stopping. therefore being a new nation of only two weeks old i still believe rff to be right in themselves and offer aid but at the moment no armed troops

Nazi Germany originally tried to relocate the Jews to differenent countries.

And isnt that how every tyrant starts? Belem is trying to prevent any other injustices from being performed by RFF.

Nazi Germany also belived in Eugenics though Belem...

Good enough for some huh? But then again, it's your law and your not taking it to the level of the Nazi's... eitherway, Hilter is not a apt example in either case.


The point is that if it comes to the point where RFF claims he will kill Christians then we will step aside and allow you to annex the place to your hearts content... however for the time being we are making such an act impossible for him to commit... if you really want we can organise an Embassy to keep a constant eye on the politics of his nation, to give us warning of such a policy change...

However, I do believe that a war will only further incite hatred against Christianity... not only that it will cause the loss of many lives weakening all nations involved. This can be solved diplomatically.

Belem wont annex RFF, its not in our best interests of doing so we are just going to replace the government.

It depends on how much their people are against or for the government... if they are for the government like I suspect then it wouldn't have much effect.

In eithercase it wouldn't be right for us to kill their people to change their leadership... if their people were against the law then I would diplomatically ask that the government stands down, allowing the law to be changed... however if the majority of the people are for this law then we would have to convince them, without war I might add, that such a policy is wrong...

As I keep saying, this is cleaner when you use diplomacy, if the situation worsens in this nation then you may have your way, but for the time being no one is in danger...

Paper pushing will bring no solution and will take too long. If the RFF leaders cared about there people they would stand down and repeal the law.

Paper pushing will bring no solution and will take too long. If the RFF leaders cared about there people they would stand down and repeal the law.

You'll never know unless you try and you can afford to wait seeing as this law is currently not hurting anyone... unless you like being seen as a warmongering nation.

I do beleive they have stated that they will not fight in such a war anyways, their military isn't even preparing to defend... it's a poor tactic but they want to show that they are not willing to fight.

As for caring for their people... well, if the majority of the people want this law then they could say they were caring for their people. In which case a war will only increase their hatred and may produce anti-christian terrorist. If the people do not want this law then I see no reason why I can't diplomatically force the government out of power...

It's not paper pushing as such, just lots of empathic words describing how if they don't stand down I won't stand by them...

However, it's important that we accertain how the people think in this matter, if the majority of the population are against Christianity then it would be more suitable if we slowly work it out of them...

Iuthia I dont think he has agreed yet to release the Christians to you, I havent seen him state such a thing.
Perhaps I missed it, do you have any proof??

Iuthia I dont think he has agreed yet to release the Christians to you, I havent seen him state such a thing.
Perhaps I missed it, do you have any proof??

Perhaps in my haste I mis-read his statements, in which case I will telegram him the situation and how best to avoid the sharp end of it...

I'll keep it simple guys, if he isn't willing to bend at all on this then I will not be willing to defend him and then you will be free to change his government any way you want... however should I stand down I want your word that civilians will not be targeted.

I'm tired and I want to end this, one way or another... if he is unwilling to do anything towards making this situation better for himself then I will agree not to defend him.

All protesters have been released and their parole is up. They may now leave if they wish to countinue practising Christianity. A recent poll has been conducted and 76% of people wanted this law, 15% didn't care, and 9% didn't like it. The crime of Practising Christanity is only 5 years MAX. They can also choose to leave the country and not come back instead of prison. If Belem countinues, I will be forced to defend my nation. Beware I am future-tech. My military is setting up defences including, but not limited to, GTW-41 Disruptor Cannons, GTW ML-16 Aragon Lasers, GTW-15 Avengers, and GTW-32 Flails.

OOC: future tech isnt all powerful lasers are limited by range in the atmoshpere severly.

IC: Since RFF refuses to change there ways and is extremely harsh to there christain population we have no choice but to invade.

the 4 fleets are approx 500-600 miles out

2500 Tomahawk missiles are launched(they are shielded against emp.)
2000 are targetted against RFF defenses including his Anti ship weapons and early warning systems

200 are targeted against power plants

300 are targeted against the capitol city.

134 of the missles destined for the capital city were destroyed by missile defence. The rest destroyed homes and buissnesses. No goverment building were destroyed beacuse of the missile defences. Only 2 goverment employes have been killed. There have been atleast 6,100 deaths and 7,300 injuries. All exept two were civilan. Most of the deaths were children. Of the 200 destined for the power plants 120 were destroyed and power is down in alot of cities. All goverment buildings and factorys are however backed up by generators and are still in power. Of the 2,000 destined for the defences 1,354 were destoryed or missed and the others hit duing only minamal damage to my defences.

Now I am debating if I should destroy your ships in about 5 seconds.
*50 GTM Phoenix V missiles are shot at the enemy ships*

The Righteous Armed Republic of Quarka shall stand behind its Christian brother Belem and John Quantas has issued a statement to the Quarkan AP:


We shall not stand for such religious intolerance, especially towards the morality provided by Christianity. Such a nation is out for no good, if not evil.

I hereby put the national defense system on command, and I have asked General Hawthorne to put 1,000 ICBM nuclear warheads on standby. I have the button, on my desk, I may fire at any moment I feel necessary. This is an official warning to the rogue nation of RFF.

I have called upon the 47th, 48th, and 59th Quarkan Air Force Guard Squadrons to fly in the direction of RFF, and hover above this feeble nation.

The numbers follow:

47th
40 F-40 Quarkan Strategic Missle Fighters
30 Quarkan Modified B-52 Supersonic Bombers
100 F-16 Quarkan Tactical Strike Fighters

48th
100 F-40 Quarkan Strategic Missle Fighters

59th
30 Quarkan Air Assist "Giant" Troop Carriers, each filled with 150 paratroopers(4500 total troops), each soldier carrying Quarkan M-45 Automatic rifles.


Get ready to pay for your crimes of intolerance, RFF.

Now I am debating if I should destroy your ships in about 5 seconds.
*50 GTM Phoenix V missiles are shot at the enemy ships*

OOC: what type of warheads do these have? whats there range? whats there speed?

also your damage is a bit low for my attack.

IC: Another 700 tomahawks are launched against Anti missile systems.

I'm getting ready to shoot and ignore cannon at you. You don't have 1,000 WMDs. You are being a godmodder.

OOC: quarka is old enough to have 1k plus of nukes.

OOC:Here is what I have on the missiles:GTM Phoenix V
All-aspect seeking; same tracking system as the Interceptor; large payload (50 Kt), but somewhat slower than the Interceptor; one of the best fire-and-forget missiles ever developed; many fighter pilots within the GTA regard the Phoenix V as the weapon of choice against high value, heavily defended targets.

Also you are making a fool of your self you just caused thousands of civilan casulties when you attacked my city. I edited the numbers.

IC:230 of the missiles crash into the defences. 423 are destroyed by defences. 47 miss and hit the ground.
I launch 100 GTM Phoenix V missiles into your ships and wait to see what happens.

OOC: 50 Kilotons missiles? you realize those things would have to be huge. Considering thats the payload of most nuclear weapons.

I'm getting ready to shoot and ignore cannon at you. You don't have 1,000 WMDs. You are being a godmodder.

Am I now? Probably shouldn't inform you that my Gross Domestic Product is $40,470,000,000,000.

Also probably shouldn't inform you that I have somewhere between 15-20,000 nuclear warheads at my disposal, the exact number is classified.


We can and will use such force. Surrender or die. :!:


OOC: 50 kiloton? Come now.

50 kiloton? That's not 50 kt of TNT, is it? Prolly closer to 50 kt of play-doh.

I didn't even create that weapon. It's from the game freespace.

OOC: ok sure a 50 kiloton Anti ship missile. its your funeral in the end.


IC:
First wave attack

40 are shot down by Kracken anti air defense missiles

Half of a fleet is destroyed by the remaining 10

Weapons of Mass destruction have been used. Belem SDI grid goes hot, Missile trains leave stations.

Remaining Fleet begins to withdraw out of range of missiles and dispersing so missiles will destroy smaller numbers in each barrage.

160 F-40 Vampires and 160 F-42 Tiger Sharks are launched to protect the fleet against attacks.

12 Tomahawks are launched with tactical nuclear warheads against RFF launch sites.

6 20 Megaton satelite launched nukes are fired at RFF they are aimed at key military bases for any strategic weapons you have.
1 50 Megaton satelite launched nuke is fired against the RFF capitol.

Second wave
80 missiles are shot down by fighters and Kracken.
1 1/2 more task forces are destroyed.(4 task forces in a fleet)

OOC: satelite launched missiles hit there targets in about 5 minutes.

Quarka withdraws all forces. This war is too slow.


However, we do lend 100 Quarkan ICBM Nuclear Warheads to Belem to be used however they want.

Quarka has no liability for their use. Fighter squadrons have been called back.

This is a waste of resources. Good luck with our nukes.

OOC:If you could tell me which "key military bases" you are talking about. I don't see how you can shoot nukes across space. My earth territory is purely civilian. I only brought in military to protect them. Great move! You just launched 7 nukes into civilans.

OOC: pretty much anyplace where missiles are located is a target for 20 megatons.

OOC: pretty much anyplace where missiles are located is a target for 20 megatons.
OOC:You only killed a few of my men and destroyed my baby toys. Won't hurt my goverment any. That earth planet is drained of resources anyway. You did however kill countless innocents. I won't destroy you today. Mabey later.

OOC: I also targetted a 50 megaton against your capitol city on earth

OOC:It was entirely CIVILAN! I don't care! Nothing of worth there. But you might have pissed of my neighbors cause when the wind blows some babies might be born with three dicks or something.

OOC:First off RFF, when Belem shot his missles at you, he has the right to shoot them at whatever he wants!
You cant say his missles hit a persons house when he was aiming for your capitol, unless you shoot the missle down, but it wouldnt be near a goverment building and that would be against your protocol.

IC:
Klington Learning Channel
"Study the past, Represent the Present, and Jump for the Future."
The Emperor Duran held a press conferance today, and we are the first with coverage, here it is:
The Emperor steps up to the mic,"We have negotiated with The RFF, and they have not listened, let it be know that those who are blinded by arrogance shall not see an attack in its prime. And therefore are defenseless!
They claim to be advanced! We shall see!"
One of the great Klig'ion monks steps up to the mic, "Hello, my faithful people. War is horrible, but what is worse is peace, the kind of peace where you sit back, and watch others be harmed and wronged. We as Warriors will fight! I have begun the first stages for battle! I am honored...."

We have called on are Space Ships,(Yes we have them, advanced nations helped out.), to fly in and bombard your country, be prepared.
The Naval fleets are moving in to blockade your country and to drop off some troops.
My Black Ops team is moving in, and so our my Klig'ion monk battlions.
Also my airships are moving in, everyone strike now with me! Together we can gather enough strength to defeat this attrocity!

OOC: Just FYI everyone, Pathological Exiles is on vacation until at least Thursday night (Pacific Time)

OOC: The chances are that my military vessals pulled back as soon as the shit hit the fan...

Of course, you are welcome to shoot at them if you wish, they were not in range of the RFF coasts but they were close, if they are shot you know what will happen next but otherwise I am choosing to get out of this before my forces are hit by a stray Nuclear Blast...

All in all, I'm not willing to loose forces over RFF, had he been a bit more clear in any willing to co-operate I may have supported him... but seeing as the Christians were on "parole" when they were released goes to show that he wasn't willing to play dice in the manner we wanted.

Klington, do what you like and don't worry about the effect this may have on your UnAPS aplication, see TM for details... basically put your civil rights are too low, we are not allowed to vote on membership because it doesn't need a vote, inner alliance membership needs a vote, not outer alliance membership which requires a certain minimum of a nation.

The Admiral looked off at the enemy country, his ships where moving ever closer. A Captain entered the bridge, "Sir!" "Proceed, Captain."
"What is our plan, Sir?"
"These fools are cowards, we shall head towards a beach head, we will land here. They wont attack us. Their is no goverment there. We will run up the beach and set up a make-shift camp."
"Oh, is that what those Quick Constructors where for?"
"Precisely, but when a hornet stings a coward, their is usually a reaction, that is why we will have all gones up, and that is why we are taking precatiouns."
A few minutes later....
"Sir, we have landed, Proceed?"
"Proceed."
The Admiral ran to the Comm. Link.

~Broacasting Transmission~
Allies against the RFF, please move in and help support our postions.
We can use this base as a headquarters of attack, we request you immediate departure do our base, this is Klington Forces, Ending Transmission.
~End Transmission~

OOC: Why the fuck are nukes and space ships being used? Lets keep it at least sort of modern tech, okay?

IC: a lone U2 spy bird circled slowly over the nemy fleet. Out of sensor range, it was still picking up readings comming of the enemy forces. Large-scale invasion fleets had arrived in RFF territory and were now launching offensives. The bird circled around and headed back to the main fleet, already sending encrypted data streams.

Holeman glanced over the readout, taking in all of the information he had recieved. Once he was finished, he bagn to issue orders to his fleet.

"I want a full F/A-118 attack force out there. Pound the Belem remmnents of the Belem fleet and get them out of RFF waters. Send 3 of the attack subs to launch a suprise assualt against the Klington forces in the area, we need to prevent that force from setting up a base. Then, radio HQ and tell them we're going to need reinforcements.

Within minutes of the orders being issued, fighters were preping on the luanch bays of the carriers, missles were being loaded, fighters fueled and completing last minute maintanience. A fight would soon be at hand.

anyone want to respond?

OOC:Since The RFF has future-tech weapons I feel I should be allowed to use other future-tech weapons, but since you are only modern-tech, I wont use them on you.

IC:Pathological Exiles.....
You look like true warriors in every way, this shall be fun.
The Admiral ordered his command, everyone on deck, prepare to engage!
Men were hopping on the AA guns, and manning the jets, if they wanted death, it would be coming to them....
The air ship, gently floated towards the incoming enemies, "Engage!" Screamed the Captain, as hundreds of missles came out and were hurled at the enemy, "All fighter pilots, move, move, move!"

As the battle was happening the Klington Navy snuck the troops on shore....

Missles flew out towards the incoming fighters like sand in a storm. The F/A's took evasive action almost as soon as the missles were on screen, dropping chaff bursts and flares left and right. Still, the ariship had launched too many missles for the fighters to escape. 17 fighters exploded, creating bursts of intense light, then fell, flaming into the ocean below. The remainder of the fighters, 13 of them, survived the missle barrage, lined up with the enemy fleet, and began to luanch missles towards the ships.
*
On the Bridge of the Command Ship Holler's Gamble Admiral Holeman heard reports of "Fox Two" come in, but not enough.
"Engisn, how many fighters did we lose?"
"According to the U2 bird, 17, sir."
"Damn it!"
Not a good start Holeman though, but still, the remaining 13 out to be able to do their job.
*
Deep below the enemy fleet, the 3 stealth attack subs waited. The fighters above were doing their job, and, once they had left, it was time for the subs to do theirs. Each sub was armed with 18 Stinger Missles and was prepped to luanch them straight up into the belly of the unsuspecting fleet.
*
On a landing stip inside of Pathological Exiles, C-130 transport planes lined the runways, loading troops, supplies, and armor. They were to load as much as possible then launch and drop as close to the enemy forces as it was safe to do.

OOC: Reinforcements will be about a month (1 or 2 RL days) in coming. They consist of about 75,000 GI's armed with OICWs, 10,000 M-2 Bradley Light Infantry Support Vehicles, and 3,400 AR322 Line-Backer Mobile Artillery Cannons.

look i'm new here so i have no clue what u guys r talking about?

so if ur talking about this game then how do u go 2 war with some one?

"Sir, dont you think that subs will be a problem?"
"Oh, of course thanks for reminding me!"
"Release the Death Crabs, and call up a squadron of SubmerCrush's!"
"Yes, Sir!"
"Good, have the Airships defend our fleet!"

OOC: If you want to learn how to wage war, you prolly need to check in the FAQ section of the forums.

Klington, before I respond, what are the deathcrabs and subcrushers (what they look like, what they do, etc. . .) Also, are you going to post losses from my fighters' missle barrage?

OOC: Sorry I forgot about my Fighter losses, about 35 of my 78 fighters went down, alot of them directed the falling planes towards your ships, they all missed, except for one. They did cause a slight current that *slightly* pushed your ships off course.

My Death Crabs are mini-robotic crabs, that latch on to submarines and ships to drill through the hull, they also respon to torpedos, by jumping on them and self-destruct.
My SubmerCrushers, are a giant crab loaded with torpedos and crushing arms, they also use a sea-urchin like spiker that will make torpedos not have direct hits.

OOC: Interesting, okay, now we play. I may have to bust out some of the more modern stuff for this.

IC: Sir, Death Crabs, closing fast!
The commander of the lead attack sub PEFAS Lightning ran over the the radar and looked down. "Damn!" There were easily dozens of the miniature attack craft, all coming in to his little collection. "Luanch missles up towards the fleet above, we can't wait for the air battle to be over. Realease the chaff bursts as well, see if we can distract them. I want torpedo locks on the SUbmercrushers as well, Do it!"

The small sub fleet sprang into action, missles began to fire out of their luanch tubes, 1, 2, 3, 4 as many as they could get off in time. Out of the small side dump bays, bits of metal, scraps, spent ammo casings, and small radios were dumped into the ocean. The effect would be to confuse incoming craft by presenting dozens of small targets instead of the main sub. The radios (undersea models) transmitted signals, acting like the signals from a submarine, they would attempt to draw the death crabs away from the attack subs. One of the Submercrushers found its target though and crushed the PEFAS Stinger snapping it in half. Bits of metal and dead crewman drifted out of the wreak, slowly making their way towards the surface and the chaos above.

A stray plan smashed into the side of the PEBC Duantless Surviving the anti-aircraft barrages by sheer dumb luck, it slammed into the upper deak of the battle cruiser, causing massive topside damage. Fire Crews responded quickly, running to put out the remains of the fighter. 23 crewmen had been caught near the blast and killed instantly, another 37 were wounded and rushed down to the ships emergency bay. The rest of the fleet however, surged foreward. They were now in within striking distance from the long-range guns aboard the Battles ships and crusiers. Holeman gave the order, and the guns began to sound.

OOC: You can't declare losses on my side (i.e. fighter slamming into one of my ships) but I'll go with it this time.

OOC: I said it hit your ship, its up to you to say if it scratched your ship or decimated it, also 1 out of 37 is nothing, so there :lol: !

I will post more later...

waiting. . .