NationStates Jolt Archive

In a continuing policy in creating an empire of Han Chinese, the Five Civilized Nations has declared war on whoever controls China (whoever you are...). As we speak, two battle fleets based in the Magistrate Islands in the Pacific Ocean have been deployed off of the Chinese coast. In addition, naval and air troop transports have begun to load massive amounts of equipment and supplies to faciliate the invasion of China.

(OOC: If you are controlling China, please have topics where your claims are validated...)

Are you sure this action is wise. You know the person who controls china, could be twice you size.

(OOC: Urm... yeah... The only reason I want to do this is for fun... Plus I wanna get a couple of parts of China, which I plan to use for future RPs... The only way I can do that is attacking from the person who controls it. Plus, most of territory I control are in space, except for a couple of colonies here and there on Earth... )

The Republic of Ozymandias IV supports the FCN in its seeking to regain its ancestral homelands of the middle kingdom.

In an unrelated move, the Navy of the Republic shall deploy a carrier battle group to the South China Sea to conduct war games. These war games are expected to include some live-fire exercises and the Republic is issuing a warning to all ships to be aware of the potential for danger in this area.

This summer exercise will be known as Free Dragon and will continue for an as-yet unspecified time.

The exercise fleet shall consist of the following vessels:

- 1 x Kennedy Class Aircraft Carrier Intrepid
- 2 x Ticonderoa Class Crusiers
- 2 x Type 42 Destroyers
- 2 x Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
- 4 x 16 Type 23 Frigates
- 2 x Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
- 5 x Tango Class Submarines
- 2 x Hai Teng Class Subs

And the support vessels:
2 x Spear Class Sub Tenders
4 x Underway Oilers
4x Fast Combat Replenishment Ships

(OOC: Thanks Ozymandias IV, now, whoever controls China, get out here, and we'll have a big battle :twisted: )

[code:1:b56233d498]
~~Encrypted Message to FCN~~

Our ships are putting to sea in the guise of a 'training exercise' to secure your flank during your impending invasion of China.

Should a strike be aimed at your invasion fleet from this quarter, our ships will be well-situated to deal with it.

~~Message ends~~
[/code:1:b56233d498]

OOC: Er, um, doesn't Mallberta or TEO or Menelmacar control China?

Not sure if I remember right, but I think I recall there being a war involving them and China. Could be wrong though. You should ask them.

OOC: I think Mallberta does, not sure. I remember for a while I controlled parts of China after I invaded, but I ended up giving them back.

(OOC: I think Niancio also claimed he controlled China... Although I'm not sure anymore...)

BUMP!!!!!

(OOC: I know someone controls China, but if you don't come out, I'll just claim it for myself...)

OOC: Dude, not everybody is on at this time. Hang in there.

OOC: Dude, not everybody is on at this time. Hang in there.

I know, I'll wait till tomorrow this time, and if nobody responds, I'll just move in under a pretext of "liberation"...

<OOC>
According to the RL Nation Claims thread, Nianacio owns most of southeast asia, including China and both Koreas. There are also several nations with Chinese possessions, including Perfect China. Mallberta invaded through Mongolia several months ago, and is probably still there. Omz222 was involved in that as well, and had occupied territory north of the Yalu river.

The Dominion is a major trading partner with several of the Chinese mainland nations, and has diplomatic and trade relationships with most nations on the Pacific Rim.

TEO

wait wait, hold on, i just realized it, i own china (the territory) and the surrounding territory (Japan, All of korea, mongolia and half of the nation to the direct west, i forget which it is). There is a map of my territory on the IADF forums. (take a look)

We will provide paratroops and aircraft for the FCN forces. We wish to control at least some of this liberated China.

Dude, you should check to see if there's a china region-you may face more than you bargain for...

Wooo yay!

I own Kazakhstan, or at least half which isn't Credonian.

I smell ground assault :D

LMAO FCN and OZY are allies of mine

<OOC>
According to the RL Nation Claims thread, Nianacio owns most of southeast asia, including China and both Koreas. There are also several nations with Chinese possessions, including Perfect China. Mallberta invaded through Mongolia several months ago, and is probably still there. Omz222 was involved in that as well, and had occupied territory north of the Yalu river.

The Dominion is a major trading partner with several of the Chinese mainland nations, and has diplomatic and trade relationships with most nations on the Pacific Rim.

TEO

Hey, I'm planning on conquering my part of it... And I'm not worried about facing people in the China region, for I have plenty of allies... :wink:

wait wait, hold on, i just realized it, i own china (the territory) and the surrounding territory (Japan, All of korea, mongolia and half of the nation to the direct west, i forget which it is). There is a map of my territory on the IADF forums. (take a look)

Um... There are a lot of people claiming to own China, so I'm trying to put things straight with this topic...

BUMP!!!

OOC

It might be "Taiwan_" who claims China and Taiwan. There's also "Perfect China".

Okay, I send TGs to them and find out (hopefully)...

OOC:

_Taiwan only claims part of Taiwan and none of China. Maropian Coast is supposed to be the other part of Taiwan - it is controlled by Bonstock.

Sino, Perfect China, and many other nations all seem to own part of China.

As for the rest of the East Asia many other nations claim to be in the vicinity.

Maybe you should look at the region "United China", or "China".

OOC:

_Taiwan only claims part of Taiwan and none of China. Maropian Coast is supposed to be the other part of Taiwan - it is controlled by Bonstock.

Sino, Perfect China, and many other nations all seem to own part of China.

As for the rest of the East Asia many other nations claim to be in the vicinity.

Maybe you should look at the region "United China", or "China".

Yow, it was _Taiwan.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110238

(OOC: Urg... Now I really want to take China away...lol... Anyways, I sent a puppet to their regions and left some messages...)

(OOC: Urg... Now I really want to take China away...lol... Anyways, I sent a puppet to their regions and left some messages...)

Good luck. I think _Taiwan is online now.

(OOC: Urg... Now I really want to take China away...lol... Anyways, I sent a puppet to their regions and left some messages...)

Good luck. I think _Taiwan is online now.

(OOC: Thanks, let's just hope that I won't have to call in all my favors for this war...)

OOC: _Taiwan created the region United China I think. Remember, Taiwan still is considered part of China. And up until recently they wanted to be recognized as the legitimate Chinese government (in RL)

Taiwan does not control mainland China - see

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116358&start=500

although it is hard to keep track of who owns what. And so many people claim to own China that it is hard to get a straight answer.

OOC: _Taiwan created the region United China I think. Remember, Taiwan still is considered part of China. And up until recently they wanted to be recognized as the legitimate Chinese government (in RL)

Taiwan does not control mainland China - see

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116358&start=500

although it is hard to keep track of who owns what. And so many people claim to own China that it is hard to get a straight answer.

(OOC: lol, the main goal of this thread was to get people's attention and figure out who the hell owns China... If nobody did, I would probably just waltz in and claim it... If somebody does, I'll challenge them for parts of it, mainly the cities of Shanghai and Nanjing, and the island of Hainan.

ooc:There are many people who claim it, 's free-form RP for you. China is still Chinese in many people's eyes. The People's Republic of China is one of Dra-pol's few allies, for example. If you just waltz in and take it you'll have to fight the Chinese and the Drapoel. Dra-pol being where most place North Korea, and being for all intents and purposes North Korea on PCP. Oh, unless you're future tech or something, which now looks likely. In that case I'll just carry on as if China was Chinese and not get involved, which'd be lucky for you :) [climbs-down $26 trillion military]

ooc:There are many people who claim it, 's free-form RP for you. China is still Chinese in many people's eyes. The People's Republic of China is one of Dra-pol's few allies, for example. If you just waltz in and take it you'll have to fight the Chinese and the Drapoel. Dra-pol being where most place North Korea, and being for all intents and purposes North Korea on PCP. Oh, unless you're future tech or something, which now looks likely. In that case I'll just carry on as if China was Chinese and not get involved, which'd be lucky for you :) [climbs-down $26 trillion military]

(OOC: I'm not that future-tech, although I "have" a future-tech space fleet and all, I only use that for future-tech wars. I'm mainly post-modern to near-future tech... The majority of my population lives on two recently created archipelago, which surfaced because of some tetonic plate upheavels, one in the Pacific and the other in the Atlantic... A small percentage of my population lives on small parts of the moon and we've "borrowed" (more likely stolen) a nation's space-travel device, allowing us to "colonize" two small faraway planets with only about 2,000 colonists for each planet... And Dra-pol, note my creation date and my "frequent" references to many allies, so if it comes down to war, please join, it'll be more fun :D

My main goal by invading China is setting up some modern territory that I can effectively RP from. My future-tech territory has already been cemented and been acknowledged (i.e. hasn't been disputed), so I only need the territory to say 2050...)

ooc: Hm, I'll keep an eye on things then. If the China that is attacked is a socialist one with which the Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol would be allied then we will most likely join in. For the record, my references to North Korea aren't without foundation- in the CPRD "Juche works" as one of our regional neighbours recently observed. Imagine fifty times as many North Koreans with a near fifty times stronger economy per capita and an even longer-standing indoctrination into the revolution and a centuries old xenophobic paranoia to boot. The recent Crusader Wars (Quinntonian-lead capitalist Christian coalition of about five or more states attacked Dra-pol, three million died, attempt to over-throw Drapoel leadership failed) finally forced the modernisation of our previously WWII-era military.
Anyway, I'm rambling.. carry on, I'll just wait and see what happens.

ooc: Hm, I'll keep an eye on things then. If the China that is attacked is a socialist one with which the Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol would be allied then we will most likely join in. For the record, my references to North Korea aren't without foundation- in the CPRD "Juche works" as one of our regional neighbours recently observed. Imagine fifty times as many North Koreans with a near fifty times stronger economy per capita and an even longer-standing indoctrination into the revolution and a centuries old xenophobic paranoia to boot. The recent Crusader Wars (Quinntonian-lead capitalist Christian coalition of about five or more states attacked Dra-pol, three million died, attempt to over-throw Drapoel leadership failed) finally forced the modernisation of our previously WWII-era military.
Anyway, I'm rambling.. carry on, I'll just wait and see what happens.

(OOC: :lol: , beware of the might of 5CN, its allies and colonies... Beware that you don't bite off more than you can chew... Btw, how big was the Quinntonian coalition? Anyways, imagine USA plus China as one nation :wink: ...)

ooc:The coalition was lead by Quinntonia which today has a pop. of 1.127bln. That nation landed on the east coast while Dra-pol was still totally isolationist, and fought what we call the Three Day War (and they call Kurosian's Rage) against our backwards nation. Until that point our people had been told that the outside world was destroyed at the end of the second world war, and they initially thought the white men to be evil spirits. In the coming years we began to modernise, and Quinntonia had taken an area of the east coast. We tried to get it back, and in came the coalition. Happy Baseball Fans (pop.1.284bln.) landed on the west coast, the Promise of Joshua (pop. 0.971bln), and Raysia (pop.1.23bln.) landed too, and other nations contributed forces usually under allied command. Dra-pol received some token shipments of medical supplies, ammuniton -largely 7.62x39mm from nations assuming we used AK-47s, though we do not- and I think three or four SAM batteries, and no allied troops. Raysia and POJ were knocked out of the war, the latter's troops killed to a man. In the end the war was something of a stalemate.

Ach, you have to avoid encouraging me or I'll just go on for hours :)

(OOC: In reality, I wouldn't have blundered as they did, by continuing to conquer. I would have first consolidated the territory I already have and then attacked... My attacking, they undoubtedly created long supply lines, something very easily taken care of...

Your troops would have the patriotic feeling of defending their nation, while my troops would with their "fanatical" wanting for a return to China...

For my invasion, I'll conquer (hopefully) with a massive blitzkrieg Shanghai, Nanjing, and the island of Hainan. I'll create and maintain a strong defense perimeter around the cities of Nanjing and Shanghai and use my navy to defend Hainan and both cities. Trust me, you're going to have a lot of problems trying to take back these territories. If I dig in with only 25% of the troops you have and supported by a good proportion of my navy, chances of you penetrating through the defenses are relatively slim...)

ooc:Well, they had consolidated Hamhung and Hungnam together on the east coast and we attacked it. We'd have taken it back eventually, but HBF landed on the west and drew forces away. True, Raysia went on the offensive and fell into a giant trap, its entire airborn force being killed or captured, but POJ's forces tried to hold on the east and were surrounded and over-run. Anyway, Dra-pol has never invaded another nation, so we're less than experienced in foreign deployments. We're probably over-run the first enemy position then run out of supplies and either starve or die in mass bayonet charges. Again.
Likely China will end up controlled by someone Dra-pol isn't interested in helping though :)

ooc:Well, they had consolidated Hamhung and Hungnam together on the east coast and we attacked it. We'd have taken it back eventually, but HBF landed on the west and drew forces away. True, Raysia went on the offensive and fell into a giant trap, its entire airborn force being killed or captured, but POJ's forces tried to hold on the east and were surrounded and over-run. Anyway, Dra-pol has never invaded another nation, so we're less than experienced in foreign deployments. We're probably over-run the first enemy position then run out of supplies and either starve or die in mass bayonet charges. Again.
Likely China will end up controlled by someone Dra-pol isn't interested in helping though :)

(OOC: Well then, you can join in on the invasion, i.e. you can have Manchuria...)

Dra-Pol should really feel free to engage in a massive, crippling war at any point, really....

Just forget about little Di....Dibu? Oh, nevermind that. Nothing going on, not at all.


Of course, if a massive conflict does break out in China, the Kilean Navy may just feel the need to sail in and grab a treaty port...

Those were the good old days, they were.

ooc:Wow, actually I hadn't even considered that.. it's not in the mindset I try to adopt for Drapoel RP.. but it might offer a whole new mess of RP potential.. A Drapoel occuption? Heh, alright.. I'll consider that the Central Directorature is preparing two lines of propaganda, one that paints FCN as yet more imperialists who must be resisted for the sake of the revolution, and another that focuses on "progressive" aspects of your society such as stepped income-tax, flying of possibly revolutionary colours and so on, while pointing out that our beloved Director Kurosian I was killed in China.. (beaten to death in a toilet, though we officially maintain that he died defending a conference hall from foreign terrorists).

The decision will have to wait until IC activity starts, at which point your government would presumably try to make a good impression on powerful Chinese neighbours such as the CPRD.

Dra-Pol should really feel free to engage in a massive, crippling war at any point, really....

Just forget about little Di....Dibu? Oh, nevermind that. Nothing going on, not at all.

ooc: Heh, yeah.. still can't figure out how on earth to deploy there. We've two dozen missile boats in our Coast Guard and no ocean-going navy. I would have been willing to very gradually ship and fly things in, but with a blockade up it's just too late. Of course, if we some day break our introspective nature and start to build up offensive forces you just never know who might be liberated next!

ooc:Wow, actually I hadn't even considered that.. it's not in the mindset I try to adopt for Drapoel RP.. but it might offer a whole new mess of RP potential.. A Drapoel occuption? Heh, alright.. I'll consider that the Central Directorature is preparing two lines of propaganda, one that paints FCN as yet more imperialists who must be resisted for the sake of the revolution, and another that focuses on "progressive" aspects of your society such as stepped income-tax, flying of possibly revolutionary colours and so on, while pointing out that our beloved Director Kurosian I was killed in China.. (beaten to death in a toilet, though we officially maintain that he died defending a conference hall from foreign terrorists).

The decision will have to wait until IC activity starts, at which point your government would presumably try to make a good impression on powerful Chinese neighbours such as the CPRD.

(OOC: lol, now I just have to figure who the hell controls China... In addition, in the event of war, which I conquer China, there will be no treaty ports created. Manchuria will be ceded to Dra-pol, except for the city of Harbin. Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia will be ceded to probably Credonia or someone else. Tibet will be given to whoever just wants it... Meanwhile, I will maintain a hold on the remaining majority of China, containing the majority of its population...)

China for the Chinese! Although many of the Asian Alliance members are still finishing the Post War things between Bnstock, Japann, and Asian Alliance itself. We will quickly take charge at this. China was once USSR and was made independent after peaceful demonstartions and requests.

As our sister region of United China is China, we will defend her. As to invade China and bag their cities is quite imperialistic, that may already give reason for war.

I ask you not to invade China. China is a multi helped region which is defended by many nations. Doing this will resuklt in the same consequences of Bonstock, Red Tide, and the maropian Coasts as of their defeat.

OOC: When the dung hits the fan, let's keep this RP a modern tech affair.

===============================================

Although the Armed Republic of Sino maintains a strong stance on repatriation of the Motherland (OOC: Sino is not located in China), the 5CN in their bid to gain support have permanently soured their relations with us. The 5CN are traitors who call themselves nationalists by allowing to cede territories to communist nations like Dra-pol and your subhuman allies.

We strongly advice you to backdown your threats or face the serious consequences of war with the Armed Republic of Sino. You know that we have a greater population and a superior economy. Our forces that are occupying Japann (OOC: Japan) are free to reinforce our Chinese brothers in standing fast against your threats of invasion.

The 5CN should adopt our policy towards China, where we regard ourselves to be a part of China, although distant and different in government, our people are undoubtedly a Han Chinese majority and this majority is ultranationalistic.

We do not and will not condone your treachery upon nationalism.

===============================================

As Xiaguo is located in nothern China, we strongly advise Xiaguo to allow the mass stationing of Sinoese forces there for the duration of this conflict.

The Sinoese Navy's First Pacific Fleet located in the South China Seas shall be reinforced with more vessels including the newly commissioned supercarrier (capable of accomodating 100 or so fighters).

===============================================

Semi-OOC: Our message to whoever controls China, for now, we are willing to forget our political difference in order to stand up to this common threat. Let our forces be stationed in China, for we believe in the territorial integrity of China.

ZHONGGUO DIYI!!!

I claime china back in june but i dunno.

ooc:I think its worth noting that ic references to the CPRD are quite out of the blue and utterly of your own motivation- all my posts thus far have been ooc and no other nation has a clue that we'd even consider invading anybody. Hell, we haven't even heard talk of an invasion of China by 5CN or anyone else. Our forces remain primarily concentrated around Hamhung/Hunganm and along the edge of the DMZ between Dra-pol (DPRK) and South Dalania (ROK). Dra-pol may yet A)have no involvement at all, B)invade Manchuria, or C)throw millions of men into the defence of the Chinese People's Republic. Depends on which manifestation of China 5CN ends up attacking.

Since both 5CN and Sino fly the same flag, it is with urgency that ARSCF (Armed Republic of Sino Combined Forces) will now temporarily fly a new flag.

The new flag will feature the traditional Chinese character of 'Liu' in an ancient style of font, this is to represent that they are under the command of ARSCF Supreme Commander Gen. Liu. The character will be in yellow, before a red background (a color scheme based on the Chinese flag). This flag is likely to be square, accompanied by 'wolves' fangs' (triangular cloth pieces sown on the edges), common on many ancient Chinese military flags.

OOC: Someone TG Omz222. He owns the account PRC China.

OOC2: My current President declared independence from the mainland a while back, but no one recognises it.

OOC3: So, there'll be no IC post until we figure out who is China.

Armies
Armed with the pen
Armed with the gun
Armies of Red men
Armies of the sun




We will fight if talking don't work.

ooc: Dra-pol's right, the amount of resistance that 5CN will face will vary depending on which part of China he attacks. Although I thought Dra-pol was also an Asian Alliance member?

ATA will support China. For I am Chinese!

The forces of A.T.A. will be at China in 3 RL hours, with our unique fast jets. Let's say, 200,000 ATA soldiers.

OOC: Please don't godmod.

OOC2: I think we should make this the OOC thread and have a proper RP thread elsewhere.

OOC3: Perhaps we should refrain from posting more until we decide who is playing China proper.

5CN Declares War on Whoever Controls China

Very professional.

Semi OOC - We shall watch this situation, we are in the Asian region, if the person playing China is in this region we may consider involvement. That is almost certain if they are any ally/trade partner.

<OOC>
. Mallberta invaded through Mongolia several months ago, and is probably still there. Omz222 was involved in that as well, and had occupied territory north of the Yalu river.


TEO

Me, EI that is, and AG (Agrigento) as well as a coalition of others booted him out of CHina, if you dont remember.
ANd Menelmacar, who also moved to secure her possessions there, was ignored by us.

****
"Any person who wishes to imperialize China will have to go through us," a greatly weakened Premier Chai Jun said today from the Politburo in her first televised speech for five months. "China is for the Chinese, and however Chinese Five Civilized Nations is, we cannot and will not allow one single entity to control our homeland, as well as all of Asia.
"This is especially shocking since FCN was, at one time, part of the Resistance and a sworn member against imperialism in all forms. Sadly, now we find our former ally perpetuating the stain of domination through Asia, and we may be forced to go to war again.
"Step down, FCN. Renounce your claims. The Resistance is bloodied from the previous war, but not defeated, and we will fight again if circumstances require it."

simply put,i support FCN,and if he wins the war no other nations would have legitimate claims to china,they must do what FCN did to get part of china,only once FCN is in china,i think it would be difficult to get him out...

(OOC: :) with the response... Guys calm down... My main reason for wanting a part of China is because I want something to RP realistically from (RPing from two nonexistent archipelagoes sucks). If I actually invade China (against someone), I would not continue after I've conquered Hainan and the city of Shanghai (my hometown) and maybe Nanjing. But otherwise I would not continue on the offensive... I am not technically seeking IMPERIALISTIC policy, as I have no empire to speak of, just two small archipelagoes that don't exist... THEREFORE I WILL MAINTAIN MY CLAIMS UPON THE ISLAND OF HAINAN AND THE CITIES OF SHANGHAI AND NANJING.)

ooc:I think its worth noting that ic references to the CPRD are quite out of the blue and utterly of your own motivation- all my posts thus far have been ooc and no other nation has a clue that we'd even consider invading anybody. Hell, we haven't even heard talk of an invasion of China by 5CN or anyone else. Our forces remain primarily concentrated around Hamhung/Hunganm and along the edge of the DMZ between Dra-pol (DPRK) and South Dalania (ROK). Dra-pol may yet A)have no involvement at all, B)invade Manchuria, or C)throw millions of men into the defence of the Chinese People's Republic. Depends on which manifestation of China 5CN ends up attacking.

********
You realize that if you invade, you're kicked out of the AA.





But otherwise I would not continue on the offensive... I am not technically seeking IMPERIALISTIC policy, as I have no empire to speak of, just two small archipelagoes that don't exist... THEREFORE I WILL MAINTAIN MY CLAIMS UPON THE ISLAND OF HAINAN AND THE CITIES OF SHANGHAI AND NANJING.)

All empires started SOMEHOW. And all imperialists started SOMEHOW.
I have twelve divisions stationed in PRC China, mainland China, and about eight or so on Taiwan from the Bonstockian War.

AA forces included, you're going to have a hell of a war.
*********
The Islandian government has delivered a request to the South Dalanians through General Sung Minlee, commander of Pacific Islandian forces, to allow for the stationing of various defense troops in Dalanian territory.

Missile batteries based in PRC CHina and Mainland China have been alerted and are on full alert. Advanced fighter planes have been scrambled and are flying routine CAPs over the area.

around fifty Islandian naval ships in east Asia, based in and around Taiwan and South CHina, have been alerted and are now on manuevers.

ANY HOSTILES WILL BE SUNK IMMEDIATELY.

Meanwhile, forces in the Spratlys and Paracels prepare to begin a blockade, stifling all traffic coming through the South China Sea. LOng range Scramjet missiles, Anshu SAMs have been shipped there via VTOL transports, and the garrison and fortifications bolstered.

~~REPEATING AN EARLIER MESSAGE~~

The Republic of Ozymandias IV has announced that its ruling council has given permission for the Navy of the Republic to deploy a carrier battle group to the South China Sea to conduct war games. These war games are expected to include some live-fire exercises and the Republic is issuing a warning to all ships to be aware of the potential for danger in this area.

This summer exercise will be known as Free Dragon and will continue for an as-yet unspecified time.

The exercise fleet shall consist of the following vessels:

- 1 x Kennedy Class Aircraft Carrier Intrepid
- 2 x Ticonderoa Class Crusiers
- 2 x Type 42 Destroyers
- 2 x Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
- 4 x 16 Type 23 Frigates
- 2 x Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
- 5 x Tango Class Submarines
- 2 x Hai Teng Class Subs

And the support vessels:
2 x Spear Class Sub Tenders
4 x Underway Oilers
4x Fast Combat Replenishment Ships

The Islandian government is warning the government of Ozymandias IV that any moves into coalition territory in the South China Sea is not welcome. As of now, Islandian naval forces are closing off the area in the Spratly Islands to foreign military ships, with a time window of twelve days to set course OUT of the region, and are deeming all craft not of the AA as 'potentially hostile.' After the time period, all craft there will be fired on; we have come too far to allow a Bonstockian or Bonstockian-allied fleet to disrupt our success.

Communique from Islandian government


In reality, only craft from Ozymandias IV, FCN, and various other navies were being monitored; alll other craft were given routes through the region.

In addition, Russian-made heavy-lift aircraft arrived in Islandian bases in Mainland China and PRC China, dropping off elements of the Third Lancers Armored Division, recently returned from Japan, as well as two new armored brigades from Islandia. Special warfare groups assigned to the China area command have also been deployed into various areas around Southern China and Manchuria, and resistance cells have begun to spring up, organized by the Islandian Joint Special Operations Command.
Two more Advanced Fighter Divisions have been shipped to Mainland China, comprising mostly J400s and J37s.

Second Flag reserve catamarans of the coastal anti-ship/antisub interdiction units have been sent to bases in Taiwan, escorting various troopships due to arrive over the course of three days. Catamaran destroyers, frigates, and cruisers dock at nearby facilities in the Chinese mainland, but are quickly soon whisked away to hidden docks, out of reach of satellite intelligence.

Hundreds of tons of reinforcing materials and supplies are sent via IL76 and Tu330 flights daily from bases in Erdana Reef, to Okinawa, then to Southern China and the Eastern Chinese seaboard.

Pending Dalania's approval of the request to station Islandian troops there, a full assault division will be garrisoned there, along with several Korean specialists from the Joint Special Ops Command...

In response to this, the Armed Republic of Lost Hills begins preparing:

1 Carrier Fleet
2 Amphibious Assault Fleets
2 Marine Divisions
1 Marine Aviation Division
1 Airborne Division
1 Armored Calvary Division

Several more infantry divisions are on standby.

ooc:In response to what? What are you all responding to? Has 5CN said anything in character yet? You're all spending billions of dollars and boxing-in one of the most paranoid militarist states on earth without any clear motivation or warning, and DaKhiem is liable to panic and kill tens of millions of people as a direct result.
Dra-pol has not uttered a single word on this whole affair, and has never in its entire history had any contact at all (correct me if I'm wrong) with 5CN, and I really don't think 5CN has done anything yet, either.. it seems to me that he's still not figured out who to RP with/against. I must admit to the title of the thread being a bit ambiguous, mind. 's not really an international incident yet, either.

Missile batteries based in PRC CHina and Mainland China have been alerted and are on full alert. Advanced fighter planes have been scrambled and are flying routine CAPs over the area.

around fifty Islandian naval ships in east Asia, based in and around Taiwan and South CHina, have been alerted and are now on manuevers.

ANY HOSTILES WILL BE SUNK IMMEDIATELY.

Meanwhile, forces in the Spratlys and Paracels prepare to begin a blockade, stifling all traffic coming through the South China Sea. LOng range Scramjet missiles, Anshu SAMs have been shipped there via VTOL transports, and the garrison and fortifications bolstered.

A great deal of Evil Overlord Enterprises trade goes through the South China Sea. His Omniferocity wishes to know why you are interdicting neutral shipping before any nation has taken any hostile action.

His Omniferocity has no position regarding the incipient conflict- provided that free and unfettered trade is permitted to continue.


Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

Hey 5CN...

Valient will be on your side for this, definately.

BTW, has anyone claimed the west coast of Canada? Valient is just a commonwealth of islands and nations around the world, but is looking to expand to a larger land mass.

Canada is just off the coast. (No, not Vancouver Island :D )

Death to Imperialists! After that word of seeking more land, we condemn you! lol...

What I think here is Imperialism, but more Colonization. Please, do not lift all gears up wasting billions of dollars, they have not made their part yet. We will have to see their step before having ours moved in return. Save up, there will be a time when its ready. Xiaguo will stay firm and look forward.
Armies
Armed with the pen
Armed with the gun
Armies of Red men
Armies of the sun

A great deal of Evil Overlord Enterprises trade goes through the South China Sea. His Omniferocity wishes to know why you are interdicting neutral shipping before any nation has taken any hostile action.

His Omniferocity has no position regarding the incipient conflict- provided that free and unfettered trade is permitted to continue.


Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

Perhaps I mixed myself up:

In light of the protests by EOE, Islandia relaxes its blockade so that its forces are not blocking free shipping; all military shipping is to be monitored heavily, but civilian shipping is to pass free and unhampered. As long as EOE will not trade to either side and stays neutral, they are free to pass through the South China Sea.

Has 5CN said anything in character yet?

Yes, my fellow Asian of unclear loyalties, he has. He said that 'FCN declares war on any nation that owns China and that our fleets are deploying along with Marine forces to make good on our threat."
Something to that extent. Read the first post again.

And I'm not boxing you in; I'm stationing troops in South Dalania in case they are needed for rapid cross-strait (the body of water separating Krn Peninsula from mainland China) actions. For now, you're still my ally, so i WOuldnt do anything to hurt you.

A great deal of Evil Overlord Enterprises trade goes through the South China Sea. His Omniferocity wishes to know why you are interdicting neutral shipping before any nation has taken any hostile action.

His Omniferocity has no position regarding the incipient conflict- provided that free and unfettered trade is permitted to continue.


Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

Perhaps I mixed myself up:

In light of the protests by EOE, Islandia relaxes its blockade so that its forces are not blocking free shipping; all military shipping is to be monitored heavily, but civilian shipping is to pass free and unhampered. As long as EOE will not trade to either side and stays neutral, they are free to pass through the South China Sea.

Has 5CN said anything in character yet?

Yes, my fellow Asian of unclear loyalties, he has. He said that 'FCN declares war on any nation that owns China and that our fleets are deploying along with Marine forces to make good on our threat."
Something to that extent. Read the first post again.

And I'm not boxing you in; I'm stationing troops in South Dalania in case they are needed for rapid cross-strait (the body of water separating Krn Peninsula from mainland China) actions. For now, you're still my ally, so i WOuldnt do anything to hurt you.

OOC: I'll wait until 5CN posts something to clear us up. Perhaps the actual hostilities can begin in a different thread, with this one used for OOC talk.

I own Canton, China.

I own Canton and Hong Kong, China.

What? How did that happen?

And I'm not boxing you in; I'm stationing troops in South Dalania in case they are needed for rapid cross-strait (the body of water separating Krn Peninsula from mainland China) actions. For now, you're still my ally, so i WOuldnt do anything to hurt you.

ooc: The only bases up for use would be the ones I loaned you on Cheju-do Island for the campaign against Bonstock...use of other bases isn't permitted since I would prefer not to have large concentrations of foreign troops stationed near the DMZ for fear of provoking my northern neighbor.

That said, station away on Cheju-do.

And we will be maintaining a close watch on the northeastern corner of China (Manchuria) for any hostile movements.

As we speak, two battle fleets based in the Magistrate Islands in the Pacific Ocean have been deployed off of the Chinese coast. In addition, naval and air troop transports have begun to load massive amounts of equipment and supplies to faciliate the invasion of China.

Marimaia offers to stand with the Resistance should action become necessary. Hopefully a peaceful solution could be found beforehand though.

Are you sure this action is wise. You know the person who controls china, could be twice you size.
occ: i'l refer to WW2 in RL
japan attacked, and concored great parts of china, and china was a lot larger than japan.

Are you sure this action is wise. You know the person who controls china, could be twice you size.
occ: i'l refer to WW2 in RL
japan attacked, and concored great parts of china, and china was a lot larger than japan.

The differents is back then Japan was only attacking small groups of Chinese thanks to all the Civil wars in China it was broken up into hundreds of groups of small states and regions.

In light of the protests by EOE, Islandia relaxes its blockade so that its forces are not blocking free shipping; all military shipping is to be monitored heavily, but civilian shipping is to pass free and unhampered. As long as EOE will not trade to either side and stays neutral, they are free to pass through the South China Sea.

Until the actual outbreak of hostilities, normal EOE trade will continue. As a gesture of good faith, no military or military-potential cargoes will be carried to any of the participants. EOE will list cargo manifests on all Dominion shipping in the affected area and the list will be available via the nearest Dominion Embassy for anyone who requests it.

If war breaks out, EOE shipping will continue to trade with non-belligerents in the area, avoiding the South China Sea where possible. Any EOE shipping that must enter the combat zone will be escorted by EOE Naval assets, with the course and cargo manifests made public before the ships leave port.

Any attack on EOE vessels will be considered an act of war. Any belligerent nation who attempts to use neutral EOE shipping as cover for military purposes will be considered an enemy of the Dominion and treated accordingly.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

(ooc:Alright, so we are assuming that tensions are rising in-character and that deployments to the region are under way? Due to how confused this all is I'm still not sure that Dra-pol will be involved when things really get going, but just incase we are..)

While DaKhiem has given absolutely no word before the international community as pertains to growing regional tensions, semi-active forces within the massive People's Army have begun mobilisation.

A large portion of the Republic's more than nine-million army effectives had been largely concerned with engineering tasks in the mountains that divide Dra-pol between east and west. Multiple divisions previously labouring deep within the Republic's closed interior -where no foreigner has tread since the cease-fire with the invading Crusaders- are now in some evidence along the CPRD's borders with South Dalania (especially near the west coast) and China.

Increased border patrols have been laid-on by J-10, FC-1, and S-4 fighters as well as observation aircraft, and the Republic's recently restored Coast Guard has engaged in further anti-shipping missile tests in the Sea of Japan and the Yellow Sea. The latter body of water has again become largely closed to foreign shipping, and vessels in the area are being subjected to increased scrutiny, including searches.


(ooc:and if it ends up occuring in a different reality to Dra-pol's I'll pass it all off as a false alarm to which the paranoid republic over-reacted)

Semi OOC - We shall watch this situation, we are in the Asian region, if the person playing China is in this region we may consider involvement. That is almost certain if they are any ally/trade partner.

Dra-pol is a trading partner of ours and, in light of our previous statement, if her armed forces are attack we may have to give serious consideration to becoming involved.

(..And as such No-Dachi Yo is liable to benefit from Drapoel military resources, should its government express an interest in such (the Republic's serious trade partners are precious few and highly valued, as much as it pains the isolationist republic).)

The Islandian government is warning the government of Ozymandias IV that any moves into coalition territory in the South China Sea is not welcome. As of now, Islandian naval forces are closing off the area in the Spratly Islands to foreign military ships, with a time window of twelve days to set course OUT of the region, and are deeming all craft not of the AA as 'potentially hostile.' After the time period, all craft there will be fired on; we have come too far to allow a Bonstockian or Bonstockian-allied fleet to disrupt our success.

The Republic of Ozymandias IV is conducting military exercises in international waters. In no way should our actions threaten the Islandian government.

We insist upon our rights under international law to exercise where and whenever we chose. In keeping with this philosophy, we shall only exit our exercise area when these exercises are concluded.

Umberto IV
SecInfo
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ozymandias_iv.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92022)
Republic of Ozymandias IV

*bangs head against the wall at some people's stupidity*

(OOC: Guys, I'm doing this for two reasons. A) To have some fun. B) To capture some RL and actual territory to RP from. But I can't do that until I find out who the hell controls China!?! IF YOU CONTROL CHINA, PLEASE POST ANY RELEVANT THREADS THAT MAINTAIN YOUR CLAIMS!!! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SUPPORTING THREADS THAT HELPS SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS, YOU WILL BE IGNORED!!! This means that the nations of East Islandia, ATA, and whoever else claiming parts of China has been ignored until they post evidence of their claims.)

(ooc:Alright, so we are assuming that tensions are rising in-character and that deployments to the region are under way? Due to how confused this all is I'm still not sure that Dra-pol will be involved when things really get going, but just incase we are..)


(ooc:and if it ends up occuring in a different reality to Dra-pol's I'll pass it all off as a false alarm to which the paranoid republic over-reacted)

Islandia cautions Dra-pol that if hostilities do begin and we find them on the wrong side, we will cut off all military aid sent to them, including a planned shipment of advanced composite FSW fighters that Lotus Systems International was to sell at half off prices in a special deal to several allies. Nonetheless, we have utmost faith in our ally...

***
Discussions have arisen within secret think tanks in the Islandian capital concerning to trustworthiness of Dra-pol. While most analysts seem to think that Dra-pol poses no threat and probably a bonus in terms of defense or offense in any way in east Asia, a sizeable percentage have listed their doubts about Dra-pol in case of war.....

*******
Cheju-do Island
South Dalania

The Airbus A3280, acquired from Agrigento several years ago, touched down delicately on the runway. Modified with various communication, command, and intelligence equipment and escorted by two squadrons of fighters, with anotehr squadrons two within half a minutes' distance away, the A3280 served as General Sung's (and the Pacific Islandia Area HQ) mobile command headquarters.

The general stepped off the plane, clad in a dark green spidersilk jumpsuit and followed by several of her female bodyguards from the Pathet Cong Rangers. All around her, activity was at a frenzy pace as reinforcing material and fortifications were piled on to already existing ones. She made her way to the command bunker, and stepped inside, reaching for the secure line to the Dalanian capital.

She asked for General Kang's presence at the base, ostensibly to help coordinate policy should war break out in East Asia. But waht was in mind was far different...

*bangs head against the wall at some people's stupidity*

(OOC: Guys, I'm doing this for two reasons. A) To have some fun. B) To capture some RL and actual territory to RP from. But I can't do that until I find out who the hell controls China!?! IF YOU CONTROL CHINA, PLEASE POST ANY RELEVANT THREADS THAT MAINTAIN YOUR CLAIMS!!! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SUPPORTING THREADS THAT HELPS SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS, YOU WILL BE IGNORED!!! This means that the nations of East Islandia, ATA, and whoever else claiming parts of China has been ignored until they post evidence of their claims.)

Think before you call me stupid, piece of sh*t...

Having fun or not is not the argument here; since you're going to capture some territory, that only goes against the Azn Resistance's charter.. I'm only saying that i have forces in PRC China, SOuth Dalania, Japan, Taiwan, Spratlys and Paracels, Okinawa, and Mainland China; if you dont believe me, look in the Japann war or simply ask one of the other members of the AA (Taiwan, PRC China, Hudecia, Xiaguo, etc).

ANd i'm not sure how you will simply ignore about few hundred thousand Islandian troops posted in and around East Asia, forces RECOGNIZED by various governments of the nations that they are stationed in, and forces that are there to help those nations in various ways, not the least of which is to wage a war against any aggressors, Han Chinese or not, that may decide to provoke them.

(OOC: I did say some people's studipity... Besides, your rant just shows how petty the Azn Resistance has gotten. Now I thank myself that I resigned before it was actually formed... Also, I said you were ignored, unless you provide data that you control these territories and have troops stationed there and just so you know, you don't even know I'm attacking are even attacking, cause my fleets haven't even been deployed, as my first post indicated (it said something to the matter of "will deploy two battle fleets"). And now I remember why I hate roleplaying out modern wars...)

Are you sure this action is wise. You know the person who controls china, could be twice you size.
occ: i'l refer to WW2 in RL
japan attacked, and concored great parts of china, and china was a lot larger than japan.

The differents is back then Japan was only attacking small groups of Chinese thanks to all the Civil wars in China it was broken up into hundreds of groups of small states and regions.

OOC:
And this is different from the current situation (and NS in particular)... How?

OOC: E. Islandia does have troops in the Okinawa, Japan, SPratelys and Parcels, they fought a war to get there. See the threads about Japann, and Bonstockian Wars if they haven't been deleted yet.

As for South Dalania and PRC China, they can vouch for the existence of E. Islandian troops there. As for Mainland China I can not prove that their soldiers exist there (sorry E. Islandia) although their presence there has been recognized by other nations (see the Japann/Bonstockian Wars).

OOC: Doesnt matter much about the "mobilization" thing anyway. The Azn Alliance has just came out of a war in the region with Bonstock so all our forces are on high alert there anyway.

Also, if we are going to continue this, I would appreciate it if we all remained calm and didn't verbally bash each other. That means no name calling, whether its profanity or not it is still verbally abusive.

Moreover, if you want proof that someone occupies some territory then you might be out of luck since if someone conquered the territory and the thread is deleted then... the best way of working it is exactly what you were doing, ssking people to post if they claimed ownership to some territory in China.

You do realize that who ever controls China could annihalate YOU.
:D

Dammit, I wanna join a war :D

Enough bickering and more fighting :wink:

When the ownership of China is finally recognized, I would like to present a deal. I would like to buy the Talkimakan Desert area (area between the Plateu of Tibet (northern end) and the Kunlun Shan (southern end), and the eastern border being the choke point between the two, and the western as the mountains in the west) to control for colonization purposes.
Thank You,
Tex III
President of the Commonwealth of San Texario, of the Kingdom of the Midlands. Member of the Legion of Defense.

another day with conflikts .. :o

I will create a new thread for the actual invasion, but I will only invite those roleplayers that are worthy of participating (as there are from what I understand from a conversation with the Evil Overlord that there are many different claims to China, whether in different eras or whatever). And because I feel that the Azn Resistance should participate, I will contact certain members about the invasion...

This thread is officially over... If you have anything else to say, TG me...

THERE SHALL BE NO BUYING, SELLING, OR COLONIZING OF CHINA!


We will not bargain parts of China, as United China, an United We are!

I have claims of Manchuria, Liaoling Penninsula, and East of Inner Mongolia.
Confirmed by Japann War and approved of all. We even hold Asian Alliance Conferences there.

Xiaguo re-affirm the Asian Alliance Charter and Pledges. States that there shall be NO Imperilaist Conquests within the Asian Continent.
Bargaining of land can be part of Imperialism.

Xiaguo after careful reviewing of the Charter puts the country into Alert of Hostillities. Xiaguo Declares Neutrality toward Five Civilized Nations.

The Government also allows ANY AA alliance member to station their troops in Xiaguo with Terms of number lowered to only 60,000.

_Taiwan is working hard to have THE LEADER of China to participate as requested.

OOC: I really think we should make this invite only.

OOC: I just got a TG back from Omz, he says PRC China will take a look at this. 5CN, when you do start the new thread, could you TG Omz222?

(OOC: This is 5CN's puppet... Sure, it'll probably start in a week or so...)

OOC:Hey, I would like to be in the thread.....lol, thanx

Isochronous supports 5CN in this war. However, we do request that everyone stay away from the Isochron possessions of Macau, Hong Kong and Lantau Island.

Having heard of General Sung's presence at the East Islandian command post, Kang Woo had immediately cut short his meeting with the General Staff, heading south to Cheju-do in a government Learjet. As the aircraft touched down on the tarmac, the tall South Dalanian Overseer General stepped out of the sleek aircraft, proceeded and followed by several South Dalanian army officers in dark green dress uniforms.

The drive from Sang-Taek Air Force Base to the East Islandian command center at Daejeong took a little under an hour. Driving in an armored Land Rover with military escort, Kang Woo was a little apprehensive at the heightened security.

But then again, with a possible war brewing so close to home, the government did not want to risk losing their commanding officer.

Upon reaching the East Islandian post, the general immediately moved past the saluting East Islandian guards into the modern concrete command center. As he searched the room, his eyes lit up as they lit on a familiar face. He smiled to himself; it was great to see her again.

"As stunning as ever General Sung," smiled the officer as he stepped forward.

Sung smiled and bowed slightly. She motioned for the rest of hte staff to leave the room and pulled out a seat for Kang to sit down at.
"Well, it's certainly good to see you, General," she said, grinning like a little girl. "though i have to admit, I did partially concoct this 'business' thing to get you down here."
She handed him a sheaf of classified documents, preliminary assessments of various enemies, schematics on a new possible laser defence system, and numbers and dispositions of Islandian forces on Cheju=do Island.
"I'm sorry I made you feel like a highly placed courier," she whispered to him. "But I wouldnt trust anyone else with this. Besides, you can always use secure fax lines and stay here just in case your government needs you to talk with me, can't you?"

Sung felt a momentary pang of regret, but Premier Chai had assured her before that she fully agreed with her decision, provided of course, that Kang didnt stay more than three or four days. Trouble was, after all, brewing up, and Chai wanted the Dalanian general staff to be ready in case.

The South Dalanian general quickly sorted through the material, mentally noting what was new and what he'd already known. The South Dalanian General Staff had already compiled profiles of various leaders and nations that were suspected to leaning towards the opposition side, but the new troop manifests and the laser defense plans were new ideas. Quickly reading over the documents, the general placed them in an armored briefcase which he quickly handcuffed to his aide's wrist. The aide saluted and then turned around, heading back towards the Learjet which would immediately return to Seoul, handing the crucial information back to the General Staff.

Kang Woo smiled. He was glad that she was here to talk business,but he was also glad to see her personally. Of course business could wait, provided that his headquarters at Sogwipo was equipped with a secure landline and satellite connection to the Army Ministry in Seoul.

"Of course," spoke the general as he stood and offered a hand to the beautiful East Islandian commander. "The communication facility at Sogwipo will be made available to you."

He cleared his throat. "In the meantime, I was just wondering if you'd like to dine with me. I know a good place right off the highway..."

-Seven hours later, Seoul-

A late night session had been called by the cabinet, as the plans for the laser defense system were systematically reviewed by both the prime minister's civillian and military advisors. The design plan and theory had proved satisfactory and without further ado, Acting Prime Minister Han Su Kim had telephoned Premier Chai at her residence, informing the East Islandians that their offer had been accepted.

I will create a new thread for the actual invasion, but I will only invite those roleplayers that are worthy of participating (as there are from what I understand from a conversation with the Evil Overlord that there are many different claims to China, whether in different eras or whatever). And because I feel that the Azn Resistance should participate, I will contact certain members about the invasion...

This thread is officially over... If you have anything else to say, TG me...

BTW, whoever wants to participate in my proposed invasion of China either as a defender or as an attacker, should post here, so I could know who to invite, who to ignore, etc...

OOC: One of my pro-unification Generals will disobey orders and support China.

Defender.

Or ignored, due to technical difficulties and bad blood.

Defender.

Or ignored, due to technical difficulties and bad blood.

:lol:

Defender of Chinese. An Agreement has been passed by the Rebels and the Xiannese Government to halt the Civil War and fight to defend China Mainland.

Hudecia is an ally of several of the nations involved and will be involved in defending.

I'm still not sure.. I want to wait and see what's what and who's who. Normally I wouldn't bother, but the idea of Dra-pol annexing Manchuria just sounds so appealing.. more the occupation than the actual invasion though, I'm not entirely certain I want another massive all out war just now. Dra-pol was in one for the first.. billion of its population growth.

I'm still not sure.. I want to wait and see what's what and who's who. Normally I wouldn't bother, but the idea of Dra-pol annexing Manchuria just sounds so appealing.. more the occupation than the actual invasion though, I'm not entirely certain I want another massive all out war just now. Dra-pol was in one for the first.. billion of its population growth.

Occupy Manchuria!?
Xiaguo is located there and will defend it at all costs. We hope Dra-pol to halt his Imperialistic Idea.

We will aid our Asian Alliance allies if need be, acting as defenders.

Kilean would support Xiaguo with low-interest loans, armed forces training, and arms shipments in the event of a Dra-Pol invasion. If Dra-Pol takes any more agressive action, Kilean's interest in this situation will become more than diplomatic.

Don't make me point out the difference between posts and threads that are in or out of character.. Dra-pol hasn't in all history spoken to half the nations here, or ever mentioned attacking China or anyone else since the Korean War.

<OOC: oops, sorry- Kilean was just doing some general threatening and stick-waving. Consider the statement withdrawn.<OOC>

(Heh, sorry, I didn't mean to sound that sarcastic.. well.. actually I did, but I sort of regret it now :) )

As we said before, we support 5CN's invasion, however we refuse to give support if the hostilities come anywhere near our possessions: Lantau Island, Hong Kong and Macau.