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The Imperial Navy of the United Empire of Colerica is looking for a naval contractor to aid us in constructing a massive battleship. The designs we are currently looking at are a stretched-out Iowa-class version. We're aiming at making this over twelve-hundred feet long, if at all possible. We're open to suggestions.

Regards,

Kircer Danton
Magistrate of Foriegn Affairs

Xevven Jericho
Magistrate of War

I see, we have Four Shipyards, and all but Two are open, leaving Two Open.....um, anyway....

Give us Exact Specs and We'll Show you what Specs we'll place on Her for Betterment of Her Survival.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118505


Check out my Great Lakes Class

Name: CSS Tyrant

Specs:
Length (Overall): 1,202 feet, 0 inches
Waterline Length: 1,180 feet, 0 inches
Maximum Beam: 174 feet, 5 inches

Weight:
Light Ship: 96,360 tons
Full Load: 104,460 tons

Armament:
12 16-inch/50 caliber Guns (Mark 7) (406mm)
4 5-inch/38 caliber DP Guns (Mark 12) (127mm)
2 MK41 VLS (61 cells each, 122 in total)
14 20mm/76 CIWS Anti-Aircraft/Missile
32 BGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
16 RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles

Armor
Main Side Belt 13.1 inches inclined 19 degrees (307mm)
Main Deck Armor 1.5 inches (38mm)
Second Deck Armor 4.75 + 1.25 inches (121mm + 32mm)
Splinter Deck Armor .625 inches (16mm)
Barbette 17.3 to 11.6 inches (439-295 mm)
Turret Face Plate 17.0 + 2.7 inches (432mm + 63mm)
Turret Side 9.5 inches (241mm)
Conning Tower 17.5 inches (444mm)

Machinery
x2 Plasmatic Hydrogen Reactor
x4 Reactor Coolant Titanium Fans
x2 Reactor Fusion/Plasma Coolant
Maximum Speed: 29.0 knots
Nominal Endurance: 18,000 nautical miles
Inboard Screws: Two 17 foot 0 inch (5.182m) five-blade
Outboard Screws: Two 18 foot 3 inch (5.563m) four-blade
Rudders: Two, 340 sq. ft. (31.6 sq. m.) each

Crew:
Officers: 114
Sailors: 1,988

As you can see, we're looking at making this a very large craft. Are your shipyards able to build something this large?

Regards,

Kircer Danton
Magistrate of Foreign Affairs

Xevven Jericho
Magistrate of War

a few suggestions

Dump most of your 5" guns, they aren't really useful

Throw in some more SAM's

Add some VLC's in place of the 5" Guns, shorten the ship (you really don't need it to be that long or that wide,

what you have is essentially my Great Lakes Class minus the Nuclear reactors, with the VLC's you could load either ASROC, Tomahawk or SM-2 missiles into them. Give yourself more flexibility


And finally, you prolly should just use a nuclear powerplant if you want to move this thing. And with those dimensions your looking at probably 100,000+ tonnage.

You could chop its size down, or add more weapons, but it still would be underpowered.

a few suggestions

Dump most of your 5" guns, they aren't really useful

Throw in some more SAM's

Add some VLC's in place of the 5" Guns, shorten the ship (you really don't need it to be that long or that wide,

what you have is essentially my Great Lakes Class minus the Nuclear reactors, with the VLC's you could load either ASROC, Tomahawk or SM-2 missiles into them. Give yourself more flexibility


And finally, you prolly should just use a nuclear powerplant if you want to move this thing. And with those dimensions your looking at probably 100,000+ tonnage.

You could chop its size down, or add more weapons, but it still would be underpowered.

OOC: Okay, thanks for the suggestions. I've trimmed down the size and what not...but what exactly is the advantage of the VLC's?

what you have is essentially my Great Lakes Class minus the Nuclear reactors, with the VLC's you could load either ASROC, Tomahawk or SM-2 missiles into them. Give yourself more flexibility

Vertical Launch Cells

they give you the flexibilty of loading into them several different types of missiles, they are stored beneath the deck so they won't be exposed to enemy fire as much.

The US Navy has switched to VLC's in almost all of their ships, so they can carry more missiles and carry more types of missiles.

OOC: So, they're like Mk41 VLS missile batteries or what? I'm not familar with vertical launch cells...

OOC: So, they're like Mk41 VLS missile batteries or what? I'm not familar with vertical launch cells...

OOC: Same thing, but i have a tendency to switcht the S with a C

sorry :oops:

OOC: Okay, good..you had me confused there a little... :) I'll re-edit the specs of the ship again...thanks again for the suggestions..let me know if you have anymore..

If you allow us to, we shall install Experimental Hydrogen Reactors....let me grab specs to show you:

-Radar:
x1 Microwave Pulse Sensory Radar/Class Four
x1 Microwave Sensory Pulse/Class Two

-Powerplant:
x2 Plasmatic Hydrogen Reactor-HIGHLY Experimental
x4 Reactor Coolant Titanium Fans-HIGHLY Experimental
x2 Reactor Fusion/Plasma Coolant-HIGHLY Experimental

These are from my Bismarck Class Experimental Pocket Battleship, but could easily be placed into this design for better speed and whatnot.

If you allow us to, we shall install Experimental Hydrogen Reactors....let me grab specs to show you:

-Radar:
x1 Microwave Pulse Sensory Radar/Class Four
x1 Microwave Sensory Pulse/Class Two

-Powerplant:
x2 Plasmatic Hydrogen Reactor-HIGHLY Experimental
x4 Reactor Coolant Titanium Fans-HIGHLY Experimental
x2 Reactor Fusion/Plasma Coolant-HIGHLY Experimental

These are from my Bismarck Class Experimental Pocket Battleship, but could easily be placed into this design for better speed and whatnot.

Have these systems had any advanced field testing in their history? We're slightly nervous about placing untested equipment onboard....

With the amount of deck space you have you could fit a LOT of VLS in there. Not to mention I wouldn't be suprised if you actually used a small number of VTOL aircraft, but that would be pushing it.

I'd probably add a good 120+ VLS onto your ships. Not quite as good as an arsenal ship, but thats a hell of a lot of firepower, and then you would be able to defend against air attack better.

oh and if your using Phalynx CIWS i'd dump it, with armored missiles you might want something with a little more power and a possibly a point missile defense system. Like the RAM-116, that would definetly help a bunch.

Indeed, we currently have enough Field Testing to call it EXPERIMENTAL, forgot to change that, sorry.

It's quite Stable, good Power Plant, and runs off Hydrogen Atoms splitting within a Contain Field thats much like a Nuclear Reactor would do, expect more stable in the sense that Heat is dissappated by Fusion or Plasmatic Coolent that circulates.

Not quite too Futuristic, which is why we like testing such ideas.

With the amount of deck space you have you could fit a LOT of VLS in there. Not to mention I wouldn't be suprised if you actually used a small number of VTOL aircraft, but that would be pushing it.

I'd probably add a good 120+ VLS onto your ships. Not quite as good as an arsenal ship, but thats a hell of a lot of firepower, and then you would be able to defend against air attack better.

oh and if your using Phalynx CIWS i'd dump it, with armored missiles you might want something with a little more power and a possibly a point missile defense system. Like the RAM-116, that would definetly help a bunch.

With that many VLS's on deck, would I have to dump some of the biggger guns or not?

With the amount of deck space you have you could fit a LOT of VLS in there. Not to mention I wouldn't be suprised if you actually used a small number of VTOL aircraft, but that would be pushing it.

I'd probably add a good 120+ VLS onto your ships. Not quite as good as an arsenal ship, but thats a hell of a lot of firepower, and then you would be able to defend against air attack better.

oh and if your using Phalynx CIWS i'd dump it, with armored missiles you might want something with a little more power and a possibly a point missile defense system. Like the RAM-116, that would definetly help a bunch.

With that many VLS's on deck, would I have to dump some of the biggger guns or not?

when i think of them i think of total number of missiles. not total number of systems

what you have is good.

Indeed, we currently have enough Field Testing to call it EXPERIMENTAL, forgot to change that, sorry.

It's quite Stable, good Power Plant, and runs off Hydrogen Atoms splitting within a Contain Field thats much like a Nuclear Reactor would do, expect more stable in the sense that Heat is dissappated by Fusion or Plasmatic Coolent that circulates.

Not quite too Futuristic, which is why we like testing such ideas.

It may take a few things within our naval department to presuade the top brass to see the advantages to these systems, but we like what we hear. Incoporate it into the ship.....

Here are the specs for the Main Battleship Class of our Nation, with two version. Pick technology you sih to have for your ship:

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/bismarck_vs_tirpitz/pictures/bismarckdrawing.jpg
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/bismarck_vs_tirpitz/pictures/bismarckabovedrawing.jpg
WWII Era Bismarck Class Battleship Design

NRSS New Bismarck
Experimental Class Pocket Battleship
Normal Version
-Cost:
500 Million Rudans
-Measurement:
Empty: 42, 812 Tons
Full: 55, 480 Tons
-Overall Length:
285 feet
-Overall Width:
148 feet

-Radar:
x1 Microwave Pulse Sensory Radar/Class Four
x1 Microwave Sensory Pulse/Class Two

-Powerplant:
x2 Plasmatic Hydrogen Reactor-Experimental
x4 Reactor Coolant Titanium Fans-Experimental
x2 Reactor Fusion/Plasma Coolant-Experimental
-Range:
200 Days
-Maximum Speed:
38 Knots

-Armament:
x4 190mm Main Twin-Mounted Pressure-Stabilized Deck Turret
x6 120mm Twin-Mounted Pressure-Stabilized Secondary Turret
x18 105mm Twin-Mounted Flak Cannons
x2 Cruise Missile Launchers-Hidden

-Armor:
42 ft. thick Experimental Ionic Lightweight Titanium

-Crew:
110 Officers
2,400 Crewmen

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/bismarck_vs_tirpitz/pictures/tirpitzdrawing.jpg
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/bismarck_vs_tirpitz/pictures/tirpitzabovedrawing.jpg
WWII Era Tirpitz Class Battleship Design

NRSS New Tirpitz
Experimental Class Pocket Battleship
Improved Version
-Cost:
800 Million Rudans
-Measurement:
Empty: 44, 824 Tons
Full: 62, 280 Tons
-Overall Length:
288 feet
-Overall Width:
154 feet

-Radar:
x1 Microwave Pulse Sensory Radar/Class Four
x1 Microwave Sensory Pulse/Class Two

-Powerplant:
x4 Plasmatic Hydrogen Reactor-Experimental
x8 Reactor Coolant Titanium Fans-Experimental
x4 Reactor Fusion/Plasma Coolant-Experimental
-Range:
800 Days
-Maximum Speed:
44 Knots

-Armament:
x4 200mm Main Twin-Mounted Pressure-Stabilized Deck Turret
x6 120mm Twin-Mounted Pressure-Stabilized Secondary Turret
x22 105mm Twin-Mounted Flak Cannons
x4 Cruise Missile Launchers-Hidden

-Armor:
50 ft. thick Experimental Ionic Reinforced Lightweight Titanium

-Crew:
120 Officers
2,800 Crewmen