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International Treaty - Ban on WMDs

Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 08:41
(OOC: I'm not doing this through the UN because it would get no where, at least there is a possiblity of getting several nations signing on to the treaty.)


IC:
The Deomcratic Socialist Union, in the interest in the protection of all life, which is sacred, would like to create a international treaty banning cowardly weapons of mass destruction(currently, our consititution prevent the ANL from having WMDs). While we do understand nations with WMDs have a tactical and defensive advantage, we believe banning these weapons is the right thing to to do.

The terms of the treaty are simple, all nuclear, biological, chemical or other WMDs will be banned in signitory nations. Also, a portion of the money freed up by not having to take care of WMDs should be put into social welfare related programs, not military boosts.

So who's with me?
Crownguard
08-02-2004, 08:45
Make it easy for me now will you? Heh....


Ill take all WMDs you dont want or need anymore, and Ill donate 5 dollars apiece to the Jimmy Fund. What do you say?



Dogbert: "I wish there were world peace, peace on earth.."

Dilbert: "Thats a very noble aspiration Dogbert..." *walks away*

Dogbert: "Then I could conquer this whole stupid planet with a butterknife..."
Anarresa
08-02-2004, 08:46
Since Anarresa has no NBC program we see no reason why not to sign this treaty.
Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 08:46
I don't have any WMDs. Never have, never will.
Crownguard
08-02-2004, 08:48
I don't have any WMDs. Never have, never will.

They make great paperweights
08-02-2004, 08:50
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Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 08:50
They make great paperweights

OOC: Now that's funny. I never looked at them that way.

IC:
We are glad to see Anarresa is supportive of this treaty.

(OOC (again): I will type up a formal treaty as soon as I can)
08-02-2004, 08:55
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Bailong
08-02-2004, 08:57
Bailong is in full supportt of your treaty.
Iuthia
08-02-2004, 08:58
I'll take all WMDs you dont want or need anymore, and Ill donate 5 dollars apiece to the Jimmy Fund.

Or we could dismantle our bombs, use the Uranium for our Nuclear Reactors and use the ICBM for the metals or even redesign them for space exploration.

Iuthia has already destroyed all our Nuclear Weapons, though we are hardly defenceless... we have our NAFDA system for protection from various ballistic weapons and a very large military for the rest...

We just don't feel Nuclear Weapons are of any use and they only further pollute our land. So we'll sign for show more then anything.
Hattia
08-02-2004, 08:59
Hattia only has stockpiles of nuclear, not biological or chemical weapons. We see a need for them, our constitution prevents any such weapons from being used aggressively (except for our I.G.N.O.R.E missiles). We mainly keep them as a deterrent to much larger nations. (You know who I am talking about) And even if we were invaded, we would use them only as a last resort.
Crownguard
08-02-2004, 08:59
I'll take all WMDs you dont want or need anymore, and Ill donate 5 dollars apiece to the Jimmy Fund.

Or we could dismantle our bombs, use the Uranium for our Nuclear Reactors and use the ICBM for the metals or even redesign them for space exploration.

Iuthia has already destroyed all our Nuclear Weapons, though we are hardly defenceless... we have our NAFDA system for protection from various ballistic weapons and a very large military for the rest...

We just don't feel Nuclear Weapons are of any use and they only further pollute our land. So we'll sign for show more then anything.

I refer you back to the Paperweight Solution.
Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 09:00
Now let me ask you a question. Say someone luanches nukes at your country and kills all your soldiers and most of your populace. Now if you dont have nukes your screwed or would you rather be able to nuke his ass right back so he cant invade.

Fortinatly, the ANL has a missile defense system in place that will take care of some missles in the event the ANL is attacked. However, granted, the system is not 100% accurate.

The ultimate defense is that the ANL never particpate in wars and we have never gave anybody any reason for attacking the country, with conventional weapons or WMDs.
Crownguard
08-02-2004, 09:01
TO be utterly honest...we never use nukes anyways...we prefer fighting with honor. Nukes are only a last line of defense, where "scorched earth" means exactly that...the target country invading out land will cease to exist, we will fire a few on an invading army and vaporize part of the country,a nd the people will flee to prebuilt underground complexes. I would sign this, because despite my nature, Crownguard is fairly nice and understanding, but it would leave us dangerously weak.
Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 09:02
Or we could dismantle our bombs, use the Uranium for our Nuclear Reactors and use the ICBM for the metals or even redesign them for space exploration.

Iuthia has already destroyed all our Nuclear Weapons, though we are hardly defenceless... we have our NAFDA system for protection from various ballistic weapons and a very large military for the rest...

We just don't feel Nuclear Weapons are of any use and they only further pollute our land. So we'll sign for show more then anything.

Thank you for your support. Your idea of dismatnlement is great and will be incorporated into the final treaty. That might be more cost effective in the end after all.
Kanuckistan
08-02-2004, 09:02
Now let me ask you a question. Say someone luanches nukes at your country and kills all your soldiers and most of your populace. Now if you dont have nukes your screwed or would you rather be able to nuke his ass right back so he cant invade.

Buy an intigrated, multi-tiered anti-missile defence net from a future-tech nation who's player knows what they're talking about, then get a bunch of allies, and you should be fine.
Aztec National League
08-02-2004, 09:05
Bailong is in full supportt of your treaty.

I am glad to see a young nation supporting this treaty. This makes you nation look very good considering that so many new nations are warmongering.
Iuthia
08-02-2004, 09:08
Now let me ask you a question. Say someone luanches nukes at your country and kills all your soldiers and most of your populace. Now if you dont have nukes your screwed or would you rather be able to nuke his ass right back so he cant invade.

Well, if I didn't have my NAFDA system (about 80-90% accurate I'm afriad) we would be a radioactive crator and no one wants to invade a radioactive crator now would they?

However, with that said, Iuthia can absorb most nuclear attacks and still have well over 90% of our army in tact. Seeing as our nations is very strong and militarily potent we would then move on to annex said nation...

Of course, that would only happen if my allies didn't nuke them into the ground first, unlike many nations, Iuthia's allies are pretty much the same size as me and they don't have any problems with Nuclear Weapons...

So fear not young one, I need not my atom bomb.
Anarresa
08-02-2004, 09:10
Though we dont use nuclear weapons, we do have an arsenal of large area destruction weapons such as Fuel Air Weapons and Heavy Ordinance such as MOABs. Though heavier these are better than nukes because they're clean. You don't need nuclear weapons to blow alot up, theres alot of other stuff out there
Elves Security Forces
08-02-2004, 09:31
Although we don't house any of these weapons , we will abide by this treaty while it suits us.
Saipac
08-02-2004, 17:07
We will join this treaty. We are new nation and we are completely against WMD's.
Penguisiana
08-02-2004, 17:11
I don't hink this is a good idea. Because then the pople with nukes will nuke you and there is nothing you can do about it
Saipac
08-02-2004, 18:03
That is agood point. We will reconsider our decision.
08-02-2004, 18:20
The Nation of Itakitall signs your treaty in hopes that it will bring back the beauty of tactical combat lost in the creation of the atomic bomb. We do not sign it as a pacifistic nation, but as one that would prefer to use the more elegant art of strategy to destroy an opponent. It is not that we do not want these weapons, we merely feel that they are excessive, and that it is far better to totally dominate and occupy an enemy nation than to wipe it out.

Besides, they are a waste of money. Using it on your own territory is plain stupid, and using it on the enemy means retaliation in kind. So they cannot be used. Get rid of them by all means.

Aeon the 221st
Chairman of the Board
No-Dachi Yo
08-02-2004, 18:31
We would be interested in signing this treaty, our new government has recently announce plans for the destruction of our small chemical stockpile (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122178&highlight=), so we are happy to become signitories.

Prime Minister Kobe
08-02-2004, 18:45
The United States of Zingowango says: Hell no! I might need this babies some day ... -strokes thermo-nuclear hyper-bombs-
Anarresa
10-02-2004, 04:52
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imported_Everonia
10-02-2004, 04:53
Such a sad attempt at saving the world from WMD's...
Ozymandias IV
10-02-2004, 14:02
The Republic of Ozymandias IV supports this proposal.

- Merek III
SecState