NationStates Jolt Archive


Should WMD Be Used?

Largent
07-02-2004, 22:39
please state why not if that is your choice. May we remind you no civilians will be targeted or hit.
Trixia
07-02-2004, 22:41
If needs must.
Trixia
07-02-2004, 22:41
If needs must.
07-02-2004, 22:41
Use knockout gas. If what appears to be a military target is really a hostage camp, you're looking down the throat of widespread rebellion.
07-02-2004, 22:41
The environment may be scarred for a long time . . . It depends what WMDs you are planning on using. If no civilians will be harmed and there is NO other way, then it may be alright . . .
Army of Lovers
07-02-2004, 22:42
There is no thing as a "small" weapon of MASS destruction.
Crossman
07-02-2004, 22:51
Now, I voted yes, but I meant it in the sense of yes you should ONLY if ABSOLUTELY NEEDED!!! If the rebels pose that big of a threat to you, then you should, but watch what you use. It makes no sense to crack a walnut with a sledge hammer...

-Emperor Crossman
Layarteb
07-02-2004, 22:56
Our policy, officially, is to use WMD when used against us.
The Evil Overlord
07-02-2004, 22:57
<OOC>
Personally, I think the use of WMD of any sort is a sure sign of poor roleplaying ability- most of the time.

There are a few possible pitfalls to the frequent use of WMD you ought to consider:

- Turning to WMD early and often will make everyone around you fairly sure that you're a lunatic. They will therefore automatically assume that any potential conflict will involve WMD strikes by your forces and plan accordingly. Your enemies will therefore toss all of their war scenarios out the airlock and immediately go to the Massive Overkill First Strike option in their warplans.

- Frequent use of WMD will make the territory you're supposedly fighting over as useless for living space as RL Mars. Depending on which way the wind is blowing, it would probably have a detrimental effect on your country as well.

- How are you going to prevent civilian casualties? Using WMD pretty much guarantees that a lot of people other than your targets are going to be killed off as well. I did note that your initial post said that civilians would not be targeted, but killing off a few hundred thousand innocent bystanders is not well thought of in diplomatic circles.

- Relying on WMD can be taken as a sign of weakness. If you blow up a city every time you feel threatened, most people will assume that the rest of your military is composed of creampuffs with no combat ability and less combat experience.

</OOC>

His Omniferocity dislike the trend toward frequent and early use of any Weapons of Mass Destruction. It is the policy of the Dominion that the use of WMD should be actively discouraged in almost all circumstances. Since your nation's existence does not appeared to be threatened by your enemy, His Omniferocity does not feel that the use of WMD is warranted.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs
Largent
07-02-2004, 22:57
just to clear this up, we would only use certain gasses and maybe nukes with a payload at about 1mt but nothing huge. Also, this would only be if the rebellion got too large. Already we have 3 nations against us and 2 with us.
Largent
07-02-2004, 23:00
<OOC>
Personally, I think the use of WMD of any sort is a sure sign of poor roleplaying ability- most of the time.

There are a few possible pitfalls to the frequent use of WMD you ought to consider:

- Turning to WMD early and often will make everyone around you fairly sure that you're a lunatic. They will therefore automatically assume that any potential conflict will involve WMD strikes by your forces and plan accordingly. Your enemies will therefore toss all of their war scenarios out the airlock and immediately go to the Massive Overkill First Strike option in their warplans.

- Frequent use of WMD will make the territory you're supposedly fighting over as useless for living space as RL Mars. Depending on which way the wind is blowing, it would probably have a detrimental effect on your country as well.

- How are you going to prevent civilian casualties? Using WMD pretty much guarantees that a lot of people other than your targets are going to be killed off as well. I did note that your initial post said that civilians would not be targeted, but killing off a few hundred thousand innocent bystanders is not well thought of in diplomatic circles.

- Relying on WMD can be taken as a sign of weakness. If you blow up a city every time you feel threatened, most people will assume that the rest of your military is composed of creampuffs with no combat ability and less combat experience.

</OOC>

His Omniferocity dislike the trend toward frequent and early use of any Weapons of Mass Destruction. It is the policy of the Dominion that the use of WMD should be actively discouraged in almost all circumstances. Since your nation's existence does not appeared to be threatened by your enemy, His Omniferocity does not feel that the use of WMD is warranted.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

we see your points and assure you they will be used wisely if at all. Also, I'm a good RPer :cry:
07-02-2004, 23:01
Our WMD policy is to use WMD's only as a last and final resort or if strictly ABSOLUTELY NEEDED!!! You don't go stting off nukes in well populated areas that are next to the target. If they are. You could just souround and massacre the enemy with conventional weapons.
The Evil Overlord
07-02-2004, 23:06
just to clear this up, we would only use certain gasses and maybe nukes with a payload at about 1mt but nothing huge. Also, this would only be if the rebellion got too large. Already we have 3 nations against us and 2 with us.

<OOC>
You really ought to ask yourself what the objective of your WMD strike is supposed to be. If you plan on anyone being able to live there within the next few centuries, you probably ought to re-think this idea.


A 1 Megaton warhead is huge by anyone's definition. That is more than sixty times the yield of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. There is no practical way to prevent thousands of non-combatant casualties with such a weapon.
Largent
07-02-2004, 23:07
FOR THE LAST TIME THESE WILL ABSOLUTLEY NOT BE CIVILIAN TARGETS OR ANYTHING NEAR CIVILIAN TARGETS
07-02-2004, 23:11
Certain gasses? Read about what different types of gasses do to humans. It's not pretty. As for the tonnage of your little nuke, I hope 1 mt means milli-ton because if otherwise you're insane.

To put it in perpective: 1 megaton = 1,000,000 tones of TNT. Approximate yield of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs was around 20,000 tons. This is a lot more powerful. Talk about ridiculous
The Evil Overlord
07-02-2004, 23:12
Bloody stupid forums!

Apologies for the double post
07-02-2004, 23:13
Certain gasses? Read about what different types of gasses do to humans. It's not pretty. As for the tonnage of your little nuke, I hope 1 mt means milli-ton because if otherwise you're insane.

To put it in perpective: 1 megaton = 1,000,000 tones of TNT. Approximate yield of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs was around 20,000 tons. This is a lot more powerful. Talk about ridiculous.