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Submersible Carrier enters service

New Empire
07-02-2004, 03:02
After 2 years of sea trials and tests, the Corinth Dleroes Aircraft/SubCraft carrier has entered service. Designated CVSN-91, the Dleroes will lead the way in New Empirian naval conflict.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/United_States/US_CVN-87_Ticonderoga_Carrier-2-small.gif
Size and Capacity-
The CVSN-91 uses a series of abseloutely massive ballast tanks to control depth manuvers. Those were only one of the technical problems faced by the design team. The CVSN-91 uses two 55 meter long flight decks, with electromagnetic catapults to save runway space. Six elevators are placed in the center of the main deck areas to save space for the huge MHD system that propells the sub up to 30 knots. small thrusters, or azipods, can direct the motion of the sub during extreme manuvers. The CVSN-91 has room for 200 fighter sized air and subcraft, usually split betwen the two. The CVSN-91 has the unique ability to house larger subcraft or smaller subs, allowing it to house the 30 ton SuperMantas or midget subs common in the New Empire Oceanic Territories.
Defensive Systems
An Adejaani Sea Sting railgun systems gives the Dleroes access to 7 Four tubed 20mm railgun turrets firing supercavitating rounds. The Sea Sting is linked with a MkXXVI NAI Computer Combat Network, allowing it to engage torpedo, missiles, even other craft. For surface operations where swarms of missiles are commonplace, 7 New Empirian manufactured 20mm HyVeloc guns are used to quickly sweep the skies. Four forward and four rear facing 660mm torpedo tubes give the Dleroes a subsurface punch, along with a 10 cell VLS system. A Kelanis manufactured SILENT-2 provides acoustic masking at speeds of 20 knots or under, making it the "Athena" for sonar, and heavily scatters and distorts it at speeds higher than 20 knots. Kelanis also contributed his Doberman anti-foreign object systems, which were modified to launch nets laced with explosive charges as a last ditch defense. A New Empirian "Wetball" painted hull, similar to the American "Ironball" system, heavily diffuses any radar signals. A naval version of Athena is also used on the CVSN-91. Finally, a sound and vibration absorbent gel is availible to the ship. The chemicals necessary are squirted over the hall, and a low electric charge is run through them, turning them into a gel that absorbs vibration and sound. Other soundproof materials are used around the flight bays to reduce noise going out.
Cost-15 billion per ship. NOTE TO MORON N00BS-I AM NOT SELLING IT TO YOU UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE APTO OR NAIA. IF YOU WIRE MONEY, I WILL KEEP IT AND IGNORE YOUR ORDER.
Other Corinth Dleroes class ships-
-CVSN-92 Kesaru (90% complete)
-CVSN-93 (Unknown) (Planned)
Farfetched prospect
07-02-2004, 03:04
Very original concept.....one problem, incase some dumbass forgets to close the hangerbay you lose a 30 bilion ship..... :?
New Empire
07-02-2004, 03:15
OOC-Actually, the ship's computer flight control systems won't let the sub dive if the wetbays for watercraft aren't sealed.
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 03:22
What are the prospects on selling these ofr production?
Setian-Sebeceans
07-02-2004, 03:26
Even though I'm a space nation, I wouldn't mind buying a few for our water world colonies.
HigeMaru
07-02-2004, 03:29
Yo ho ho my nation would like to start off our military with a flagship like that.
07-02-2004, 03:34
The Most Serene Republic of Jeff Shaver, would cordially show interest in purchasing and funding several of these.
Farfetched prospect
07-02-2004, 03:37
Im pretty sure that the 2 nations above me can't support a ship like this....hell even I can't support something like this
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 03:45
Im pretty sure that the 2 nations above me can't support a ship like this....hell even I can't support something like thisHopefulyl I can :) Heck considering my last GDP calc, I could support quite a few.

Population: 412,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $10,300,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,552,600,000,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 4.42%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $455,260,000,000

Logistically speaking though, for my current size, I htink Three of these is all I want or need.
Farfetched prospect
07-02-2004, 03:47
Im pretty sure that the 2 nations above me can't support a ship like this....hell even I can't support something like thisHopefulyl I can :) Heck considering my last GDP calc, I could support quite a few.

Population: 412,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $10,300,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,552,600,000,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 4.42%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $455,260,000,000

Logistically speaking though, for my current size, I htink Three of these is all I want or need.

I keep on forgetting where i can calculate this....could you give me a link?
Iuthia
07-02-2004, 03:48
[Secret Communication between Iuthia and New Empire]

Well, Iuthia has displayed interest in this design, though we are unsure about your own interest in producing this vessal for us (at our cost of course)...

As would like to know if you are still willing to produce this vessal for the Iuthian fleet using our own resources and funding as well as a bonus for yourselves...

This was something we discussed during development, though we were unsure if anything has changed since that time.


Meanwhile we would advise against selling anything to Setian-Sebeceans, they are still on our Black List for their homaphobia and will remain so until we have seen a significant change in their character. Of course, you are perfectly capable of judging for yourself, we just feel that a warning is customary for an ally.

Thanks for listening, regardless of your choices,

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Lost Hills
07-02-2004, 03:53
Anymore stats you could give us?
Adejaani
07-02-2004, 04:02
OOC: Tag. I've got Prod Rights already considering I helped. :wink:
Bariloche
07-02-2004, 04:03
OOC:
Oh my... I should have though of this. Don't be angry if I copy the idea, a lot of people will some time or the other and you should be proud to be the original creator of this wonder. d_ :D _b Keep up the good work!
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 04:07
I keep on forgetting where i can calculate this....could you give me a link? Ah yess.. well it seems the orginal site has died, the only way to do it now is kind a bastardized approach... what you have to do is go here

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Crossroads%20Inc&defenseprovided=1&defense=10&militarybudget=1

then change my name for your nations name.. and adjust your spending (the '10' is military budget)
Sambizie
07-02-2004, 04:38
Very nice indeed New Empire. The Sambizie are proud to see yet another fine accomplishment by the USNE. We would like to secure an order for two (2) of these "Sub Carriers". There is no real rush and as always, the money will be wired in advance. Again, a very fine job.

Respectfully,
M. Uganda
CEO/Aero-Tech/IVA Industries
-APTO-
-NATO-
-NAIA-
-UTP-
-TFA-
-LFW-
07-02-2004, 04:39
OOC:

Hey, this is Nodea Rudav in one of my Puppet Nations, one which will make all know its a World War II Tech Nation in a Bit.

However, I would like to personally ask, in Out Of Character as Nodea Rudav, that the bill be paid for one of your carriers to be send to the United Socialist States of Nodea Rudav.

-God Bless
New Empire
07-02-2004, 14:16
OOC-Hooo boy. I don't think I should have put the price tag down, this badass boat (Notice I'm calling it a boat. It's a sub. They call the damn things boats.), was never really meant to sell.
IC-
Crossroads-Well, pretty slim if you're outside the APTO or NAIA. Maybe when I'm done pumping these guys out, I'll start handing them out... There is a chance the rights to CVSN-93 when it's completed will be auctioned, but not likely.
S-S-Ah, no. Firstly, there is no goddamn way in hell this thing will ever fit on a surface to space lifter. Also, We've seen your antics, being a psychotic homophobe. So no.
Hige Maru-Any tiny nation that talks to us like that is not getting a submersible carrier. Go back to playing with your toy boats in the bathtub now.
Jeff Shaver-Not happening, you guys couldn't afford it.
[Iuthia]
[Encrypt Datapulse]
[Beale Page 21 1984]
While we fully intend to provide these to APTO and NAIA members, there is the slight problem of space. Dock Manufactories and Shipyards are currently full at the moment, producing these carriers and the Gewehrston class Attack Sub. You have the option of purchasing the rights of the Corinth Dleroes Class at 60 Billion if you do not wish to wait.
[End]
Lost Hills-Further statistics involving the computer networks and locations of weapons storage areas are classified. OOC-Not necessary for RP, so I don't release them)
Sambizie-
Your order will begin soon, as an APTO member you get first priority on building. For 60 Billion, your ships will be built. The designations of CVSN-93 and CVSN-94 will be Sambizie, and will have the name of your choice. Estimated build time-3 years. Should you wish to purchase the production rights at the same price, that option will be availible.
OOC-Nodea Rudav
Well, again, I'm not sure. If Iuthia backs out of getting prod rights, you get a shot at CVSN-95 or CVSN-96. Or you can get the prod rights.
Lapse
07-02-2004, 16:01
ok, coul;d i purchase 20 of these plus the cost of production rights.

total = $300 billion +prod rights
New Empire
07-02-2004, 16:04
Ah, no. No. No. No.

This isn't a storefront where you can order obscene amounts of equipment.
Iuthia
07-02-2004, 17:12
[Encrypted reply to New Empire]

Very well, we will buy the production rights for this technology at the recomended price of $60 Billion (USD), paid over a period of 10 years.

So here is your first installment of $6 Billion (USD) along with this communication...

[code:1:74970cdc77]>> Transfering first installment to "New Empire"...

>> Transfer complete, $6'000'000'000 (USD) deposited.

>> Sending statement of transfer...[/code:1:74970cdc77]

Thanks,

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Iuthia
07-02-2004, 17:21
OOC: Just to point out to those who will inevitably try and buy these vessals, this is not a store front thread.

New Empire has developed this vessal for his own use and will produce his units more or less for himself, maybe others if the moneys good and he doesn't need any more... it takes alot of effort to build these and he needs big dock yards, so he can only build so many at any one time...

In other words, this isn't the sort of place where everyone comes in and says:

"I'll have 100 space ships"

"Sure, I've instantly made then and sent them to you as fast as you can send me the money because I don't care for actual building times or production limits..."

Respect these limitations, I hardly buy anything cause I hate store front threads...
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 18:05
From the desk of the Lord High CEO

I wish to express my Thanks to New Empier for considering my Nations request from some of these fine ships, even if the answere was No. Our nation, like yours, knows how much of a pain it can be for people to ask you to magically create a Ship or product. My nation recently unvield a Massive ship sized Land tank, I spefically said only 3 of these could be bought at a time and then they would have to wait a week (Real time) for deliverly. This did not stop one nation asking for 100!

SO, I comend New Empire for sticking to Realism.
Sambizie
07-02-2004, 18:34
Encrypted:
Secured: APTO Freq. Alpha-Zulu-Beta-9
TO:USNE Command
From: Sambizie Command

Thank you, it has always been a pleasure doing business with you. We would be interested in the "production" rights for this vessel. I have somewhat of an offer in addition:

The Sambizie would like to "offset" some of the cost if we can. Since our Naval Yards are all but "empty", (we are currently NOT manufacturing Naval Vessels), we would like to offer you two (2) Drydocks for the building process. In addition, we have alotted 2 Docks for cargo at the Civilian Yards, (3 miles downcoast from the Naval Yards). We are willing to "rent" these slips or allow usage to reduce the price. However, you would have to ship in the material and staff. However, the decession is yours...if you would like to discuss it in greater detail, we can discuss it at the AP forum. Again, thank you..

*wires initial payment: $12 Billion*

Respectfully,
Mwto'ar
07-02-2004, 18:37
I personally don't like thsi idea..... one nuclear torpedo....bamm
Kalmykhia
07-02-2004, 19:05
I personally don't like thsi idea..... one nuclear torpedo....bamm
Unlike your super-battleships then? This craft has some pretty nifty defence systems, so I don't think a nuclear torpedo is going to hit it too often. Plus nuclear torpedoes are... well, nuclear, and therefore using them will be quite risky. Not to mention bad RP in most cases.
New Empire, congratulations on this. A new idea, like I mentioned before. I thought this had died, but it seems I was wrong. I am planning to develop my own submersible carrier (the one I posted to your dev thread before) and I'm wondering if this would be OK with you.
Iuthia
07-02-2004, 19:09
I personally don't like thsi idea..... one nuclear torpedo....bamm

*Slams a "Idiot" tag on Lima Beens head*

OOC: Such an attack is not only increadably bad for the environment, but would also be seen by Iuthia as a Nuclear Attack, which would result in Mutually Assured Destruction against your nation.

Nuclear Weapons are a good way of being turned into glass, again.
Crossman
07-02-2004, 19:28
You said that for members of those alliances it was $60billion for production rights? Well the Holy Empire of Crossman is not a member but we would be interested in purchasing the production rights. Since we are not a member, would you accept something to the tune of $95billion?
I am willing to transfer $20billion immediately.
Please let me know (OOC: possibly through TG, the forums haven't been running well for me lately)

-Lord Tarkin, Secretary of Defense, Holy Empire of Crossman
New Empire
07-02-2004, 19:34
I personally don't like thsi idea..... one nuclear torpedo....bamm
OOC-Says Lima beens, master of battleships that are so large they sink in 2 foot swells.

It works the same way with normal carriers, except they're more vulnerable to air attacks. Also, I assume you didn't read about the Adejaani Sea Sting anti-torp railguns, did you?
IC-Kalmykhia, it is perfectly fine with us.

Lord Tarkin, your offer is acceptable. Encrypted disks are being sent along with an email to a secure address with the codes.
Lashuga
07-02-2004, 19:41
I will take one

15 Billion Dollars wired
New Empire
07-02-2004, 19:57
To-Sambizie Command
Your offer has been deemed acceptable for production. We will begin the shipping of production rights immediately.
-
Lashuga-No. No. No. I do NOT sell the ships outside the alliances I have mentioned. If one of you does this again, I am keeping your money and not building anything. You have been warned.
07-02-2004, 20:09
New Empire, do you know of Robotech? Sounds like a ship from that, with a cooler look.
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 20:16
I will take one

15 Billion Dollars wired Dude, did we not just get finished talking about people asking for ships to be magical produced?
New Empire
07-02-2004, 20:41
New Empire, do you know of Robotech? Sounds like a ship from that, with a cooler look.
Yeah, I've heard of it. Didn't know they had submersible carrier.
07-02-2004, 20:43
New Empire, do you know of Robotech? Sounds like a ship from that, with a cooler look.
Yeah, I've heard of it. Didn't know they had submersible carrier.

Yup, they did. It was metioned in the show a couple of times, and in RP game a lot. I can't remember the name. Yours is cooler though.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:41
New Empire, do you know of Robotech? Sounds like a ship from that, with a cooler look.
Yeah, I've heard of it. Didn't know they had submersible carrier.

Yup, they did. It was metioned in the show a couple of times, and in RP game a lot. I can't remember the name. Yours is cooler though.
Hmm... I'll have to look it up.
Oh, and the drawing isn't mine, if you were thinking that.
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 21:41
Even though there may be no straight edges on that fella, I bet it sounds like a whale orgy underwater..... For those of you who haven't heard a whale orgy, its loud. O_o :roll:
UnitedSovietRepublic
07-02-2004, 21:43
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Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 21:46
By the by, what sub did you use as a base?
07-02-2004, 21:46
Im pretty sure that the 2 nations above me can't support a ship like this....hell even I can't support something like thisHopefulyl I can :) Heck considering my last GDP calc, I could support quite a few.

Population: 412,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $10,300,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,552,600,000,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 4.42%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $455,260,000,000

Logistically speaking though, for my current size, I htink Three of these is all I want or need.

Yo do you know the URL for this GDP Calculater? It would be great if you did because I never checked my money status for a while now. Anyway I bet I could support just 1 or 2 of these carriers. My econemy is booming. It rates äll consuming" which means i have a ton of money. Can you sell me just 2?
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:47
OOC-Hey, you didn't invent the picture, and I made the stats, so go screw yourself.
Communist Rule-Note that there is no propulsion noise. None. Nada. MHD.
Also, the vibration absorbent hull plating and sound scatter gel, along with the SILENT-2 system means It'll run as quietly as a Seawolf at 20 knots.
07-02-2004, 21:48
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:49
Im pretty sure that the 2 nations above me can't support a ship like this....hell even I can't support something like thisHopefulyl I can :) Heck considering my last GDP calc, I could support quite a few.

Population: 412,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $10,300,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,552,600,000,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 4.42%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $455,260,000,000

Logistically speaking though, for my current size, I htink Three of these is all I want or need.

Yo do you know the URL for this GDP Calculater? It would be great if you did because I never checked my money status for a while now. Anyway I bet I could support just 1 or 2 of these carriers. My econemy is booming. It rates äll consuming" which means i have a ton of money. Can you sell me just 2?
NO! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT! Unless you're an APTO or NAIA member, I don't have time to build ships for you. Building ships is expensive, and takes time. You do not just pull a mulitbillion dollar weapon out of your ass and send it to random people who don't need them anyway.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:49
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*
I warned you. I'm keeping the money, but I won't build anything.
Dumbass.
07-02-2004, 21:52
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*

oh sorry. Please forgive me.
07-02-2004, 21:52
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*

oh sorry. Please forgive me.
07-02-2004, 21:52
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*

oh sorry. Please forgive me.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:53
I forgive you. But I'm keeping the money.
07-02-2004, 21:54
Wait.Actually I can spportmany of thses carriers. I will take an intitail amount of 4 of these Super Carriers. Money will be wired now.

*money wired*
I warned you. I'm keeping the money, but I won't build anything.
Dumbass.

U idiot! That money is like 2 bucks to me! I have more than you can count. Just check my econemy. Arsehole. :P
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 21:56
OOC-Hey, you didn't invent the picture, and I made the stats, so go screw yourself.
Communist Rule-Note that there is no propulsion noise. None. Nada. MHD.
Also, the vibration absorbent hull plating and sound scatter gel, along with the SILENT-2 system means It'll run as quietly as a Seawolf at 20 knots.

If you actually read what I said....I was mainly talking about the way shape of it. Water streaming over those surfaces would make noises. Granted, its not the same as having a solid vertical wall and have water go against it, but there are many surfaces on it which would make noise. Think of a car in a windtunnel. There's no moving air directly behind it. Then picture the air being replaced with water. There would essentially be a big frothing water pool behind the car.

The same applies to your design in some places. And what sub did you use as a basis for this?
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:57
How is that stupid for me? It means I get free money because someone didn't read the thread. There was a clearly stated warning, so don't complain. And if you have more than I can count, then with my economy, I could buy your nation and turn it into a rest stop.
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 21:58
And I would take a shit there if I was on vacation......And graffiti it.
Setian-Sebeceans
07-02-2004, 21:58
[Communique: New Empire and Iuthia]

You have made a foolish action, and will pay, a full trade embargo is now against you.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 21:59
OOC-Hey, you didn't invent the picture, and I made the stats, so go screw yourself.
Communist Rule-Note that there is no propulsion noise. None. Nada. MHD.
Also, the vibration absorbent hull plating and sound scatter gel, along with the SILENT-2 system means It'll run as quietly as a Seawolf at 20 knots.

If you actually read what I said....I was mainly talking about the way shape of it. Water streaming over those surfaces would make noises. Granted, its not the same as having a solid vertical wall and have water go against it, but there are many surfaces on it which would make noise. Think of a car in a windtunnel. There's no moving air directly behind it. Then picture the air being replaced with water. There would essentially be a big frothing water pool behind the car.

The same applies to your design in some places. And what sub did you use as a basis for this?
OOC-The design of the hull and materials used does have some vents and such to angle water away from the deck. See those holes under the forward deck-those are the openings for the MHD. It basically sucks the water in. I don't really think there is a sub that matches this one, so no, I can't answer your question.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 22:02
[Communique: New Empire and Iuthia]

You have made a foolish action, and will pay, a full trade embargo is now against you.
I have never traded with you. Ever. So I don't think I'm gonna give a crap. Besides, with most of your UberTech, I'd probably just ignore you anyway.
OOC-Idiot. I won't trade with him, so he decides as "punishment" to not trade with me.
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 22:03
I meant graphically wise. I'm guessing you took a sub and drew a carrier around it? In that case, what sub?

OOC: Yep. Happens all the time..
New Empire
07-02-2004, 22:05
I meant graphically wise. I'm guessing you took a sub and drew a carrier around it? In that case, what sub?

OOC: Yep. Happens all the time..
I didn't draw it. So I have no idea.
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 22:06
Ah, where'd you get it from?
OOC: I hate idiots like him...
New Empire
07-02-2004, 22:10
Ah, where'd you get it from?
OOC: I hate idiots like him...
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles.htm
Trust me, my version is a hell of a lot quieter than what's described as the American "Ticonderoga" submersible carrier.
Communist Rule
07-02-2004, 22:15
Wow, that Kitsune guy had his work cut out....Damn!Sebastian is future-tech, by the way. No worries.
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 22:21
Frm the Desk of the Lord High CEO

Dearest New Empire, How exactly does one go about joining your Alliance? I am a Nea-Future tech nation and have been looking to join up with a Nice Alliance for a while.
Setian-Sebeceans
07-02-2004, 22:25
New Empire, my response to you-

Ecliptia Decides to destroy homosexual colony (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2706704#2706704)
New Empire
07-02-2004, 22:28
The Allied Powers is a reigonal alliance, home to Pantera, New Genoa, Imitora, Crimmond, Automagfreek, and many other nations. To join, telegram New Genoa.
NAIA (Nations Against Imperialism Association) is an alliance against invasions of other nations for territory, resources, etc. Empires are welcome as long as they don't conquer others to expand them. To join, contact Iuthia or New Genoa (NG recently left as President, and then came back, but telegram both to be sure.)
While joining these alliances doesn't mean I'll start building ships right now, it does mean you get a shot at the next availible CVSN.
New Empire
07-02-2004, 22:31
New Empire, my response to you-

Ecliptia Decides to destroy homosexual colony (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2706704#2706704)
Excellent! By not selling to SS, I can get him to waste his time killing his own people. Also, I ignore ubertech (FTL ships and such), so :P.
Oh and one more thing, even if you weren't a loser who creates homosexual colonies and then killing them for the express purpose of trying to irk people, I wouldn't sell you these anyway. You know why?
Because no realistic ship can take this into orbit. So shut yer trap.
Crossroads Inc
07-02-2004, 22:37
New Empire, my response to you-

Ecliptia Decides to destroy homosexual colony (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2706704#2706704) WHOA... :shock: Is that like directed at me? I mean... I am a Gay nation after all. Personally i hope not, Im not a Space nation, so I would probaly just ignor the heck out of you...

EDIT: oh, and New Empire? Thank you for providing that information, I will look Into the Reginoal Alliance and Message some of those Nations.
Iuthia
07-02-2004, 23:19
New Empire, my response to you-

Ecliptia Decides to destroy homosexual colony

OOC: Well done, this has turned a good official diplomacy thread into a thread with a bit of humour on the side...

Firstly, you seem to have reacted in a IC way to a communication which you couldn't have known about... seeing as I did direct it towards New Empire with the words "Encrypted". But I guess you weren't paying attention.

Which leads me to my next point... What good is a full trade embargo going to do against a nation that has already declared a trade embargo against you... I've already banned trade with your nation so it doesn't even begin to affect me.

Now you destroy a colony you created in anger because you don't like New Empire ignoring your trade embargo... to bad we're not in your time period.

In all, it's been a good day methinks, I've got the designs to a new carrier I like the look of and I've been entertained by your posts...
Adejaani
08-02-2004, 00:09
Communique from Nathan Black, Secretary of Defense, Adejaani

To our friends in New Empire. We have noted your back channels communications and have been monitoring the communications here. Although Adejaani has production rights to these vessels (again, as noted in back channel communications), we are perfectly willing to wait until after the Sambizie order is fulfilled before ours, or anyone else in line for these fine vessels.

Our requirement is for two vessels, but there is absolutely no rush and we are prepared to wait eventually for these fine vessels.
Parlim
08-02-2004, 00:27
That site you posted could prove useful, NE.
New Empire
08-02-2004, 00:40
Communique from Nathan Black, Secretary of Defense, Adejaani

To our friends in New Empire. We have noted your back channels communications and have been monitoring the communications here. Although Adejaani has production rights to these vessels (again, as noted in back channel communications), we are perfectly willing to wait until after the Sambizie order is fulfilled before ours, or anyone else in line for these fine vessels.

Our requirement is for two vessels, but there is absolutely no rush and we are prepared to wait eventually for these fine vessels.
[Encrypt Comm. to Adejanni]
If you will note from earlier back-channel communication, we have begun building at the artificial "floating" city-islands in the Oceanic territories. However, this may be regarded by some as "international waters", so secrecy about the use of this territory is advised.
UCSNE Military Exportation Bureau
Adejaani
08-02-2004, 01:02
Encrypted comminque to New Empire

Is the discussion of such an apparent secret facility wise, despite the security precautions and encryption? Our requirement is for two vessels only and we are prepared to wait. Our own factories and shipyards and training facilities are already strained to the limit, we really could not handle any new ships even if we had them delivered tomorrow. So please, there is no need to rush.
The Zoogie People
08-02-2004, 01:22
The Zoogie People has expressed interest in this technology, but asks New Empire, how do aircraft take off? Or does the craft have to emerge from the water before planes can fly?
New Empire
08-02-2004, 02:32
[Encrypt Comm-Adejaani]
If you wish to wait, that's fine. In a few years the Sambizie CVSN will be complete, and our sub pens will be open.
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Zoogie, the CVSN must surface to launch aircraft, unless it's an F/S-39 Storm Rider Air/SeaCraft, which moves to the surface and then just goes really damn fast.
However, Sea/SubCraft can be released while underwater from the Wetbays.
The Zoogie People
08-02-2004, 02:49
Interesting...the F/S-39 is future technology, though, isn't it? Although I do not fill the requirements of purchasing this product, I would like to know if there is any way my navy could have several constructed over the next few years, either by you or by us; or simply by transfer of the technology necessary for us to build a very similar craft.
08-02-2004, 02:51
OOC:

Yo, Nodea Rudav Here, asked on my Puppet Nations name of Unified Velzuian.

Anywho, if you can't send one don't worry about it. If so, just Telegram me and I'll get back to ya ASAP.

Thanks,
God Bless.
New Empire
08-02-2004, 02:56
OOC-Yep, F/S-39 is probably the most advanced thing we have...
F/S-39A – The original variant.
F/S-39 B – The two seater trainer version.
F/S-39-E - An electronic warfare variant. Used off all UCSNE Naval Carriers.
F/S-39 LEO – An experimental variant designed with additional XT 1200 booster rockets rated at 126 000 lb st each positioned parallel on the fuselage. Designed to take out satellites and installation in Lower Earth Orbit.
F/S-39AX – Experimental dedicated strike variant. Currently undergoing testing.
SPECIFICATIONS
Fuselage: 63 ft 7 in
Powerplant: Two ISC M1 hydrogen burning rocket engines
Weights: Empty 76 000. Air. Max aerial weight 120 000 lb. Sea.Max supercav weight 126 000 lb.
Speed: Air. High Altitude Mach 4, Sea Level Mach 3 Sea: At shallow depth 3400 mph (5440 km/h) deep depth classified.
Range: Maximum range on internal fuel 3200 miles.
Depth: Rated to 13 000 feet.
IC-
If you talk about the F/S-39, that's a no can do. We don't export supercavitating technology outside alliances. If you mean the carrier, production rights will be availible at 95 billion.
The Zoogie People
08-02-2004, 03:42
$95 billion? :shock: Money wired. We thank you greatly for the rights to the submersed carrier.
New Empire
08-02-2004, 03:52
The information is being sent via encrypted disk, with codes sent to a secure account.

Yes, 95 billion. That's slightly more than the cost of research.
The Zoogie People
08-02-2004, 04:06
Thank you once more.
Patoxiae
08-02-2004, 04:12
OOC: Very cool idea! :wink:
08-02-2004, 06:24
This is NOT a new idea. Submarines that carried planes where built and used BEFORE ww2.
Iuthia
08-02-2004, 08:50
This is NOT a new idea. Submarines that carried planes where built and used BEFORE ww2.

OOC: I don't beleive he said it was a new idea... in fact I think he's linked the site he got it from...
New Empire
08-02-2004, 14:11
OOC-I know that, but even though I didn't think of it, making a sub that could use aircraft effectively is.
Iuthia
28-02-2004, 17:03
Bump so I can find it later...