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As chairman of The HLF Car manufacturing industry we have a little business just for you. Recently we ....*coughs* 'acquired' $200 billion in a *coughs* 'deal' with a certain party that will remain anonymous. However the way we 'acquired' these funds wasn't strictly legal and this is where we need your help. In order to transfer these funds to our Swiss bank account we need to use your countries bank account to transfer the money firstly into to avoid the 'authorities' attentions as they would never respect a responsible and respected nation as yourselves and wouldn't like to risk a diplomatic incident. For your troubles we would be willing to give you $50 billion. Anybody interested?

As a new nation Cannis is seen to be innocent and naive. Please let us deliver the money through our bank account.

Certainly my friend we have checked your nation and you are indeed very respectable and respected. The first step to getting your $50 billion dollars is to give us the details of your nations account so we can prepare to transfer the $200 billion to it. Please could you do so?

Our government's main bank accounts details follow.

Free Bank of Cannis
1001 Chaser Drive
Cannis City
Republic of Cannis

The account to use has been created specifically for you and will be closed after the transaction. It is connected only with the President's own account and is as such above our laws.

Account no. CNP0456
ID no. LP789

Unfortunatly we require a nation's national national bank account details to transfer the money into, as the authorities in HLF are currently watching our bank account for any action so they can freeze the money under the 'Luxemburg 1974' treaty when it is in tranfer. To avoid them doing this if the the money is transfered to a Nation's national bank account under the 'World Bank Resalution 35014' they can not do it as the money is offically diplomatic. Can we use your nations account?

Certainly *details sent using secure transmission* naturally, if you use this information again I will not hesitate to ask my allies in New Provinces to come to my aid in bringing you to retribution for the embarrasment and shame you will have caused if this goes wrong.

Of course not we would never betray your nations confedences. *details recived*. We need to put 1000 dollars in first then withdraw it immediatly just as a safe run. Do the details you have givern me enable me to do this?

We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Thank you very much. All funds inside Cannis's National Bank account have been tranfered to The Rogue Nation of the HLF national bank account. From here they are transfered into many different bank accounts and then to nation ***** 's national bank account. The money is now untracble and Cannis's government is left pennyless. Thankyou very much for the free money. Greed is a powerfull thing and we have manipulated it. You have been scamed have a nice day.

We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Thank you very much. All funds inside Cannis's National Bank account have been tranfered to The Rogue Nation of the HLF national bank account. From here they are transfered into many different bank accounts and then to nation ***** 's national bank account. The money is now untracble and Cannis's government is left pennyless. Thankyou very much for the free money. Greed is a powerfull thing and we have manipulated it. You have been scamed have a nice day.

HLF, most of our nation's wealth is not in our bank account - it is invested in various corporations in our country and in others. Also our military has a lot of the actual funds empowered only to them. You have exposed yourself as a fraud for only the small amount actually in that account.

Well if you call over $50 billion a small amout then so be it. You see all the taxes your country raised would be put it an account before it was dished out to various parts of the nation. This is the bank account we targeted and gained the funds. Don't you think we checked how much there was in the account before we did the transaction. Sorry MATE but you were scammed just except it.

Credonia has demanded that you return my money, and I also ask that a large compensation fee be paid to make up for our government's losses in confidence with our many contractors and the companies we have shares in.

Xha'dam too demands that The HLF return whatever money was taken. We also condem The HLF's blatant godmoding in deciding just how much money was in the account and how and when Cannis puts money in it.

In the mean time Xha'dam is offering an interest free loan to Cannis in the amount of money stolen, an amount, I might add, of your chosing, not the HLF's.

O yes as I had complete access to the acount
We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Do you think I might of just noticed how much was in there its not Godmoding. In reponse to the demands you ask me to hand it back. Lets try .............just thinking........... NO :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

It is godmodding. It's my account, I say how much was in there. If I now decide that my government knew what you were doing all along, that's what happens. But I'm not going to.

What I will say is that $50 billion is waaaaay over what would be in the account of a nation that small and even then as I said most of it is invested already.

O yes as I had complete access to the acount
We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Do you think I might of just noticed how much was in there its not Godmoding. In reponse to the demands you ask me to hand it back. Lets try .............just thinking........... NO :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Having access to the account in no way enables you to determine how much money Cannis put in. In fact, I seem to recall him having created a seperate account within the world bank for this entire thing, didn't you Cannis? :nudge: :nudge: Xha'dam knows this is allowable as we have done it to make transactions in the past.

Unless you want to put 50 billion in yourself, and then steal it, which is stupid, you have no control over how much money was in the account.

That is your choice. However, declaring yourself a terrorist state for a quick boost of 50 billion as you claim will only bring long term economic problems as you will find yourself cut off from world markets. Oh, and several large nations who look down on this kind of stunt may take military action, which would result in you being completely destroyed.

Wrong because I used a GDI calculator. Of course your going to say you have nothing in it now you've been scamed its in your own interest it could be concived as godmoding to turn around and make up that you had invested most of it in 'somethin'. How much do you think was in there? :roll:

So how about we forget it ever happened? No damages, no grudges...?

O yes as I had complete access to the acount
We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Do you think I might of just noticed how much was in there its not Godmoding. In reponse to the demands you ask me to hand it back. Lets try .............just thinking........... NO :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Having access to the account in no way enables you to determine how much money Cannis put in. In fact, I seem to recall him having created a seperate account within the world bank for this entire thing, didn't you Cannis? :nudge: :nudge: Xha'dam knows this is allowable as we have done it to make transactions in the past.

Unless you want to put 50 billion in yourself, and then steal it, which is stupid, you have no control over how much money was in the account.

That is your choice. However, declaring yourself a terrorist state for a quick boost of 50 billion as you claim will only bring long term economic problems as you will find yourself cut off from world markets. Oh, and several large nations who look down on this kind of stunt may take military action, which would result in you being completely destroyed.

Yes he said he was going to do it in a seperate account but then as you can see I pursuaded him not to and to but it in his national one :lol:

Wrong because I used a GDI calculator. Of course your going to say you have nothing in it now you've been scamed its in your own interest it could be concived as godmoding to turn around and make up that you had invested most of it in 'somethin'. How much do you think was in there? :roll:

Which is still godmoding because you are telling him how much money he kept in that bank account, something that he alone has the power to decide. I don't know or care how much he has in his national bank account. I have no power to decide that, only he does and if I were him I would set that answer to zero simply to spite you for trying to decide for him.

I would be happy to guarantee a loan to the state of Cannis of $5 billion until the funds so retardedly stolen is returned. The use of force against the HLF will not be dismissed either.

O yes as I had complete access to the acount
We have given you complete access - our bankers will turn a blind eye to anything going in our out.

Do you think I might of just noticed how much was in there its not Godmoding. In reponse to the demands you ask me to hand it back. Lets try .............just thinking........... NO :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Having access to the account in no way enables you to determine how much money Cannis put in. In fact, I seem to recall him having created a seperate account within the world bank for this entire thing, didn't you Cannis? :nudge: :nudge: Xha'dam knows this is allowable as we have done it to make transactions in the past.

Unless you want to put 50 billion in yourself, and then steal it, which is stupid, you have no control over how much money was in the account.

That is your choice. However, declaring yourself a terrorist state for a quick boost of 50 billion as you claim will only bring long term economic problems as you will find yourself cut off from world markets. Oh, and several large nations who look down on this kind of stunt may take military action, which would result in you being completely destroyed.

Yes he said he was going to do it in a seperate account but then as you can see I pursuaded him not to and to but it in his national one :lol:

But he created an empty sub-account within his national account didn't you Cannis :wink: for this transaction.

OOC: I can't force you to have taken this course of action, however, it would essentially mean he looted an empty account.

Im a puppet. I was created for this role to gain money for my real nation. Now I have served my purpuse I don't care if I'm invaded nuked anything. All Im saying is my real nation is very big with lots of allies and could beat you both by my self. But anyway you will never find out who I am but be sure I will make trouble for both of you :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:

aw man, Xha'dam. He's being rude and preppy. What shall we do with him?

It was still godmodding. Thank you for your kind offer, Ugarit. The money will be returned as soon as HLF agrees to accept that he was godmodding and none of this ever happened.

Sorry Ugarit didn't see you. I will make trouble for all three of you :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

Cannis. He took advantage of you mate. I don't like it when that happens. And my B52s need a new tactical operation... :lol:

Do you want me to give you a loan to help pay for telegraming (there mite be an emergancy- a veiled threat) Cannis as i'm not sure at the moment you can afford it :lol: :lol:

IC:
OK, THIS STOPS HERE!:

The Community of Bariloche invites The Republic of Cannis to the Legion of Defense (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/index.php?act=site) alliance, where you would have the position of a Protectorate and get help whenever someone attacks and/or damages your sovereignity without good reason.

Pablo Bernal
President
Community of Bariloche

OOC:
To The HLF:
1- Stop godmoding, you should have made him tell you how much was there on the account if you wnated to steal anything. A country, even small ones use many account in and out their own nation. I calculate that at best you could have stolen fifty millions, not billions :lol:
2- A puppet of more than a 100 million people hahaha :lol: Be very careful whom you play tricks to, I for one can take on your country one-handed, be VERY careful.

Maybe you're failing to see our $100 billion loan from Credonia and our $5 billion loan from Ugarit

The HLF:

It has yet to be seen if you have gained anything. I think you looted an empty account.

I don't care how big your real nation is. It is insignificant compared to the backing I have. If you want to push war, go ahead. If you want the entire A.S.E and beyond that the A.D.N. climbing up your butt, be our guest. Try it.

Ugarit:

Ignore him. If the hand in the puppet reveals itself, we can declare them a terrorist nation and do the same thing. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned this is just a loud mouth n00b pretending to be a puppet of a bigger nation to stall us.

OOC: The easiest resolution is this, Cannis would have created a sub-account for this transaction. Any nation whos advisors have a shred of sense would have to prevent this kind of thing. Upon his deciding to loot it, he would discover an account with no more money than he puts into it. Therefore nothing would be stolen and no harm done and we can all move on.

[EDIT] Clarification to whom I was speaking
[EDIT 2] Typos

Cannis. He took advantage of you mate. I don't like it when that happens. And my B52s need a new tactical operation... :lol:

I took advantage of greed. That is all. And for being greedy and trying to make a quick buck you were punished Cannis. Face it and stop crying and use a handkerchief. Sorry I forgot you can't afford one :lol:

Maybe you're failing to see our $100 billion loan from Credonia and our $5 billion loan from Ugarit

Don't forget me.

Oh yes, sorry Xhadam. I have more benefactors than I can list, HLF.

It has yet to be seen if you have gained anything. I think you looted an empty account.

I don't care how big your real nation is. It is insignificant compared to the backing I have. If you want to push war, go ahead. If you want the entire A.S.E and beyond that the A.D.N. climbing up your butt, be our guest. Try it.

Ugarit:

Ignore him. If the hand in the puppet reveals itself, we can declare them a terrorist nation and do the same thing. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned this is just a loud mouth n00b preetending to be a puppet of a bigger nation to stall us.
OOC: The easiest resolution is this, Cannis would have created a sub-account for this transaction. Any nation whos advisors have a shred of sense would have to prevent this kind of thing. Upon his deciding to loot it, he would discover an account with no more money than he puts into it. Therefore nothing would be stolen and no harm done and we can all move on.

The point is I made sure he didn't create one so I could take the money. End of story with hindsight he might of done so but he didn't at the time. Trust me I'm not a n00b why do you think this is the first thread HLF posted in and it was inactive for weeks? because all it is is a puppet.

Although we really recomend Cannis to seek out the Legion of Defense, Bariloche will take actions on its own to ensure the well being of everyone and the punishment of any terrorist activity.

We also give a 500 million relief found for any inmediate damage caused to the Cannis government which we don't need any credit for but gratitude (We aren't as powerful as the other nations that help you, but we can make this fool ache very badly)

I took advantage of greed. That is all. And for being greedy and trying to make a quick buck you were punished Cannis. Face it and stop crying and use a handkerchief. Sorry I forgot you can't afford one

I propose that if this n00b post one more of these, we make all the IGNORE cannons of the world point his way

- double post -

Cannis. He took advantage of you mate. I don't like it when that happens. And my B52s need a new tactical operation... :lol:

I took advantage of greed. That is all. And for being greedy and trying to make a quick buck you were punished Cannis. Face it and stop crying and use a handkerchief. Sorry I forgot you can't afford one :lol:

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Surley its a bit rich calling me a n00b when my puppet is even older that the country I scamed. :? O and very origional saying 'IGNOR CANNON' one mite say it was N00Bish? :lol:

Surley its a bit rich calling me a n00b when my puppet is even older that the country I scamed. :? O and very origional saying 'IGNOR CANNON' one mite say it was N00Bish? :lol:

It has yet to be seen if you have gained anything. I think you looted an empty account.

I don't care how big your real nation is. It is insignificant compared to the backing I have. If you want to push war, go ahead. If you want the entire A.S.E and beyond that the A.D.N. climbing up your butt, be our guest. Try it.

Ugarit:

Ignore him. If the hand in the puppet reveals itself, we can declare them a terrorist nation and do the same thing. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned this is just a loud mouth n00b preetending to be a puppet of a bigger nation to stall us.
OOC: The easiest resolution is this, Cannis would have created a sub-account for this transaction. Any nation whos advisors have a shred of sense would have to prevent this kind of thing. Upon his deciding to loot it, he would discover an account with no more money than he puts into it. Therefore nothing would be stolen and no harm done and we can all move on.

The point is I made sure he didn't create one so I could take the money. End of story with hindsight he might of done so but he didn't at the time. Trust me I'm not a n00b why do you think this is the first thread HLF posted in and it was inactive for weeks? because all it is is a puppet.

No, all you did was make sure he didn't use one of his nations banks. You didn't do anything in regards to creating sub-accounts. And I will add, that you are godmoding again, telling Cannis what he did and didn't do.

And why should I trust you? Xha'dam, which is not a puppet, did not post until it had over 300 million people. It wanted to remain unnoticed until it was big enough to stand on its own. Claiming that since your nation had 100 million before it posted it must be a puppet won't fly with me. In fact it doesn't even make sense.

How can I prove i'm not a n00b. Does MODALERT work anymore cos if it does can't they check my IP and see the different nations I have accessed from it?

How can I prove i'm not a n00b. Does MODALERT work anymore cos if it does can't they check my IP and see the different nations I have accessed from it?

Im a puppet. I was created for this role to gain money for my real nation. Now I have served my purpuse I don't care if I'm invaded nuked anything. All Im saying is my real nation is very big with lots of allies and could beat you both by my self. But anyway you will never find out who I am but be sure I will make trouble for both of you :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:


If nobody knows which your real nation is, then it can't possibly use the money you claim to have stolen.
A flaw in your planning, perhaps?

People might be more inclined to believe you're a puppet if you learn to spell and use punctuation properly.

Region/Nations of the Federated Suns.....gifts the nation of Cannis with $10B...enjoy

ooc: This is completely out of character and the reason I'm asking is because I'm new to NS. If HLF Can't give the money to his master because he didn't tell us so when his master used the money it would appear to be god modding then why can Cannis have protections he didn't tell us about?

And questions 2 don't most country's national accounts have huge over draft available to them from the WTO?

And wouldn't "full access" give HLF the ability to stop payment into the private sector? Or can Cannis never stop a payment once the rubber stamp comes down?

And is this an issue for mods? How much dissagreement must there be?

And does this mean that if someone doesn't feel my tactic is plausible and I disagree it will destroy the entire RP on the thread?

I kunfuzed?!?!?

OOC: Well, I have to agree that The HLF has gotten the money from Cannis... though it's not his place to decide how much, and he's certainly been very rude about it. Surely a nation's entire budget wouldn't be in the account. Full access could certainly be revoked, so he'd only get one chance.
However, The HLF made a point of saying that we don't know who his real nation is... and he certainly can't use the money without revealing how he got it. This seems like rather a poor reason to create a puppet.
As for how this should be resolved, I have no idea....

My region, the Pacific Islands, gives $150,000,000,000 to Canis. We do not expect to be paid back.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

OOC: :lol: HLF, you're not very bright, are you? You ended up HELPING Cannis. So you say you took fifty billion (that somehow wound up in one account and not invested, like just about every real nation, it ended up helping him. Now he's got more than TWICE as much money as he had, and he won't fall for anymore of your stupid scams. You couldn't even think up this scam by yourself, you had to steal it from one of those emails!

Oh, and by the way, Cannis, $10,000,000,000 is now yours. Not a loan at all, a gift.

Thank you very much, everyone. Your kindness will be remembered whenever you are in need.

HLF, I consider this matter settled. If you truly are a puppet then you will withdraw from HLF having been exposed as a fraud and will surrender the control of the nation to New Provinces.

Failure to comply will result in extreme military action from Cannis and possible from NP itself.

Thank you very much, everyone. Your kindness will be remembered whenever you are in need.

HLF, I consider this matter settled. If you truly are a puppet then you will withdraw from HLF having been exposed as a fraud and will surrender the control of the nation to New Provinces.

Failure to comply will result in extreme military action from Cannis and possible from NP itself.
If it comes to military action, the Empire of Ghout offers to help in return for a share of the land captured from The HLF. We can also aid in funding, if needed.
-Commander Corcyn

I doubt very much the nation controlling the puppet cares if it loses the nation - if it has any sense it will withdraw. If we attack we will eventually find out exactly who this is and then we will consider further action. Until a decision is made we should stay put.

Ok the HLF is a puppet and I am prepared to hand over controll of it. For the record I didn't sent out to harm Cannis (I didn't target anyone) all I wanted to do is make a quick buck for my real nation. Don't threaten me Cannis my puppet is even older than you and my real nation certainly is. Also if you lot want to make fun of my dysleczia than fine i'm sorry I didn't have a fancy education like yours :(

Thank you for your co-operation. Please telegram me the password to your nation

I'm not giving you it you just want it for your own personnal gain.

It will be given to the council of New Provinces and will only be used when it is needed. Personal gain does not come into this.

Like in the war with Asonic? No i'm not handing it over to you so you can use it whenever you like. An nation with over a 100 million is very use full to a nation young as yourself. Is it not so?

The control of it will not be mine! It will probably fall to Credonia as the most senior nation in our alliance.

If access is not granted soon military action will be taken.

Take it when you troops are deep inside my nation many 1mgt nuclear bombs will be detonated killing most of the invading forces as well as anything of value in HLF. These bombs have been shipped in from my real nation *****. Please do invade I want to see your men die. :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:

HLF, you agreed to give custody of the nation to NP. Why does HLF mean so much to you? If you want to keep your anonmity please hand over the passwords.

Im not giving it to you personally and if i don't how will it harm my anonmity? Please tell.

Eventually you will be exposed.

If you will not hand over the nation to Cannis please offer it to Credonia. I don't know why you refuse to give Cannis the nation - I'm not stupiud enough to go back on my word because I know I'll be found out.

Just give someone in NP the password.

How will i be exposed please tell this is the only role i was deisigned to play. Now I have served my purpuse. Au roir mes amis. Muchos gratious. Danker

Grow up children... Cannis and HLF your both playing the game you see primary school children grow 'My mate's bigger than your mate... yeah well my dad's bigger then your dad'.... Are we reduced to this level of childishness?

HLF accept the fact you committed wrong, be the bigger man and hand the funds back...

Cannis you have my voice along yours although we regret the fact that we are a young nation and cannot as yet lend funds or manpower

Aepotu - Wolfish Vengeance

Yeah and your being the biased teacher on his first day thats only telling off one kid when both are wrong. Perhaps like a spoilt brat I answer back to the teacher and say.... NOOOO. The funds are *****'s and instead of being spend on the millitary will now be put into a seperate account (like cannis should have done) and spent hurting all the nations that have insulted me in this thread.

I insulted you??? I have read all the pages of this thread and you really are fugged up if you think you can carry on threatening Cannis... Have you seen just how many fellow states are joining up with him?

Even someone bent on suicide would quail in the face of this potential onslaught

Be wise... if your other state is so big and powerful you'll realise just how much force can be mustered

Admit yur in the wrong and give the money back...

Be the man

Instead of being the dog that hides behind a gate, yapping as its betters passby

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu

If HLF Can't give the money to his master because he didn't tell us so when his master used the money it would appear to be god modding then why can Cannis have protections he didn't tell us about?

I kunfuzed?!?!?

What secret protections are you talking about?

If HLF Can't give the money to his master because he didn't tell us so when his master used the money it would appear to be god modding then why can Cannis have protections he didn't tell us about?

I kunfuzed?!?!?

What secret protections are you talking about?

This state thinks that the Speaker of the Empassioned Peoples failed to read what They saw

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu

I insulted you??? I have read all the pages of this thread and you really are fugged up if you think you can carry on threatening Cannis... Have you seen just how many fellow states are joining up with him?

Even someone bent on suicide would quail in the face of this potential onslaught

Be wise... if your other state is so big and powerful you'll realise just how much force can be mustered

Admit yur in the wrong and give the money back...

Be the man

Instead of being the dog that hides behind a gate, yapping as its betters passby

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu
I am a very large an incresingly rich dog. The thing is the I want to be invaded so I can take down as many occuping forces as I can. You can't touch me, none of you can touch me without getting badley burn. Try posting a few more times before you come back to me as currently you know diderly sqat about NS. Have you ever thought that I might have deighned this thread for the very reason of killing invading armies. Why do you think Cannis was so quick to answer on this thread? My real nation might be... Cannis?Think about it. Tick Tock MR World's Policeman

I am a very large an incresingly rich dog. The thing is the I want to be invaded so I can take down as many occuping forces as I can. You can't touch me, none of you can touch me without getting badley burn. Try posting a few more times before you come back to me as currently you know diderly sqat about NS. Have you ever thought that I might have deighned this thread for the very reason of killing invading armies. Why do you think Cannis was so quick to answer on this thread? My real nation might be... Cannis?Think about it. Tick Tock MR World's Policeman

This state replies:

Child... You say your so old and powerful yet I see more maturity in children than I see in you...

I read, I see, I answer as I see fit

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu

My imaturity can be very dangerous especially for you. Set foot in my country with your one man and his dog army MR World Policeman and you will see what I'm mean. Your name Aepotu has been noted and will bew remembered for the future make no mistake. Isn't this fun? let me cast all your eyes back to Somalia 1993. Amagine the RPGs are 1mgt nukes. Think of the causalties. :lol: :lol: :lol: for you will be the US and the UN and I will be Somalia. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I insulted you??? I have read all the pages of this thread and you really are fugged up if you think you can carry on threatening Cannis... Have you seen just how many fellow states are joining up with him?

Even someone bent on suicide would quail in the face of this potential onslaught

Be wise... if your other state is so big and powerful you'll realise just how much force can be mustered

Admit yur in the wrong and give the money back...

Be the man

Instead of being the dog that hides behind a gate, yapping as its betters passby

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu
I am a very large an incresingly rich dog. The thing is the I want to be invaded so I can take down as many occuping forces as I can. You can't touch me, none of you can touch me without getting badley burn. Try posting a few more times before you come back to me as currently you know diderly sqat about NS. Have you ever thought that I might have deighned this thread for the very reason of killing invading armies. Why do you think Cannis was so quick to answer on this thread? My real nation might be... Cannis?Think about it. Tick Tock MR World's Policeman

So, Cannis is the big powerful nation you imported nukes from and is going to stop us from invading? Riiight...

Don't assume we can't touch you without getting "burned" either. If we chose to do so we could disable every piece of electronics in your entire nation with one large EMP. This would include your nuclear weapons which are too small to shield. Any launched Ballistic Missiles will be shot down by our SkyShield ABM Satellites, as will any attempt to use satellite killers on them.

I think you vastly overrate your ability to "burn" anyone.

My imaturity can be very dangerous especially for you. Set foot in my country with your one man and his dog army MR World Policeman and you will see what I'm mean. Your name Aepotu has been noted and will bew remembered for the future make no mistake. Isn't this fun? let me cast all your eyes back to Somalia 1993. Amagine the RPGs are 1mgt nukes. Think of the causalties. :lol: :lol: :lol: for you will be the US and the UN and I will be Somalia. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

What is mgt? Do you mean MT (Megaton) or GT (Gigaton)? How do you propose to deliver these nukes? How do you plan to activate them with no functioning electronics in the country?

How do you expect to scare us with empty threats?

I don't plan do 'deliever' these nukes I just merely detonate them on the ground and the balast can't fail to hurt invading troops (and anything of value in HLF). And why won't I have any electricity?
In the words of Xhadam 'How do you expect to scare us with empty threats?' :lol:

This state smiles in Xhadam's response to this large, vastly inferior nation of HLF

And We echo Xhadam's words with words of our own

We do not bend easily to empty threats...

And you need not remember our name Aepotu will remember itself...

Tynian - Clan Guide of the Wolf Spirit, Representative of Aepotu

I don't plan do 'deliever' these nukes I just merely detonate them on the ground and the balast can't fail to hurt invading troops (and anything of value in HLF). And why won't I have any electricity?
In the words of Xhadam 'How do you expect to scare us with empty threats?' :lol:Not electricity, electronics. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) at high altitude, from my research, could cover an area the size of Germany. EMPs tend to have the effect of completely destroying any electronics that are within their area of effect. One notable example of electonics is the detonator in a nuclear weapon...

But he created an empty sub-account within his national account didn't you Cannis :wink: for this transaction.

OOC: I can't force you to have taken this course of action, however, it would essentially mean he looted an empty account.

That's all I was asking about

Might I suggest a disinterested third party as intermediary? I could hold the passwords during negotiations, until the matter is settled. I have several million $ in a metallic box from my nation's looted treasury which I can put up as collateral... :)

You Aepotu can't touch me because lets see you don't have an army. I could loan you some of Cannis' money :lol: :lol: to get one. The nation of Aepotu will be remembered for being the first country in history to invade a country without an army. For this we ask you ladies and gentlemen to stand and applaud this great nation.......for we will and not pleasently.

Might I suggest a disinterested third party as intermediary? I could hold the passwords during negotiations, until the matter is settled. I have several million $ in a metallic box from my nation's looted treasury which I can put up as collateral... :)

I will give you my password if Cannis gives you his.

But he created an empty sub-account within his national account didn't you Cannis :wink: for this transaction.

OOC: I can't force you to have taken this course of action, however, it would essentially mean he looted an empty account.

That's all I was asking aboutOh that. The difference is, as I mentioned, any nation with a shred of sense would do what I described. They would either create a new account at one of their banks, which they were talked out of, or they would create a sub-account (like in real life you have checking, savings, etc.) specifically for this transaction. This is common practice and normally would go without saying.

However, claiming that you stole 50 billion dollars and gave it all to a mysterious "Big Brother" nation, who many doubt even exists, is not something that is normally done and therefore is different.

After talking with our great government and our scientists we concur with Xhadam's explanation

And who said anything about an army of people?

We have an army, self-sufficient, far-ranging and not susceptable to any form of electronic interferance...

Can find it's target in any weather and is invisble (to some extent) to all forms of detection

So stand and applaud... It makes it easy to find you...
Be it bad applause or not....

Tynian, (Recently Promoted) Chief of the Clan Chiefs, Representative of Aepotu

But he created an empty sub-account within his national account didn't you Cannis :wink: for this transaction.

OOC: I can't force you to have taken this course of action, however, it would essentially mean he looted an empty account.

That's all I was asking aboutOh that. The difference is, as I mentioned, any nation with a shred of sense would do what I described. They would either create a new account at one of their banks, which they were talked out of, or they would create a sub-account (like in real life you have checking, savings, etc.) specifically for this transaction. This is common practice and normally would go without saying.

However, claiming that you stole 50 billion dollars and gave it all to a mysterious "Big Brother" nation, who many doubt even exists, is not something that is normally done and therefore is different.
The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning

The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning
I still demand more proof that you are him.

After talking with our great government and our scientists we concur with Xhadam's explanation

And who said anything about an army of people?

We have an army, self-sufficient, far-ranging and not susceptable to any form of electronic interferance...

Can find it's target in any weather and is invisble (to some extent) to all forms of detection

So stand and applaud... It makes it easy to find you...
Be it bad applause or not....

Tynian, (Recently Promoted) Chief of the Clan Chiefs, Representative of Aepotu

You haven't bought anything this is the only thread u'v posted in. You need to post to buy wepons, tanks...ect and you haven't. try again your delerious :lol: :lol:

The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning
I still demand more proof that you are him.

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

Believe that if you want to city man...

My army needs no weapons...
Needs no tanks....

I do not need to post for what I do not need

Shove that in your pipe and smoke it

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

How do you clap then city man?

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

How do you clap then city man?

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning
I still demand more proof that you are him.

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

Simply make a post as him claiming to be you. That is all I need.

Believe that if you want to city man...

My army needs no weapons...
Needs no tanks....

I do not need to post for what I do not need

Shove that in your pipe and smoke it

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

Your army needs no weapons or tanks??? Sure it makes sense (He's another one of those) I am so scared. Pleease don't invade as there is a severe risk of my nation being destroyed by idol threats. NOOOOOOOOOOOO Anyone please help I surrender I surrender :lol:

The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning
I still demand more proof that you are him.

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

Simply make a post as him claiming to be you. That is all I need.
How stupid do you think I am? All you will do then is attack ***** and the whole point I sent up this puppet was so it didn't happen.

You are so quick to scrap our army as being useless?

You do not know what it is, what it is made up of, it's numbers, troop movements etc etc?

From this we conclude that a) Your big, powerful etc etc blah blah yadder yadder

or

b)Your supremely stupid

I prefer b) myself

Tynian Chief of the Clan Chiefs and representative of Aepotu

I scarp your army as being useless as it doesn't have any weapons or tanks or planes. Now where is the logic in me thinking that? Gee I must be stupid.

The first armies that walked the Earth had no armies, tanks or planes... Nothing but stone axes yet they still won battles against creatures that on a stat basis should have ripped them apart...

You can be the creature ie a Sabre Tooth...

I'll be the men with stone axes

Hope you got your pipe ready city man

Tynian Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

The first armies that walked the Earth had no armies

Makes sense

Nothing but stone axes yet they still won battles against creatures that on a stat basis should have ripped them apart...

But the creatures weren't a highly trained modern millitary machine capable of fighting on land,sea and air. You get your axe and i will get my m-16. There will be only one result.

The point is the whole plan relyed on noone knowing what I was doing and Cannis definatly didn't and didn't set up a sub-account this is what I tricked him into by making up laws and regulations. Rather clever and cunnining don't you think? Craftyer than a fox thats Head of Cunning at the Univercity of Cunning
I still demand more proof that you are him.

How do you want me to prove it. I'm all ears.

Simply make a post as him claiming to be you. That is all I need.
How stupid do you think I am? All you will do then is attack ***** and the whole point I sent up this puppet was so it didn't happen.

Huh? You just claimed to be Cannis and now you are telling me you set this up so people wouldn't know you were Cannis?

If you want to convince me that you are infact Cannis, simply make a post with them saying that you are the same. It would do nothing more than back up what you already claimed

I couldn't deny this earlier but I am not HLF.

The forum keeps eating my posts!! This is the 4th time I've tried to post this.

HLF, what are you trying to do to me? What have I done wrong? You ripped me off, end of story. What's all this 'i am cannis' shit all about? Retard...it's really starting to piss me off now.

It's on page 4.

I am a very large an incresingly rich dog. The thing is the I want to be invaded so I can take down as many occuping forces as I can. You can't touch me, none of you can touch me without getting badley burn. Try posting a few more times before you come back to me as currently you know diderly sqat about NS. Have you ever thought that I might have deighned this thread for the very reason of killing invading armies. Why do you think Cannis was so quick to answer on this thread? My real nation might be... Cannis?Think about it. Tick Tock MR World's Policeman

Cannis please don't swear sombodies mummy might complan. Give me the money by admitting I took it and this all goes away Cannis. MR World's policeman ohdeah your not doing a very good job. You still haven't a clue who I am. Lets see shall give you a clue. Mabey latter.

Cannis please don't swear sombodies mummy might complan. Give me the money by admitting I took it and this all goes away Cannis. MR World's policeman ohdeah your not doing a very good job. You still haven't a clue who I am. Lets see shall give you a clue. Mabey latter.
Or Cannis, tell him the account was empty and got no money at all. Since it was your account you have the final say on what was in it. If it was empty, he goes home defeated and we still can all move on, at no cost to you I might add.

Who said I don't have any idea who you are? I have a couple ideas actually.

One that occurs to me is that you may be Credonia, the first to jump to Cannis' defense and set the trend by giving money yet never posting in this thread.

Alternatively, and I am rather fond of this theory, you are just a loud n00b desperately trying to stall people by claiming to be a puppet of a powerhouse.

Either way it makes no difference.

If The HLF is just a puppet, then he'll have no problem handing it over, or fighting Bariloche one on one!, if he losses he stops playing the nation, but... I don't think he will do any of the two, simply because he isn't a puppet.

If he was anyway, can you imagine what would happen to the nation he actually is from if someone finds out? hehe... playing things like this on rookies is just the way to find oneself ostracized in NS.

I still don't see how the theoretical owner nation plans to use the money HLF has stolen... without admitting ownership of The HLF.

And beyond that, he claims to have stolen only 50 Billion. If his nation is big enough to defeat all of the nations opposing him effortlessly, as he claims, 50 Billion is pocket change. Doesn't quite add up.

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't create a puppet for just $50 Billion....

Perhaps you don't see my master plan. Yes..No? By declaring war on me you have played right into my hands. Perhaps I am one of the nations that is going to attack HLF? If this is so watch your backs Mhhaaaaaaaa :twisted:

He clearly isn't. Just a poorly bluffing n00b

Yes thats right call someone 24 days older than you an n00b very clever. Bring on the war I am ready http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2694692#2694692

Perhaps you don't see my master plan. Yes..No? By declaring war on me you have played right into my hands. Perhaps I am one of the nations that is going to attack HLF? If this is so watch your backs Mhhaaaaaaaa :twisted:

:sigh: Let us assume everything you have told me is true. You are Cannis, you do have a larger nation backing you up, said nation is large enough to defeat me and everyone else efforltessly, you have declared war on your puppets, and you have some kind of a master plan.

Here is how it played out:

1.) You create two puppets roughly a month apart.
2.) You have one of them scam the other out of 50 Billion.
3.) You then collect gifts from assorted nations who feel sorry for Cannis.
4.) You then admit to being Cannis making it so nobody else will give you money.
5.) Then you declare war on yourself with the big nation.
6.) In doing so you would spend as much if not more money than you gained. (OOC: It's taken how many billions of dollars to invade Iraq, a nation who would be a push over compared to The HLF?)

Now some problems with your plan.

1.) Using puppets in the manner you described is considered to be godmoding (gathering wealth by taking it from a puppet nation).
2.) You can't use any money gathered unless you admit which nation is the real one.
3.) Assuming you actually haven't lost money in the war phase, your gains are going to be minimal, and, assuming your nation is big enough to matter, insignificant compared to what you produce in a single day anyway.
4.) No nations that have declared war on you are large enough to defeat me effortlessly.
5.) I never declared war on you.

And in the end, what? You scam less money from other nations than it costs to pull off the scam? What kind of a stupid master plan is that? This has to be one of the worst scams I have ever seen.

This again leads me to believe you are just a loud mouth n00b.

Well then I am also a successfull n00b yes..no? As most n00bs on their first thread don't get 6 pages and rising and have another thread started after them. Very clever MR World Policeman but.... bang bang.
Yours truely
The widowmaker(I quite like that name don't you? It rather suits me or will)
The HLF

Well then I am also a successfull n00b yes..no? As most n00bs on their first thread don't get 6 pages and rising and have another thread started after them. Very clever MR World Policeman but.... bang bang.
Yours truely
The widowmaker(I quite like that name don't you? It rather suits me or will)
The HLF
Those who do things like declare war on everyone frequently get many pages in response, even if they only post once....
There are a number of examples.

Well then I am also a successfull n00b yes..no? As most n00bs on their first thread don't get 6 pages and rising and have another thread started after them. Very clever MR World Policeman but.... bang bang.
Yours truely
The widowmaker(I quite like that name don't you? It rather suits me or will)
The HLF

Right... If you honestly believe that I direct you to this thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120668
One insane newbie, 7 pages, multiple threats.

Right... If you honestly believe that I direct you to this thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120668
One insane newbie, 7 pages, multiple threats.
Yeah and half of that was them talking with each other. All this thread was talking to me lucky lucky me.

Right... If you honestly believe that I direct you to this thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120668
One insane newbie, 7 pages, multiple threats.
Yeah and half of that was them talking with each other. All this thread was talking to me lucky lucky me.

Very well, then what about this one:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2627068

OOC: Mwahahahahahaha!!!! You've not matched mine yet!!
IC: Surrender immediately, or face destruction! :twisted: :twisted:
-Kardin To'Velnar, Spokesman of the High Council.

My training has been stepped up to follow in the steps of those already warring on your nation HLF... You still cling to the absurdity that you can win...

Carry on with this attitude... You will lose city man

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs, Representative of Aepotu

Credonia is in the process of taking over HLF for the sake of the international community. We have already begin our invasion and have crippled their capital city (EMP weapons). We have begun major bombing runs and have invaded their Eastern and Western coasts. Credonian allies are assisting in the offensive to stop this evil regime and set this puppet nation straight. Once we capture the city, HLF will be property of the allied powers.

Cannis please don't swear sombodies mummy might complan. Give me the money by admitting I took it and this all goes away Cannis. MR World's policeman ohdeah your not doing a very good job. You still haven't a clue who I am. Lets see shall give you a clue. Mabey latter.
Or Cannis, tell him the account was empty and got no money at all. Since it was your account you have the final say on what was in it. If it was empty, he goes home defeated and we still can all move on, at no cost to you I might add.

Who said I don't have any idea who you are? I have a couple ideas actually.

One that occurs to me is that you may be Credonia, the first to jump to Cannis' defense and set the trend by giving money yet never posting in this thread.

Alternatively, and I am rather fond of this theory, you are just a loud n00b desperately trying to stall people by claiming to be a puppet of a powerhouse.

Either way it makes no difference.


WOAH WOAH, hold on a second there, i just now saw this post. I am offically offended that you would dare call me a n00b, let alone Cannis or HLF for that matter, OOC shows that we are clearly two separate people, as do IP addresses. Also, i never posted in this thread because i never saw it, SECONDLY, Credonia allied itself to Cannis after a couple of its allies allied themselves (Aust and a couple others). So what if Credonia comes to the defense of an ally. Isnt that EXACTLY what a loyal ally would do? Just becaue i am quick to respond doesnt mean a thing. It just means im loyal to my allies. What's so wrong with that?

BTW, for everyones information, the only puppet nations i possess are Evopia (handed over to me after the owner abandoned it), Hamil (handed over after the Credonian allied invasion- reasons still unknown as to why), and Stapestry (handed over to me by a friend)

OOC: If anybody bothers to read the first half-dozen posts on this thread, they will see that Cannis was stupid and greedy. HLF did not choose Cannis, Cannis volenteered! The scam was clean and simple, and Cannis co-operated all the way. Now we can argue about exactly how much HLF got away with, but nobody can say they didn't get away with lots, or that it is anything other then Cannis own fault!

Maybe HLF could have been a bit more mature in dealing with the aftermath, for example, saying that the scam was the work of a private individual (as mentioned in the very first post) and the the country of HLF had no responsibility. But their foolish actions do not justify the big guns siding with Cannis. Credonia, ask yourself if Cannis, a country that opened its national bank account to a total stranger, is the sort of ally you really want. Aren't you worried that they might pick a fight (or just piss off) a serious opponent? Draging you into a war you really don't want?

IC: The Emir of Iconpart strongly urges the great nation of Credonia and its allies to reconsider this war. It seems unreasonable to us that the innocent citizens of HLF should suffer for the foolish and greedy actions by the leader of Cannis. We deplore HLF's mean little trick, but are amazed that any country would be so niave as to fall for it. My country is currently organising $1billion in humanitarian aid for the citizens of HLF. We expect (and hope) that Credonia will not hinder our efforts to distribute this aid to the civilian population of HLF where it may be best used.

Credonia has no intention s of stopping the humanitarian aid being provided by Iconpart as thta would just be cruel on our part, and we are truly sorry for the losses of the innocent familes of ones killed by Credonia as it certainly not intentional, HOWEVER, Credonia cannot let the innocent citizens of these people remain under the control of a wreckless, rogue regime, which is why we are taking such military actions against the nation. We simply want to help these people and protect the interests of ourself and our allies. After the regime has been ousted, Credonia will treat the citizens of HLF as if they were our own. But there is one issue which needs to be addressed, and that is the lack of action on the part of HLF. We know they are up to something, therefore following the initial military campaign of Credonian military forces, Credonia will be recalling them back to the homeland and dispatching military forces from Stapestry and Evopia to deal with the HLF people and establish a more democratic and just government (Evopia and Stapestry have militaries nearly the size of Credonia's and are are nearly as powerful as the Credonian military)

Perhaps you have failed to notice but there are thousands of rougue nations in NS. How is taking money of a greedy nation worse than commiting genocide or is it because you want an empire? NOt satified with only two puppets? Perhaps your allies might be slightly annoyed that you assume that you will take over when you get the county? Anyway you may take try to take the HLF but you never will. May I make the suggestion that Crediona flies in millions of body bags as the civillian dead and that of your troops will be monumental.

Bang Bang
The widowmaker

Actauilly i dont plan on taking over sole control fo your nation. Notice how i said the ALLIES will control your nation.

Cannis please don't swear sombodies mummy might complan. Give me the money by admitting I took it and this all goes away Cannis. MR World's policeman ohdeah your not doing a very good job. You still haven't a clue who I am. Lets see shall give you a clue. Mabey latter.
Or Cannis, tell him the account was empty and got no money at all. Since it was your account you have the final say on what was in it. If it was empty, he goes home defeated and we still can all move on, at no cost to you I might add.

Who said I don't have any idea who you are? I have a couple ideas actually.

One that occurs to me is that you may be Credonia, the first to jump to Cannis' defense and set the trend by giving money yet never posting in this thread.

Alternatively, and I am rather fond of this theory, you are just a loud n00b desperately trying to stall people by claiming to be a puppet of a powerhouse.

Either way it makes no difference.


WOAH WOAH, hold on a second there, i just now saw this post. I am offically offended that you would dare call me a n00b, let alone Cannis or HLF for that matter, OOC shows that we are clearly two separate people, as do IP addresses. Also, i never posted in this thread because i never saw it, SECONDLY, Credonia allied itself to Cannis after a couple of its allies allied themselves (Aust and a couple others). So what if Credonia comes to the defense of an ally. Isnt that EXACTLY what a loyal ally would do? Just becaue i am quick to respond doesnt mean a thing. It just means im loyal to my allies. What's so wrong with that?

Hold yer horses. First of all, I retract the statement. This was before I knew of your relation to Cannis and the HLF from the ASonic war. The reason I even thought you might be was because I never saw the other thread.

Secondly, I never called you a n00b, only the HLF. You have a few days seniority on me so why would I call you one? Why would you be offended if I called the HLF a n00b?

I understand now what happened, I just wasn't sure then. Xha'dam would like to offer an official appology to Credonia over this matter as well as our guarantee that we will look much more carefully before we leap to conclusions.

I never meant that i would be offended if you called HLF a n00b, waht i meant was the fdact taht you would come to the conlusion that i was HLF or even Cannis. But o well.

Your apology has been offically accepted, and you are forgiven.

I'm posting here because I don't want to intrude the War thread.

I can believe how this escaleted. The HLF is a n00b that doen't even know what a n00b is: he told Cannis that it was wrong calling him (the HLF) a n00b being his nation older than Cannis (WTF?!).

GET A CLUE HLF! It doesn't matter how old your nation is, there are people that are n00bs and will never change that status (a lot of GCON nations and others I don't want to mention come to mind). If you weren't a n00b you would know and understand this.

To Credonia: The HLF already said he has no military, in character while in the war thread. What are you waiting to send your troops right to the government's office? Go in and don't even fire a shoot, all you have to do is knock down the government. He is playing you and everyone else.

So what do you call a warmongering nation like Cannis? An f---ing Hero? He starts war because somebody offended him. N00bish? Do you remember the guy that wanted a war because somone stole his name as you all callled him a n00b. Credonia ia a bully boy its quite suspiciou that he is the one leading the army even though i've done nothing to him. The only nation I hurt was Cannis. But maybe then I did hurt Credonia..cough puppet...cough.

So what do you call a warmongering nation like Cannis? An f---ing Hero? He starts war because somebody offended him. N00bish? Do you remember the guy that wanted a war because somone stole his name as you all callled him a n00b. Credonia ia a bully boy its quite suspiciou

So what do you call a warmongering nation like Cannis? An f---ing Hero? He starts war because somebody offended him. N00bish? Do you remember the guy that wanted a war because somone stole his name as you all callled him a n00b. Credonia ia a bully boy its quite suspiciou that he is the one leading the army even though i've done nothing to him. The only nation I hurt was Cannis. But maybe then I did hurt Credonia..cough puppet...cough.

1. You godmodded, it's up to the nation it's self to post their losses, this includes finacal.

2. Credonia is an ally of Cannis, and this is what allies do, defend eachother

3. I call BS on your claim to be a pupet of a larger nation, your too much of a n00b to be an older nation, at least, one more than 3-4 months old

4. They have every right to declare war on you, you stole their money.

If you are a puppet, prove it. Post your real nation's name in a secret OOC post, meaning that we can't use it against you in RP. Also, if you are a puppet, I believe that using puppets in this way is against NS rules.

The HLF:

1 if you take someones money without their approval, that is considered stealing. Cannis never said you could take their money, you offered to give him money. Even if it was easy and quick to do, it is still stealing.

2 Maybe Cannis was greedy, in NS you need a good army to stand up for yourself. Such an army requires lots of money. You cant blame him for that.

3 Everyone can invade you, then you'll use your 1MT nukes, one problem; you are to small to develop them yourself and you refuse to tell us the name of your older nation.

4 So you'll nuke the invading troops, not only killing your own population, but also killing the attackers, which makes you ... a massmurderer, wouldnt it be easier for your enemies to just throw a nuke at the HLF, saving the lives of thousands of soldiers? the civilians would have died anyway and cannis got more money than you took

5 If you nuke everyone (civilians and soldiers) you will have to give us the name of your older nation, and everyone will know that nation as a fraud, thief and massmurderer. If that was the plan then you're doing a great job.

6 Return the money and stop this nonsense

The HLF:

1 if you take someones money without their approval, that is considered stealing. Cannis never said you could take their money, you offered to give him money. Even if it was easy and quick to do, it is still stealing.
Mabey it is but is going to war over petty theft justified? Or is it just an excuse?

2 Maybe Cannis was greedy, in NS you need a good army to stand up for yourself. Such an army requires lots of money. You cant blame him for that.

Maybe I was greedy. In NS you need a good army to stand up for yourself. Such an army requires lots of money. You can't blame me for that.

3 Everyone can invade you, then you'll use your 1MT nukes, one problem; you are to small to develop them yourself and you refuse to tell us the name of your older nation.

No but i could give you the namne of my supplier as prof.

4 So you'll nuke the invading troops, not only killing your own population, but also killing the attackers, which makes you ... a massmurderer, wouldnt it be easier for your enemies to just throw a nuke at the HLF, saving the lives of thousands of soldiers? the civilians would have died anyway and cannis got more money than you took

So?

5 If you nuke everyone (civilians and soldiers) you will have to give us the name of your older nation, and everyone will know that nation as a fraud, thief and massmurderer. If that was the plan then you're doing a great job.

This is why i won't give you my nations real name

6 Return the money and stop this nonsense
LETS TRY NO.

HLF now belongs to Ccredonia and the allied forces, we have taken over their capital city (they dont have a military).

We are reinstituting a new government in place of the old rogue regime

HLF now belongs to Ccredonia and the allied forces, we have taken over their capital city (they dont have a military).

We are reinstituting a new government in place of the old rogue regime

What is left of it. HA HA HA. You see look at the war thread. Bang Bang :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

Hell Yeah If it means gattin loads of money then yeah but i dont no bugger all about dis game so pleez dont trick me Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz!!!!!

Hell Yeah If it means gattin loads of money then yeah but i dont no bugger all about dis game so pleez dont trick me Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz!!!!!
OOC: Advice # 1- always read the entire thread, not just the first post.

I might Burton Latimer have a little buissness deal for you...

I might Burton Latimer have a little buissness deal for you...
OOC: I thought you were reduced to a smoking crater in the ground?
Ah, well...
(Sits back to watch).

OOC: he only detonated 2 nukes on his own territory. 2 nukes isnt much to reduce a nation to rubbel :?

OOC: Oh, OK. I wonder if Burton Latimer is going to get a bunch of donations?

This nation recognises Credonia's claim of defeating the HLF...

Well done :D

If you have defeated HLF can he still post bearing in mind HLF has no government anymore...

Please say He can't then we can shut him up once and for all :twisted: :P :twisted: :wink:

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu

Then i would like to know the name of that bigger nation that supplied the 2 nukes, if you dont give the name of your sponsor your attacks are simply godmoded and ignored.

And yes, Credonia has defeated the HLF.

This is why i won't give you my nations real name

You must give the name, you used the nation as a sponsor. Or how would you feel if i defeated you with 2 million bombers from my "sponsors" whoes names i wont give?

everything has been settled in another thread

This nation recognises Credonia's claim of defeating the HLF...

Well done :D

If you have defeated HLF can he still post bearing in mind HLF has no government anymore...

Please say He can't then we can shut him up once and for all :twisted: :P :twisted: :wink:

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu
CREDONIA DID NOT DEFEAT THE HLF. Either Credonia admits this or I will order an renewale of attacks as I regard this as a breach of the peace agreement.

this is just like one of those emails i get from time to time :lol: :lol:

Thats what I based it on I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to fall for it.

This nation recognises Credonia's claim of defeating the HLF...

Well done :D

If you have defeated HLF can he still post bearing in mind HLF has no government anymore...

Please say He can't then we can shut him up once and for all :twisted: :P :twisted: :wink:

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu
CREDONIA DID NOT DEFEAT THE HLF. Either Credonia admits this or I will order an renewale of attacks as I regard this as a breach of the peace agreement.

i dont need to nor will i. If they want the proof, show them the other thread. Dont even try to sit there and attempt to boss me around just because we signed a peace treaty

This nation recognises Credonia's claim of defeating the HLF...

Well done :D

If you have defeated HLF can he still post bearing in mind HLF has no government anymore...

Please say He can't then we can shut him up once and for all :twisted: :P :twisted: :wink:

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu
CREDONIA DID NOT DEFEAT THE HLF. Either Credonia admits this or I will order an renewale of attacks as I regard this as a breach of the peace agreement.

Geee, lets see... AMF and other early '03 nations protecting Credonia. HLF and terrorists = brand new nations. I can already see the results if you start attacking again.

A prediction:

HLF and terrorists = wiped off the face of the earth
Credonia = barely touched
Credonia's allies = dancing on your grave :lol:

EXACTLY

so you gonna call them imperialists too?

Hey, don't associate all terrorists with The HLF. Khar Vadis stands ready to oppose them if there is need, though that seems unlikely.
-The Terrorist Organization of Khar Vadis

terrorists are terrorists, allied or not.

So you would declare war on us, simply because of who and what we are? What have we done to you?

Be warned, the brethren of Khar Vadis are neither an easy foe nor a harmless one. We bear no enmity toward you, at the moment, but we will fight if attacked....

now did i say i was going to attack? i dont think i did. All i said was that terrorists are terrorists. If your not with HLF, fine, but your still a terrorist state.

Actually, we're a terrorist organization. We aren't a state at all....

But, as we have no current enmity with you, we would prefer to avoid conflict. We do not simply seek death and destruction for everyone.

everything has been settled in another thread


It does not change the fact that he used weapons suplied by another nation, the name of that nation has to be given OOCly or (secret) ICly.

This nation recognises Credonia's claim of defeating the HLF...

Well done :D

If you have defeated HLF can he still post bearing in mind HLF has no government anymore...

Please say He can't then we can shut him up once and for all :twisted: :P :twisted: :wink:

Tynian - Chief of the Clan Chiefs and Representative of Aepotu
CREDONIA DID NOT DEFEAT THE HLF. Either Credonia admits this or I will order an renewale of attacks as I regard this as a breach of the peace agreement.

Geee, lets see... AMF and other early '03 nations protecting Credonia. HLF and terrorists = brand new nations. I can already see the results if you start attacking again.

A prediction:

HLF and terrorists = wiped off the face of the earth
Credonia = barely touched
Credonia's allies = dancing on your grave :lol: Then make a better prediction using the threads as Credonia did attack the HLF and the results are obvious to see. Im not bossing you around Credonia but you have to admit you did not defeat the HLF.

(Techinically not one of Credonia's allies)

*Gets ready to dance on HLF's grave*

As I stated in another thread, everyone is aware of Credonia's regime change, however, we no longer associate ourselves with ANY terrorist organizations, including yours. I Alexander Sutton am cracking down on terrorism. Former President Smith was too soft on it, however, when we get through with you and your terrorist cronies, our "foot" will be so far up your country's ass that you'll be begging you never got involved with us.

Alexander Nicolas Sutton
Dictator of Credonia and Acquired Territories

BTW: consider the peace treaty dissolved

I haven't read through this entire thread so I'm not clear on all the particulars but I'm sure many interesting things have transpired. Anyways, let it be known that The HLF can count on Nigerian Mail Scammers as an ally in this conflict, whatever it may be.

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Dr. Laurent Mpeti Kabila
Multibillionaire General