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Today two scientists accidently discoverd a Chemical weapon. What happens is the Gas when in contact with a air molecule will cause the molecule to collapse. And when it is in contact it modifys the molecule so it can pass to the next molecule.

However the Gas's extra property that makes it able to go onto the next molecule does run out.

It is very potent, a bit of it that is the size of the end of a pin is enough to fill a 5 meter room. Also it leaves around a product after it destroys the molecule, that obsorbs other molecules, but after a few years this dies out.

It turns the area into a void.

a void as in space?
jeeeees that is quite a weapon....

I suggest that you destroy all traces of this weapon including the research documents to preserve the future of humanity.

The plans have been put in a room with no door, and to protect the plans we have actually sprayed some of this stuff outside the room. The plans rest in an underground complex.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I'm interested to know how you can have a chemical reaction which leaves nothing. What happens to all the base elements? Where do they go? I can accept that they are broken down but on a molecular level where does that proton and neutron go? They can't simply not exist anymore if so I would like some because you have stuff there that alters the laws of physics

We forward the sugggestion to your nation, that you destroy this weapon of Mass Destruction. Either you do it, or we will, with a massive bombardment of the facility. That kind of weapon should not even exist.

I do not know anything about chemistry. But what happens is, it sucks all the air out of a area. And it leaves around something that eats away air(Similair to Radiation) and lasts for atleast a few years.

Very well the plans have been burnt.

sucks the air to where?

If something continous ate air for years on end there would be no air to breathe anywhere that is not its own biodome.

I do not know anything about chemistry. But what happens is, it sucks all the air out of a area. And it leaves around something that eats away air(Similair to Radiation) and lasts for atleast a few years.

So you also know nothing about the nature of radiation.

Yeah; destroy this weapon, and stick to creating stuff you understand.

something more realistic would be,....

(off top of head)

An anorobic bacteria that when exposed to air (speciffically the hydrogen and oxygen) begins a self replication proccess. The bactria oxidizes and releases a methane gas. The bacteria it'self can survive without oxygen or sunlight and can remain dormaint for an undeterminant amount of years.

bacteria + oxygen + hydrogen = more bacteria + methane

something more realistic would be,....

(off top of head)

An anorobic bacteria that when exposed to air (speciffically the hydrogen and oxygen) begins a self replication proccess. The bactria oxidizes and releases a methane gas. The bacteria it'self can survive without oxygen or sunlight and can remain dormaint for an undeterminant amount of years.

bacteria + oxygen + hydrogen = more bacteria + methane
Aha! A biologist? That is a good one; quite realistic.

Another interesting one would be a device which converts matter into energy... releasing enough energy to continue the process.
I'm not certain that would work, but if it did it could continue as long as there was matter in range of the explosion.

something more realistic would be,....

(off top of head)

An anorobic bacteria that when exposed to air (speciffically the hydrogen and oxygen) begins a self replication proccess. The bactria oxidizes and releases a methane gas. The bacteria it'self can survive without oxygen or sunlight and can remain dormaint for an undeterminant amount of years.

bacteria + oxygen + hydrogen = more bacteria + methane
Aha! A biologist? That is a good one; quite realistic.

Another interesting one would be a device which converts matter into energy... releasing enough energy to continue the process.
I'm not certain that would work, but if it did it could continue as long as there was matter in range of the explosion.


lol no I'm a 1st yr poli sci student at a small university, i dabble.

As for that device it could work because (in theory) if you have a high enough purity of antimatter it would absorb the matter and make more (less pure) anit matter until it got to a lower purity where it would become unstable and explode in the way we all know and love. If some how you could haul the impurities out of your growing anti-matter orb you'd have an ever consuming/expanding ball that'd stop only when it ran out of matter i.e. the vacuum of space

lol no I'm a 1st yr poli sci student at a small university, i dabble.

As for that device it could work because (in theory) if you have a high enough purity of antimatter it would absorb the matter and make more (less pure) anit matter until it got to a lower purity where it would become unstable and explode in the way we all know and love. If some how you could haul the impurities out of your growing anti-matter orb you'd have an ever consuming/expanding ball that'd stop only when it ran out of matter i.e. the vacuum of space

And you know little about antimatter, I suspect. An antimatter reaction nither yeilds more antimatter(atleast directly, and indirectly would be nothing signifigant), nor does it's reaction with matter result in a classic explosion, as most of the energy is released in the form of high-energy gamma rays, not thermal.

Aren't explosions kinetic energy rather than thermal?
Of course, adding fire makes it more interesting, but you can cause an explosion with dry ice if you want to.

The Gas wont keep passing through and eating the air away. The property in it that allows it to continue through the air runs out after a while. And it leaves behind a property that keeps eating air (Radiation).

The original idea sounds like the oxygen destroyer from the original Godzilla film, but with extras.

How did the Oxygean destroyer work? I know when Serizawa put it in a fish tank all of the fish died.

It was all made up rather than true physics. Basically you put it in water and it somehow collapsed the oxygen molecules (or released them from water which would explain all the fizzing and bubbling) and the molecules of anything in the water. Its used as the final resort which kills Godzilla

A nuke releases heat, which basicly flashes surrounding air and other stuff into superheated plasma; that expands and you get a boom. An antimatter reaction releases most of it's energy as high-energy gamma rays, which pass through matter without alot of interaction for energy transfer, resulting in, if anything, a small boom and alot of nasty rads. Not to mention you get a few orders of magnitude more bang for your buck with vinilla thermonukes.


And this 'chemical weapon' sounds like, I don't know, some kind of 'subatomic acid' breaking down nuclear bonds; but that would requior alot of fancy hardware and even more IC knowledge of quantum physics(say, far future tech), and a basic understanding of the science OOCly.

And you know little about antimatter, I suspect. An antimatter reaction nither yeilds more antimatter(atleast directly, and indirectly would be nothing signifigant), nor does it's reaction with matter result in a classic explosion, as most of the energy is released in the form of high-energy gamma rays, not thermal.

Well it's theory if I looked it up I'm sure I could make it sound plausible. :roll: the same arguement could be made against fusion right now the only way fusion is viable (meaning less energy to start the reaction then is recieved) is in an H bomb or very small scale. I really couldn't do anything in way of making the bacteria etheir but I was just shooting the shit

Mmmmm billions, trillion maybe of little fusion cells in a row to power my toaster mmmmm

The only problem with fusion is that current systems aren't sufficently efficent.

The problem with antimatter is a result of the very nature of the material and it's reacton with matter.

The only problem with fusion is that current systems aren't sufficently efficent.

The problem with antimatter is a result of the very nature of the material and it's reacton with matter.
Not to mention producing any large amount of it is very expensive and time-consuming...