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The Austar Union officially condemns The Burnsian Desert...

Austar Union
02-02-2004, 06:19
As a respectable member of the international community, I think it calls for me to condemn the actions of The Burnsian Desert government.

On their website, they openly claim to commit acts of piracy in Nationstates waters. We highly condemn these actions, and will state that our navy will begin attacks on TBD pirate forces if these evil acts are not ended. THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING.

Although we may be considered somewhat allied, we do not support the acts of piracy, which can be somewhat classified as terrorism.

The Burnsian Desert, you have 48 RL hours to end these acts of piracy and dismantle all pirate forces, or our navy will begin operations against all your pirate forces.
Gore_2004
02-02-2004, 06:24
The Gore Government supports the AU in this and our forces will attack any TBD commiting acts of piracy.This will not stand!
Verboten Lufftewaffe
02-02-2004, 06:47
The Region/Nations of the Federated Suns also endorses Austar Union's Challenge and will attach our 3rd Battle Fleet & 1st R.A.A Fleet to their Command for the Duration of these Pirate Activities......

3rd Carrier Battle Fleet

1 - Tyrannus Class CVN
4 - Nemesis Class CGN
5 - Centurion Class DDG
2 - Nightstalker Class DD
2 - Centurion Class FFG
2 - Wraith Class SSN
2 - AOE-6 Fast Combat Stores Ship
1 - T-AFS 1 Combat Stores Ship
1 - T-AO 187 Fleet Replenishment Oiler
24 - F-14D Tomcat
48 - F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
4 - EF-18F Electric Hornet
4 - E-2C Hawkeye
6 - S-3B Viking
2 - ES-3A Shadow
31 - SH-60B LAMPS III
6 - SH-60F Seahawk
2 - HH-60H
8 - CH-46 Sea Knight

1st Rapid Amphibious Assault Fleet

4 - Wraith Class SSN's
4 - Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers
4 - Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 - Zumwalt Destroyers
2 - Weathered Class Torpedo Boats
2 - Visby Class Corvettes
4 - Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 - Arsenal Ships
2 - Oliver Hazard Perry ASW Frigates


Archon Prince Brian King I
Arch Duke of Verboten Lufftewaffe
C.I.C of the A.F.F.S (Region/Nations of the Federated Suns)
CEO of A.F.F.S Storefronts Incorporated.
High Councilor to the Quorum of 12
Councilor Tertius of G.A.P.T.S
Proud Member/Ally of
A.R.M - Member
G.A.P.T.S - Member
Legion of Defense - Member
N.N.A - Allied
I.A.D.F - Allied
AR - Allied

A.F.F.S Storefront Corporate HQ...Division of A.R.M (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120413/)
A.F.F.S Navalyard Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117539/)
A.F.F.S Artillery/Armor/Mechanized Storefront Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117540/)
A.F.F.S Airpower Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117541/)
A.F.F.S Firearms Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117544/)
A.F.F.S General Purpose Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112968/)
A.F.F.S Edged Weapons Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118060/)
02-02-2004, 06:57
The Incorporated States of Exonerate agrees with Austar Union. Before, they pilliaged Guatamala, and the only reason our nation did not take action was because we were then preparing for a possible war. However, now that that has ended, we have given all our ships orders to fire on sight when they spot ships belonging to Burnsian Desert.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:13
Well, well, well.........

Some nations are finally waking up to the fact that TBD is, and has been, nothing but a thorn in the side of NS from it's inception. They are pirates, purveyors of nuclear weapons, have a storefront and a web-site.......and all of 3 weeks old!

Xeraph warned them almost 2 weeks ago that if they thought they could attack and board MY fleet with their "pirates" that they should go ahead and try......would be an amusing battle.

Of course, we commit the full resources of ARM to any conflict that should arise concerning TBD. We have deployed the naval forces of the nation of Darkwing Vampyres, the ground forces of the Tao Tribe. and the Tactical air support of the nations of the Twisted Clan, the Knights of Hell,
and the Gardens of Death.

Totals: 6 Nimitz Class Carriers
3 Broadside Battleships
2 Ice Storm Battle Cruisers
5 Virginia Class Subs

50 F18 Hornets
50 Su-37 Migs
50 F22 Raptors
6 B2 Bombers
3 B3 Bombers

150,000 Armored Troopers

Various landing craft, howitzers, and tanks.

All are at stand-by mode, ready to move into TBD if necessary.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, IADF, AR, IA, FS, GAPTS
Dr_Twist
02-02-2004, 07:15
The Government of Dr_Twist has a Military Base in TBD that is classed as Dr_Twist Sovereign land....
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:26
Dr. Twist, old friend, we of course will not infringe on your sovreignty. Xeraph and ARM will assit you if requested to ensure that no one will mistake your soil for that of TBD.

respectfully,

Alaric
Dr_Twist
02-02-2004, 07:29
Dr. Twist, old friend, we of course will not infringe on your sovreignty. Xeraph and ARM will assit you if requested to ensure that no one will mistake your soil for that of TBD.

respectfully,

Alaric

TBD has gotten on a lot of Country Nerves as of late, I have Conquered the Country once and are considering Conquering it again to install a World Wide Friendly government.
02-02-2004, 07:35
Auster Union, Stand Down, TBD is A CLOSE ALLIED NATION to The People. We trust them in their actions, though sometimes idiotic as everyone can be now and then.

However, since our patroling submarines in TBD waters have had some VERY close calls with wild pirating vessels, we RESPECTFULLY ask that The Burnsian Desert attempt to down the number of TBD Pirate Patrols in order to stabilze the tense situation.

Thank you,
Chief Socialist President Thomas Alexandri Ha'Goth
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:35
How about simply removing the leadership in a Twist/Xeraph coup and placing one of our hand-picked generals there?
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:39
Nodea Rudav, YOU stand down. We are in no mood to deal with yet another young nation with visions of greatness ( or would that be illusions of grandeur?).

I suggest that you abandon what little protection you can give TBD....you can't match Dr. Twist, ARM, and Austar Union in military preparedness.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:42
In response to a threatning situation, the USSNR has deployed assests of Sea Surface Units to better defend one of its Closest Comrade Brethren Allied Nations.


Peoples Socialist Defense Navy
Classified NRSS for Nodea Rudav Socialist Sea

-Sea Surface Units-
x1 Sverdlov class Battlecruiser
-NRSS Battle Warrior
-Status: Homeland Defense

x2 Bismarck Class Experimental Battleship
-NRSS New Bismarck-(Normal Verson)
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS New Tirpitz-(Improved Verson)
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x3 Dunkerque Class Heavy Battleship
-NRSS New Dunkerque
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Old Rudav
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Gladiator
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x5 Modified Iowa Class Battleships
-NRSS Independence
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Titan Defender
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Rudavia
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Peoples Might
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Peoples Voice
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x1 Orel Ul'yanovsk class Aircraft Carrier
-NRSS Trinity
-Status: Docked for Refit

x1 LHD-4 Alligator Experimental Assault Carrier
-NRSS Alligator
-Status: Docked

-Sea Submerged Units-
x4 Akula I-Improved Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliance
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Defiance
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Freedom
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Triton Guardius
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x2 Akula II Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliant
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Relentless
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters

x2 Oscar II Cruise Missle Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Socialist Protector
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Socialist Democracy
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x3 Oscar Cruise Missle Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Malatose
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Comrade Big Oscar
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Comrade Russia
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x4 Kilo Class Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Kilo
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Socialism
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Big Brethren
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Fat Kat the First
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x1 941 Typhoon Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Behemoth
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen for Refit

x4 667BDRM Dolphin DELTA IV Nuclear ICBM Missle Submarine
-NRSS Delta One
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Delta Two
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Delta Three
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen
-NRSS Delta Four
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen

x3 XS-02 Series Foxtrot-II Experimental Submarine
-NRSS Sea Fox
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Sea Vixen
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Foxtrot Three
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
Midlonia
02-02-2004, 07:43
Auster Union, Stand Down, TBD is A CLOSE ALLIED NATION to The People. We trust them in their actions, though sometimes idiotic as everyone can be now and then.

However, since our patroling submarines in TBD waters have had some VERY close calls with wild pirating vessels, we RESPECTFULLY ask that The Burnsian Desert attempt to down the number of TBD Pirate Patrols in order to stabilze the tense situation.

Thank you,
Chief Socialist President Thomas Alexandri Ha'Goth

:lol: :lol:
OOC:good luck in trying to take on their ships in your steam powered subs mate..... even i won't risk it and i am Dec03....

and that is such a GOD MOD navy for your size.....
02-02-2004, 07:44
We have stood down in too many prelamations, and shall NOT stand down now. We are tired of WARS and will DEFEND Our allies People with everything possible.....even.....even if it means going against other Close Allies...
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 07:44
Official Message from President Hoffman

"My ultimatum it seems has been slightly mistaken. My intentions are not in fact to invade TBD soverign soil, but to simply put his pirates out of commission through our navy operations. This will entail the sinking, and capturing of TBD pirate ships. If any ship belonging to TBD does not allow a full inspection by AU Navy Forces, they will be considered pirate, and will be shot and destroyed.

To the nation of Nodea Rudav, I suggest that for your own safety that you stand down. We are an ally also of TBD, however we have decided that we do not want to be aligned with pirates."
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:46
Well, Nodea Rudov, if you wish to have the other 80-plus nations of ARM join in stopping you, just say the word.
02-02-2004, 07:49
Message from the Office of Chief Socialist President Thomas Alexandri Ha'Goth

It is my intention to see that no weapons harm The People of our ally, and in tern as you are allied with TBD we will be better prepared to destroy any threats who try to attack our ally. However, full inspections of our ships will be allowed for us to deploy our forces in TBD waters to ensure they are protected as these Pirates are found and taken out.

Again, if this is true, You are not our enemy, and we will only patrol TBD waters to ensure their safety, as we are concerned not only for Their People, but as with their Brave Forces that Defend Their People.

Thank you, and again, inspection shall be allowed as a sign of peace and continued trusting relations.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 07:53
Nodea Rudav, your forces presense will only crowd the waters, and we request that you withdraw all forces from TBD waters. If they continue to remain, they will be fired upon. We do not need a watchdog getting in the way.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:53
From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR ARM Forces
To: Admiral Canning, CMDR ARM Naval Forces

You are hereby directed to deploy Nimitz Carriers to TBD waters. Ice Storm Battle Cruisers and Broadside Battleships will escort Carrier Group.
02-02-2004, 07:58
These forces will be the only "Watchdogs" to attend, and shall stay FAR from any action to ensure relations of allied defending nations continue to be peaceful. The Submarines have proper space to continue Normal Patrols of International Waters, and will begin patrols of other nations waters when they complete their current operations.



x2 Bismarck Class Experimental Battleship
-NRSS New Bismarck-(Normal Verson)
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS New Tirpitz-(Improved Verson)
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x3 Dunkerque Class Heavy Battleship
-NRSS New Dunkerque
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Old Rudav
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Gladiator
-Status: Heading for Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 07:58
From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR ARM Forces
To: Lt. Colonel BuBois, CMDR Air Force

You are hereby ordered to scramble Hornets, Migs, and Raptors to patrol TBD air-space. Any aggression against ARM forces will be considered an act of war, and you are directed to destroy at will.

Targets include any TBD units, as well as units of Nodea Rudov.
02-02-2004, 08:00
[code:1:b61cce266b]Allied Defense Operations Ships / Ensure that jets hovering over are not considered hostile / They wish only defense and assurity of their claim as a Power / Allow them to patrol at will[/code:1:b61cce266b]
02-02-2004, 08:07
The Kingdom of Vendhaya has deployed it's air force and navy to the conflict brewing off TBD. As a member of ARM, we will not tolerate any hostile acts against ARM allies.

400 Su-27 Migs en-route to skies over TBD, standard FAN deployment.


Nimrod, King of Vendhaya
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:08
Xeraph, as leader of these operations I order your units to stand down. No attacks will be made on TBD soil. Only pirate forces will be targets of these operations, unless TBD declares war.

The following forces are moving to TBD waters. They will enter the waters WITHOUT TBD permission.

Destroyers
30 X Farragut Class Guided-Missle Destroyer

Battleships
40 X Iowa Class Battleship

Submarines
20 X Los Angeles Class Submarine

TBD Forces will follow these rules:

1) AU Forces have full control over TBD waters.
2) All TBD forces must comply with AU Navy orders
3) All pirates must abandon their ships to AU Forces

If your forces do not comply, AU Navy Forces will fire and sink TBD Ships.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 08:15
Austar Union, with all due respect, we will not stand down. We are not going to attack unless attacked. We of ARM, like many nations, are fed up with the foolishness of TBD, and we seek what you do........disbanding of their pirate ships.

Again, with all respect, please do not think that you can order ARM to do anything. We are not going to stand down, and , as a matter of fact, have several more ARM nations on their way with naval, air and ground forces to ensure pirates are destroyed.

This can end peacefully..all we want are those pirates. If YOU want to be the one's to destroy them, be our guest. But rest assured, they WILL be destroyed.
Verboten Lufftewaffe
02-02-2004, 08:17
My Ships are there to assist AU with the piracy problem that TBD endorses....If any of my ships are fired upon by NR whilst performing there duties for AU....Then i will have no conpunction with crawling up your ass with my naval fleets....Don't get me wrong i have enough ships sitting in my navalyards awaiting buyers to make up for any losses i may incur.....
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:18
We respect your right to continue your own operations. We apoligise for appearing to be so headstrong.
02-02-2004, 08:23
Nodea Rudav, YOU stand down. We are in no mood to deal with yet another young nation with visions of greatness ( or would that be illusions of grandeur?).

I suggest that you abandon what little protection you can give TBD....you can't match Dr. Twist, ARM, and Austar Union in military preparedness.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

How Ironic you say that.

Everyone, stand down, lets resolve this peacefully. I suggest more time for her to respond, RL things happen, and not everyone can make it to the forums everyday. Plus, she is not raiding any of you, or any NS nation at that, I believe, and has only conducted one raid in the last couple of RL weeks. Do not go to war over something so pointless, resolve this peacefully.

Xeraph, you have NO reason to move in on TBD's soverign soil, back off now!

If you don't like TBD's posts, IGNORE her, don't start a war.
Spider Death
02-02-2004, 08:24
The Theocracy of Spider Death sends the following to assist ARM forces in the waters off TBD:

3 Kirov-Class Heavy missile ships, 76 missiles each ship

3 Alaska-Class Battle Cruisers, 61 missiles each

10 Sumner-Class Destroyers



Lord Arackh, Spirit King
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 08:29
Well well, Horizon Island.

Glad to see your'e still sticking your nose in where it's not needed.

As stated, we have no intention of invading. TBD isn't worth losing any of our forces over, but we will not stand for piracy, and several other nations evidently feel the same way.

Again, we will not attack unless attacked......by anyone.
02-02-2004, 08:33
Horizon Island presents the following to ensure a peaceful end to this.

HI's Points for TBD Piracy Treaty:
-TBD is a soverign nation, all nations will withdraw their troops to international waters
-TBD will call back all it's pirates during negotiations
-Delegates will meet unarmed, to discuss the matter
-A peaceful comprimise WILL be reached, without any lose of life
-No forign forces will enter TBD, and no pirates will leave TBD, effective immediatly
-Forign nations may not demand the death of any pirate members, as they are assumed to be acting under orders
-The current TBD gov't will remain in power
-All nations must abide by the deal struck, indeffinatly
-No shots will be fired, no military forces brought to bare against anyone
-Both sides must be some-what satisfied in the end deal
-The negotiations will take place in the neutral territory or Horizon Island
-Any attempts to harm any delegate present will result in the arrest and prossible exicution of the attacker

This is my proposal, take it seriously, it is very valid. Ignoring it completely will be considered warmongering.
02-02-2004, 08:35
Well well, Horizon Island.

Glad to see your'e still sticking your nose in where it's not needed.

As stated, we have no intention of invading. TBD isn't worth losing any of our forces over, but we will not stand for piracy, and several other nations evidently feel the same way.

Again, we will not attack unless attacked......by anyone.

I have interests in TBD, and if I am sticking my nose where it's not needed, than so are you. This involves me more than it involves you.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:41
Horizon Island, your treaty is unacceptable. You are pretty much asking us to leave things be.

I submit a treaty to be signed:

1) TBD is a soverign nation, all nations will withdraw their troops to international waters
2) The current TBD gov't will remain in power
3) All nations must abide by the deal struck, indeffinatly
4) No shots will be fired, no military forces brought to bare against anyone
5) TBD is to disband all Pirate Forces and end all acts of piracy
6) TBD is to repay all stolen goods/worth
02-02-2004, 08:42
Horizon Island, your treaty is unacceptable. You are pretty much asking us to leave things be.

I submit a treaty to be signed:

1) TBD is a soverign nation, all nations will withdraw their troops to international waters
2) The current TBD gov't will remain in power
3) All nations must abide by the deal struck, indeffinatly
4) No shots will be fired, no military forces brought to bare against anyone
5) TBD is to disband all Pirate Forces and end all acts of piracy
6) TBD is to repay all stolen goods/worth

That was not my treaty, but points on how the negotiations for the formation of a treaty should be conducted. The treaty would have to be negotiated on and agreed to by both sides for it to be valid.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:46
This treaty is non-negotiable. If it is not signed, we will begin operations against TBD Pirates.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 08:50
It involves me because my close ally, Dr. Twist, has a base on an island in TBD waters, and was concerned about pirate activity against it.

We will not stand down.

Do whatever you think best.

Warmongering, indeed.....
02-02-2004, 08:53
This treaty is non-negotiable. If it is not signed, we will begin operations against TBD Pirates.

That is problematic. There must be some compermise! Each side MUST give a little. My proposal:

-All forign forces pull out of TBD area
-TBD dismantles her pirate forces and repays 50% of the stolen money and goods
-This matter will be considered closed, any nation that brings it up again as a reason for penalties or military action will be ignored.

This is a little more fair. Each side gives a little, and gets a fair amount of what they want. In politics, you MUST be willing to compromise like this.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:53
Warmongering? I dont think so. This isnt a war. This is a method to end TBD piracy.
02-02-2004, 08:55
It involves me because my close ally, Dr. Twist, has a base on an island in TBD waters, and was concerned about pirate activity against it.

We will not stand down.

Do whatever you think best.

Warmongering, indeed.....

Where did he say that? I sure as hell never saw that.

AU, and everyone, read my post above.

In situations like this, you MUST give some leway.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 08:55
This treaty is non-negotiable. If it is not signed, we will begin operations against TBD Pirates.

That is problematic. There must be some compermise! Each side MUST give a little. My proposal:

-All forign forces pull out of TBD area
-TBD dismantles her pirate forces and repays 50% of the stolen money and goods
-This matter will be considered closed, any nation that brings it up again as a reason for penalties or military action will be ignored.

This is a little more fair. Each side gives a little, and gets a fair amount of what they want. In politics, you MUST be willing to compromise like this.

No. TBD must pay 100% of all stolen goods. Dont make me make the treaty harsher.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 08:56
It may be considered closed by Horizon, but not ARM.

We stand with Austar Union: pirates will be destroyed if not summarily, and quickly, disbanded. We don't care about reparations.
02-02-2004, 08:58
Fine, you wish to go to war over something so stupid, be my guest. But at least give TBD a couple more days to respond. Not everyone can afford to spend 24/7 on the internet.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 09:00
Please see Dr. Twist posts page 1....he is considering conquering TBD in order to end ALL TBD foolishness.

He obviously feels the necessity of defending himself against TBD's piracy, among other things.
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 09:01
We are talking about 6 Million Dollars difference here!

It is not the money, its the principal.

TBD will not suffer any concequences of piracy. She just has to disband her pirate forces.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 09:03
OK, ARM hasn't any problem with TBD answering the charges against them. ARM forces will remain in area until situation is remedied.

<OOC> I'm going to bed. see you guys later
02-02-2004, 09:03
Please see Dr. Twist posts page 1....he is considering conquering TBD in order to end ALL TBD foolishness.

He obviously feels the necessity of defending himself against TBD's piracy, among other things.

I don't see how you can get that out of his post. Wishful thinking for a justification prehaps. Dr_Twist is allied with TBD, and an old nation, why would he fear anything from TBD?
Austar Union
02-02-2004, 09:08
The Burnsian Desert:

I have made a change to the treaty to be signed. Here is the new treaty:

[code:1:9bcac1e478]
1. All allied forces to leave The Burnsian Desert
2. The Burnsian Desert to disband all pirate forces
3. The Burnsian Desert to dis-commense all pirate activity
4. 100% of all stolen goods to be returned, or money repayments of the same value. (comes to about 12 Million Dollars)
5. 500 Million Dollars from the AU Treasury to be paid to The Burnsian Desert for complying with this treaty
[/code:1:9bcac1e478]
Dr_Twist
02-02-2004, 09:54
The Dr_Twist Government has Requested GAPTS Nations be Begin Deployment of Military Forces to TBD but not to Violate Air space and Nation Sovereign.

The Dr_Twist Government has Order 4 Million Troops to the Dr_Twist Base in TBD with 3 Fleets and 4 Air force Divisions.

Nodea Rudav Has been ordered to stand down, from his Position in the Conflict.
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 10:36
I would just like to note that any agreement with TBD made her will only apply to nations submiting to the agreement and not all nations in the world.

Iuthia will not forget acts of piracy nor random invasions of other nations, until this nation make reparations which I'm happy with I will not take them down from the black list...

However, I'm not threatening them... though currently I have trade embargoes in place which will not be removed until I feel they have settled down from their agressive policies.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 11:48
ARM/GAPTS forces will remain in just outside of TBD area until situation rectified.
The Burnsian Desert
02-02-2004, 12:35
You will not sink my ships. Nodea Rudav, put "THe Signal" whicha has been TG'd, on your ships.
Verboten Lufftewaffe
02-02-2004, 15:47
http://store2.yimg.com/I/imapsusa_1779_1481097


Looks like his raising his colors Captain.....Sound General Quarters
Credonia
02-02-2004, 15:57
While credonia does not wish to get itself into an armed conflict over this matter at this time, we give our moral support to our ally Austar Union and will provide them with aircraft free of charge should they need it.
Xeraph
02-02-2004, 23:59
OK, TBD, youv'e had ample chance to do the right thing, i.e. disband the Pirate Fleet. Youv'e had the opportunity to repay those who were affected by your piracy. And youv'e had several nations that actually felt the need to defend you, despite the error of your ways.

I don't give a rat's ass about any "signal" that you, Nodea Rudov, or anybody else put on my ships. Means nothing; probably some stupid future tech thing that neither of you could possibly have.

Here's what is going to happen: you will disband your Pirate Fleet, in it's entirety, by mid-night tonight. You will post how many ships are in the Pirate Fleet, so that all may know the total amount. If in the future, I hear about any pirates or other out-law type behaviour, I will destroy TBD in it's entirety, and any ally of yours that gets in the way, ditto.

If you don't disband by midnight, at 1 minute after midnight, ARM will begin sinking your ships, and will not discriminate between pirates and others....will sink them all.

Please don't force ARM to do this.....you and your allies can't stand against ARM and IT'S allies.


Alaric, representative to ARM
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 01:03
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 01:03
Look Xeraph, I really like you. You have detrmination and a great deal of confidence, but not too much too be overzealous. But I have to tell you something. What the hell would I do without a navy? I'd be obliterated. Completely. Piracy is my mian source of income. I'm sorry if the dictator installed by InH and ImH broke the LoD thing, but I couldn't help it. I am really sorry.

REASONS I CANNOT DO THESE THINGS:

1) NAVY: That's pretty much my entire military. my protective force.

2) If I gave that $$$ back, it would cause a Depression, as that is my mian source of income. I would happily repair the no houses damaged and 3 ships sank in my raids. But that $500 million... inflation.
03-02-2004, 01:13
03-02-2004, 01:14
Official Announcement from Peoples Socialist Defense Force

In response to the outragous actions of Comrade Brethren Allies, expect that of TBD who has only done the wrong of ALLOWING a piracy, the USSNR is going to Full Alert and will deploy all assest to Defend The Burnsian Desert from all other Comrade Brethren Allies.

In response, we shall list the status of all our armed forces:

Peoples Socialist Defense Navy
Classified NRSS for Nodea Rudav Socialist Sea

-Sea Surface Units-
x1 Sverdlov class Battlecruiser
-NRSS Battle Warrior
-Status: Homeland Defense

x2 Bismarck Class Experimental Battleship
-NRSS New Bismarck-(Normal Verson)
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS New Tirpitz-(Improved Verson)
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Union
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Carolina
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Tulvania
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Ruthan
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x3 Dunkerque Class Heavy Battleship
-NRSS New Dunkerque
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Old Rudav
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Gladiator
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters

x5 Modified Iowa Class Battleships
-NRSS Independence
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Titan Defender
-Status: Allied Defense Operations in TBD Waters
-NRSS Rudavia
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Peoples Might
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Peoples Voice
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x1 Orel Ul'yanovsk class Aircraft Carrier
-NRSS Trinity
-Status: Docked for Refit

x1 LHD-4 Alligator Experimental Assault Carrier
-NRSS Alligator
-Status: Docked

-Sea Submerged Units-
x4 Akula I-Improved Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliance
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Defiance
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Freedom
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Triton Guardius
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x2 Akula II Nuclear Attack Submarine
-NRSS Reliant
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Relentless
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters

x2 Oscar II Cruise Missle Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Socialist Protector
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Socialist Democracy
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x3 Oscar Cruise Missle Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Malatose
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Comrade Big Oscar
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Comrade Russia
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x4 Kilo Class Submarine
-NRSS Comrade Kilo
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Socialism
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Big Brethren
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Fat Kat the First
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x1 941 Typhoon Nuclear Submarine
-NRSS Behemoth
-Status: Docked at Sub-Pen for Refit

x4 667BDRM Dolphin DELTA IV Nuclear ICBM Missle Submarine
-NRSS Delta One
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Delta Two
-Status: Patrolling TBD Waters
-NRSS Delta Three
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Delta Four
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

x3 XS-02 Series Foxtrot-II Experimental Submarine
-NRSS Sea Fox
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Sea Vixen
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters
-NRSS Foxtrot Three
-Status: Defense Operations in Nodea Rudav Coastal Waters

Peoples Socialist Defense Army
Classified Battle, Assault, Command, Troop Support, Artillery and Battle Assault Tanks.

-Troops- 800,000 (400,000 in Socialist Defense Reserve)

-Armored Units-
--Battle Tanks
x280 T-55AM Battle Tanks
x240 T-62MK Battle Tanks
x280 T-64B1 Battle Tanks
x280 T-84 Battle Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Main Battle Tanks:

x420 M60A3 Main Battle Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Classified Battle Tanks

x80 T-80UM2? "Black Eagle"
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Battle Assault Tanks

x140 M1A2 Abrams Battle Assault Tanks
x280 T-72BV Battle Assault Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Command Tanks

x140 T-90K Command Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Support/Troop Support Tanks

x200 M551A1 Troop Support Tanks
x180 M3A3 Bradely Troop Support Tanks
x420 BMP-2E Troop Support Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

--Main Artillery Tanks

x150 M109A6 Paladin Main Artillery Tanks
Status: Full Alert, in assigned divisions

Peoples Socialist Defense Air Force
Classified Fighter, Attacker, Fighter/Attacker, Intercepter, Bomber, Intercepter/Bomber, Tactical Fighter, and Supreme Tactical Fighter

-Military Aircraft-
x80 Su-27 Flanker (SUKHOI)
x80 Su-25 Frogfoot Grach (Rook)
x40 Su-24 Fencer (SUKHOI)
x80 MiG-31 Foxhound (MIKOYAN-GUREVICH)
x40 MiG-27 Flogger D, J (MIKOYAN-GUREVICH)
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x80 F-4 Phantom II
x80 F-14 Tomcat
x80 AV-8B Harrier Attack Planes-20 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x140 F-16 Fighting Falcon
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x40 B-52 Stratofortress
x45 AC-130H Spectre Gunship
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x40 C-141B Starlifter
x40 KC-135R Stratotanker
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x40 F/A-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter
x40 F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter
x20 B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber
x5 SR-71 Blackbird Spy Planes
x40 B-1B Lancer
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x20 Beriev A-50 Mainstay
x40 E-2C Hawkeye
x20 E-3 Sentry (AWACS)
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

-[i]Rotary Military Aircraft[i]-
x80 Mi-35 Hind E
x80 Mi-17 HIP H
x100 Mi-14 Haze
x14 UH-1N Huey Helicopter-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x40 AH-1W Super Cobra-14 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x40 RAH-66 Comanche
x80 AH-64 Apache
x100 UH-1 Huey Helicopter
x14 UH-1N Huey Helicopter-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

x8 SH-60 LAMPS MK III Seahawk(ASW Helicopter)-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x80 V-22 Osprey
x80 H-3 Sea King
x14 CH-53 Sea Stallion-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x14 MH-53E Sea Dragon-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x14 MH-53J Pave Low III-4 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
x14 CH-46E Sea Knight-2 stationed on LHD-4 Alligator
Status: Either Patroling assigned USSNR areas or On Ground, Ready

I am sorry to all our Comrade Brethren, but we must do this to ensure no one starts a war.

However, troops are being sent Via C130 Hercules Transports to land at TBD air ports. These will ensure our status at protecting our allies is ensured.
Dr_Twist
03-02-2004, 01:34
Nodea Rudav is Ordered to Stand down at once this is your last warning.

The TBD Government has always Threatened world Peace and time has come to install a new Stable Government that will no Longer threaten World peace.
03-02-2004, 01:35
Well, Nodea Rudov, if you wish to have the other 80-plus nations of ARM join in stopping you, just say the word.

You have THAT many puppets?!? :lol:
Dr_Twist
03-02-2004, 01:42
Well, Nodea Rudov, if you wish to have the other 80-plus nations of ARM join in stopping you, just say the word.

You have THAT many puppets?!? :lol:

You might wanna be careful where you step in future.
Verboten Lufftewaffe
03-02-2004, 01:55
Eredron
03-02-2004, 03:30
Eredron
03-02-2004, 03:32
The Confederated Republic of Eredron is announcing its intention to intervene in this military conflict; it is the objective of the Eredron government to immediately bring this dispute to a close by acting as a mediator for all sides involved.

It is the desire of Eredron that military action be brought to an immediate cessation, allowing all sides to enter into immediate diplomatic negotiations.
03-02-2004, 03:50
Xeraph,
I request you back down immediatly. There is a diplomatic way around this, actually a quite simple way. Here is my treaty:

-TBD will promise never to commit piracy again, but will keep the ships as a defense force.
-I will pay back the damages that TBD caused, 12 million dollars is nothing.
-All nations in TBD waters will move away.
-All nations threatening military action against TBD will stand down.
-All nations concerned will stop bringing this up as a point to attack TBD.

TBD, please accept this treaty. We can enter into trade negotiations so your economy won't be hurt. I'm sure your nation has something we want.

Oh by the way Xeraph, I also urge you to consider this treaty, it is very reasonable to all parties.
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 04:00
Accapted...
Now where will I get my economy from?...
03-02-2004, 04:12
Well, Nodea Rudov, if you wish to have the other 80-plus nations of ARM join in stopping you, just say the word.

You have THAT many puppets?!? :lol:

You might wanna be careful where you step in future.

And just what is that supposed to mean? :roll: Seriously, what DOES it mean? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense....
03-02-2004, 04:33
Accapted...
Now where will I get my economy from?...

Well what excess resources do you have. Or if not, what manufactered products do you make. In short, what do you have that my nation, or another could use?
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 05:06
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 05:06
RESOURCES:
=Uranium.
=Wood. Lots of wood.
=Coal, maybe, still looking.
=Iron.
=Fish.

MANUFACTURED PRODUCTS
=Playing Cards.
=Ships.
=Weapons, usually light arms.
=AMBSDS.
=Food Processing.
=Fancy Cars. (Protection(R) Dealers)
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 05:23
ARM is perfectly willing to setle this peacefully. Just get rid of the pirate ships. Very simple. ARM doesn't care about anything else.

It is 11:19 PM, EST. That means, as stated in a previous post, there are 41 minutes left for TBD to comply to ARM demands.

Midnight.......
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 05:25
We won't get rid of them... we just won't use them for pirating purposes.

ADDED: Are you going to invade me when my forces are down? :evil:
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 05:43
ARM is not invading TBD. Just sinking pirate ships, and if we can't determine which of your ships are pirare or non-pirate, then we'll sink them all.
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 05:47
ARM needs incontravertable proof that TBD pirate ships are ceasing activities. If you publically post that you will not from this day forward employ pirates as part of your governmental make-up, ARM will stand down.

11:44 PM..............16 minutes.
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 05:55
The following nations of ARM are deploying to TBD waters. These are in addition to existing ARM forces:

The Free Lands of Uber Extitia
The People's Republic of Carthuzya
The Commonwealth of the Black Legions
The Dominion of the Demonic Hordes
The Republic of the 12th Circle
The Borderlands of Orvontonn
The Confederacy of the War Kings


This combined Armada is comprised of 87 Battleships, 22 Carriers with full fighter complement of 80 fighters each, 155 Destroyers, and our complete contingent of B1-B, B2, and B2-B bombers.


It's 11:55..........5 minutes............
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 05:57
Get. The. Heck. Out. Of. My. Country. WHAT CAN I PROVE TO YOU?? MY PIRATE SHIPS ARE NOT PIRATES ANYMORE!! GO AWAY!
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:01
Not good enough...........official language is required for compliance.

11:57........3 minutes

Don't doubt me, TBD.
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 06:03
"No longer is the Navy of TBD a pirate one."
03-02-2004, 06:04
Maybe you should use that armada to deal with Macabees, which is a more direct trhreat to you, Xeraph?
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 06:05
Do me a favor... don't ask for me to update the web site now... it's midnight...
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:06
From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR ARM Forces
To: Commanders AIr Force, Naval Forces

We are to be ready for one of two eventualities in approx 2 minutes.

Either we are going to stand down attacks on TBD pirate vessels, or we will commence sinking of pirate fleet.

Any nation that interferes with ARM/TBD situation will be fired upon.
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 06:07
I backed down for your own good Xeraph... it's not the equipment, it's the training.
03-02-2004, 06:08
The Macabees is OPENLY attacking your ships. I propose that you take military action against them instead of against TBD, which you have yet to verify of any activity.
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:08
We do not consider Maccabees an enemy. They have never done anything to us, and we wish them nothing but good luck.
03-02-2004, 06:11
Never done anything to you?



http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120889






RIGHT THERE. Open declaration of hostilities against your merchant marine.
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:11
As we stated on the other thread, whoever is flying the flag of Xeraph are imposters. Xeraph has no merchant fleet, so whoever it is Maccabees is firing on are the one's affected.
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:16
To all ARM Forces,

TBD has aquiesed to ARM demands.
They have once again backed down from an aggressive stance.

All air and naval forces are ordered to stand down as regards pirate situation.

All air and naval forces will withdraw to point 35 miles from TBD territorial waters until further notice.

Diplomatic Team en route to TBD for confirmation of cessation of hostilities and inspection of former pirate vessels.


Gen. Strickland, CMDR ARM Forces
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 06:17
I'd prefer if you didn't belittle me. :evil:
Xeraph
03-02-2004, 06:27
We don't particularly care what you'd prefer.
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 06:33
TBD website updated - no pirates: http://www.freewebs.com/theburnisandesert/
03-02-2004, 07:02
Our government congragulates the Burnsian Desert's actions to avoid conflict and pursue a more peaceful source of income. As a reward, we have wired 500 million to your Treasury.
The Burnsian Desert
03-02-2004, 07:05
That's really not neccessary, but thank you!
Austar Union
03-02-2004, 09:11
The Burnsian Desert, we congratulate you on surcumming to our demands, and ending piracy for good. If there are reports with proof that your nation does commit acts of piracy again, consider the Republic of Austar Union at war with your government, to replace a new leadership.
Dr_Twist
03-02-2004, 09:36
We congratulate TBD for taken the necessary actions for there nations, we also thank our ally Xeraph to taking the necessary actions for the alliance while i was away.

Congratulations to both of you. 8)
04-02-2004, 00:44
Alright, I guess that means you have accepted my treaty, so $12 million of my own wired to whoever was hurt by TBDs piracy.

TBD,
To replace your income we will take a shipment worth $12 million every 3 (NS) months of:
Weapons
Uranium
Wood
And a few fancy cars