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TBD State Dinner Thread

The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 04:58
Welcome to the TBD State Dinner. We will be serving dinner later, please make yourselves at home in the lounge.

http://www.gramercymansion.com/aerial.jpg
Overhead View

http://www.danciprari.com/images/worldtrip/amazon/ka-arrival-small-plane-second-kristen-600.jpg
Airstrip

http://homepages.wwc.edu/staff/rittga/Yosemite/YosAhwahneeHall.jpg
Dinner Room

http://www.homestaywa.tpg.com.au/images/cityviewlounge.jpg
Lounge

Queen Romalia will be making her special announcement soon. Again, make yourselves confortable.
Belem
01-02-2004, 04:59
once again.
OOC:Also TBD im looking at your military page right now and you make no referened to any of your coastal defenses and you only have 300 home guardsmen.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 05:00
It just mingt NOT BE UPDATED...
Communist Rule
01-02-2004, 05:03
-A converted TU-160 Blackjack, a former supersonic strategic bomber roars overhead of TBD. Over the radio crackles a thick Russian accent, "TBD Control. Red One requests landing clearance." The plane begins its final preparations for landing.-

SECRET IC: The 6 KA-60s flying under radar coverage fly towards the TBD border. Intelligence back at the USSCR is surveying every possible strategic point via satellite.


OOC: TBD, you must announce what your borders have as defenses... And just so you're not paranoid, they aren't attacking.
Five Civilized Nations
01-02-2004, 05:09
Five Civilized Nations
01-02-2004, 05:12
(OOC: So whose the lucky guy?)

A 5CN government 7P7-300ER flew towards the nation of The Burnsian Desert escorted by a squadron of F-39P Assault Corsairs, carrying Prince Winston Crusade, uncle of the current king...

This is Five Civilized Nations Flight A3091 to Burnsian Desert control, requesting permission to enter airspace...
01-02-2004, 05:18
OOC:
Hey guys, how about keeping this in the other thread, this one's for the dinner.
IC:
President Karm Messner arrives in the Presidental jet escorted by a squadron of F-15 Eagles. The planes land at the air strip and he is driven in an armed motorcade to the location of the dinner. He walks into the lounge and bows to Queen Romalia. He straightens and smiles saying, "Congratulations Rachel on your choosing of a husband. We are all dying to know who the lucky man is."

OOC:
That being said, I have to go. Bye all!
Eriopia
01-02-2004, 05:22
Uhh can I please come to the dinner?
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 05:26
All flights are clear to land.

As the men and women in the lounge continue to chat and laugh, Queen Romalia quietly mounts a podium erected near the south side. She clears her throat and begins to talk.

Queen Rachel Romalia: "Welcome to The Burnsian Desert's first annual State Dinner!"

Everyone claps. A few seconds later, she raises up a gloved hand for silence.

Queen Rachel Romalia: "I know you all want to know who my groom-to-be is, so here goes. After careful consideration, I have selected Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly to be my husband. His bravery and intelligence helped me in this decision, and I thank all who courted me otherwise. Now for dinner!"
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 05:30
Uhh can I please come to the dinner?

Yes. No funny stuff.
Communist Rule
01-02-2004, 05:34
-The man and his comrade exit the plane, eventually arriving at the dinner late. The supersonic plane takes off and circles. At the dinner, the men converse about their recent annexation of their polar body, C R Enterprises.-

Secret: Meanwhile, the KA-60s have landed some 25 miles from the palace and await the call.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 05:50
OOC: What's "The Call"? I'm not liking this... :? bump.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 06:10
OOC: *Sputters* glugglug BUMP! glugglug
Jillland
01-02-2004, 06:22
King Donald Griffendorn exits the air plane with his royual guard. He wonders if he will meet any single ladies tonight. He enters the room and and looks for the queen to tell her how sorry he if fo being late.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 06:39
For the new couple, The Burnsian Construction Company has supplied a beatiful mansion, free of charge. It is overlooking The Big Bay. Here are some photos.

http://www.mahina.com/leg601/02LighthouseandGuestHouse.jpg
The outside of the house.

http://www.ci.rockville.md.us/glenview/foyer1.jpg
The foyer.

http://www.townsearch.com/tatterscot/seaside%20deck.jpg
Back Veranda.

http://www.cozumel.tc/FireworksCozumel/mansion-kitchen-1.jpg
Kitchen.
01-02-2004, 06:43
The Admiral arrives, and apologizes for being late. "There were important military issues to attend to, I apologize."

The Admiral congradulated his nephew, and took his seat. His gaurds, Naval Special Forces members, took seats as well. A further escort party gaurded the Admirals Seahawk.
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 06:48
The President apologises for his tardiness to the event, it will not happen again.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 06:49
It's alright, seriously... fasionably late. :)
Bedou
01-02-2004, 06:52
Sheik Mohammed Bin Aldeeb
Watched in the preceedings joyfully, Bedoins are of course renowed for their love of wedding and betrothal ceremonies.

Bin Aldeeb , had forgotten western customs and recieved odd looks from TBD security when he tried to enter the dinner with a scimitar and two pistols.
Luckily, one of the men in charge was familiar with desert customs, so he vouched for the integrity of Bedouin intent towards hospitality, and explained that most Bedouins would die before showing poor manners towards an invitation, so an actual Sheik would never disgrace his people by coming with violent intent towards a host after accepting an offer of peaceful discourse.
So Bin Aldeeb hid the pistols in the folds of his robes, the scimitar was however more difficult to hide, so he accepted a few odd looks.

He now waited for an oppertunity to present his gifts.
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:01
Presedent Adar of Goronkoth would like to be the first to step up and present the lovely couple with a gift. "Here is a Le-Matya. The national animal of Goronkoth. It is rare to have one outside of our country. We have provided you with only one due to the fact that we do not want to introduce a new animal to your ecosystem and destroy it. The le-matya is a female."
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:05
an univited, and extremly late guest walks up to the front gate. How he got there no one knows, and when asked he shruggs and states the obvious "I walked". He was dressed in a simple military uniform, with a non descript sabre hanging at his hip, which was relucantly given up at the security check-in. Everyone merely assumed that this was just a messenger or delegate. But after his photo ID was checked, it was revealed that he was God Emperor Dak Apollyon I himself, of the recently formed Holy Empire of Dakara. He is awkward and silent. This is obviously his first state dinner, and his first interaction with other leaders.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:07
The Queen walks up to God Emperor Dak Apollyon I, and strikes up a cheerful conversation.
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:13
"Welcome Emperor Dak. Sit near us" and with that, The president joind the conversation.
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:15
the emperor is pleasantly surprised that Her Royal Highness would talk to him, despite his dishevled appearance and his uninvited appearance to the event.

"i thank you. your highness, for honoring me with your presence. I have only been in power for two weeks now, and i'm afraid i'm not very knowledgeable about fancy dinners and such. "
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:15
"Welcome Emperor Dak. Sit near us" and with that, The president joind the conversation.
"Thank you mr. President, i think i will." with that he sits down and engages in his attempt at small talk.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:16
"Oh, I've been doing this for years and I'm only 15."

She smiled and lowered her voice.

"All you have to do is smile and nod your head :) "
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:18
"Well, we have all been there at one time or another. Some of us not so long ago as others."
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:19
"What do you mean?"
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:21
"i guess i jsut can't get away from the little peasant boy i used to be before the revolution, working in the factory" stares somewhat off into space, he looks troubled and introspective, as if remembering something he would rather forget "some of us jsut cannot escape our past... or our destiny"
Bedou
01-02-2004, 07:22
Bin Al Deeb, seeing that mingleling had begun decided that he had better speak to the queen before she too coaught up in her affairs.
He first approached this Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly
"Begging your pardon, Capt."
He spoke with a refined tone unexpected from his rough desert appearence, how bowed and flurished.
"I am Sheik Mohammed Bin Al Deeb of the Bedou, in my land it is customary for a man to ask permission of another man before addressing his wife or wife to be, even if she is a queen. May I? It is only to present her(and you) with the betrothal gifts from my people."
His face was leathery from the deserts and his hands were the callased hands of a man who knew hardship. To the Capt. the unchecked scimitar at the arab's hip was not formal, but functional, he wondered how charming this robed foreigner was to get through security with it, though it was not hidden so...
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:23
"It's nothing about you, it's just that we hold open elections, and our leaders are cycled out, so some of our leaders may not be as equipped for such occasions. Besides, it's just a friendly joke!"
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:23
"Soft subject? If it wasn't I would ask more about your childhood and the revoultion..."
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:26
"Madam, what do you think of the le-matya?"
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:28
"Le-Matya? What is that?"
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:28
"Soft subject? If it wasn't I would ask more about your childhood and the revoultion..."

"i would talk about the revolution, but you have other guests to attend to."

he looks at the bedouin, and wonders why he could not keep his sabre.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:30
OOC: Possible weapon. This is DEFCON 5. So that's a bad thang to carry around...

DEFCON 1: Guarded. All incoming shipments/aircraft are monitered. The lowest stae of alert at peacetime.

DEFCON 2: High Guard. The Queen is rarely seen in public. All incoming shipments/aircraft are monitered and searched. All foreign nationals have their picture taken.

DEFCON 3: The AMBSDS (Anti-Missile, Bomber, Spacecraft Defence Shield) is placed on full alert. All incoming shipments/aircraft are monitered and searched. The Queen is never seen in public. Anti-Aircraft weapons and roadblocks are set up. All foreign nationals have their picture taken.

DEFCON 4: The AMBSDS (Anti-Missile, Bomber, Spacecraft Defence Shield) is placed on full alert. All incoming shipments/aircraft are detained at the border and searched. The Queen and all government officials are sent to a bunker in an undisclosed location. Anti-Aircraft weapons and roadblocks are set up. All foreign nationals have their picture taken.

DEFCON 5: TBD has engaged in a war. The AMBSDS (Anti-Missile, Bomber, Spacecraft Defence Shield) is placed on full alert. All incoming shipments/aircraft are detained at the border. The Queen and all government officials are sent to a bunker in an undisclosed location. All TBD nuclear missile silos are put on full alert.
Anti-Aircraft weapons and roadblocks are set up. All foreign nationals have their picture taken.
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:30
"Well, my wife and I would like to know more about your revolution"
Bedou
01-02-2004, 07:31
OOC: I am RPing my Bedouin the through a different cultural stand point, the fact that have him educated doesnt mean he would automatically understand that while in his land it would be offensive for him to be unarmed, it is custom here. I thought it would be interesting to have a little harmelss cultural tension, a little reality.
IC:Al Deeb noted the soldier who seemed to be defering his conversation, he wondered why the man did not keep his sword.
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 07:31
OOC: I'm out for tonight... see ya in the morning guys...
Five Civilized Nations
01-02-2004, 07:34
Prince Winston's 7P7-300ER made a U-turn and headed back to the Magistrate Islands...
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:39
"Well, my wife and I would like to know more about your revolution"

"Mr. President and Madam, i shall tell you that which is bearable for me to speak of" "When I was a boy of 9 working in a automobile factory, it was evident that i was both mentally and physically quick, so i was put to work dodging in and out of the robotic arms, clearing the track of steel debris and other by products of manufacturing. Most children only survive a few weeks in this position, before they ended up welded to a door... but suffice to say, i survived." "Later, the village priest told my family that my talents were not becasue of genetics, but becasue of a gift from teh gods. it was prophesied that one such as me would come, and he would lead our people from subjugation into conquerors." "Before i knew it, i was no longer a village brat, a factory rat, i was a messiah, leading a revoltion. my only regret is that so many had to die"
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:44
"Most fascinating. We would love to keep in touch. Heck, I was just voted into office recently after a peaceful regime change. The previous leader, adictator, just decided to turn the country into a democracy, and here we are."
Goronkoth
01-02-2004, 07:52
"Also, we invite you to the celebration of our population hitting 500 million. We will be launching the last of our 12 battlestars, the Pacifica. It will be in orbit of Picon, the home of fleet headquarters to our nation, we will provide transport to our nation on colonial one the presidential ship."
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:55
"Also, we invite you to the celebration of our population hitting 500 million. We will be launching the last of our 12 battlestars, the Pacifica. It will be in orbit of Picon, the home of fleet headquarters to our nation, we will provide transport to our nation on colonial one the presidential ship."

"I would be honored Mr. President, i accept this invitation in the spirt in which it was given."
Dakara
01-02-2004, 07:57
OOC: it may surprise you that i actually know what a battlestar is.. in fact, i'm a big fan.
Dakara
01-02-2004, 08:05
"it is late and i must retire. please send a telegram when this event is to occur, i would not want to miss it" with that said, he walks out of the building. on the way out, he gives the bedouin a small nod.. a kind of non-salute that is a slaute, a gesture of respect that only a fellow warrior would understand. he then walks away into the night.
01-02-2004, 08:33
Bin Al Deeb, seeing that mingleling had begun decided that he had better speak to the queen before she too coaught up in her affairs.
He first approached this Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly
"Begging your pardon, Capt."
He spoke with a refined tone unexpected from his rough desert appearence, how bowed and flurished.
"I am Sheik Mohammed Bin Al Deeb of the Bedou, in my land it is customary for a man to ask permission of another man before addressing his wife or wife to be, even if she is a queen. May I? It is only to present her(and you) with the betrothal gifts from my people."
His face was leathery from the deserts and his hands were the callased hands of a man who knew hardship. To the Capt. the unchecked scimitar at the arab's hip was not formal, but functional, he wondered how charming this robed foreigner was to get through security with it, though it was not hidden so...

"Of course you may." Kingsly replied with a little confusion.

Meanwhile, the Admiral wandered the room, talking with other delagates.
Bedou
01-02-2004, 09:14
Sheik Mohammed Bin Aldeeb
Bowed to the Capt. again.
He approached the Queen, and quitely said: " Your most compassionate grace, forgive the intrusion. It is considered bad manners in my land to come empty handed to a gathering such as this one. So I have three gifts, one , A fine golden dagger, it is meant to be worn by a woman that she might always be able to protect her virtue.

A pick from the stables of Bedou of any two of our Arabian stallions, you will forgive me as I could not carry the stables.

1 billion$ as a sign we hope your future marriage to be prosperous.

Please accept my best wishes and the best wishes of my people."
Hogsweat
01-02-2004, 12:51
Vassily Firzo entered the room, in a black suit. He strode over to Captain Kingsly.
"Forgive my lateness captain, but there were matters to attend to.Anyway, i have some things to present to you.
Firstly, from the greatest Hogsweatian smelters and smithies :
We give you this (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:7V15S7c8s-oJ:www.medievaltimes.com/giftshop/600/21%2520solomon%2520gold.jpg) gold-hilted sword as an token of friendship from the Free Patriotic Peoples. I congratulate you on your recent advances in political power"

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:7V15S7c8s-oJ:www.medievaltimes.com/giftshop/600/21%2520solomon%2520gold.jpg
Swedish Dominions
01-02-2004, 13:04
"A formation of JAS 39 Grippen Fighter/bombers are heard over TBD. It's the King of the Swedish Dominions that arrives a little bit late.

When the king arrives at the dinner, his royal Guards are securing the Dinner Room.

He settles down in chair."

- I'm sorry i'm late. said the King.
Credonia
01-02-2004, 13:56
Extremely late, the Credonian delegate arrives aboard a Boeing 737 Business Jet. The surprise delegate steps off of the plane onto the tarmac as his body guards hold back the press who seem to swarm around him. He poses for the camera and then begins to speak.

"For those of you who dont know me, I am Alexander Nicolas Sutton, son of late president Kaimoni Sutton, my father. It is time that i stop being afraid and take after my father. It is time that i pick up where he left off, and i know if he was here today, he would do all he can to establish good relations with every willing nation that he could. This is my way of showing mygratitude towards him, a great man, and this is how i will follow in my footsteps. Tonight, i officially announce that i will be running for President of the United States of Credonia in the 2004 elections to be started this month. That is all, thank you and God bless."

He walks to his Black 2004 Lincoln Navigator stretched limousine (the same kind as his father President Sutton) and headed towards the dinner.

As he arrives, he steps out of the limo and takes a look at his surroundings and inhales some of the sweet smelling air and starts for the door. He iand his bodyguards are greeted by armed guards.

"Not too bad of a job with security around here. Tonight just may be a good night to party" Sutton remarks as he heads past the guards and into the main room with the other dignitaries.

He approaches the King of the Swedish Dominion.

"Good evening your highness. Im Alexander, son if late President Kaimoni Sutton. Ive heard a lot about you in the Credonian news regarding the war on TBD (or is it PFM heh i just woke up so i forgot). Perhaps if you have time later on we may discuss that issue" he says as he shakes the Kings hand.
Swedish Dominions
01-02-2004, 16:06
Good Evening Alexander, exactly what have you heard about us in the war on TBD? We have only protested against it nothing else. And some sarcasm, or course. But if a real war breaks out, our forces will intevene to stop this nonsens attack from Danneland.
Credonia
01-02-2004, 16:39
"Yes, their aggression must be stopped, but the question is, how far are they really willing to go? That's the question that concerns not only myself, but the Credonian government, and what can we do to prevent such a war from breaking out?"
Hallad
01-02-2004, 16:48
"Sorry I'm late, my plane had trouble getting clearnace to land. I'm Derik Connolly, Chairman Halladi Socialist Party. Pleasure to meet you all. And it's an honour to be in such a lovely country."
Communist Rule
01-02-2004, 17:28
-Two men in nondescript suits sit in the coversation room. They speak to each other quietly in Russian, seemingly not paying attention to anything else. In fact, one of them is soaking up information like a sponge. He is part of the elite Black Ops team known only as "Снежная буря". The man he is speaking to is in fact the Foreign Minister. Generalissimo Lobonsky finds this meeting of world leaders far to tempting to a suicide bomber. He sends his regards through his Minister.
01-02-2004, 17:54
-Two men in nondescript suits sit in the coversation room. They speak to each other quietly in Russian, seemingly not paying attention to anything else. In fact, one of them is soaking up information like a sponge. He is part of the elite Black Ops team known only as "Снежная буря". The man he is speaking to is in fact the Foreign Minister. Generalissimo Lobonsky finds this meeting of world leaders far to tempting to a suicide bomber. He sends his regards through his Minister.

OOC:
Okay, several things before I present my gift.
Communist Rule, I have no clue what's going on, you promised no foul play when TBD let your jet land. You can break your promise, but it will not bode well with my nation.
Also, I sent A DIVISION of troops to TBD to help with the war and to protect the dinner. That's 21,000 men, enough to literally circle the dinner. Everyone is being screened for explosives, TBDs got 1,000 snipers in strategic locations and many nations sent SF to the dinner. Security is impossible to break, unless you have a really good idea and you RP it. Okay, now on to the gift.

IC:
President Karm Messner walks up to Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly and strikes up an ideal conversations. "Congratulations Captain, on your upcoming marriage. I wish it to be a long and happy one." He smiles, "I too have brought a gift for the both of you." He shows Queen Romalia and Captain Kingsly an incredibly ornate goblet. It is made of gold and is almost completely covered in diamonds. He speaks, "This is one of our nations priceless artifacts. The founders of our country brought it with them when they left the Old Kingdom. It has always brought luck to those who drink from it. Also, I have, with my own not inconsiderable wealth, bought you a country estate in Greenhome. It is near a quiet village in the heart of my nation. It is a large house on about 50 acres of property. I know the hunting is quite excellent in that area, it's where I grew up! I hope you enjoy my countrie's gift and my personnel gift."
The Burnsian Desert
01-02-2004, 17:58
"Oh my gosh! It's so pretty! Thank you, Karm!"
Jillland
01-02-2004, 18:16
King Donald walks to the Captin and introduces himself, " Hello I'm am King Donald Griffendorn King of Jillland. I am brother to the King of Matrex. I would like to extend my friend ship to you.
Inner Heaven
01-02-2004, 18:16
-Two men in nondescript suits sit in the coversation room. They speak to each other quietly in Russian, seemingly not paying attention to anything else. In fact, one of them is soaking up information like a sponge. He is part of the elite Black Ops team known only as "Снежная буря". The man he is speaking to is in fact the Foreign Minister. Generalissimo Lobonsky finds this meeting of world leaders far to tempting to a suicide bomber. He sends his regards through his Minister.

OOC:
Okay, several things before I present my gift.
Communist Rule, I have no clue what's going on, you promised no foul play when TBD let your jet land. You can break your promise, but it will not bode well with my nation.
Also, I sent A DIVISION of troops to TBD to help with the war and to protect the dinner. That's 21,000 men, enough to literally circle the dinner. Everyone is being screened for explosives, TBDs got 1,000 snipers in strategic locations and many nations sent SF to the dinner. Security is impossible to break, unless you have a really good idea and you RP it. Okay, now on to the gift.

IC:
President Karm Messner walks up to Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly and strikes up an ideal conversations. "Congratulations Captain, on your upcoming marriage. I wish it to be a long and happy one." He smiles, "I too have brought a gift for the both of you." He shows Queen Romalia and Captain Kingsly an incredibly ornate goblet. It is made of gold and is almost completely covered in diamonds. He speaks, "This is one of our nations priceless artifacts. The founders of our country brought it with them when they left the Old Kingdom. It has always brought luck to those who drink from it. Also, I have, with my own not inconsiderable wealth, bought you a country estate in Greenhome. It is near a quiet village in the heart of my nation. It is a large house on about 50 acres of property. I know the hunting is quite excellent in that area, it's where I grew up! I hope you enjoy my countrie's gift and my personnel gift."

Stop number wanking...
Bedou
01-02-2004, 18:22
Bin Al Deeb wanders into the Conversation room, seeing two gentlemen sitted and noting that they are speaking russian, he approaches them.
Noting that Russians might suit his taste in company more then kings.
"Kak deela, Tovarish?"
Hallad
01-02-2004, 18:59
"Oh, yes a gift." Derik opened his briefcase, showing the Queen a diamond necklace. "Courtesy of Hallad, milady. And once again, I am sorry for my tardiness."
01-02-2004, 21:10
-Two men in nondescript suits sit in the coversation room. They speak to each other quietly in Russian, seemingly not paying attention to anything else. In fact, one of them is soaking up information like a sponge. He is part of the elite Black Ops team known only as "Снежная буря". The man he is speaking to is in fact the Foreign Minister. Generalissimo Lobonsky finds this meeting of world leaders far to tempting to a suicide bomber. He sends his regards through his Minister.

OOC:
Okay, several things before I present my gift.
Communist Rule, I have no clue what's going on, you promised no foul play when TBD let your jet land. You can break your promise, but it will not bode well with my nation.
Also, I sent A DIVISION of troops to TBD to help with the war and to protect the dinner. That's 21,000 men, enough to literally circle the dinner. Everyone is being screened for explosives, TBDs got 1,000 snipers in strategic locations and many nations sent SF to the dinner. Security is impossible to break, unless you have a really good idea and you RP it. Okay, now on to the gift.

IC:
President Karm Messner walks up to Captain Mikheal A. Kingsly and strikes up an ideal conversations. "Congratulations Captain, on your upcoming marriage. I wish it to be a long and happy one." He smiles, "I too have brought a gift for the both of you." He shows Queen Romalia and Captain Kingsly an incredibly ornate goblet. It is made of gold and is almost completely covered in diamonds. He speaks, "This is one of our nations priceless artifacts. The founders of our country brought it with them when they left the Old Kingdom. It has always brought luck to those who drink from it. Also, I have, with my own not inconsiderable wealth, bought you a country estate in Greenhome. It is near a quiet village in the heart of my nation. It is a large house on about 50 acres of property. I know the hunting is quite excellent in that area, it's where I grew up! I hope you enjoy my countrie's gift and my personnel gift."

Stop number wanking...

Stop whining...
Communist Rule
01-02-2004, 21:25
Ehm......I stated above I had no cruel intentions... I was saying that this meeting is far too tempting for someone to walk in with a vest of C4..
01-02-2004, 21:58
Ehm......I stated above I had no cruel intentions... I was saying that this meeting is far too tempting for someone to walk in with a vest of C4..

OOC:
You confuse me...
Anyway, all that still applies to Imperial and Inner Heaven, I know you're out there!
Goronkoth
02-02-2004, 00:02
"Queen Romalia, Iwould like to invite you and your betrothed to the Launching of the Pacifica, over Picon. This is the 12th and last battlestar to be built for our fleet. The event is taking place in honor of our population reaching 500 million."
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 00:10
“I can’t wait to meet the Queen at the dinner!” Jonathon Doe, delegate of Zorakia said enthusiastically as he sat, excited in his seat on the leer jet accompanied by five bodyguards. A waiter pulled up a silver tinted bench with various non filling foodstuffs and began to serve the delegate.

“Sorry…” Jonathan said, raising his hand in disapproval of the waiter’s actions “Didn’t they ever teach you in training to ASK the person you’re serving if they actually want the food you’re placing on their table? I can tell you’re new…”

“Err…sorry, Jona – I mean…Mr Doe, It won’t happen again” The waiter said as he tried not to further offend the delegate. “Do you wish to have a taste of these fine dishes?” The waiter inquired.

“No…I’ve vowed never to eat aeroplane food again…it gives me the runs after, making me unable to perform my duties…no go” The delegate said, gesturing for the waiter to make himself scarce. Doing so the waiter pulled the silver wheeled tray into the waiter confinement, where a second waiter stood preparing another dish.

“I can’t take this shit anymore…the senile man is driving me mad” Kato said.

”Well, congratulations…we just received authorisation for the Phoenix Connection and the Two Heavens – mission is a go” The impostor chef replied as he quietly slid a high capacity magazine into a glock 17 and handed it to Kato.

“I’ve given one glock to Tony, and I flipped a coin for Dillion, he lost so he has the kitchen knives, same as me - you got 30 rounds…more than enough – you better make them count though, we can’t have bullets hitting the inner hull”

“Don’t worry, I got you…” Kato said as he silently pulled the slide back on the pistol, cocking it. He concealed it with a waiter’s towel.

Making his way back to the delegate’s seat, he leaned over and whispered into his ear “Sir...we have a problem”

“And what might that be” Jonathon replied.

“I’m not who you think I am”

“Oh? And who might you be”

“I’ll show you” With that said, Kato jumped up, throwing the towel from his weapon, aiming at the bodyguards he squeezed off two rounds, one penetrating the bodyguards body armour killing the man, the other catching itself up in the Kevlar plastic.

The second bodyguard rose and Kato methodically picked him off, with a single round to his head he fell back into his chair, lifeless.
Dillion moved into action drawing the kitchen knife from the waiters towel he launched it at the third bodyguard as he stormed into the delegates compartment with his pistol drawn, biting deep into the guards arm he let out a cry of pain firing at the terrorist in vain as he took cover.

Tony moved up to flank, dragging the knife out in a brutal fashion to cause more pain, he reinserted it, this time into the skull to put the bodyguard out of his misery. Looking up, Tony saw that Kato was already in the Underwood (Chef) was already in the cockpit, with the pilots dead; they had control of the plane.

“Please…don’t hurt me! I have a lot of money…I can pay you…double….TRIPLE the amount!” Jonathon screamed as Dillion dragged him out from his hiding place. He was having none of it, with a single run of the knife across the delegates’ neck, he was dead.

“Kato, Dillion, Tony, take though stabilizers on the VX canisters! – We got less than a minute – I’ve jettisoned the fuel!” Underwood screamed from the cockpit as he flew the plane.

“Sir, we’re on it already” Tony replied, as he set a laptop down the table. Inserting various codes for the VX canisters, disabling the explosive fail-safes.

The leer jet glided into a clearing, Underwood had a visual of the Mansion. ‘Excellent…’ He said to himself with a wicked grin.

“Sir! All VX canisters fail safes in the cargo hold are disabled!!”

Underwood watched as the various men from the ground caught on to what was happening, although it was too late as they retaliated with small arms fire against the plane as its course was set for the mansion
02-02-2004, 00:11
WARNING

We believe the Zorakian Learjet that was designated for delegate use has been hijacked. They are required to send a confirm signal every 20 minutes while in the air, and we have not recieved a signal for some time now. We don't know who it was hijacked by but we believe this is a serious security concern. I advise that air defense be set up around that mansion and that they set up a no-fly zone IMMEDIATELY.
02-02-2004, 00:15
Oh god, it's too late....
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 00:18
The Burnsian Desert
Communist Rule
Five Civilized Nations
Eriopia
Jillland
Horizon Island
Bedou
Zorakia
Dakara
Hogsweat
Swedish Dominions
Credonia
Hallad

....Post your losses, please.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:01
I believe that was part godmode. You didn't give people time to react. Of course, in real life that's what would happen. I for one have a supersonic transport in the air with AWACS capability. I would've detected the plane on a trajectory towards the mansion. Its the whole reason I put the plane up there. It then would've alerted the appropriate contacts.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 01:08
I believe that was part godmode. You didn't give people time to react. Of course, in real life that's what would happen. I for one have a supersonic transport in the air with AWACS capability. I would've detected the plane on a trajectory towards the mansion. Its the whole reason I put the plane up there. It then would've alerted the appropriate contacts.

The plane was carring a delegate that was suppose to be there, unless you had some sort of Ion cannon that could take it out seconds from knowing what was going to happen, then I doubt you could do anything even if you had AWACS capabilities :)

You can still react :P, jump out the window or something.
02-02-2004, 01:09
Godmod, give us a chance to react. Start it after you get the plane taken over.

For your benifit I will post the stats for the 1st Armored Division:

21,000 troops

Artillery:
30 M102
35 M198
10 M109A6
10 M110A2
5 MLRS A1

Anti Air:
16 Avenger
16 Improved Hawk

Armor:
75 M-1
50 M-1A1
50 M-60A3
25 M1-A2

IFVs:
115 M-2
100 M-3
85 LVTP-7

Air Support:
35 UH-60
25 AH-64
25 AH-1S

and

1st Interceptor Wing:
2 Squadrons F-15 Eagle
2 Squadrons F-16 Fighting Falcon
2 (aircraft) E-3 Sentry
2 (aircraft) KC-10 Extender
4 (aircraft) E-A6B Prowler
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 01:10
Godmod, give us a chance to react. Start it after you get the plane taken over.

For your benifit I will post the stats for the 1st Armored Division:

21,000 troops

Artillery:
30 M102
35 M198
10 M109A6
10 M110A2
5 MLRS A1

Anti Air:
16 Avenger
16 Improved Hawk

Armor:
75 M-1
50 M-1A1
50 M-60A3
25 M1-A2

IFVs:
115 M-2
100 M-3
85 LVTP-7

Air Support:
35 UH-60
25 AH-64
25 AH-1S

and

1st Interceptor Wing:
2 Squadrons F-15 Eagle
2 Squadrons F-16 Fighting Falcon
2 (aircraft) E-3 Sentry
2 (aircraft) KC-10 Extender
4 (aircraft) E-A6B Prowler

Greenhome = Ignored.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:10
I'm only RPing my part. IF my plane detected a jet that was headed towards the castle THIS late, it would send a warning to my people at the dinner. Further, you would have to say that the plane was on a collision course and moving at such and such a speed.. i.e. Let people react, but tell them that they can't just run out of the building for no reason at all or "dodge" the plane.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:12
I'm only RPing my part. IF my plane detected a jet that was headed towards the castle THIS late, it would send a warning to my people at the dinner. Further, you would have to say that the plane was on a collision course and moving at such and such a speed.. i.e. Let people react, but tell them that they can't just run out of the building for no reason at all or "dodge" the plane.
02-02-2004, 01:17
Godmod, give us a chance to react. Start it after you get the plane taken over.

For your benifit I will post the stats for the 1st Armored Division:

21,000 troops

Artillery:
30 M102
35 M198
10 M109A6
10 M110A2
5 MLRS A1

Anti Air:
16 Avenger
16 Improved Hawk

Armor:
75 M-1
50 M-1A1
50 M-60A3
25 M1-A2

IFVs:
115 M-2
100 M-3
85 LVTP-7

Air Support:
35 UH-60
25 AH-64
25 AH-1S

and

1st Interceptor Wing:
2 Squadrons F-15 Eagle
2 Squadrons F-16 Fighting Falcon
2 (aircraft) E-3 Sentry
2 (aircraft) KC-10 Extender
4 (aircraft) E-A6B Prowler

Greenhome = Ignored.

What, no reason? Are you sad? Ignore cannon fired at Inner Heaven. If your not willing to RP, then don't play the game.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 01:20
Godmod, give us a chance to react. Start it after you get the plane taken over.

For your benifit I will post the stats for the 1st Armored Division:

21,000 troops

Artillery:
30 M102
35 M198
10 M109A6
10 M110A2
5 MLRS A1

Anti Air:
16 Avenger
16 Improved Hawk

Armor:
75 M-1
50 M-1A1
50 M-60A3
25 M1-A2

IFVs:
115 M-2
100 M-3
85 LVTP-7

Air Support:
35 UH-60
25 AH-64
25 AH-1S

and

1st Interceptor Wing:
2 Squadrons F-15 Eagle
2 Squadrons F-16 Fighting Falcon
2 (aircraft) E-3 Sentry
2 (aircraft) KC-10 Extender
4 (aircraft) E-A6B Prowler

Greenhome = Ignored.

What, no reason? Are you sad? Ignore cannon fired at Inner Heaven. If your not willing to RP, then don't play the game.

Greenhome, I could wipe the floor with you if I wanted to with number wanking from my bigger nation - But number wanking isn't Rping...I don't rp with number wankers. That is all.
02-02-2004, 01:22
Godmod, give us a chance to react. Start it after you get the plane taken over.

For your benifit I will post the stats for the 1st Armored Division:

21,000 troops

Artillery:
30 M102
35 M198
10 M109A6
10 M110A2
5 MLRS A1

Anti Air:
16 Avenger
16 Improved Hawk

Armor:
75 M-1
50 M-1A1
50 M-60A3
25 M1-A2

IFVs:
115 M-2
100 M-3
85 LVTP-7

Air Support:
35 UH-60
25 AH-64
25 AH-1S

and

1st Interceptor Wing:
2 Squadrons F-15 Eagle
2 Squadrons F-16 Fighting Falcon
2 (aircraft) E-3 Sentry
2 (aircraft) KC-10 Extender
4 (aircraft) E-A6B Prowler

Greenhome = Ignored.

What, no reason? Are you sad? Ignore cannon fired at Inner Heaven. If your not willing to RP, then don't play the game.

Greenhome, I could wipe the floor with you if I wanted to with number wanking from my bigger nation - But number wanking isn't Rping...I don't rp with number wankers. That is all.

So, I don't care. The fact is, you don't RP, you godmod, you make the game boring for other players. Your "RPing" is saying, "You're dead, now RP how you respond. But wait, you can't attack me I'm a terrorist cell."
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 01:22
I'm only RPing my part. IF my plane detected a jet that was headed towards the castle THIS late, it would send a warning to my people at the dinner. Further, you would have to say that the plane was on a collision course and moving at such and such a speed.. i.e. Let people react, but tell them that they can't just run out of the building for no reason at all or "dodge" the plane.

That's fair CR. I'll change it to make room.

I was going to rp it with secret rps - but we both know that wouldn't have worked. So I had to do it in secret, and post the whole thing.

Anyway, either way you look at it, the VX will be released :)

Greenhome, shut up now. Where did i say "you're dead" Moron...LOL
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:36
-As the taken-over Leer Jet flies towards the dinner, far above the radar operator in the coverted TU-160 notices that an incoming plane has begun a dive, gaining speed at the dinner. (You glided. Generally increasing speed, because you are diving.) This may be a cocky pilot getting ready to land, but his instructions left by the Снежная буря operator dictated to report ANYTHING suspicious. Inside the dinner the Снежная буря man picked up his phone and listened. He whispered into the Foreign Minister's ear for about 2 seconds. The Foreign Minister, briefed by Generalissimo Lobonsky, knew this dinner was a potential slaughter straight out of the Godfather Part III. He therefore began moving out of the mansion, the Снежная буря operative at his side radioing the secret helicopter force. The 3 KA-60s lifted off heading in their direction. The Foreign Minister and the Снежная буря man entered an awaiting car. It was, after all, provided by TBD for lodging purposes. The Снежная буря driving, the car was driven at high speed towards the helicopter extract. This was probably just some cocky pilot, but who's going to take that risk when you were eating at potential mass murder scene? The helicopters were nearing 270 knots. The car was moving at about 120 km/h. They would probably meet some 10 miles outside the palace. From their extraction would be quick. The FM and his bodyguard's abrupt disappearance may ridicule them in the international community, but the going phrase is "better safe than sorry".

OOC: This is not a godmode. While the decision was made on a 'hunch', the hunch was well thought out. He knew what kind of threat this was and knew that the plane was acting suspiciously.
02-02-2004, 01:43
OOC:
Unless Inner Heaven gives me a very good reason to change my mind, I am going to go on as if that never happened.

Inner Heaven: Another thing, even if your aircraft wasn't shot down by anti air you have another problem. VX gas takes AT LEAST 6 min. to effect someone. If the gas has been scattered (such as by an explosion) then death can take 2 HOURS! During that time the pain is excruciating, but it gives us time to save our national leaders.

IC:
"Hmm," President Karm Messner wondered, "why did Communist Rule's delagate just leave. Oh well, some people are weird like that... So far the nights been great, I'm so happy for Rachel...
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 01:45
Greenhome, I could wipe the floor with you if I wanted to with number wanking from my bigger nation - But number wanking isn't Rping...I don't rp with number wankers. That is all.

OOC: Look, it's simple, if all of this guys RP was done with the use of numbers then yeah, you can ignore him. However seeing as he did IC have all those forces there then it isn't GODMODing for him to post that he has those forces... this is assuming he was going to RP the defence you guys denied him.

It's simple...

First, we have a plane, it's meant to land on a air field which won't be in the direction of the manor, though it may be near.

Your plane then changes course to hit the manor, not reducing speed.

Defence forces ask you why you have not reduced speed (being near the airport) and why your course is not going to the airport.

You answer, BS or otherwise.

Then, if you didn't chage course, he may either: Ask again or RP an attack against the plane on the grounds it isn't following orders (i.e landing).

You then RP the plane being hit, or dodging the attack, however, if the RPed attack was pretty full proof (it should be with the number of defences in place) then you have to RP your plane going down.

He RP's responce (maybe people going "arrggg its coming towards us" then they brace for whatever.

You hit ground.

They RP losses, shouldn't be too much cause you won't hit straight, if at all.


All of the above is RPed, they can all ignore you for not allowing them to RP their defences... so your claim that Greenholme can't RP is wrong, cause you didn't let him.

Learn to RP, start again or they will ignore you.

OOC Advise by The Pete
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:46
*was waiting for Iuthia to step in* :roll:
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 01:49
*was waiting for Iuthia to step in* :roll:

It's good advise... thats all. If you want to ignore it then thats fine, but people need to know that the above is how the RP would have been done if everyone is allowed their piece.

Eitherway, unless someone addresses me I'll leave it at that.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 01:50
OOC:
Unless Inner Heaven gives me a very good reason to change my mind, I am going to go on as if that never happened.

Inner Heaven: Another thing, even if your aircraft wasn't shot down by anti air you have another problem. VX gas takes AT LEAST 6 min. to effect someone. If the gas has been scattered (such as by an explosion) then death can take 2 HOURS! During that time the pain is excruciating, but it gives us time to save our national leaders.

IC:
"Hmm," President Karm Messner wondered, "why did Communist Rule's delagate just leave. Oh well, some people are weird like that... So far the nights been great, I'm so happy for Rachel...

Do you research boy, I'm using the VX GAS not the VX liquid

http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/mom/vx/VX.htm

The "V" of VX signifies it long persistence. So it is more dangerous and toxic than its cousins of the "G" variety like GA (Tabun) and GB (Sarin), which dissipate quickly and have only short-term effects. In the liquid form of VX, it is absorbed through the eyes or the skin of the victim. It takes an hour or two to take effect and its effects result in death. The gaseous form is more deadly than the liquid form and acts almost immediately on the victim. The effects are worst when it is inhaled and death is an end to the suffering.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 01:53
*was waiting for Iuthia to step in* :roll:

It's good advise... thats all. If you want to ignore it then thats fine, but people need to know that the above is how the RP would have been done if everyone is allowed their piece.

Eitherway, unless someone addresses me I'll leave it at that.

Actually, I'm for your advice. I agree. THe only problem here is that TBD wasn't around to RP his defenses.
Hallad
02-02-2004, 01:56
02-02-2004, 01:58
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:15
Greenhome, I could wipe the floor with you if I wanted to with number wanking from my bigger nation - But number wanking isn't Rping...I don't rp with number wankers. That is all.

OOC: Look, it's simple, if all of this guys RP was done with the use of numbers then yeah, you can ignore him. However seeing as he did IC have all those forces there then it isn't GODMODing for him to post that he has those forces... this is assuming he was going to RP the defence you guys denied him.

It's simple...

First, we have a plane, it's meant to land on a air field which won't be in the direction of the manor, though it may be near.

Your plane then changes course to hit the manor, not reducing speed.

Defence forces ask you why you have not reduced speed (being near the airport) and why your course is not going to the airport.

You answer, BS or otherwise.

Then, if you didn't chage course, he may either: Ask again or RP an attack against the plane on the grounds it isn't following orders (i.e landing).

You then RP the plane being hit, or dodging the attack, however, if the RPed attack was pretty full proof (it should be with the number of defences in place) then you have to RP your plane going down.

He RP's responce (maybe people going "arrggg its coming towards us" then they brace for whatever.

You hit ground.

They RP losses, shouldn't be too much cause you won't hit straight, if at all.


All of the above is RPed, they can all ignore you for not allowing them to RP their defences... so your claim that Greenholme can't RP is wrong, cause you didn't let him.

Learn to RP, start again or they will ignore you.

OOC Advise by The Pete

There is an airstrip next to the manor. :)

While they can shoot it down, they won't have long to do it. It was an expected plane.
02-02-2004, 02:21
There is an airstrip next to the manor.

Wrong, TBD never said where it is and I challenge you to find otherwise. It's up to TBD where it is, it's up to TBD if you got shot at, you overstepped when you basically declared losses for us and didn't allow us to react.

also,

All quotes from How to Make War by James Dunnigan.
"Nerve, VX, Inhaled time to take effect, 6 minutes", pg. 445
"Inhaled time to take effect... This assumes a sufficient concentration", pg. 449
I think that an explosion would scatter the gas.
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 02:24
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:31
Greenhome, I didn't declare your losses - check the list, you as well as another person were ignored long before this thread was made.

The reason i ignored you was because you managed to get an entire division into the country within a week - It takes a rapid respones division two weeks to get into a country - In the other thread, I saw you click your finger and the division magically appeared.

Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane for that very reason, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Also, TBD described the area - and what consisted within it - that included the airstrip.
02-02-2004, 02:34
Greenhome, I didn't declare your losses - check the list, you as well as another person were ignored long before this thread was made.

The reason i ignored you was because you managed to get an entire division into the country within a week - It takes a rapid respones division two weeks to get into a country - In the other thread, I saw you click your finger and the division magically appeared.

Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Wrong, in that thread I mention that it will take 2 weeks for my division to get there, and that I only arrived with the front runners. TBD agreed and the dinner took place a couple weeks later.

Also, you still haven't answered Iuthia.

I'll post a link to that thread in a bit.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 02:36
For all we know TBD made the sides of the dinner hall/palace thing out of steel upon steel upon concrete.
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 02:38
Actually, I'm for your advice. I agree. THe only problem here is that TBD wasn't around to RP his defenses.

OOC: Yeah, I know but in all truth people are on at different times of the day and we all live in different parts of the world... not to meantion we all have a life (some more then others :oops: ).

So when someone isn't around, you wait for them... it's good manners and it's important. You could RP something else whiule you wait, but the fact remains that you can't "drumroll" attacks because someone isn't there.

"Drumrolling" attacks is where you declare war on them then post all your movements without allowing them to reply... it's GODMODING and it's even in the FAQ's telling you about it. Even if they don't reply on that day doesn't mean you can just skip their bit... this is something too many people fail to understand. NS Combat should be turn based when dealing with attack and defence.

My example above of the RP that should of happened has both sides taking turn reaction to one anothers RP... thats how NS works and it's how RP's go without to much complaint, if all combat was done like that it would take a bit of time, but it would be good solid RP.


Thanks for agreeing with me... this is one of those times when I am not just getting in the way, but I'm trying to help. Notice the lack of insults in my posts... thats because I'm trying to help, not insult the guy and call him "n00b"... which is a horrible anoying word.

OOC Aditional Note for Inner Haven:

The above example assumed a near by Air Strip...

However, you are forgeting that planes have to slow down on the approach and they have to do it from a distance away... also your trajectory will be slightly different if you intend on landing, which you didn't

Because you didn't slow down and because you weren't going directly for the airstrip he could ask you with comms why you didn't do it.

Stop trying to weasle out of it, you skipped vital RP and drumrolled your attack, change it or be ignored... it's simple.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 02:40
OOC: As it seems my evac was accepted.....

IC: The car soon gained sight of the helos, and using the radio the Снежная буря man had one touch down, rotors spinning. The helicopter's soldier compliment of 12 exited to cover the approach to the helicopter. They scanned the immediate area with their assorted weaponry. The Foreign Minister was ushered aboard, head ducked by the Снежная буря operative. The operative ordered the men back inside the helicopter before boarding himself. The helicopter lifted off and resumed formation with the circling helicopters. They would be met by HC-130 variants to refuel, eventually making the long trip back to the USSCR. The event was largely unnoticed, as the helicopters continued to fly NOTE.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:40
Greenhome, I didn't declare your losses - check the list, you as well as another person were ignored long before this thread was made.

The reason i ignored you was because you managed to get an entire division into the country within a week - It takes a rapid respones division two weeks to get into a country - In the other thread, I saw you click your finger and the division magically appeared.

Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Wrong, in that thread I mention that it will take 2 weeks for my division to get there, and that I only arrived with the front runners. TBD agreed and the dinner took place a couple weeks later.

Also, you still haven't answered Iuthia.

I'll post a link to that thread in a bit.

And what question did Iuthia ask me?...
02-02-2004, 02:40
Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane for that very reason, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Also, TBD described the area - and what consisted within it - that included the airstrip

No, TBD just described the airstrip, didn't say where it was. For all you know the estate could be an area 100 by 100 miles.

EDIT (times 3): Ignore what was here, I was wrong. Sorry Inner Heaven

EDIT:
Okay, answer his (or her) charge of godmoding.

EDIT (times 2):
Arg, stop editing, I can't keep up... :D
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:42
Actually, I'm for your advice. I agree. THe only problem here is that TBD wasn't around to RP his defenses.

OOC: Yeah, I know but in all truth people are on at different times of the day and we all live in different parts of the world... not to meantion we all have a life (some more then others :oops: ).

So when someone isn't around, you wait for them... it's good manners and it's important. You could RP something else whiule you wait, but the fact remains that you can't "drumroll" attacks because someone isn't there.

"Drumrolling" attacks is where you declare war on them then post all your movements without allowing them to reply... it's GODMODING and it's even in the FAQ's telling you about it. Even if they don't reply on that day doesn't mean you can just skip their bit... this is something too many people fail to understand. NS Combat should be turn based when dealing with attack and defence.

My example above of the RP that should of happened has both sides taking turn reaction to one anothers RP... thats how NS works and it's how RP's go without to much complaint, if all combat was done like that it would take a bit of time, but it would be good solid RP.


Thanks for agreeing with me... this is one of those times when I am not just getting in the way, but I'm trying to help. Notice the lack of insults in my posts... thats because I'm trying to help, not insult the guy and call him "n00b"... which is a horrible anoying word.

OOC Aditional Note for Inner Haven:

The above example assumed a near by Air Strip...

However, you are forgeting that planes have to slow down on the approach and they have to do it from a distance away... also your trajectory will be slightly different if you intend on landing, which you didn't

Because you didn't slow down and because you weren't going directly for the airstrip he could ask you with comms why you didn't do it.

Stop trying to weasle out of it, you skipped vital RP and drumrolled your attack, change it or be ignored... it's simple.

Iuthia, i sent you a TG, answer please :)
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:42
Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane for that very reason, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Also, TBD described the area - and what consisted within it - that included the airstrip

No, TBD just described the airstrip, didn't say where it was. For all you know the estate could be an area 100 by 100 miles.

For the second thing, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT IN YOUR POST SO YOU DIDN'T DO IT! Please stop, okay, I just want to watch the second half of the Superbowl.

EDIT:
Okay, answer his (or her) charge of godmoding.

We ejected the fuel, read it.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 02:43
Actually, I'm for your advice. I agree. THe only problem here is that TBD wasn't around to RP his defenses.

OOC: Yeah, I know but in all truth people are on at different times of the day and we all live in different parts of the world... not to meantion we all have a life (some more then others :oops: ).

So when someone isn't around, you wait for them... it's good manners and it's important. You could RP something else whiule you wait, but the fact remains that you can't "drumroll" attacks because someone isn't there.

"Drumrolling" attacks is where you declare war on them then post all your movements without allowing them to reply... it's GODMODING and it's even in the FAQ's telling you about it. Even if they don't reply on that day doesn't mean you can just skip their bit... this is something too many people fail to understand. NS Combat should be turn based when dealing with attack and defence.

My example above of the RP that should of happened has both sides taking turn reaction to one anothers RP... thats how NS works and it's how RP's go without to much complaint, if all combat was done like that it would take a bit of time, but it would be good solid RP.


Thanks for agreeing with me... this is one of those times when I am not just getting in the way, but I'm trying to help. Notice the lack of insults in my posts... thats because I'm trying to help, not insult the guy and call him "n00b"... which is a horrible anoying word.

OOC Aditional Note for Inner Haven:

The above example assumed a near by Air Strip...

However, you are forgeting that planes have to slow down on the approach and they have to do it from a distance away... also your trajectory will be slightly different if you intend on landing, which you didn't

Because you didn't slow down and because you weren't going directly for the airstrip he could ask you with comms why you didn't do it.

Stop trying to weasle out of it, you skipped vital RP and drumrolled your attack, change it or be ignored... it's simple.

Sorry to quote such a long post. Anyways, yes. A plane has to do several things before landing, even an emergency landing. It first has to alert the tower so it doesn't get blindsided by an airplane taking off. It has to make a large banking turn to line up with the runway. It has to slow down and turn on Instrument Landing Systems. (Most planes, if not all have them.) The plane would then lower its flaps and gear, which would be detectable from the ground and air. (When have you ever seen an aircraft and debated whether its gear was down or up? Its obvious!) You did none of these.....
Belem
02-02-2004, 02:46
OOC: GH just accept it the airstrip was near the manor and the plane is pumping out VX gas alot of people are going to die.
02-02-2004, 02:47
Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane for that very reason, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Also, TBD described the area - and what consisted within it - that included the airstrip

No, TBD just described the airstrip, didn't say where it was. For all you know the estate could be an area 100 by 100 miles.

For the second thing, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT IN YOUR POST SO YOU DIDN'T DO IT! Please stop, okay, I just want to watch the second half of the Superbowl.

EDIT:
Okay, answer his (or her) charge of godmoding.

We ejected the fuel, read it.

Please ignore that, I apolagize again to Inner Heaven.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 02:49
OOC: GH just accept it the airstrip was near the manor and the plane is pumping out VX gas alot of people are going to die.

OOC: Though your first statement may be correct, the other two are not. The plane's actually crash/approach was godmoded.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:50
Also, we ejected the fuel from the plane for that very reason, so there won't be an explosion strong enough to clear the VX Gas.

Also, TBD described the area - and what consisted within it - that included the airstrip

No, TBD just described the airstrip, didn't say where it was. For all you know the estate could be an area 100 by 100 miles.

For the second thing, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT IN YOUR POST SO YOU DIDN'T DO IT! Please stop, okay, I just want to watch the second half of the Superbowl.

EDIT:
Okay, answer his (or her) charge of godmoding.

We ejected the fuel, read it.

OMG WHY DO I RP WITH YOU!?

Sorry, I don't mean to start a flame war so all I'll do is quote timestamps from the airplane hijacking post:

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:10 pm

Last edited by Inner Heaven on Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:36 pm; edited 1 time in total

I don't think he edited it for grammar AN HOUR LATER!

GH stop being an idiot.

It was in there, I edited it to cut it back because CR wanted more room to react - since I had the jet crashed into the building - now its on its way to crash, I'm getting tired talking to you.
Goronkoth
02-02-2004, 02:54
OOC: By the way, am I the one being Ignored?
02-02-2004, 02:55
Sorry, then. However, that is yet another sign that the plane should've been shot down. If its ejecting its fuel than it would have been marked as odd. Inner Heaven, stop arguing, you have ignored many good arguement from a bunch of players about why you couldn't do your attack. It was a good idea, but it isn't worth arguing over. Please stop arguing, it's getting tedious. I will no longer respond to your posts ever, unless you are willing to be reasonable.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 02:55
OOC: Either way, I'm safe. :P .....Yeah..............foresight is a beautiful thing?
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 02:58
OOC: By the way, am I the one being Ignored?

OOC: Yes - For your little stunt with the 'starships'.
Goronkoth
02-02-2004, 03:00
OOC: By the way, am I the one being Ignored?

OOC: Yes - For your little stunt with the 'starships'.

OOC: WTF? What do you mean "stunt?" That is my military! I am a futuristic society! I have as much bearing as you do in this!
02-02-2004, 03:01
TBD, when you get here this is my advise:
Unless Inner Heaven is willing to be reasonable, ignore what he has posted. Then start a new dinner thread, make it a closed RP and say that he, or anyone who didn't sign up, can't post there.

EDIT:
Just so everyone know, TBD play both at the modern tech level, and at the futuristic one.
The Burnsian Desert
02-02-2004, 03:04
Alright guys:

For one thing, we're at DEFCON 5. All planes without the sign are SHOT DOWN BY THE AMBSDS. And you couldn't have had the sign, I TG'd it. Anyways, the VX gas is a godmod, the plane is currently a smoldering pile of laser-ripped wreckage in The Big Bay. So give us a time to explian and defend ouselves. Terrorists are resourceful, but 1000 snipers, checkpoints, MG nests and tanks, ect. are going to stop you, stop being a sore terrorist.
The Burnsian Desert
02-02-2004, 03:06
Alright guys:

For one thing, we're at DEFCON 5. All planes without the sign are SHOT DOWN BY THE AMBSDS. And you couldn't have had the sign, I TG'd it. Anyways, the VX gas is a godmod, the plane is currently a smoldering pile of laser-ripped wreckage in The Big Bay. So give us a time to explian and defend ouselves. Terrorists are resourceful, but 1000 snipers, checkpoints, MG nests, SAM sites, SWAT teams, security guards bumbed from Jerry Spriger, and tanks, ect. are going to stop you, stop being a sore terrorist.
Communist Rule
02-02-2004, 03:09
OOC: Huh.... Hmm... Yeah.. -sniffs-.....I see... -puts hands in pockets, looks down and whistles, kicks at some dirt- Shucks....All that evacuation for nothing...
02-02-2004, 03:09
Hello TBD, like I posted, maybe we should start another thread? Up to you, though please tell us if you do.
Inner Heaven
02-02-2004, 03:10
It wasn't an Inner Heaven plane, it was a plane of Zorakia origin. And the Zorakia government issued a statement that they would be attending - did you send one to this nation?
02-02-2004, 03:13
TBD, don't argue with him, just start another thread, post a link, mention in the thread that it is a closed RP and let's get on with the dinner, it was starting to get fun before he showed up.
The Burnsian Desert
02-02-2004, 03:16
Posting new topic
02-02-2004, 03:21
Inner Heaven, you are ignored. That is it no more. If anyone wants to argue on his side, read the thread. He ignored many reasonable questions and explainations of why he couldn't make the attack work. He ignored me for asking questions just like the one he just asked. He obviously doesn't want to rp. Goodbye.

EDIT:
Link to new thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2682659#2682659
02-02-2004, 04:12
They didn't have to RP giving defenses time to react because they wouldn't have time to react. :roll: They played it out pretty damn well, and even supposing that the plane was shot down that's still a LOT of VX real close to the mansion.
Bedou
02-02-2004, 07:03
The Burnsian Desert
Communist Rule
Five Civilized Nations
Eriopia
Jillland
Horizon Island
Bedou
Zorakia
Dakara
Hogsweat
Swedish Dominions
Credonia
Hallad

....Post your losses, please.
That was a farce, a mansion full of dignitaries and you expect me to believe there was no no fly zone?
pssht, the worst RP i have seen, why didnt you just
NUUK MY BASIS!!!11!!!!!!!!
I.G.N.O.R.E.
Bedou
02-02-2004, 07:07
They didn't have to RP giving defenses time to react because they wouldn't have time to react. :roll: They played it out pretty damn well, and even supposing that the plane was shot down that's still a LOT of VX real close to the mansion.
plenty of time to react, given modern military protocol.
How did they get the VX on the plane?
Or do all Zork delegates carry VX in their luggage, c'mon, my 8 year old daughter could do better.
Iuthia
02-02-2004, 10:43
They didn't have to RP giving defenses time to react because they wouldn't have time to react. :roll: They played it out pretty damn well, and even supposing that the plane was shot down that's still a LOT of VX real close to the mansion.

Hm... I do beleive I clearly pointed out that it is impossible to fly directly into the mansion without getting shot down, thus ignoring the others right to RP a defence.

Basic point, even if the airstrip was directly next to the manor, which it wasn't apartently, they would have to have flown in a specific manner to land. They would have to slow down from a distance away, look like they are landing, be pointing in the right way ect. They just flew at them and said "We hit joo, post damages" which is ignoring the large amount of security put in place... it is a godmode. Hell, the plane had even released it's fuel early, which would be supicious...

If they had RPed it right, it wouldn't have been ignored and the shot down plane may have spewed VX gas and killed alot of military personnel... however they didn't, it got ignore... ohwell... shit RP happens.