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We are planning to make a new revoluiotnary firearm.We need prodution for making the weapon.We also need partners upon completion of a newly existing firearm it will be sent free and if you like the weapon it will be delivered but it will cost a price but I dont know how much it will cost yet.Well anyone willing to help is welcome to assist.

we'll be happy to help

Great start woek on the new bullet for the gun and then i'll work on the cartridge and the firing mechanizim.Remember any other nations are always welcome to help with the program.

I would be willing to help if this program was more realistic. To create this new rifle we would all have to work in unison. To build the rest of the gun the Bullet has to be finished first, then the rest can be carried on, this needs to be done one part at a time. If we start building it like this, so it is practical, I would be glad to help.

I am fully willing to assist you intaking on this quest.
I am ranked 3rd in my region for Arms Manufacturing and my sister nation is ranked 2nd.

We are willing to help you build this gun, if of course, we get building rights to it also.

Okay all business partners get prodution rights once it is built.Now tell me when you have the design ready then we can sell!

Okay any nations wanna join the project?

bump. Anyone?

Anarresa is interested in this program and would be happy to help. What features do you with to implement? Calling the weapon a "revolutionary rifle" dosen't say much. Please post the features needed or TG me with them.

We're willing to aid in the production of this weapon.

You can provide further details of this weapon, and specifications?

We are currently researching designs and we want to make a new round of ammo for your help is greatly needed.You will get prodution rights upon completion of the weapon.

i really dont undersatand this
part very much. could you explan how one would manufacture this weapon

Leprechaun Island wishes to create this weapon with you all.

Ok then. I would propose the 6.56 cartridge being adopted by many of the powerful nations in the world, due to its increased stopping power over the 5.56. We can modify the cartridge later to meed specific needs.

Now for situations, what theaters do you expect this rifle so be used in?

São direito pedir ajuda neste esfôrço, e se une-se nosso shing-olhai de região ajudaá-lo. por telegrama de favor nos se somos interessados em nossa ajuda.

O embaixador a Shing-Olhai
O membro do conselho real
O herói de guerra
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The pic of the tiger was cool, as they once helped us in a certain battle, but the post conerns the people of the island, because when we can't undestand our allies and partners, it worries us, can anyone translate that for us?

They are right to ask for aid in this effort, and if ours is joined shing-looks at of region ajudaá-lo. for telegram of favor in if we are interested in our aid.

Yay google language tools! Just for English people, no offence dude.

Bedou would be happy to back you financially.
Though we would like to know if the weapon will be an assault rifle, pistol, machine gun(light, medium or heavy) sniper rifle(anti-personell or anti-hardware)?
For an assualt rifle or anti-personell sniper, we reccomend 7.62 or a WinMag .300 (shortend ofcourse if in an assualt rifle).
The soviet/nato 7.62s are the most prolific round in the world, so it would add in most militaries phaseing this new weapon, the WinMag is imply a wonderful round for range, accuracy, and knock down.
We would not want production rights but rather, unlimited procurement of the weapon, in other words-we help you- you arm us.

They are right to ask for aid in this effort, and if ours is joined shing-looks at of region ajudaá-lo. for telegram of favor in if we are interested in our aid.

Yay google language tools! Just for English people, no offence dude.

laugh, no problem. anyways... that was a terrible translation. let me work it out in my head.

"its good of you to ask for help, as you are much too young to mass produce your goods. i offer aid to all nations in my region if you are interested send me a telegram."

thats a rough translation - my portugese isn't the best, i let him do all that kind of stuff usually, but i come out at night and umm... i think hes sleeping.

Osaki, on behalf of

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For an assualt rifle or anti-personell sniper, we reccomend 7.62

The major flaw with 7.62 is weight and the cappacity a solider can carry. In the field, lots of 7.62 ammo can be very tireing on a solider and will be depleted quicky in a fire-fight. This is why is is no longer used by most nations with the decreased weight of the 5.56 cartrige. How ever the 5.56 lacked the stopping power and was in some cases less efficent than the 7.62 was. This is why I sugges the 6.56 cartridge over all others, it provides good stopping power with low weight.

For an assualt rifle or anti-personell sniper, we reccomend 7.62

The major flaw with 7.62 is weight and the cappacity a solider can carry. In the field, lots of 7.62 ammo can be very tireing on a solider and will be depleted quicky in a fire-fight. This is why is is no longer used by most nations with the decreased weight of the 5.56 cartrige. How ever the 5.56 lacked the stopping power and was in some cases less efficent than the 7.62 was. This is why I sugges the 6.56 cartridge over all others, it provides good stopping power with low weight.

For an assalt-rifle I agree, however snipers do not carry vast amounts of ammunition the way regular soldiers do(snipers avoid firefights), which is why 5.56, is dreaded in a sniper rifle, WinMag .300 is good cartridge, favored by many in the US military(and most SWAT).
.30 cal is a good sniper round, unless of course you are talking anti-material. Then you want 20mm.
As far as how 'prolific' the round is, really has very little to do with the quality.
IMHO.

For an assualt rifle or anti-personell sniper, we reccomend 7.62

The major flaw with 7.62 is weight and the cappacity a solider can carry. In the field, lots of 7.62 ammo can be very tireing on a solider and will be depleted quicky in a fire-fight. This is why is is no longer used by most nations with the decreased weight of the 5.56 cartrige. How ever the 5.56 lacked the stopping power and was in some cases less efficent than the 7.62 was. This is why I sugges the 6.56 cartridge over all others, it provides good stopping power with low weight.

For an assalt-rifle I agree, however snipers do not carry vast amounts of ammunition the way regular soldiers do(snipers avoid firefights), which is why 5.56, is dreaded in a sniper rifle, WinMag .300 is good cartridge, favored by many in the US military(and most SWAT).
.30 cal is a good sniper round, unless of course you are talking anti-material. Then you want 20mm.
As far as how 'prolific' the round is, really has very little to do with the quality.
IMHO.
OOC: Good point Anarresa.
Skibereen, I didnt say the round was superior because of its prolific nature. I was sayying it would make it an easier transition, lighten up.

Then it is settled the gun will use the 6.56 caliber.I propose it be designed for urban or desert warfare we can make future models for all sorts of combat enviroments.Also we would like to make a small compact version,a assault rifle version and heavy machine-gun version.We now ask that all prodution partners come up with a design for the firearm then we make the proto-type and begin doing testing.

Okay everyone start working on a original design we're gonna make it reliable,robust and durable.Once we make the proto-type we can really test it.

Merci for the translation. Yes, lets build this weapon! MUUHHAAHHAAA!!!!

but we still need goals like the max time it can be used witout cleaning and such. Specific goals must be set to make the firearm

Well, I want a powerful fits-in-you-pocket-version. I;ll send some friends to the US, and see if we can find any "info" he he he he!

Now for situations, what theaters do you expect this rifle so be used in?

When people try to kill me, steal my gold, or touch anything belonging to me. Long distance means less losses, but close combat can force the opposition to wack itself...*Ponders*

One of the big things affecting weapons choice, is doctrine-i.e. how it's going to be used.

We're quite satisfied with .30-06, which is bulkier than 7.62, but can push a heavier bullet farther and faster.
(then again, we're quite happy issuing the M-1 Garand, which weighs 12 lbs, roughly twice what an M-16 weighs in at...)

If your doctrine trains soviet-style spray-'n'-pray tactics, go with the smaller round, if you stress accurate fire at long range, you might consider something that is actually capable of killing a man consistently at ranges greater than three football fields. (300 yards, which is about where 5.56 loses consistency, and where 7.62x39 loses all (effective)velocity...)


Ballistics charts and impact-energy numbers are available upon request, or you could just get the Speer or Hornady loading manuals...

We have almost completed it we are testing the proto-type now.

We can help with funding or production, that is as long as the weapon is present or near present tech.

We are a near-future tech nation.Sure you can fund the project!

Ok, how much do you need. If the tech is too future for ppl i can give it to my puppet IH space colonies.

1,000,000,000 USD have been wired into your national accounts, for use with this project.

Well it looks like we have a rifle similar to the XM-8 except with a larger round. It seems to be fairing very well in accuracy and durability tests, also accuracy with less trained personel seems to be remarkably better then we expected thanks to to rangefinder and scope. The only real problem now is production cost, but that can be expected to drop. We belive that any army making the transition to this new weapon will have a easy time retraining.

OOC: Another problem, we need a name!

hhmm.......


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