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Growing Support in Election, Capitalist rule in danger.

Swedish Dominions
31-01-2004, 21:51
The Latest news from SDNBN

Good Evening
In the uppcoming government election the communist party, The Left Party have majorty of the people on their side. But the Social Democratics are not far behind.
The Left Party are fighting for more equality, when the Social Democratics are fighting for money.
No wonder why the Left Party are gaining votes.

Here are the current numbers:


The Left Party: 35%
Social Democratics: 30%
Moderates: 15%
National Democratics: 10%
Facist Party 5%
Green Party: 5%

We will return with further news.
Good Evening.
Swedish Dominions
01-02-2004, 16:15
Good Evening!

This is Election Night!

We'll Have a differant Election Special tonight(ooc: another Thread)
We'll hope that the Social Democratics wins this.
Neo-Anarchos
01-02-2004, 17:39
The people of the federate anarchist communes of Neo-Anarchos unanimously support the rule of the proletariat. While a communist party will not bring total equality, it will change things for the better.

Tias Guerrera,
Head spokesman for the Revolutionary Committee of Spokesmen..
01-02-2004, 17:51
Communism, as the deshumanising doctrine it is, is against the nature of the person.
The Holy Catholic Church hopes communism will not take over The Swedish Dominions, and, although capitalism is not exactly God´s present to Earth, it respects more the human independence and human dignity.

We call all the Christianity to resist communism, through the virtue and through the intelligence, not through the violence.

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Pope Julius V.
Neo-Anarchos
01-02-2004, 18:07
We formally condemn the statement from the Holy Catholic Church.

Religion, like so many other forms of individual expression, is often senselessly exploited for shortsighted profit motives, or other individuals desiring power over others. The catholic church, like so many other churches, has it's grand share of sexism, racism, homophobia and anti-choice sentiment, and these sentiments enforce their hierarchal tyranny over billions of people around the globe every single second.

That being said, we would respectfully like the Holy Catholic Church to shed some light on it's opinion towards Anarchism and Syndicalism. Almost all Neo-Anarchan citizens are anarchists, and have never been freeer or happier in their lives. A rough draft of our political doctrine can be found here (http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html)!
01-02-2004, 18:16
The Universe, the Cosmos, is an order, and so it is every single thing in it, because that´s its nature.
From Bakunin to.... to Neo Anarchos, Anarchism has been developing, most of the times, sadly, along with a bad use of liberty, which is anti-natural, and as everything that is anti-natural, it ends destroying the society... order cannot be a result of chaos.

The Holy Catholic Church supports the syndicalism, as the best weapon the worker has to defend his interests. Syndicalism not only has to be allowed in all the nations, but in some cases, encouraged.
Neo-Anarchos
01-02-2004, 18:29
This can not be! If the cosmos is in order, then there would be justice for all. Then syndicalism would have prevailed long ago and we would see the labour of the many serving the many, and all hierarchy and authority would be abolished.

We understand that this debate is drawing attention from the elections in Swedish Dominions.

This being said, we would like to host a debate in Libertad, Neo-Anarchos' capital. Invited are all nations who want to attend, and libertarian socialist and christian nations in particular.

The point of the debate would be to destroy the prejudices anarchists, along with other socialists have against organized religion, and vice versa, our particular focus being the christian church, as one of the dominant religions on this earth.

Also, we would like to discuss the pros and cons on controversial issues our doctrines are likely to disagree on, such as homosexuality, drug use, the right to abortion and state control.

We hope you will answer positively to this strike for mutual understanding through a telegram. If so, we shall present our invitation to the world at our soonest convenience. Back to SDNBN.
01-02-2004, 19:10
In the International News tonight, the Chief Socialist President was furious to hear one of his International Brethren call a "Socialist Democracy" Communism. In return, the Chief Socialist President sent this offical reply to the Internation Brethren of the Swedish Dominions:

Chief Socialist President Thomas Alexandri Ha'Goth

My Fellow International Brethren, I come unto you to speak on behalf of Socialism in all nations, mainly the nations of the USSNR. I ask you not to consider us a Communist State, for we are NOT as such. Nodea Rudav fought a long and bloody battle against an Imperialistic Empire that was Oppresive, Vicious, and Uncaring of its Peoples needs. Henceforth once we started the battle of Rudavia, we shed our blood for the Land of Nodea Rudav to exist today.

My People did not shed their blood in vain on these lands, for before you speaks a President whom leads his people BY their Voice, BY their Will. Socialist Democracy, to our definitions, is FAR from Communism. This Nation was founded on Socialist Order and Democracy to ENSURE that its Brave and Good people LEAD the Nation by their Voice and Will, not by some leader whom listens not to no one but himself.

You see, my International Brethren, I may call you Comrade Brethren, but that means I am calling you a Friend who is Family no matter the difference, which is an honor to behold if someone from Nodea Rudav trusts another, even from outside. We do not follow Communism, although we shall support a Nation who is Communist and LISTENS to their Peoples Voice and Will, for if they do not, we shall never Listen to them.

Do not be fooled International Comrade Brethren, for to us a Socialist Democracy means that Our Nation is For The People, Created By The People, and Forever shall Protect the Voice and Will of The People. Let none say nay to this, for it is true. Our term of Socialism means Brotherhood and Sisterhood among individuals not even related by blood, for that is our way of friendship. We care, and when the People act, it shall only be in Defense of Their Nation or Allies whom Care for the People.

Thank you, Comrade Brethren Swedish Dominions, and May the Peoples God, Lord God Almighty, Be of Blessing to Your Leader and Your People. Good Night.

Chief Socialist President Thomas Alexandri Ha'Goth

Amazing, every time he loves to ensure Nodea Rudav is never mistaken for something else....Well, in Military News....
Letila
01-02-2004, 19:17
Communism isn't dehumanizing, government is. It loweres the average person to a fool who needs supermen to protect him from himself.

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Neo-Anarchos
02-02-2004, 00:14
The free nation of Letila is invited as a voice for anarchism, of course. We will give your delegation a royal(no pun intended) welcome.
Communist Louisiana
02-02-2004, 03:59
Communist Louisiana
02-02-2004, 04:00
Its sad that you think that way Holy Catholic Church. My country is 93% Roman Catholic as I am. But, I notice that you have been highly influenced by capitalist propaganda. You ask do communists believe in god? Do they outlaw religion?

The simple answer to this is some communists believe in god, some don't. Gus Hall, the former chair of the CPUSA says, "Our fight is not with God, but with capitalists." Freedom of religion would continue under communism--as long as the organized religion does not seek to destroy the system and replace it with capitalism or any other earlier system (such as slavery or feudalism).

I wish the church would understand that the old USSR(RL) was not communist. It was a dictatorship after Lenin. Soviet Russia had classes. The government officials enjoyed fine foods while the people starved.

But, What do you call a system that promotes selfishness, exploitation, racism and police brutality, military intervention, discrimination against women; a system that robs young people of jobs and educational opportunities, and allows communities to be overrun by drugs and disease?

What do you call a system that puts people out on the streets, lets children go hungry, leaves the sick and elderly without care; allows a few to become obscenely wealthy and powerful, while the majority live in greater and greater poverty and powerlessness?

Do you call it inhumane? Unjust? Crazy?

You can call it that, but you can also call it capitalism.

Now, What do you call a system that promotes community, economic justice and equality; peace among nations, outlaws racial and sexual discrimination and police brutality?

What do you call a system that houses the homeless, feeds the hungry, takes care of the sick and elderly; rebuilds our cities and schools, provides jobs and education to all and puts the power of the government into the hands of the multi-racial working people not multi-billion dollar corporations?

Do you call it humane? Just? Rational?

You can call it that, but you can also call it communism.
imported_Isla Saudade
02-02-2004, 05:11
We fullly support our Anarchist and Communist comrades and we would like such a meeting to happen in the Neo-Anarchos's Capital City.

We also hate a religion who prefers capitalism over "communism" because of the "independence" it "gives", and who claims that the political ideology that attemps to bring the most realistic, flexible, efficient and democratic organization is "anti-natural" and "chaotic", especially considering that such an irrational, old-fashioned, repressive religion has been an instrument used by the capitalist exploiters to control people's minds with their heaven and hell lie, and also considering that such an anti-freedom religion believes on a god which is very totalitarian, authoritarian, reactionary, shwoing that such a religion support dictatorships and anti-democratic governments, and showing that they are a well-thought lie to control the masses.

We will be there if such a meeting as the one Neo-Anarchos' representative suggested. And we are glad that capitalism is in danger in Swedish Dominions.
Neo-Anarchos
02-02-2004, 12:40
We ask that Isla Saudade refrain from their confrontative rhetoric if they wish to join the debate - While you are allowed to say whatever you want inside Neo-Anarchos(naturally), the debate is intended to mediate the preconceptions and prejudices we as political and religious doctrines might have towards one another.
Dischordiac
02-02-2004, 14:16
order cannot be a result of chaos.

Funny that. Did not the Catholic Church begin with the death of Christ? Must we not all die before we can ascend to the kingdom of Heaven in Catholic doctrine. We are destroying to build because there cannot be rebirth without death.

Vas.
Swedish Dominions
02-02-2004, 17:38
stop hijacking my thread!
03-02-2004, 01:47
For respect for the thread, I will not answer any imputation.
If any nation wishes to discuss something with an emissary of the Holy Catholic Church, start a topic, and we will send him.

Pope Julius V
Neo-Anarchos
03-02-2004, 13:36
Swedish>>

The people of Neo-Anarchos extends a formal apology for this break of etiquette - We WILL contact all parties present for the debate, and we return to SDBN to follow the elections with great excitement.

Regards,
Foreign Council, NA.