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~Chinese Forces Storefront - *Grand Opening*

30-01-2004, 03:52
OOC: For those of you who don't know, Chinese Army is a puppet gained by Zoogie when a friend left. Quite handy, really, with its large population. I managed to get it up to frightening economy from Powerhouse soon enough, and have decided it's high time to offer some developed products for sale. Excuse me as I'm not great on ship statistics; I have gathered much information from this site: http://www.kitsune.addr.com

Chinese Forces Storefront

F/A-26 Advanced Next-Gen Multi-Role Stealth Fighter

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload7/jxx.jpg

After years of development, Chinese Army has finally released its J-XX project to the world. An advanced, highly maneuverable 5th generation multirole fighter, the F/A-26 takes advantage of shape, anti-radar, special engines, and internal bays to maintain a highly low RCS. However, its internal bays are limited in size, capable of carrying only four AIM-120C AMRAAM missiles in the center bays (or two GBU-32 JDAM precision munitions) and two AIM-9x missiles on the side bays. Therefore, in many cases, at the expense of some stealth (though anti-radar keeps most of it), wing and wingtip pylons are mounted. Usually four anti-ship missiles or AGM-65 Mavericks are hung underwing, while AIM-9X missiles are placed on the wingtip. Two powerful engines with extremely capable 3D thrust vectoring (automated) allow for an additional maneuverability improvement. Many computer systems leave the pilot free to concentrate on maneuvering his aircraft ? in close combat mode, he needn?t squeeze the trigger for bullets to be fired from his twin cannons. With advanced avionics and excellent guidance systems, as well as an information-relay channel, this fast aircraft will serve as Chinese Army?s primary fighter and strike aircraft. A combat-capable two-seat trainer (F/A-26B) has been ordered as well, which also doubles as a more than effective reconnaissance aircraft. When stripped of its reconnaissance equipment, it best serves as a trainer which can carry more weapons in the inner bays. An advanced STOVL version allows for extremely short take-offs and landings, even on full weight, which uses much more thrust vectoring (manual and automated) for use on amphibious assault ships. This aircraft is smaller, and can carry only one pilon on each wing (wingtip aside), but in most cases can carry bundles of weapons (such as two anti-ship missiles per pylon) so as to simulate two pilons. The small size is due to the fact that it needs to fit on smaller amphibious assault ships. Finally, a naval version (F/A-26C) has been developed for the Chinese Navy. With an enlargened wing, the naval version is capable of even more thrust and fuel.

Statistics time!



F/A-26

Crew: 1 (2 for B version)
Powerplant: Two Es-245 afterburning turbothrust engines with combined 62,000-lbs thrust; Two EsS-245-1740 for F/A-26B variant with combined 73,000-lbs thrust; Two Es-245-1860 for F/A-26C variant with combined 66,000-lbs thrust; all above have automated 3D thrust vectoring to a +/- 50 degree level; Two Es-245-1900 for F/A-26D ASTOVL variant with 57,000-lbs thrust and 3D thrust vectoring to +120/-100 level.
Performance: Ceiling 60,000 feet for all versions; A: Max speed Mach 2.43, cruise speed Mach 1.62 B: Max speed Mach 2.86; cruise speed Mach 1.97; C: Max speed Mach 2.45; cruise speed Mach 1.61; D: Max speed Mach 2.27; cruise speed Mach 1.42
Armament: Internal center bays capable of housing four AIM-120 or AIM-9 or Mark 82-type missiles and bombs, or two GBU-32 JDAM guided munitions. Side bays capable of housing two AIM-9 (or similar) heat-seeking dogfighting missiles; another two can be added on the wing. Additionally there are four wing pylons to mount a variety of stores. Dual internal 20mm 600-rounds each cannons controlled by computer or manually.
RCS Factor: 100% at full internal; 92% when activating side bays or when dropping ammunition from bottom bays; 83%-86% (varying b/w models) with wing and wingtip pylons
Price: F/A-26A MultiRole Fighter: $62 million F/A-26B Two-Seat Reconaissance/Combat capable Trainer: $67 million F/A-26C Naval Variant: $68 million F/A-26D ASTOVL Variant: $64 million
Contracts: 1624 F/A-26A, 448 F/A-26B, 768 F/A-26C; 392 F/A-26D (Total 4 year, $170 billion contract)


F -27 Next-Gen Multi-Role Fighter

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img004/lfs_001.jpg

Needing a much cheaper variant of the F/A-26 to be mass-produced (yes, even more mass produced) and to serve as an entirely different type of multirole fighter, design initiated on the F-27. The idea was that this fighter would boast extreme maneuverability, low-RCS, and be a light, cheap fighter able to carry a fair amount of missiles externally while using speed and anti-radar to allude enemies. The fighter would be excellent in one role at a time ? that is, the multi-role fighter could be an excellent interceptor and an excellent air base assaulter, but not at the same time in the same aircraft. The result was a lightweight aircraft able to carry a wide range of weapons, and with low observability so as to be able to be deployed in large numbers doing different roles. Tests conducted show excellent air combat, anti-ship and submarine strike, air base assault, deep infiltration, and suppression of enemy air defenses. And at a price in the 30 millions range, with both air, naval, and marine versions, this flexible fighter will serve in great numbers alongside the F/A-26 in our air force. Naval variants, trainers, and a lift-fan STOVL design have also been developed.

F-27

Crew: 1 (2 for B version)
Powerplant: One Es-242 afterburning turbofan engines with 28,500-lbs thrust; One EsS-242-2280 for F/A-26B variant with 36,000-lbs thrust; One Es-245-2310 for F/A-26C variant with 38,000-lbs thrust; all above have automated 3D thrust vectoring to a +/- 40 degree level; Two Es-245-2380 for F/A-26D ASTOVL variant with 31,000-lbs thrust and 3D thrust vectoring to +100/-90 level.
Performance: Ceiling 60,000 feet for all versions; A: Max speed Mach 2.43, cruise speed Mach 1.62 B: Max speed Mach 2.86; cruise speed Mach 1.97; C: Max speed Mach 2.45; cruise speed Mach 1.61; D: Max speed Mach 2.27; cruise speed Mach 1.42
Armament: 20mm, 6-barrel internal cannon with 720 rounds; four fuselage hardpoints, four wing hardpoints, and two wingtip hardpoints capable of either AIM-120 type missiles or AIM-9X missiles. Centerline fuel tank also configurable
RCS Factor: 83%-87%, varying between models
Price: F-27A MultiRole Fighter: $41 million F-27B Two-Seat Combat capable Trainer: $67 million F-27C Naval Variant: $68 million F-27D ASTOVL Variant: $64 million
Contracts: Classified



F-24 Air Superiority Fighter






Fleet Command LCF Frigate

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/LCF/lcf01.jpg
Please look here:
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/LCF/information.htm

$560 million ? 40 by Zoogie and 125 by Chinese Army.


Ponibimini-class Cruiser

A nuclear-powered cruiser, the Ponibimini-class is China?s first entry into a large warship. Several VLS launchers are used to give the cruiser more advanced and effective missile delivery systems, while phase-array radar helps pinpoint targets. Two 160mm gun turrets are, as seen, on either end of the vessel, and a wide array of VLS and missile/torpedo launchers are fitted on the aft and sides. Four VLS systems are located on the ship, as well as torpedo launchers for anti-submarine and ship warfare. Two of these, one on each side, are for anti-aircraft purposes. Three missile defense launchers are also fitted on the ship, as well a helicopter hanger for up to four aircraft or two VTOL/ASTOVL aircraft (only one can launch at a time) and also fitted are two chaff launchers. A versatile vessel capable of launching the next-generation stealth JSF F-35 aircraft, and provide effective missile attack/defense capabilities, the Ponibimini-class is used widely in service in the Chinese navy today. $1.4 billion ? 40 vessels have been ordered by The Zoogie People and 120 by Chinese Army over the next ten years.

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Australian_Devonshire_Missile_Cruiser-small.gif





Light Aircraft Carrier

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Canadian_Magnificent_Light_Aircraft_Carrier-small.gif
A light aircraft carrier with three missile defense systems, two VLS systems, and two each of anti-ship and anti-air missile systems. Anti-aircraft guns also are scattered across the flight deck. A much larger carrier than standard light carriers, this can carry roughly fifty aircraft. ASTOVL aircraft are mostly suited to this role. Primary configuration: 20 F-35B, 18 F-26B, 8 S-7, 4 E-12, 10 F/A-18E/F, 10 F/A-27C.

$2.6 billion ? 25 are in use by The Zoogie People and 50 by Chinese Army; with a further 20 ordered by each.


Infiltration LAV-22 Crab Stealth Vehicle

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/IA_LAV-400_Renegade_Scout.gif

A very fast scout vehicle intended for infiltration or just?well?scouting, the Crab, as it has been informally nicknamed, is one of the most useful vehicles in the service of the Zoogie People and Chinese Army. With signs of the future showing in all sorts of places, the armoured vehicle boasts speeds of up to 50mph on all terrains, thanks to its wheeled, rather than tracked, system. A 360-degree around, 85 degree up mobile turret on the top combines a very rapid-fire machine gun to destroy infantry, and a grenade launcher. Can destroy other vehicles, but can angle high enough to have use against aircraft. Several hundred grenades are storeable in this grenade launcher, and both guns in the main turret have a range of roughly 3 miles. On either side of the vehicle, on the wheel, are smoke grenade launchers (12 in each), useful for clearing mobs. Tear gas may also be used in these grenades. In addition, an optional heavy machine gun can be mounted to the very top, where a person can manually command it by operating out of the top of the vehicle. Twin missile launchers can carry a variety of missile types. They are detachable. AGM-114K Hellfire missiles can be loaded, 6 on each side, or twenty total AT-2 ?Swatter? missiles. In addition, a missile that is similar to that of a slightly enlarged LAU-10 rocket can be used; roughly sixty of these can be fitted total and can be used in volleys of 2, 6, or 10. Price ? 1 million. Roughly 25,000 have been ordered by The Zoogie People and 176,000 by Chinese Army.


If you are in the NNA or IUSS or LoD, a 5% deduction will be taken off all purchases. Please specify, though :P or I won't know you're in the IUSS/LoD.
30-01-2004, 04:40
Real-Life China Products

Look around at sinodefence.com.

If they have it, we make it, and we can sell it. Just ask, and provide a link.

Per request of Shinoxia, I have come up with these:


http://sinodefence.com/army/tank/type98_3.jpg
Type 98 Main Battle Tank
http://sinodefence.com/army/tank/type98.asp

$3.14 million



http://sinodefence.com/army/armour/wz551_1.jpg
WZ-551
Wheeled Armoured Vehicle
http://sinodefence.com/army/armour/wz551.asp

$1.3 million



http://sinodefence.com/army/armour/type86_1.jpg
WZ-501 IFV, WZ-503 APC, -504 ATGM, -505 Armoured Ambulance, -506 Armoured Command.

-501 ($1.3 million) -503, -505 ($1.4 million), -504, -506 ($1.6 million)
Anti-Tank:

http://sinodefence.com/army/armour/type86_3.jpg
30-01-2004, 04:41
30-01-2004, 04:42
Reserved.
30-01-2004, 04:42
Reserved.
Shinoxia
30-01-2004, 04:42
1,000 Sneaky Crab stealth vehicles please.

~1 billion wired upon comfirmation~

I'm undergoing a revolution in my military technology so if you have any IFVs, LAVs, or any other type of fighting vehicle let me know.

BTW your 760 million asking price for a Frigate is way too high.
30-01-2004, 04:43
An accidental triple post! What do I do?...


"This post is RESERVED."
30-01-2004, 04:45
Oops...sorry...triple post. Well, quadruple. Confirmed.
30-01-2004, 04:50
Right, look on sinodefence.com for an IFV, LAV, or anything. If it's there, I can sell it to you :P But on my storefront, no. You'll have to find it first...h/o I'll check for you.
30-01-2004, 05:07
Found some - MBT, Wheeled AV, IFV.


From now on, if anyone requests any category of stuff not avail on my storefront, search at sinodefence.com and find one (link to me) or I can find you one...and I will add it to the second post in this thread, with picture, name, price, and link to description.
Soviet alliance
30-01-2004, 06:34
i will buy 100 Type 98 tanks for $314 million money wired.
30-01-2004, 23:46
Confirmed.
30-01-2004, 23:54
I would like 500 Sneaky Crab stealth vehicles.

Thats 500 million.

~money wired upon confirmation~
30-01-2004, 23:55
30-01-2004, 23:56
I would like 500 Sneaky Crab stealth vehicles.

Thats 500 million.

~money wired upon confirmation~
30-01-2004, 23:56
I would like 500 Sneaky Crab stealth vehicles.

Thats 500 million.

~money wired upon confirmation~
DemonicYoshis
31-01-2004, 00:02
I would like 500 sneaky crabs

Thats 500million


mony given opon delivery
31-01-2004, 00:08
Both confirmed.
01-02-2004, 18:17
Here's a peak at what's coming next, an air superiority fighter.

http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_lfi/MiG-LFI_uvod.jpg
01-02-2004, 18:32
Peek, sorry.
Kazakhstania
01-02-2004, 18:56
Hey!

I am using that :evil:

You nicked the Type 98 too.

Ah, damn the internet, someones always stealing your idea :wink:
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:54
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion, "money wired"
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:56
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion "money wired"
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:56
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:58
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion "money wired"
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:58
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion "money wired"
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 19:59
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 20:00
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion "money wired"
Novoya Rosiya
01-02-2004, 20:01
send me:
2 Ponioiimini-Class Cruisers, $2.8 billion "money wired"
03-02-2004, 00:06
03-02-2004, 00:07
Ah well...I found that a while ago and owndered when I was going to use it. The T-98 I didn't nick from you, it's an actual tank. But I see you've used it for your MBT? ... :P Oops...sorry...although, per se, they were Russia and China's ideas.

Novoya Rosiya, confirmed.
Kazakhstania
03-02-2004, 20:58
Sorry, but...GAH!

lol :wink:
05-02-2004, 04:03
To be honest, I've no idea how much they cost - we'd have to negotiate on that. My initial guesses would be $250k for the armed FAV and $10 mil for the gun...but...I'm not sure.
05-02-2004, 04:03
To be honest, I've no idea how much they cost - we'd have to negotiate on that. My initial guesses would be $250k for the armed FAV and $10 mil for the gun...but...I'm not sure.
The Zoogie People
08-02-2004, 20:41
:arrow:
Kazakhstania
08-02-2004, 22:09
You'd be better with a Kahtan CIWS.

The FAAV is $100,000 and the CIWS I dunno, but the Kahtan is miles better.

Sorry, I should really make a storefront.

The KASHTAN Air Defence Gun/Missile System is intended to provide self-defence for surface ships against high precision weapons (anti-ship and anti-radar missiles, air bombs), fixed and rotary wing aircraft, as well as to engage small sea and coastal targets.

The system is developed as a modular structure comprising a command module and combat modules (from one to six, depending on ship displacement).

The command module ensures IFF procedures, target acquisition and designation, and data generation for gun/missile fire.

The combat module comprises a gun/missile mount, a radar and optical control systems, a computing system, and power supply system. The integrated multi-channel control system provides simultaneous multi-target tracking in the radar and TV-optical modes. The firing turret mounts two blocks of GSh-30K six-barrel automatic guns with linkless feeding system and autonomous evaporation-type cooling system, and two SAM clusters.

The system also includes storing and reloading system to keep 32 SAMs in container-launchers in ship's under-deck spaces. Reloading time for a cluster of four SAMs does not exceed 1.5 min.

The KASHTAN system can be installed on ships with displacement greater than 400 t.


Basic Characteristics


Engagement zone range, km:
Missiles: 1.5 ... 8
Guns: 0.5 ...1.5
Altitude, m from: 5 to 4,000
Maximum target speed,: m/s 600
Kill probability: 0.96 ... 0.98
Number of targets engaged simultaneously: up to 6
Rate of gun fire, rds/min: 10,000 ... 12,000
Cartridge types: 30 mm with HE-Frag and Frag-T projectiles

http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Kashtan.JPG

http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Kashtan2.jpg

Chinese Army, joint project?

Either that or me and Zoogie could fit it on the destroyer.
Kazakhstania
08-02-2004, 22:13
http://www.aviation.ru/www.rusarm.ru/video/9M88_Kortik_Kashtan.wmv
09-02-2004, 00:03
I would like 500 Sneaky Crab stealth vehicles.

Thats 500 million.

*wired upon confermation*
Anasia
09-02-2004, 04:41
2,000 Type 98 Main Battle Tanks 6,280,000,000
5,000 WZ-551 6,500,000,000
1,000 WZ-503 APC 1,400,000,000
1,000 WZ -504 ATGM 1,600,000,000
500 WZ-505 Armoured Ambulances 700,000,000
200 WZ-506 Armoured Commands 320,000,000

Total: 16,800,000,000
The Zoogie People
11-02-2004, 01:01
All confirmed.
Anasia
11-02-2004, 01:35
*money wired*
The Zoogie People
11-02-2004, 01:42
Thank you, your order is on the way.
The Zoogie People
16-02-2004, 17:57
Gah! I hate it when there's a third page...but not really. So here's hoping this post makes the third page real....
Warhammer Syndicate
16-02-2004, 18:50
I would like to inquire about Chinese Type 56 SKS rifles. If you have any of them, I would consider placing a rather large order for them.
Warhammer Syndicate
16-02-2004, 18:51
I would like to inquire about Chinese Type 56 SKS rifles. If you have any of them, I would consider placing a rather large order for them.
The Zoogie People
17-02-2004, 20:13
Yes, I have them...I will look them up ASAP.
Anasia
17-02-2004, 23:41
5000 Type 98 Main Battle Tank. 15,700,000,000 wired when confirmed.
18-02-2004, 02:52
We'd like to order 144 F-17s, of the VTOL variant. We believe the total comes out to 9,216,000,000. Money has been wired in advance.
18-02-2004, 17:02
Both confirmed; Exonerate I'll discount that to $8.8 billion by virtue of alliance.
Anasia
18-02-2004, 18:31
*money wired*
Kazakhstania
18-02-2004, 18:35
Gah! How come you get way more sales than me!

Ah well. Do you still use my things, or just use your own? I'd like to know, because if you use your own ive lost a significant customer :cry:
Warhammer Syndicate
18-02-2004, 18:50
I would like to see some information about those Chinese SKS's that I inquired about. If they are avalible I would seriously consider putting up a large order for them. Best of Luck!!!
The Zoogie People
19-02-2004, 20:48
First, Kazakhstania, Chinese Army still uses your materials; and future purchases will likely be solely A-15s and cargo aircraft...maybe, but probably not Sharkishi in any significant numbers.

Warhammer Syndicate, here's what I turned up: three different types. Which one do you want? Make your offer (# and price) and I'll see what I can do for you...

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56a.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/machinegun_56.asp

None of them have SKS on them; I'm not sure what SKS means...
The Zoogie People
19-02-2004, 20:48
First, Kazakhstania, Chinese Army still uses your materials; and future purchases will likely be solely A-15s and cargo aircraft...maybe, but probably not Sharkishi in any significant numbers.

Warhammer Syndicate, here's what I turned up: three different types. Which one do you want? Make your offer (# and price) and I'll see what I can do for you...

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56a.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/machinegun_56.asp

None of them have SKS on them; I'm not sure what SKS means...
The Zoogie People
19-02-2004, 20:49
First, Kazakhstania, Chinese Army still uses your materials; and future purchases will likely be solely A-15s and cargo aircraft...maybe, but probably not Sharkishi in any significant numbers.

Warhammer Syndicate, here's what I turned up: three different types. Which one do you want? Make your offer (# and price) and I'll see what I can do for you...

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_56a.asp

http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/machinegun_56.asp

None of them have SKS on them; I'm not sure what SKS means...
Warhammer Syndicate
19-02-2004, 23:57
I would like to purchase the SKS found on your 1st link that you provided me. I would like 100,000 individual units for 475,000 dollars.
The Zoogie People
20-02-2004, 00:19
Um...I'm sorry, but I think they'd be worth more than $4.75 apiece...I will sell you 100,000 at $36 million, however....($360/piece)
Kazakhstania
20-02-2004, 10:50
http://sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_95.asp

I think that might be it.

Anyway, I am loosing sales from allies. You must be getting bored of my stuff :wink:
Warhammer Syndicate
20-02-2004, 18:02
How about 100,000 for 33 million!?!
The Zoogie People
20-02-2004, 18:38
Alright...deal. Kaz, its not that im not interested, its that my computer crashed, I have to get back to my old military dossier, upgrade it, and fit it into my Great Big Scheme of Thigns to decide how many of what I need :P
Chao master
20-02-2004, 20:02
I would like to purchase 4 Ponibimini-class Cruiser's and 2 light aircraft carriers.
21-02-2004, 00:15
I'll buy 50 Type 98 Main Battle Tank s. I'll wire you the money upon confirmation.
The Zoogie People
21-02-2004, 19:03
Okay, both confirmed.
Penguisiana
09-04-2004, 22:07
I'll take one of everything
10-04-2004, 00:18
i will buy 100,000,000,000 Type 98 tanks for $314 tril money wired.