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Dear Esteemed Delegate,
The Burnsian Desert cordially invites you to attend the Burnsian State Dinner, where we will discuss political and military issues, along with friendly banter and chat. The cost is free for deligates, and it is for government-associated people only. Queen Rachel Romalia, having fifteen years, will announce her pick for her future husband at this dinner. If you are to attend, please choose a meal. Appitizers, drinks ect. will be ordered on the spot at the dinner. Young ones are welcome. Please tell us of any medical conditions (special food, diabetic, ect.) Thank you for considering.

Her Highness Queen Rachel Romalia:
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The Entrees:

Cajun Pork Roast
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Chicken Parmesian
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Steak
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Pizza for the Young Ones
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King Charles Griffendorn would like to attend. He would like to eat steak. He would like to build relations with your nation. He would like to get confirmation as soon as it comes avilable.


Sandra Moss
Personal aid to King Charles Griffendorn

The Tsar of Dr_Twist, King of the Bulgarian Empire Philip the 18th Would like to attend the State Dinner, because of the relationship between our Nations.

F'nor and his brother F'lar will be attending. F'nor you know and F'lar is his older brother and since Acoma house has no male heirs but 2 femal ones F'lar is tne next emporer.
We assume an houner gaurd is allowed for our future emporer

The Cubans would like to send one of its appointed Delegate Revolutionaries to attend the Dinner. Dont get a wrong impression of the title "Revolutionary". Any peaceloving country will see that my people are fighters for truth and what is right. We will be sending our newly appointed Delegate Captain Pancho Villa.
He will be wearing his best formal attire, and I give you my assurance, NO scruffy camo garb, NO gredades straps, NO belts of Bullets.
Best Dress.
We are a small nation, but we believe a great nation must build relations and become friends with others in order to grow and survive.
With Honor.

The Peoples Republic of The Cubans

The Cubans would like to send one of its appointed Delegate Revolutionaries to attend the Dinner. Dont get a wrong impression of the title "Revolutionary". Any peaceloving country will see that my people are fighters for truth and what is right. We will be sending our newly appointed Delegate Captain Pancho Villa.
He will be wearing his best formal attire, and I give you my assurance, NO scruffy camo garb, NO gredades straps, NO belts of Bullets.
Best Dress.
We are a small nation, but we believe a great nation must build relations and become friends with others in order to grow and survive.
With Honor.

The Peoples Republic of The Cubans

Prince Winston Crusade, the uncle of the King of the Five Civilized Nations will be honored to participate in the state dinner. He will be escorted by twenty Black Watch Guardsmen. He would like to have the Cajun Pork Roast. He's only problem is that he is lactose intolerant (can't handle milk).

As a wedding gift for your queen, we will offer you a gift of US$200 million as part of the dowry, a map from the 11th century depicting the world, and the compiled works of Confucius and his disciple, Menicus.

(OOC: Isn't a one course meal a little small for a state dinner?)

His Excelency, the Honorable Prime Minister Adrian Montfort, elected leader of the Honorable Sovereign Republic of Montfortslavia and the Special Mandate of Leidestrad would like to confirm that he will be assisting the dinner.

As a token of good-will, the Prime Minister will be presenting to Her Highness Queen Rachel Romalia, the Condecoration of the Order of the White Eagle. That is the highest condecoration granted by the Government to a foreign dignatary.

Also the Prime Minister is very much interested in establishing relations with the nation The Burnsian Desert and The Cubans, and also invites all nations to visit the new government website ( www.freewebs.com/montfortslavia ) for aditional information on establishing diplomatic relations between our nations.

Once more, our gratitude for this invitation and we hope for great benefits might come from this gathering.
With high regards,

The Office of The Prime Minister
Sarajevo, Montfortslavia

President Johnathan Adar and first lady Laura Adar would like to attend the State Dinner, with the proper security of course. The President will have the Steak while the first lady wil partake of the chicken. We would like to discuss future relations, trade agreements, etc. for the whole of Ceti Alpha V.
We shall also present the princess with a Le-Matya the official animal of our country as a gift of friendship.

Horizon Island would like to attend. We shall be sending Admiral Jason Kingsly (yes, related to one Micheal Kingsly, who is one of the men competing for the Queen's hand, this is his Uncle). The Prime Minister would come, but he is unavailible at the moment, attending a meeting on terrorism in Redhawks.

The President of Foreign Affairs, Rhonda McCabe and her life-partner Gabriel Gonzalez of Squeezitlanda would like to attend. The President of Domestic Affairs would attend, but the nation doesn't think it is best if both Presidents attend the same function. Gabriel would like the pizza, and Rhonda would like to know if a vegan dish would be available.

From the desk of the President

His Eminency President Dionysus Baccheus will attend and wishes to be served the chicken parmesian. The President will arrive shortly in his private jet, the strictest security is requested.

We hope this meeting will bring our nations into closer relations and foster peace and goodwill.

All of your orders have been confirmed. Thank you for attending!

OOC: The bull bump ed the fence. CODE! CODE!

His Majesty King Richard Gustaf Windsor Essex Coburg-Gratha III of the small, yet mighty Kingdom of New Goatland gracefully accepts your generous invitation.

As a token of our nation's appreciation, we will bringing with out entourage a shipment of New Goatland's finest cheeses, truly fit for royalty.

Thank you for attending. Which entree will you have? Also, thank you again for the cheese. It will be used in the Queen's own cheese-and-meat sandwiches, the most pivotal part of a Burnsian dinner.

I would like to attend with my wife, Rachel and son Ryan. I will have the steak dinner; medium well. My wife will also have the steak dinner but make hers medium rare. Also, my wife is lactose intolerant, so no dairy for her. My son will have the pizza (he so UNcivilized). We will be bringing the finest pearl necklace in our nation as a gift.

-Jean Fredrick
Prime Minister of TA

Thank you very much for the gift. We highly value pearls in TBD.

I'll attend. It will be just myself coming to the actual dinner. However, my security this time will be the 1st Armored Division. This will be to ensure my security and to start defending your capital in view of the upcoming war.

P.S. I'll take the steak.

President Karm Messner


1st Armored Divsion:
21,000 personnel
100 Artillery Pieces
200 Tanks
300 IFV and about 3,600 Infantry
85 Helicopters
(If I need better statistics, I have them)

Correpsondance from the Desk of Ernesto "Che" Guervara:

The Burnsian Desert, I would be much honored to attend your Dinner. I am also accompanying a smaller nation in my Region, The Cubans, as we helped liberate them from the evil Dictator Fellatio Batista.

I dont see the need to bring an entire amoured division with you to the nation, commenting on Greenhome. Am I missing something? What's the deal?

Well, back to topic, I would much be honored and would like the Cajun Pork Roast. (to be different.)


El Comandante Che

Correpsondance from the Desk of Ernesto "Che" Guervara:

The Burnsian Desert, I would be much honored to attend your Dinner. I am also accompanying a smaller nation in my Region, The Cubans, as we helped liberate them from the evil Dictator Fellatio Batista.

I dont see the need to bring an entire amoured division with you to the nation, commenting on Greenhome. Am I missing something? What's the deal?

Well, back to topic, I would much be honored and would like the Cajun Pork Roast. (to be different.)


El Comandante Che

I'll attend. It will be just myself coming to the actual dinner. However, my security this time will be the 1st Armored Division. This will be to ensure my security and to start defending your capital in view of the upcoming war.

P.S. I'll take the steak.

President Karm Messner


1st Armored Divsion:
21,000 personnel
100 Artillery Pieces
200 Tanks
300 IFV and about 3,600 Infantry
85 Helicopters
(If I need better statistics, I have them)

:shock:
That's not just for you right? That's for the war?
Lol.

El Comandante Che:
Thank you for attending, we have confirmed you order of "CAJUN_PORK_ROAST_1".

Yah, that's for the war. I'm not THAT paranoid! :D

To ensure the safety of our president, we shall post two battlestars, namely the Galactica and the Pegasus, and also the Enterprise with the Hazard team for a quick extraxtion of any leaders or delegates attending if needed. Just tell us in the event and we will bring extra emergency transponders for beam out. We can also help in the war if needed.

I Sheik Mohammed Bin Aldeeb, would be most pleased to attend such an event.
Begging your pardon however and no offense to your gracious hospitality, I require bringing three or four attendents to prepare my food, for religious reasons. However I would be happy to place them at your disposal while I am present so that any other delegates or national leaders who require their food be Halal, can be easily provided for.
All-h's blessings be upon you.
Sheik Mohammed Bin Aldeeb, of The Bedou Nomads.

The Admiral shall have the Parmisan Chicken.

On another note, HI forces are preparing for deployment in the defence of TBD. The forces that are being prepared:

2nd Armoured Div. - M1A2 Abrams Equipped
349th Armoured Infantry Div. - Diemaco C7 (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/38.jpg), Coyote DFSV (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/42.jpg), LAV III (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/48.jpg), and Bison APC (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/26.jpg) Equipped
189th Feild Artillery Div. - M109A4, ADATS (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/29.jpg) Equipped
31st Marine Div. - M16A4 Equipped
1st Naval Assault Fleet - Centered around 2 Nimitz carriers
134th Strike Sqd. - F-117, AC130 Spectre Equipped
378th Tactical Airlift Sqd. - C5 Galaxy, C130 Equipped
31st Airborne Div. - Diemaco C8 Carbine (http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Images/2_0/22.jpg) Equipped
123rd Tactical Fighter Sqd. - F15, F16 Equipped
1st Airborne Rangers Div. - C8 Carbine Equipped
26th Special Forces Group - Diemaco SFW (http://www.diemaco.com/images/sal-sfw.gif) Equipped

Premier Valkaday would be muuch pleased if he could attend this Dinner.
However, as of recent Circumstances he would have to take a retinue of at least five Secret Service. They would only be armed with M9 Berretas, and would not attend the actual Dinner. Is this ok ?
Oh yea, and he wants Pizza and Cajun Pork Roast. please.

Hogsweat 1st Infantry division will be helping the Defense of TBD capital.

15,000 Light Infantry, Assorted AT weapons, M16A2s.

250 AT Guns.

OOC: For god sake...

Can you people STOP number wanking...

IC:

Terrorist 1: "This is a perfect oppurtunnity to get our revenge on the TBD royals. The moment we've been waiting for. with many officials also attending it will be like killing two birds with one stone"

Terrorist 2: "Yes, Dr.Twists' officials are also attending - those pigs that tried foolishly to stain our honour! I want no officials left alive...I'll authorise a Hind-D, with a few teams of Terror Ops"

Terrorist 1: "And Imperial Heaven's involvement? They'd make an excellent addition to our forces. GLA Ops could lend a hand also, although It's extremely differcult to contact them"

Terrorist 2: "I'll see what I can do, I'm not sure about GLA, and Imperial Heaven has ongoing operations"

List of Targets at the dinner
El Comandante Che - (For invading Cubans)
The Burnsian Desert - (For betraying both IH's and the PC)
Dr_Twist - (For invading TBD)
The Cubans - (For betraying its leaders)
Five Civilized Nations - (nation might resist us with his 20 strong Black Watch team. We don't negotiate...if they get in the way which they will, our teams will have to kill them)

From Credonia to TBD
Credonia would like to send a delegate to this special night as a way to strengthen somewhat strained relations between Credonia and TBD. We are looking forward to this event. The name of our delgate will not be released until he/she arrives. The delegate will be protected by a small armed secret service escort force to ensure his/her safety for the duration of the dinner.

For dinner, the delegate requests lasagna, garlic bread, and a chicken caesar salad with ranch dressing along with a couple glasses of red wine. For dessert the delegate requests a small apple pie with french vanilla ice cream on top.

List of Targets at the dinner
El Comandante Che - (For invading Cubans)
The Burnsian Desert - (For betraying both IH's and the PC)
Dr_Twist - (For invading TBD)
The Cubans - (For betraying its leaders)
Five Civilized Nations - (nation might resist us with his 20 strong Black Watch team. We don't negotiate...if they get in the way which they will, our teams will have to kill them)

OOC: Sweet, not everyone wants to kill me.

I, Derik Connolly chairman of the Halladi Socialist Party, would like to attend your dinner. I will have the Chicken Parmesian.

In addition I will be willing to send one thousand infantry men to TBD's capitol to help keep peace. I hope our nations can have better relations in a more peaceful time.

Thank you. All of your attendence has been duly confirmed. Here is our list of defences:

1000 men, divides into 100 SWAT Teams

20 Snipers posted on strategic choke points and rooftops

18 MG-Nests at enterances

Roadblocks and Checkpoints throught the city

1st Tank Div.

Thank you. All of your attendence has been duly confirmed. Here is our list of defences:

1000 men, divides into 100 SWAT Teams

20 Snipers posted on strategic choke points and rooftops

18 MG-Nests at enterances

Roadblocks and Checkpoints throught the city

1st Tank Div.
When will the dinner occur ?

Thank you. All of your attendence has been duly confirmed. Here is our list of defences:

1000 men, divides into 100 SWAT Teams

20 Snipers posted on strategic choke points and rooftops

18 MG-Nests at enterances

Roadblocks and Checkpoints throught the city

1st Tank Div.
When will the dinner occur ?
OOC: Chants "we want food" "we want food"

Thank you. All of your attendence has been duly confirmed. Here is our list of defences:

1000 men, divides into 100 SWAT Teams

20 Snipers posted on strategic choke points and rooftops

18 MG-Nests at enterances

Roadblocks and Checkpoints throught the city

1st Tank Div.
When will the dinner occur ?
OOC: Chants "we want food" "we want food"

Yup. :P

OOC: Either RL Tonight or RL this afternoon US time.

IC: Inner Heaven has our support as always. Those who betray us will regret their mistake in the deepest chasms of Hades. :twisted:

Secret IC: Inner Heaven, we have two Blackhawks ready for dispatch, which will be transporting the Azazel squad to aid you. Other forces shall make themselves known, and strike new fear into the hearts of the infidels.

*SECRET IC* IF you say you know about this u must come up with a really good thought out reason instead of "I just know"


Approx. 50 miles off the coast of TBD. A virginia class submarine sits running silent. 10 Divers disembark headed for an unguraded beach. They are using manned submerisble vechiles and are each carrying a round cylinder in addition to there usual gear.

Hail from the Empire of Kurisu!

We are but a small and recently formed empire, but Emperor Canis Regalis would be humbled should you accept his request to attend. He sends his best regards and has asked me to give you a picture of Bellus, your wedding gift. She is highly trained in the art of espionage and we hope she will serve you well.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/kurisu/Doggy.jpg

The Reich of Zorakia would be honored to send representatives to this dinner. They will have the steak, and will be arriving via private jet at the nearest airport.

A robust man subserviently serves a woman in a grocery store as He fills the brown, paper bag with the purchased vegetables.

“You couldn’t possibly do this any faster young man?! I do have things to do” The women said impatiently.

The man gave no reply, yet continued on with his labour. Unexpectedly an indicator on his watch began to flash red. Switching the flashing light off the man un-strapped his grocery cape and proceeded to leave the store for his car parked outside.

“Excuse me!? Where are you going…I haven’t paid for this!” The women shouted to no avail. As she watched the man get into his car and drive off, leaving with no employee to supervise the store

Using the hands free kit in the car the man phoned up a number.

Car driver: “This is IH-TO1487, signing in – message received”

Unknown manly voice “Good, you’re the last operative – We have set up a rendezvous on your phone – meet us there”

Car driver: “Affirmative”

The Inquisitors pull themselves assure dragging the cylinders behind them and stationing them in the middle of the beach covered slightly by the sand.

They position them selves in a semi circle around the cylinders with MP5s at the ready waiting for there contacts to arrive.

30 minutes later

The car pulled up to a mini bus, flashing its headlights to indicate its authenticity.

“Great, check IH-TO1487, our last operative on our list he is here now” The commander said on the minibus as his suspicions eased as the car flashed its headlights.

“Lieutenant…tell the men to sit tight, also make sure you debrief our last operative, I’m going to secure our gear from our benefactors” The commander said as he left the minibus, making his way down the shores of TBD where he approached the armed team positioned in a semicircle.

”Greetings my brethren, do you have the package and our gear?” The Commander said cheerfully to the team of men.

The captain points to the cylinders and a few boxes(filled with some basic handhelps weapons). He motions with his hand for 2 of his men to pick up the boxes and to bring them to the van.
"Is everything going according to plan?"

The Tsar of Dr_Twist will Arrive in the Dr_Twist Military Base shortly and will be Under Heavy Security.

IC: You will not be able to get into the Base no Matter what security is way to Heavy.

3 Hours Before the Dinner Starts 800 Dr_Twist SAS troops will be Flown into where the Dinner is with 300 Secret Service Men. They will all go Throw the Dinner Area with a Comb and wont leave anything un Turned, any 1 trying to go near the dinner or get in will be checked completely 1st.

Dr_Twist SAS troops will be all around the Building Protecting the Tsar and Guest's. Emergency Evac Helicopters will be on Standby to Evacuate the Guess and the Tsar to the Dr_Twist Military base in case of an Emergency.

IC: My SAS troops are EXTREMLY Highly trained, so it will be extremely hard to kill them / out gun them.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

30 minutes later

The car pulled up to a mini bus, flashing its headlights to indicate its authenticity.

“Great, check IH-TO1487, our last operative on our list he is here now” The commander said on the minibus as his suspicions eased as the car flashed its headlights.

“Lieutenant…tell the men to sit tight, also make sure you debrief our last operative, I’m going to secure our gear from our benefactors” The commander said as he left the minibus, making his way down the shores of TBD where he approached the armed team positioned in a semicircle.

”Greetings my brethren, do you have the package and our gear?” The Commander said cheerfully to the team of men.

Ok...

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

Wrong!

I have my 5th Fleet there atm, I have A Navy Army and Airforce Base on a Island of his, they arn't his ships there mine!

And they completely cover every square inch of the beaches there? Last I checked a submarine is not easy to detect.

And they completely cover every square inch of the beaches there? Last I checked a submarine is not easy to detect.

1. I didn't say that.

2. I am a Very Advanced Nation so detecting 1 Sub anit hard.

3. My Fleets are extremly big.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

you have every single beach guarded with troops? every mile of coastline is guarded? Thats extremely difficult to achieve. And exactly how many soldiers guard each mile of beach.

Also my submarine is 50 miles out thats international waters. For all you know it could just be a sub on missile patrol.

unguraded beach.

beach SSM installations.[/quote]

They don't have to have troops.

whats a SSM station?

Surface-to-Surface Missile.

Or they can have chainguns. Most are controlled from the TBDMDB, (The Burnsian Desert Main Defence Bunker), deep in the uncharted locales of the Burnsian Mountains.

The Dr_Twist Government has Determined it to be to unsafe in TBD atm, with the Possible war coming up.

We ask all Officials to Leave the Country because they could be in danger.

This is only a Warning Issued by the Dr_Twist Government.

The Tsar will not arrive in TBD and has cancelled at the last Minute.

TBD there would have to be

1. spots in between these SSM stations.

Also

How are these stations monitored?

Are they just going to shoot some random people on a beach or a random vechile?

The United Socialist States Of Communist Rule will attend this banquet. Two men will arrive in a super-sonic bomber coverted to private use. The men will both have steak. They will carry a personal weapon each.

Secret IC (You don't know I'm doing this): Far overhead Auk IV Recon Satellites are taking pictures of every strategic aspect of TBD. Thermal and regular pictures of its waters and coasts, and detailed, high resolution pictures of the dinner grounds itself. Air will be monitored frequently by the supersonic bomber, as it is not only a executive transport but a mobile command post with suped-up radar coverage. (Think AWACS) From Communist Rule, a group of 6 KA-60s have been flying nonstop with aerial refueling. They are 'topped off' outside TBD. They head for the borders flying NOTE (Nap of the Earth {Below radar coverage}) carrying 12 personnel.

OOC: More to come.

I have the AMBSDS, we are at DEFCON 5. Your KA-60s would be... shot down. :(

And they completely cover every square inch of the beaches there? Last I checked a submarine is not easy to detect.

1. I didn't say that.

2. I am a Very Advanced Nation so detecting 1 Sub anit hard.

3. My Fleets are extremly big.

Being high tech is irrelvent.

Dectecting one submarine wouldnt exactly be easier either - detecting a fleet of subs would be easy...yes.

Also, I think our Terror squads are on par with your SAS squads, so stop claiming that they are specialists in the field and hard to kill. There are no good or bad squads...only good and bad leaders

OOC: I should note that units on defense against submarines can use ACTIVE sonar freely. Thus submarines yes, are easy to spot. A big hole in the water, aye.

OOC: I should note that units on defense against submarines can use ACTIVE sonar freely. Thus submarines yes, are easy to spot. A big hole in the water, aye.

...Read Belem's post.

Look. the sensors on our starships could detect how many nose hairs you have, so i think that we can detect a sub. If TBD want's our assistance in detecting subd during the banquet,we will be more than welcome to bw of assistance.

OOC: What, sitting 'silent'? A nuclear sub is always producing the sounds of a reactor water being cycled. Also, active sonar isn't listening. Its painting a picture of the water below. Side-scan sonar could be on those ships as well.

Look. the sensors on our starships could detect how many nose hairs you have, so i think that we can detect a sub. If TBD want's our assistance in detecting subd during the banquet,we will be more than welcome to bw of assistance.

Goronkoth = Ignored.

Fair point Communist Rule.

OOC: I should note that units on defense against submarines can use ACTIVE sonar freely. Thus submarines yes, are easy to spot. A big hole in the water, aye.


OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"
Also there are ways to limit the active sonars detection ability, for example my subs use pitted rubber over there metal hulls to help mask there signature.

Look. the sensors on our starships could detect how many nose hairs you have, so i think that we can detect a sub. If TBD want's our assistance in detecting subd during the banquet,we will be more than welcome to bw of assistance.

Future tech doesnt count in a present tech RP. :roll: You'll just be ignored.

OOC: He stated he has a FLEET. Surface ships are OBVIOUSLY there. They sound like whales humping next to a microphone to submariens. THEREFORE surface ships almost always use active sonar. And while your sub may be covered with rubber, sidescan sonar could still find you. I don't know what his fleet has, but I'm just stating facts. And finally, the sound of the SEAL-like team's crafts would blare like a whistle to passive sonar.

The Dr_Twist Government has Called an Emergency Meeting of Allies and Alliances to Discuss the present situation in TBD.

The Dr_Twist Government has Called an Emergency Meeting of Allies and Alliances to Discuss the present situation in TBD.

Everything they posted is secret IC, meathead. You dont know about it IC.

OOC: Meathead. Heh.... What they called football players back in High School....

The Dr_Twist Government has Called an Emergency Meeting of Allies and Alliances to Discuss the present situation in TBD.

Everything they posted is secret IC, meathead. You dont know about it IC.

Anit referring to this, referring to the threat of invasion from Danneland

OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"

I'm a pirate nation, remember :twisted: .

OMG...this is too funny. :D

We post a few things secretly IC and everything goes to shit! LMAO!

OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"

I'm a pirate nation, remember :twisted: .

Don't!

Just sit in your nation and let them do what they want.

OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"

I'm a pirate nation, remember :twisted: .

Does that mean your sailors have a third eye capable of spotting submerged subs?

OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"

I'm a pirate nation, remember :twisted: .


so? still international waters. doesnt matter if its detected by twists navy unless im in your territorial waters.

Argh, ye matey! O_oO <--third eye

OOC: well im in International waters my sub has a right to be there it could be on a missile patrol.
Also active sonar reveals your position the objective of searching for subs is to remain unseen and find your pray not shouting out "HERE I AM WHERE ARE U!"

I'm a pirate nation, remember :twisted: .


so? still international waters. doesnt matter if its detected by twists navy unless im in your territorial waters.

All Dr_Twist Forces in TBD have been recalled to the Dr_Twist Base.

All forces will Remain there until Further Notice.

OOC: When will this dinner start?

BUMP :arrow:

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

Yes, it is godmod. It's not upto the attacker to decide what defences the other side has, thus, this is a major godmod. And yes, detecting subs IS NOT as hard as you all seem to think. Any Navy ship or anti-sub aircraft or instaliation can do it easily. Before you call me an idiot, I spent the last 3 years studying military equipment and technology.

To clarify, I think Horizon is calling Belem a godmoder... Not TBD. I agree.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

Yes, it is godmod. It's not upto the attacker to decide what defences the other side has, thus, this is a major godmod. And yes, detecting subs IS NOT as hard as you all seem to think. Any Navy ship or anti-sub aircraft or instaliation can do it easily. Before you call me an idiot, I spent the last 3 years studying military equipment and technology.

1. theres going to be atleast someplace where there isnt that much defense you realize how difficult it is to defend every inch of beach?

2. It doesnt matter if my sub is detected. its trying not to be detected like all subs but its in international waters it can sit there till its hearts content.

1. For all you know he only has one beach. The rest is unscalable cliffs.

2. International waters is just that. They can easily choose to sink you just because they feel like it. Law can't reach people in international water. Politics can, of course, but not law.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

Yes, it is godmod. It's not upto the attacker to decide what defences the other side has, thus, this is a major godmod. And yes, detecting subs IS NOT as hard as you all seem to think. Any Navy ship or anti-sub aircraft or instaliation can do it easily. Before you call me an idiot, I spent the last 3 years studying military equipment and technology.

1. theres going to be atleast someplace where there isnt that much defense you realize how difficult it is to defend every inch of beach?

2. It doesnt matter if my sub is detected. its trying not to be detected like all subs but its in international waters it can sit there till its hearts content.

Radar/Sonar and automated weapons systems, mines, etc. Also, patrols, and aircraft. It would not be impossible to do.

1. an expansive network like that is expensive. TBD is relatively small. and according to TBD he only has SSM stations on his coast.

unguraded beach.

Godmod. We have all fleets on high alert and you could not possibly get past beach SSM installations.

I hate to say it, but its not a godmod. You're a much smaller country and your navy was destroyed not too long ago. You couldnt possibly keep a submarine from sneaking toward one of your beaches.

Yes, it is godmod. It's not upto the attacker to decide what defences the other side has, thus, this is a major godmod. And yes, detecting subs IS NOT as hard as you all seem to think. Any Navy ship or anti-sub aircraft or instaliation can do it easily. Before you call me an idiot, I spent the last 3 years studying military equipment and technology.

1. theres going to be atleast someplace where there isnt that much defense you realize how difficult it is to defend every inch of beach?

2. It doesnt matter if my sub is detected. its trying not to be detected like all subs but its in international waters it can sit there till its hearts content.

OOC:
Please, no offense, but be quiet if you don't know what your talking about.

I'll address point 2 because point 1 is pointless if you can't get a sub to the beach. ALL TBD HAS TO DO IS FOLLOW YOUR SUB AND TORP IT AS IT ENTERS TBD WATERS.

OOC: the virginia class sub just sat there. I sent small single manned subs to his shoreline. and TBD is claiming claiming its impossible for them to stay on the beach not to get to the beach.



Also TBD im looking at your military page right now and you make no referened to any of your coastal defenses and you only have 300 home guardsmen.

Greenhome, it would be nice if TBD had a sub to do that, though.

Greenhome, it would be nice if TBD had a sub to do that, though.

OOC:
TBD doesn't need a sub. All TBD needs is an venerable destroyer. Hell, TBD could use a Fletcher Class destroyer. First laid down in 1941 or 1942. All it would have to do is ping your sub, not exactly hard. If you torped. the destroyer TBD would know where you are. TBD could then use coastal aircraft to follow it with sonar buoys. As it got closer TBD could use a helocopter with a homing torpedo to take it down. Undectable subs are a myth. (Or a future tech)

Dinner Started:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120358

Not to be a bother(I didnt realize I was entering a war thread, thought it was diploymatic) but, even the most sophisticated modern sonar web, has holes, it is fundamentally impossible to to be scanning EVERYWHERE.
Second most modern nation on inter coastal waters do not scan for surface craft like what a SEAL team would use, because it would sound like any small pleasure craft or fishing boat, so they would be forever tracking targets, an auto defense system would costantly be killing their civilians. A beach born auto defense system would again be constantly killing civilians.
Even at the highest alert single subs are hard to catch, even with side scan sonar, think proximity.
A trained insertion team could easily be deployed 50 miles out, and VERY quitely make way to shore(USA does it all the time, they dont succeed strickly because of superior tech, the tactic is sound).
However, again the insertion would be like this:
sub stop close to hostile waters -deploy team(typically 5 man)- sub move along hostile waters limits till they are detected, then they lead the 'lookouts attention away from the insertion team(a surface vessal is also often used to bait spotters) the sub will only remain stactic twice, once for drop off, and once for insertion.
The team being inserted will have the pick up pre-determined, and either the sub will make it, or it will decide it is too risky, or get sunk and the team-dies.
The escape is always the most difficult part.
The WWII days of sitting and waiting are over, all subs 'actively' hide.

Just remember a sub does not deploy 50 men, it is usually 5.
Thats just my two cents though, since I didnt send my fricking army with my leader I really hope he doesnt get 'aced' by a bunch of terrorists.