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29-01-2004, 05:11
The Empire of Benicius has been given word that a large invasion force is headed towards our nation by the state of Shinoxia. Despite progress being made in "Benician-Shinoxia Peace Summit" (II thread), Shinoxia now wishes to attack our peaceful nation.

We appeal to the international community to help fend off this aggression.

The following message was sent only recently by Shinoxia:

The 3rd and 9th Legions have begun to move to Benicius and the transports carrying them will arrive late Friday afternoon (RL).

1 Legion contains:
Legion
168,000 Antarctic Infantry
(skill=average-veteran)
Calico and G-36 assault rifles

112,000 Arctic Partisans
(skill=average-veteran)
Calico and G-36 assault rifles

45,000 Penguins
(skill=elite)
G-36 assault rifles and SAW light machine guns

45,000 Arctic Paratroopers
(skill=elite)
Calico assault rifles

45,000 Artic Force Troopers
G-36 assault rifles and SAW light machine guns
(skill=elite)

Tanks
x150 Artic Wolf tanks
x100 Arctic Tiger tanks
x150 M1A2 Abrams tanks
x150 T-90 tanks
x50 S122 tanks

Light Assault Vehicles, Artillery pieces, and transport vehicles
x50 AMOS mortar systems
x50 CV90 LAVs
x50 AMV LAVs
x50 Pasi-Xa LAVs
x50 Jaguar 2 Tank Destroyers
x100 Marder I A3IFVs
x50 Leflasys Air Defense Systems
x100 Pzh 2000 IFVs
x100 M2001A1 artillery systems
x100 M270A1 rocket launchers
x25 Paladin heavy artillery systems
x50 M119a1 towed howitzers
x50 Grizzly Armored Breachers (mineclearers)
x2,000 Hummvees
x100 Fuch transport panzers APCs
x50 Bradely mobile transports
x25 HET heavy transports
x20 Iron Cheetah LAVs
x100 M61 Ontos II LAVs
x50 LAV-Ass
x50 Mist Lynx IFVs
x100 Arctic Fox LAVs
x100 Desert Fox LAVs
x100 Nova Cat IFVs
x50 Stormcrow
x100 LAV-Ivs
x100 AAVP7A1 LAVs
x50 Avenger LAVs

x250 MI-8 transport choppers
x500 AH-64A/D attack choppers
x250 Super Cobra choppers
x150 Longbow assault choppers
x150 Chinook transport choppers
x50 Orca assault choppers

The government has since recalled all military divisions back to the mainland to defend Benicius.

The provisional government would appreciate military assistence by those who respect peace and not war. We do not wish to fight, but to defend our land we shall have no choice.

Benicius will not fire in anger unless fired upon first.

Authorised by the provisional government, Benopolis, Benicius.
Dr_Twist
29-01-2004, 05:18
More infomation is needed on the Subject as to why, give a complete answer and don't miss anything.
29-01-2004, 05:19
*Secret*
To : Benicius
From: Pom Palavi, IV - Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Holy Empire Of Hatchibombitar

Will you accept an immediate high-level delegation from the Holy Empire of Hatchibombitar, comprising senior diplomatic and defense staff? With your approval, these representatives are authorized to formalize diplomatic relations, discuss matters of mutual interest regarding current defense issues and establish a permanent legation on Benician soil.

Respectfully,
Pom Palavi, IV
Svalvard
29-01-2004, 05:22
Dr Twist read the War on Benicius i dont have any idea what the other is called. I will support you Benicius i will post what im deploying a little later but im giong to eat something really quick then ill be back.
Dr_Twist
29-01-2004, 05:23
So much reading can some 1 just give me the jist of it, like why he is going to attack how it all started whats happened so far and so on.
imported_Socialist Mitteleuropa
29-01-2004, 05:26
As an ally of Shinoxia, I give you my word a peaceful solution will be attempted before any strike is made.
I resent accusations that these movements have been without merit, but other solutions are being posed as we speak. Please, attempt to negotiate, comrade. Indignance and attempts to spark international unrest will do no more than start a war.
29-01-2004, 05:27
*Secret*
To : Benicius
From: Pom Palavi, IV - Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Holy Empire Of Hatchibombitar

Will you accept an immediate high-level delegation from the Holy Empire of Hatchibombitar, comprising senior diplomatic and defense staff? With your approval, these representatives are authorized to formalize diplomatic relations, discuss matters of mutual interest regarding current defense issues and establish a permanent legation on Benician soil.

Respectfully,
Pom Palavi, IV

*Secret message to Hatchibombitar from Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Empire of Benicius:

The provisional government of Benicius accepts your excellency's proposal.*

*Secret message to Hatchibombitar from Ministry of Defence, Empire of Benicius:

The Empire asks most humbly that Hatchibombitar sends military assistence to Benicius as soon as possible following the establishment of formal relations as stated by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.*

(secret transmissions out)
Iuthia
29-01-2004, 05:28
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2662111

read that.

Basically it started with Benicus deploying a couple of carrier battle groups over a dispute they started over oil drilling rights.

They never fired, only threaten... then alot of whining occured, then more whining, then it was halted...

War was declared by Shinoxia, then it didn't happen as talks occured, it seemed ok but then Shinoxia started the war again, much to my disapointment as they seemed to have reached an agreement... eitherway, if he doesn't start talks again I will make him have alot more trouble harming Benicus on the principal I don't like his way of diplomacy... Benicus gave into demands, payed him and all...

So yeah.... read the above for more info.
Five Civilized Nations
29-01-2004, 05:28
I thought you two were close to a mutual-defense peace treaty?
29-01-2004, 05:30
As an ally of Shinoxia, I give you my word a peaceful solution will be attempted before any strike is made.
I resent accusations that these movements have been without merit, but other solutions are being posed as we speak. Please, attempt to negotiate, comrade. Indignance and attempts to spark international unrest will do no more than start a war.

The Empire of Benicius has been negotiating in a peace summit with Shinoxia for some time now. Having almost reached an agreement, Shinoxia sends an invasion force. This is not the action one would take if they were committed to peace.

Provisional Government President of the Empire of Benicius.
Argyres
29-01-2004, 05:30
OOC: Benicius, just ignore this. For the love of God don't let another war start with these people :o :shock:
Dr_Twist
29-01-2004, 05:30
mmmmm, intresting i have read it, all i can see is threats, but no firing or anything.

To what i see the 1st nation to open fire will be seen as an agressor
Wolfish
29-01-2004, 05:31
So much reading can some 1 just give me the jist of it, like why he is going to attack how it all started whats happened so far and so on.

Here's my limited take on the matter - and note that I'm supporting Benicius.

B got into some type of scrap with a bunch of nations from Antarctica.

They are known bullies (like the early days of the RGGA, and Nankin ;) )

I have foiled such attempts in the past.

I would like your help to resolve this one without bloodshed.

Its been a while since we've worked together (Since the SC v Nankin thing) but this one is worth it.

Cheers,
W.

TG me if you have questions.
29-01-2004, 05:32
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2662111

read that.

Basically it started with Benicus deploying a couple of carrier battle groups over a dispute they started over oil drilling rights.

They never fired, only threaten... then alot of whining occured, then more whining, then it was halted...

War was declared by Shinoxia, then it didn't happen as talks occured, it seemed ok but then Shinoxia started the war again, much to my disapointment as they seemed to have reached an agreement... eitherway, if he doesn't start talks again I will make him have alot more trouble harming Benicus on the principal I don't like his way of diplomacy... Benicus gave into demands, payed him and all...

So yeah.... read the above for more info.

OOC:
I offered to pay off the "debt" for Benicius at 40 cents on the dollar, but was turned down by Shinoxia. The other thread that may be instructive is the "War on Rebeland" thread, in which Shinoxia et al threatened Rebeland for 15 pages or more before it disintegrated into a godmod fest.
29-01-2004, 05:33
The People's Republic of the Proletariat Masses would be pleased to provide a token force of one mechanized regiment of soldiers of the PRPM Army in an effort to forge new diplomatic relations with what it hopes is the stronger nation. This regiment is equipped with AK-47s, SVDs, PKMs, and similar small arms, and the mechanized portion consitsts primarily of T-55 MBTs and BMP-1 CFVs.
Dr_Twist
29-01-2004, 05:34
So much reading can some 1 just give me the jist of it, like why he is going to attack how it all started whats happened so far and so on.

Here's my limited take on the matter - and note that I'm supporting Benicius.

B got into some type of scrap with a bunch of nations from Antarctica.

They are known bullies (like the early days of the RGGA, and Nankin ;) )

I have foiled such attempts in the past.

I would like your help to resolve this one without bloodshed.

Its been a while since we've worked together (Since the SC v Nankin thing) but this one is worth it.

Cheers,
W.

TG me if you have questions.

No sounds good really i have no issues at all....
Svalvard
29-01-2004, 05:35
They were but i dont know what happened. ive been off on another Job for d Rl days so i dont have any idea whats been happening.

*Encoded Transmission to Benicius*

We will be deploying our rapid intervention force right now others will arrive as the days pass.

this force consists of

250,000 infantry
5,000 Rangers
250 tanks
500 Chinooks
100 Ah-64 Apaches
2 Submarines(1 with ballistic Capabilities)
25 JSF Combat Fighters

These are on their way as we speak
May god speed be with you benicius over & out

*transmission ends*
Iuthia
29-01-2004, 05:35
OOC: Benicius, just ignore this. For the love of God don't let another war start with these people :o :shock:

OOC: It's simple, if he goes to war, I will decimate any and all attack forces... assuming he makes me actually mobilise... I hate mobilising and I will make a point of removing every single enemy vessal from Benicus's water...

While it would seem I have taken Benicus's side, the original dispute over oil still makes us careful about this... however, I've lay down the law on this one and I'm sure that Benicus will no step out of line, because I will make sure he doesn't.

This is going to work because people fear nations with a military many times larger then their own...
Dr_Twist
29-01-2004, 05:37
So much stuff is being Moblized everywhere this could be intresting....
Argyres
29-01-2004, 05:38
OOC: Well I would support him if I was invited, I just see this going nowhere, just as ALL the Antarctic wars do.
Wolfish
29-01-2004, 05:38
OOC: Benicius, just ignore this. For the love of God don't let another war start with these people :o :shock:

OOC: It's simple, if he goes to war, I will decimate any and all attack forces... assuming he makes me actually mobilise... I hate mobilising and I will make a point of removing every single enemy vessal from Benicus's water...

While it would seem I have taken Benicus's side, the original dispute over oil still makes us careful about this... however, I've lay down the law on this one and I'm sure that Benicus will no step out of line, because I will make sure he doesn't.

This is going to work because people fear nations with a military many times larger then their own...

Official Transmission to Iuthia Military Command
From: Wolfish Defense Command.

Please note that we are prepared to mobilize in this matter. However our position is biased.

May we suggest, you provide our forces the "go ahead" when you are satisfied that conflict is necessary.

This will save you from mobilizing your troops, and will save us a difficult judgement call.

We await your response.

WDC.
Iuthia
29-01-2004, 05:39
The People's Republic of the Proletariat Masses would be pleased to provide a token force of one mechanized regiment of soldiers of the PRPM Army in an effort to forge new diplomatic relations with what it hopes is the stronger nation. This regiment is equipped with AK-47s, SVDs, PKMs, and similar small arms, and the mechanized portion consitsts primarily of T-55 MBTs and BMP-1 CFVs.

No thankyou... I'm sure we have enough good samitians to make this work and I wouldn't want anyone to lose any more forces then they have to.

However, should you want to start diplomatic relations you could just ask, you don't need donations of military forces to look good, just a calm and friendly manner.
Iuthia
29-01-2004, 05:44
Night guys, I'm tired. I would ask you that we don't start any military action (if any) until tomorrow... though I'm not in control of your nation and you can do as you like.

Should you want the go ahead to mobilise some forces, just make sure that it's nothing huge for now, just enough to make it clear that we don't want any fuss. Don't engage unless either you or Benicus are fired upon... in which case I'm sure you will act as you see fit.

Night.
29-01-2004, 05:49
The People's Republic of the Proletariat Masses would be pleased to provide a token force of one mechanized regiment of soldiers of the PRPM Army in an effort to forge new diplomatic relations with what it hopes is the stronger nation. This regiment is equipped with AK-47s, SVDs, PKMs, and similar small arms, and the mechanized portion consitsts primarily of T-55 MBTs and BMP-1 CFVs.

No thankyou... I'm sure we have enough good samitians to make this work and I wouldn't want anyone to lose any more forces then they have to.

However, should you want to start diplomatic relations you could just ask, you don't need donations of military forces to look good, just a calm and friendly manner.

We thank you for your promises of generous military aid to this common cause ant also for the helpful advice. However, actions speak louder than words, and though everyone certainly hopes that this problem can come to a peaceful conclusion, we would nevertheless be pleased to provide military aid should you have need of it.
29-01-2004, 05:53
IC:
To: All Parties
From: Pom Palavi, IV - Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Holy Empire Of Hatchibombitar

The Holy Empire of Hatchibombitar announces today the establishment of formal diplomatic relations with the Benicians. We are pleased to announce that arrangements for a close air support and air-to-sea training exercise are also underway; said exercise is intended to duplicate the defense of Benicius from a seaborne invasion force. While no information about force deployments has been issued as yet, Defense Minister Obadiah Sistrunk has publicly noted his desire to provide advanced training for our F-22 Raptor wings.

Respectfully,
Pom Palavi, IV - Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Holy Empire Of Hatchibombitar

OOC: Hatchibombitar remains deeply committed to peace. No shots shall be fired by Hatchibombitarian forces, save in self defense, defense of Benicia, or defense of our ally Wolfish. We implore Shinoxia to return to the bargaining table.