NationStates Jolt Archive


Rats for sale?

Terrible Malice
27-01-2004, 16:00
Our fellow nations!

Our new and promising nation known as The Empire of Terrible Malice have come in to sort of a problem: Our national animal is the rat. We use it for everything from milk and meat for our poor citizens, to hunt-trophies.

However, as our land is heavy industrialized and therefore reeks with poisonous chemicals, our entire supplies of rats have died. As a last resort we reach out to the international community. Whatever country who are willing to sell us an estimate of 10.000 healthy rats which we can restore our supply with; will receive a reward of 250 slaves. The slaves are fine quality first-time offenders between the ages of 15 and 25.

Please respond before we have to make use of cockroaches.


- Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs
The Burnsian Desert
27-01-2004, 16:02
We have 2,000 healthy almost-used-in-the-lab-but-not lab rats.
27-01-2004, 16:05
the Dictatorship of Rickinstine will set up a breeding program, and make your request.
after that, we will send over experts, to teach you how to bread your own rats.
The Burnsian Desert
27-01-2004, 16:06
(OOC: Dang he's better than me at this. :) :))
27-01-2004, 16:07
(OOC: Dang he's better than me at this. :) :))
i love RP games :-)
Terrible Malice
27-01-2004, 16:09
The Empire of Terrible Malice would like to thank The Burnsian Desert with 50 slaves, and the remaining 200 will go to RICKINSTINE if they prowide the rest of the rats. An additional 50 slaves will be given to RICKINSTINE if they send over their experts and manages to set up successful breeding programs in our country.

- Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs
27-01-2004, 16:12
The Empire of Terrible Malice would like to thank The Burnsian Desert with 50 slaves, and the remaining 200 will go to RICKINSTINE if they prowide the rest of the rats. An additional 50 slaves will be given to RICKINSTINE if they send over their experts.

- Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs
we have captured 100 large healthy female rats, and 10 large healthy male rats....it should take 3 months to fill your request..i'll send over 2 experts for the time being to show you how to bread good rats.
The Burnsian Desert
27-01-2004, 16:13
The Empire of Terrible Malice would like to thank The Burnsian Desert with 50 slaves, and the remaining 200 will go to RICKINSTINE if they prowide the rest of the rats. An additional 50 slaves will be given to RICKINSTINE if they send over their experts and manages to set up successful breeding programs in our country.

- Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs

OOC: Thanks. (experiment time!)
27-01-2004, 16:15
i clone people to experement on, the slaves will go to my uranium mines..
Terrible Malice
27-01-2004, 16:17
Thanks for the quick results, RICKINSTINE. We will deliver you one slave for each 40 rat we recive until we have the requested amount of rats.

-Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs
The Burnsian Desert
27-01-2004, 16:18
Yeah, I have some of those too. But I got the locals to do that for me :).
27-01-2004, 16:30
my country has now bread 2,000 rats...the order will be compleated in 3 weeks....
i hope our experts we sent are helpfull.
Terrible Malice
27-01-2004, 17:46
Terrible Malice
28-01-2004, 12:14
The experts have now set up a successful breeding system for the rats, and as promised we are now sending you the 50 slaves.

-Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment
28-01-2004, 12:50
We are shipping you 125,344 Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs by Airfreight, no landing clearance is required, we'll just drop them by parachute. We do this as a gift, and require neither payment, nor gratitude.

[I think I've solved the Guinea pig infestation in the House of Lords minister]

P Peabody - Junior minister for Pest control
Terrible Malice
28-01-2004, 12:56
We do not accept this gift - as a mather of fact, we take it as an insult to both The Tribunal as well as out obressed citizens. I hope you change your plans before we are infested with Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs.

-Vladim Viloshus
Minister of Arms & Foreign affairs
28-01-2004, 13:04
We demand Empire of Terrible Malice to immediately cease using slavery. If you do not comply with our demands, we may take military action.

Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Sir Edwin Lindman.
28-01-2004, 13:04
OOC:Double post, sorry. Server is messy.
Kanabia
28-01-2004, 13:05
Kanabia
28-01-2004, 13:27
We agree with Fennougric People. Slavery is a barbarism and CANNOT be tolerated. Stand down.
28-01-2004, 13:31
We agree with Fennougric People. Slavery is a barbarism and CANNOT be tolerated. Stand down.

I have contacted you privately. Please read ASAP and respond.
Terrible Malice
28-01-2004, 13:35
We do not use slaves, we sell them to other nations.

Vladim Viloshus
28-01-2004, 13:39
We do not use slaves, we sell them to other nations.

Vladim Viloshus

So you participate in use of slavery!Every human is born free, slavery is barbaric and incivilized practice.
Feliz
28-01-2004, 13:46
Feliz
28-01-2004, 13:47
as you are an UN Member you have to stop any action relative to slavery.
On the Tue Jan 21 2003 the UN voted for this resolution:
"The scourge of slavery yet remains in these progressive times. People are bought and sold like cattle, unable to determine their destiny. Their families are split apart; they are allowed no possessions of their own. They are beaten, chained, and tortured. Therefore, I propose that the following human rights be given to every peoples of this great world: - The right to leave her or his job, given two weeks' notice. - The right to own possessions. - The right to travel freely throughout their country. - The right to bodily safety from one's employer. - The outlawing of the selling or purchasing of people."
If your nation keep going on with human trade, we'll have to ask for your ejection from the UNited Nations.

Dr. Jekyll, member of the community of Feliz.
Kanabia
28-01-2004, 13:50
Kanabia places economic sanctions on Terrible Malice. Our condolences to its citizens for any hardships that may result from this.

For the sanctions to be removed we require either:

1. The immediate emancipation of all slaves within Terrible Malice, or

2. The immediate transfer as free citizens of these people to Kanabia, where they will receive full benefits as Kanabian citizens, including free healthcare and education.

If slavery is not abolished in the near future, we may regrettably resort to military action.

In addition, we will provide economic assistance to deal with your rat shortage if you cooperate.
28-01-2004, 14:00
Empire of Fennougric People joins the embargo against Empire of Terrible Malice.
Kanabia
28-01-2004, 14:11
We also issue a stern warning to Rickinstine and The Burnsian Desert. Release any slaves that you have in your custody to us, or the embargo will be extended to you.

We are not seeking to make enemies, however if you choose to participate in this barbaric trade, we have no choice but to call you such.
28-01-2004, 14:38
Sorry Mr Vladthingy, but you see atmospheric static makes it just about impossible to communicate with our pilots just now. We will, of course, keep trying to speak to them, however, Mrs. Pigsbladder, just down the road, told me her corns are playing up, and that's usually a sign for worse weather, so I don't hold out much hope.

The junior minister responsible has been reprimanded and moved to the department of Social Welfare as minister in charge.

We do hope we haven't upset you, but look on the bright side:

With all these do-gooders and lefty bleeding hearts having a go at you over this silly slavery thing, leave the old Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs to get on with it (they breed like Guinea pigs y'know) and no-onje will dare invade you (They're also quite good for getting rid of troublesome population statistics)
Xeraph
28-01-2004, 15:14
<OOC> " Your Majesty, it seems TBD has given us a means to infiltrate their country. They seem to have an over-abundance of rats. Could we not use our Ebola1 experimental rodent population as a field experiment in TBD?"
" Good idea, Dr. Frankenstein, but some bleeding-heart noob will pick a self-righteous fight with us over it, and I'm just not in the mood to destroy yet another nation. Let's just send our Tribbles and aggravate them that way."

And so, yet another foray into the continuing animosity between Xeraph and TBD.
Terrible Malice
28-01-2004, 15:33
Fellow Nations!

Slavery in our empire is not a matter of obtaining cheap work-force. Slavery is a substitute for prisons. In stead of piling up criminals in detention, we choose to put them to work. They are referred to as slaves because they do not receive any money, as this is a punishment.

Further more, due to our highly effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP), the number of slaves in our possession never exceeds 0.5% of the total population. Our slavery is therefore an economicly defendable punishment for convicted felons, and we see no reason to change that.

When we sell our slaves or exchange them for services, the responsibility for their well-being is no longer of our concern, as they are no longer citizens of our state. Know that the DCCP does everything within their power to keep criminality, and as a consequence, slavery at a very low percent of the total population.

I hope this has clarified the situation and proved that there is no need for any serious actions to be set in motion.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment and Leader of the DCCP
28-01-2004, 17:25
Dear Mr Vladythingy,

We have, at last managed to get in touch with our pilots, unfortunately this was not until after they had completed their drop. They have asked us to mention to you that some of your chaps seemed to be testing anti-aircraft weapons just as they flew over... not really the safest thing to do, somebody could have been quite frightened by all those bangs and rockets.

We do hope you enjoy your new Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs, they are more fun than a "barrel of monkeys" I think you chaps say. Don't worry too much about pet-care they will usually not hunt humans until they've destroyed all other life.

Thankyou so Much

Yours sincerely

P.J. Longtom MBE
Minister for International Goodwill
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Kanabia
29-01-2004, 04:47
Fellow Nations!

Slavery in our empire is not a matter of obtaining cheap work-force. Slavery is a substitute for prisons. In stead of piling up criminals in detention, we choose to put them to work. They are referred to as slaves because they do not receive any money, as this is a punishment.

Further more, due to our highly effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP), the number of slaves in our possession never exceeds 0.5% of the total population. Our slavery is therefore an economicly defendable punishment for convicted felons, and we see no reason to change that.

When we sell our slaves or exchange them for services, the responsibility for their well-being is no longer of our concern, as they are no longer citizens of our state. Know that the DCCP does everything within their power to keep criminality, and as a consequence, slavery at a very low percent of the total population.

I hope this has clarified the situation and proved that there is no need for any serious actions to be set in motion.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment and Leader of the DCCP

Oh yes, Its all well and good now because these people are shall we say, counter-productive, and you can put them to much better use by enslaving them for your own profit. Ever heard of the gulags?

For what crimes are these people held? Are they political prisoners? Other offenders? Your government fails to realise that an extensive social welfare program basically eliminates the problems of violent crime and thievery, and more oppression only creates more problems.

Furthermore, the sale of your prisoners is also a severe affront to human rights...for a "crime" against your country you would sell them to another for medical and other experimentation? As stated previously, your policy is contrary to that of the UN. We are going to ask for your removal, unless you change this policy. If you still insist on being stubborn, we have a marine combat brigade with air support and several elite special forces units standing by to change your mind.

One more thing, you stated previously "We don't use slaves, we sell them to other nations" This was obviously a lie. It makes us wonder what exactly you are trying to hide.
Kanabia
29-01-2004, 04:50
Fellow Nations!

Slavery in our empire is not a matter of obtaining cheap work-force. Slavery is a substitute for prisons. In stead of piling up criminals in detention, we choose to put them to work. They are referred to as slaves because they do not receive any money, as this is a punishment.

Further more, due to our highly effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP), the number of slaves in our possession never exceeds 0.5% of the total population. Our slavery is therefore an economicly defendable punishment for convicted felons, and we see no reason to change that.

When we sell our slaves or exchange them for services, the responsibility for their well-being is no longer of our concern, as they are no longer citizens of our state. Know that the DCCP does everything within their power to keep criminality, and as a consequence, slavery at a very low percent of the total population.

I hope this has clarified the situation and proved that there is no need for any serious actions to be set in motion.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment and Leader of the DCCP

Oh yes, Its all well and good now because these people are shall we say, counter-productive, and you can put them to much better use by enslaving them for your own profit. Ever heard of the gulags?

For what crimes are these people held? Are they political prisoners? Other offenders? Your government fails to realise that an extensive social welfare program basically eliminates the problems of violent crime and thievery, and more oppression only creates more problems.

Furthermore, the sale of your prisoners is also a severe affront to human rights...for a "crime" against your country you would sell them to another for medical and other experimentation? As stated previously, your policy is contrary to that of the UN. We are going to ask for your removal, unless you change this policy. If you still insist on being stubborn, we have a marine combat brigade with air support and several elite special forces units standing by to change your mind.

One more thing, you stated previously "We don't use slaves, we sell them to other nations" This was obviously a lie. It makes us wonder what exactly you are trying to hide.
Kanabia
29-01-2004, 04:50
Fellow Nations!

Slavery in our empire is not a matter of obtaining cheap work-force. Slavery is a substitute for prisons. In stead of piling up criminals in detention, we choose to put them to work. They are referred to as slaves because they do not receive any money, as this is a punishment.

Further more, due to our highly effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP), the number of slaves in our possession never exceeds 0.5% of the total population. Our slavery is therefore an economicly defendable punishment for convicted felons, and we see no reason to change that.

When we sell our slaves or exchange them for services, the responsibility for their well-being is no longer of our concern, as they are no longer citizens of our state. Know that the DCCP does everything within their power to keep criminality, and as a consequence, slavery at a very low percent of the total population.

I hope this has clarified the situation and proved that there is no need for any serious actions to be set in motion.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment and Leader of the DCCP

Oh yes, Its all well and good now because these people are shall we say, counter-productive, and you can put them to much better use by enslaving them for your own profit. Ever heard of the gulags?

For what crimes are these people held? Are they political prisoners? Other offenders? Your government fails to realise that an extensive social welfare program basically eliminates the problems of violent crime and thievery, and more oppression only creates more problems.

Furthermore, the sale of your prisoners is also a severe affront to human rights...for a "crime" against your country you would sell them to another for medical and other experimentation? As stated previously, your policy is contrary to that of the UN. We are going to ask for your removal, unless you change this policy. If you still insist on being stubborn, we have a marine combat brigade with air support and several elite special forces units standing by to change your mind.

One more thing, you stated previously "We don't use slaves, we sell them to other nations" This was obviously a lie. It makes us wonder what exactly you are trying to hide.
Kanabia
29-01-2004, 04:52
Kanabia
29-01-2004, 05:28
OOC: Sorry for triple post...
Ikkitousen
29-01-2004, 05:38
Every human is born free, slavery is barbaric and incivilized practice.

Every human is born free? Since when? What if a human is born into serfdom or slavery? If from the moment that child is born it is branded a slave then it was never born free.
29-01-2004, 08:15
Every human is born free, slavery is barbaric and incivilized practice.

Every human is born free? Since when? What if a human is born into serfdom or slavery? If from the moment that child is born it is branded a slave then it was never born free.

We believe that person's freedom may only be taken away if he is a danger to others or has done crimes. We do not believe in slavery.
Terrible Malice
29-01-2004, 08:36
The prisoners who become slaves in our nation have all been tested in a fair trial for their crimes. Is it more humane to imprison criminals than to put them to work? Also we would like to underline that the total amount of slaves never exceeds 0.5% of the total population due to our effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP).

However, we will agree to stop all slave trade and keep our ways of punishment to criminals for ourselves. We will therefore not engage in slavetrade any longer. As a fact we do not posess any slaves at this time since they were all traded away for rats.

If it comes to that, we will leave the UN, but we ask of you that the economical sanctions are removed and that all threats about war are withdrawn.

The crimes that qualify to the punishment of slavery are mainly serious crimes like first degree murder and simular brutalities towards people. Know that no political opponents have ever been punished by slavery, as they recive more suitable punishments.

-Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment & Leader of the DCCP
29-01-2004, 08:58
The prisoners who become slaves in our nation have all been tested in a fair trial for their crimes. Is it more humane to imprison criminals than to put them to work? Also we would like to underline that the total amount of slaves never exceeds 0.5% of the total population due to our effective Department of Citizen Control & Protection (The DCCP).



If it comes to that, we will leave the UN, but we ask of you that the economical sanctions are removed and that all threats about war are withdrawn.


-Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment & Leader of the DCCP

We would like to send inspection committee to your country to make sure that slave trade will stop. If you agree, we will withdraw our war threats.
Terrible Malice
29-01-2004, 19:00
We would like to send inspection committee to your country to make sure that slave trade will stop. If you agree, we will withdraw our war threats.

You may send an inspection committee, as we have nothing to hide. The trading of slaves has already stopped, but we do not abolish forced work as a way of punishing criminals found guilty of serious crimes.

The inspection committee will receive access and to both our facilities for holding slaves as well as full freedom to inspect other parts of our efficient crime fighting system.

Know that it at this time are not any slaves in our possession, and we are at the time constructing a new system to fight crime that will make our Department of Citizen Control & Protection even more effective than before.

To avoid similar situations in the future, we will change the name of the punishment from "slaves" to "penal worker".

I hope this issue can end here and that we can go on with the simple and peaceful life in our nation without any more conflicts over this matter.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment & Leader of the DCCP
Kanabia
30-01-2004, 08:04
The sanctions against Terrible Malice have been lifted, and our military in the area is standing down.

While we admit that we have no say in the internal affairs of your nation, we suggest that in the future, the focus of your prisons moves away from punishment and more towards reconciliation. Kanabia follows this policy and consequently enjoys a basically non existent crime rate.
30-01-2004, 11:15
We would like to send inspection committee to your country to make sure that slave trade will stop. If you agree, we will withdraw our war threats.

You may send an inspection committee, as we have nothing to hide. The trading of slaves has already stopped, but we do not abolish forced work as a way of punishing criminals found guilty of serious crimes.

The inspection committee will receive access and to both our facilities for holding slaves as well as full freedom to inspect other parts of our efficient crime fighting system.

Know that it at this time are not any slaves in our possession, and we are at the time constructing a new system to fight crime that will make our Department of Citizen Control & Protection even more effective than before.

To avoid similar situations in the future, we will change the name of the punishment from "slaves" to "penal worker".

I hope this issue can end here and that we can go on with the simple and peaceful life in our nation without any more conflicts over this matter.

- Oratha Cresto
Minister of People Enlightenment & Leader of the DCCP

War threats and embargo have been cancelled, but because we are in state of war all non-essential traffic has been cancelled, so we'll send a committee later.