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MK.2 Destructor, A REVOLUTIONARY AAM by KMI

25-01-2004, 11:45
The MK.2 Destructor Long Range Air-To-Air missile makes a new generation is Air-To-Air missiles, with radar in fighter aircraft expanding range at a super fast rate, missile technology has lagged behind in terms of range, this is NOT the case with mk.2 Destructor.

Using a revolutionary 2 Stage system the destructor is able to engage aircraft right and the very edge or aircrafts radar coverage [Missile range 152km]. The first stage(booster) stage takes the missile the majority of it's way at a superfast MACH 4.62 with a resonable 20g max load. For the last 10km the booster is jettisoned and the much smaller attacker rocket fires it's engines and enagages the enemy with a massive Mach 4.9 and 88G max load.

What makes this missile even better is the fact that it can be mounted in just about every aircraft known the man without problems and using it's active radar requires no input from the launcher, leaving the pilot under less stress.

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Der Angst
25-01-2004, 11:58
[Missile range 152km]. The first stage(booster) stage takes the missile the majority of it's way at a superfast MACH 4.62 with a resonable 20g max load.

*bold by me

kg, perhaps? 20g ain`t that threatening...
25-01-2004, 12:35
[Missile range 152km]. The first stage(booster) stage takes the missile the majority of it's way at a superfast MACH 4.62 with a resonable 20g max load.

*bold by me

kg, perhaps? 20g ain`t that threatening...

Thats G-Force, As in it can pull a sustained(Within reason) 20G turn, dive etc and still fly.


Sorry but the stats wern't posted.

TYPE: 2 Stage Long Range Air-to-Air Missile
Range: 152km
Length: 3.82M/1.87m
Diameter: 0.7m/ 0.15m
Span: 1.33m/ 0.43m
Launch Weight: 555kg
Warhead: 17.5KG HE
Propulsion: 2 Solid-Propellant Rockets (1 each stage)
Engagement Arc: 360 degrees
Speed: Mach 4.62/ Mach 4.9
G-Limit: 20g / 89g
Guidance: Active radar


P.S I was ment to post not my "puppet".
26-01-2004, 11:50
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Zvarinograd
26-01-2004, 12:12
OOC:
That's a pretty manueverable turn. 9g is lethal to humans. It's going to be hard to dodge that without the pilot blacking out.
26-01-2004, 12:20
OOC:
That's a pretty manueverable turn. 9g is lethal to humans. It's going to be hard to dodge that without the pilot blacking out.

OOC: 9g is not lethal, at 9g most peope will be temporarily knocked out but some people have survived upto over 100G forces but that was for a tiny amount of time and he suffered serious injury.

IC: That is the advantage of the 2 Stage design, After dumping it's big, heavy booster the smaller missile is able to pull very tight turns ensuring no amount of manuering by even the latest Super-Manuverable aircraft will not loose this missile.
Zvarinograd
26-01-2004, 12:53
The United Communist States of Zvarinograd wouldlike to pit this missle against our AZ-SMF-02 "Deus Ex Machina" air superiority fighter. Our fighter utilizes a unique technology based on gyroscopes that allows the pilot to withstand the unimaginable G forces the aircraft creates.

Take the principle of the gyroscope; a wheel or disk mounted to spin rapidly about an axis and also free to rotate about one or both of two axes perpendicular to each other and to the axis of spin so that a rotation of one of the two mutually perpendicular axes results from application of torque to the other when the wheel is spinning and so that the entire apparatus offers considerable opposition depending on the angular momentum to any torque that would change the direction of the axis of spin.

If you mount two gyroscopes with their axles at right angles to one another on a platform, and place the platform inside a set of gimbals, the platform will remain completely rigid as the gimbals rotate in any way they please. This is this basis of inertial navigation systems (INS).

At least, theoretically this would work applied on the aircraft.

The cockpit may disorient the pilot, but a pilot can be properly trained to cope with that difficulty.

That, including afterburning thrust vectoring and augmentation of the engine, allows the fighter to be one of the most manueverable in the world. It puts even the Su-37 to shame. Now then, will you accept our proposal?

Dr. Sergei Valkov
United Communist States of Zvarinograd

OOC:
You tell me if there's anything wrong with the cockpit's concept. I've had enough trying to work it out a long time ago. This was in October.
26-01-2004, 13:59
No matter how much g-forces the equipment may be able to a Human will always have a max sustained g-force loading of 9g's. Any high than that and you are putting the pilot is serious risk of injury. The aircrafts aircraft would start to suffer after as little as 10g's.

For an unmaned plane the idea is great, but for a maned aircraft the extra g-force cannot be put to good use.

The question is: Do you want to build aircraft in the range of 70million+(Unit Cost) for use as an unmaned fighter? Do you want to use the rare metals needed to cope with the high g loading? Do you want to do this for an unmaned aircraft that will have no where near the capability of a manned fighter?

For missiles normal metals can be used and they will survive extrem g levels, this is becuase of there small size and aerodynamics. When a plane pulls a high angle of attack move(Required for high g-loading), the drag is greatly increased and starts to stress the wings, wing joints, tail surfaces etc, Because a missile is much smaller the drag increase is just a tiny fraction of that of a plane and becuase smaller peices of metal are stronger than larger peices, a missile can use regular metals for use in extreme g-force environment while a plane cannot(Something the S-37(Su-47 had to overcome with it's forward swept wings, The wing joints make extensive use of composites to stop them from being torn off)
Zvarinograd
27-01-2004, 09:01
OOC:
...

I didn't mean that the INS will increase the manueverability G forces a human can take. I meant that the INS will negate those Gs by keeping the cockpit stationary as the aircraft rotates around it. Cameras installed on the nose and sides gives the pilot a normal HUD.
Kilean
27-01-2004, 09:08
Look, unless gyroscopes can now nullify gravity, the only effect that system will have is to make your pilot pass out level to the ground at 9G's.

G-force does not care which way you face.
27-01-2004, 09:09
Uh, how do you detect stealth planes again?
Western Asia
27-01-2004, 09:33
Uh, how do you detect stealth planes again?

Most have reduced, but not non-existent heat signals...an electrooptics package might also be able to spot it in non-standard light ranges (UV, etc).
Zvarinograd
27-01-2004, 09:38
Look, unless gyroscopes can now nullify gravity, the only effect that system will have is to make your pilot pass out level to the ground at 9G's.

G-force does not care which way you face.

OOC:
Well, that's the answer I was looking for. If the system will absorb the Gs and not the platform or not at all.
Etronia
27-01-2004, 10:19
OOC:
Well, that's the answer I was looking for. If the system will absorb the Gs and not the platform or not at all.

You never asked the question. You just made statements about this system. Statements that weren't questions, I really should add.
Zvarinograd
27-01-2004, 10:41
OOC:
"You tell me if anythings wrong with the cockpit's concept"

Actually, I was open for suggestions and comments about the system right there at the end of that statement. :P
Etronia
27-01-2004, 10:56
Actually, I was open for suggestions and comments about the system right there at the end of that statement. :P

I failed reading comprehension. :(
Dammit. This should teach me not to post on the forums at 2am
27-01-2004, 11:16
Uh, how do you detect stealth planes again?

Most have reduced, but not non-existent heat signals...an electrooptics package might also be able to spot it in non-standard light ranges (UV, etc).


They DO show up on radar, Stealth have REDUCED radar signatures with mean that most low power radar will have a never hard time detecting them if the pilot flights right, but ANY high power, high frequency radar will have NO trouble picking them up and tracking them.

The thing with stealth is that most radar is not high power or high frequceny so the plane can penerate further into enemy territory without being spotted giving him/her a better chance at hitting there target.
Western Asia
28-01-2004, 08:51
A missile-mounted or even a plane-mounted radar might not be sufficient to effecvtively lock onto a stealth plane, which is why the other methods were mentioned in my post...harder to conceal and always present at sufficient levels to allow for lock-on and pursuit.