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Colodia
07-02-2004, 09:23
OOC:Just to tell you, you couldnt hit the capitol of chellis if you wanted to... SAM's litter the place, our capital is more of a military base than a city... Also, if you have AK-47's on a plane, you will likely blow a hole through the side and decompress the plane... It would be much more sensible for terrorists to use a .45 calibre gun... More likely to get stuck halfway through the hull and not blow the plane up in midair...

IC: Chellian Military forces begin slowly moving up the east side of colodi presumably waiting for reinforcements before a large attack.

OOC: Well...we hardly used them ya? just to show everyone we meant business
Shildonia
07-02-2004, 18:28
OOC: Yes well...things started to llok desperate and I needed an interesting counter moves. A 100 fighter plane invasion sounded nice. It's not like planes travelling around Mach 1 take an hour to get to the battlefield.

Also, it'd be kinda stupid for trained "terrorists" to get caught in a metal detector. All their ammo and weapons were in the luggage and was checked by your security.

Who says that lady wasn't a femine version of Arnold Sw.? HMMMM?

Concerning the possibility of traitors, who says the pilots themselves weren't traitors? Who says your own security forces aren't traitors? Who says your Sky Marshalls aren't traitors?

The reason I posted a hijacking and suicide move in one post was because I needed to gain SOME kind of advantage over you. I mean...you keep overwhelming me with these "SMS and EMI and CA" missles that you only let one ship burn. ONE SHIP! ONNNNEEEEE SHIIIIIPPPPP! And why are they falling a "mere 200 m. from the ship" THE MISSLES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVE BETTER ACCURACY THAN THAT! right?

mmhmm...they must be accurate....

There's a difference between "interesting countermoves" and cheating. A BIG difference. If your aircraft wereflying at Mach 1, they would have ran out of fuel before they even reached the carrier group, because they would have been using their afterburners all the way.
Your weapons didn't get through security. You didn't RP them being smuggled onboard the plane. You didn't mention them at all until they start getting used, which is practically godmoding.
You're clutching at straws. By your own words the flight attendant was "poor old lady". Hardly Miss Universe material, is she? As for traitors, again you haven't RPd infiltrating agents, you're just assuming you've managed to get them.
Posting in one move is gaining an advantage. By cheating. Face it, you're losing, but that's no reason to start godmoding your way to victory. I'm bigger than you. That is why you are losing. If you didn't want to get gang raped by bigger nations, then you shouldn't have started harbouring terrorists, or at the very least given into the bigger nations demands.
As for your missiles missing, you're using missiles with no way to correct their flight path in mid-flight. The Tomahawk is designed to hit land targets, like bunkers. Ships tend to be moving around, which is why they are missing. There also lots of ships in my taskforce capable of shooting down missiles, especially a slow moving one like the Tomahawk which goes at a mere 550mph. The only ship that has been sunk (which hasn't actually been sunk because you started the attack again) was sunk by torpedos, which are actually designed to sink shipping.
Now if you didn't want to get hit like this, you shouldn't have started harbouring terrorists, and if you don't know what the missiles I am using are, then look them up. Google is wealth of information on any subject, especially weapons systems. And while you're there, maybe you can find a real anti-ship missile to use.
Now either stop cheating or I shall ignore you.
Chellis
07-02-2004, 21:54
The back door swiveled open. Men started rushing out. Red lights flashed in the storage, as ripcords could be seen being handled and men praying they would make it down to the ground without their parachutes ripping(a common myth, that cheap chellian parachutes would rip mid-air).

300 Heaven Cargo Planes, and 600 J-5 Gliders flew through the midnight air. The night had been chosen do to the minimal moonlight at the time. Massive Bombing runs had been made on the east to try and trick Colodian forces to believe an attack was just about to happen. But it didnt.

The paratroopers began to land behind enemy lines in the west part of colodia. RAA planes escorted the paratroopers, to try and help against any enemy attack. The planes flew at 45,000 feet, to try and make visibility lowest possible.

The gliders let off first, while the RAA's began heading down to strike at any believes SAM sites. The Heaven Cargo Planes let out men by the hundreds. Many chellian troops fell to their death however, as many of the paratroopers were from non airbourne divisions, and had only about a week of specialized Paratrooper Training.

Planned for two hours after the paratroopers were to land, 3 Armored divisions(the 4th Light, the 2nd Panzer. and the 13th Support) were to punch forward, while 5 mechanized infantry divisions(11th, 12th, 19th, 21st, and 37th) were to follow them closeby.

An hour after the ground forces were moving, A massive amount of bombers and fighters began heading towards western cities. Their goal was to level as much as possible, and did so with 5,000lb bombs in massive quantities.

A final message was sent to Colodian command. It simply said "Comply or die".
Colodia
08-02-2004, 07:19
URGENT: SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM PRESIDENT LEON QUEV AND STAFF

The document was handed out since 7:00 am on February 8, 2004. Hundreds of people were given this document by Colodia soldiers to pass out to anyone they find. A few soldiers even surrendered themselves to the Chellian forces to the West to show them this document.

It says:

Hello citizens of Colodia, soldiers of Colodia, and soldiers of Chellis and Shildonia. This is Supreme Commander Leon Quev. If it were possible, I'd give the nation this message on Live TV, but thank the Shildonians from taking away that liberty. Anyways, this is a document announcing the official surrender of Colodia to the forces of Chellis, as they are the ones who have asked us to comply first.

Colodia will surrender Chellis and their demands that were given to me mere days ago. The following are the conditions we agree to comply with.

1. Immediate seize-fire. The Army will not fire a bullet on Chellis or Shildonian forces. Nor will the Navy or the Air Force attack Chellis or Shildonian forces.

2. We will allow letting Colodia be under MIMIMIZED command of Chellis, provided they help build the country they helped destroy. We agree that you will force us to veto national decisions, AS LONG AS we do something that is as bad as harbouring terrorists or nuking without reason, etc.

3. We will allow Chellis to use Colodian airfields and allow around 2 Chellian divisions and assorted Naval forces in the nation. However, our military will continue to progress, under supervision of Chellis.

4. Chellis is the only nation with this type of authority over us, and will enforce it. Chellis will help rebuild the nation. Although Chellis will have to be more detailed by what they mean by new business deals, "etc."

The Federal Government of Colodia has agreed with these terms. With the same agreement from Chellis, all offensive attacks from our two nations will stop, so should Shildonia's.

Hopefully, the remaining power of Colodia, and the Chellis power can help rebuild Colodia, and set it to the path it was headed to.

The reasons we are forced to surrender include:

A. Large-scale Chellian airborne attack
B. Large-scale Chellian ground attack
C. Shildonian Naval blockade
D. The Colodian Space Agency lost many jobs
E. Fear of Shildonia using the nuclear-satellite
F. Weakness of Colodian forces compared to both Chellis AND Shildonia

The Federal Government is not happy to do this. But, on 10:17, Colodian Standard Time, on February 7, 2004, Colodia has agreed to surrender to Chellis under the above terms.

Signed,

Leon Quev, President/Supreme Commander
Joseph Kevlin, Vice-President
Alex Jergohn, National Relations
Jack Domest, Forgein Relations
Judge Farthur, Supreme Judge
George Onimous, Army Commander
Terry Johnson, Navy Commander
Ronald Cerg, Air Force Commander
Shildonia
08-02-2004, 15:05
The People's Republic notes with dismay that the surrender document still makes no mention of repatriating terrorists to their nation of origin where they can face criminal charges for the crimes that they have committed, or conspired to commit. As such, this surrender is unacceptable.
Another unacceptable part of the surrender is the preferential treatment given to Chellis, even though the reasons for surrender indicate that it was ourselves that were the greatest cause for the surrender.
Colodia
09-02-2004, 03:54
The People's Republic notes with dismay that the surrender document still makes no mention of repatriating terrorists to their nation of origin where they can face criminal charges for the crimes that they have committed, or conspired to commit. As such, this surrender is unacceptable.
Another unacceptable part of the surrender is the preferential treatment given to Chellis, even though the reasons for surrender indicate that it was ourselves that were the greatest cause for the surrender.

Check the earlier pages. I believe I've already adressed the problem with terrorists running around the nation. Several nations, including my own, are in the country and looking for terrorists. However, I still feel it isn't as clear as it should on our new policy of dealing with terrorists. In a few hours, I will post a second document detailing what we will do with terrorists within the nation.

Second, Chellis WAS the first nation to tell me to comply with his demands he sent earlier in a .mp3 format.
Shildonia
09-02-2004, 19:34
A law will be passed in the next few hours, allowing forgein nations to come in, capture criminals, do what they will, and return them to Colodia in living condition

Our only request in this entire conflict has been that terrorists be handed over and allowed to face trial by the people they have conspired against. The current Colodian policy appears to be that terrorists will be allowed to remain in Colodia without facing justice and where they can continue to plot terrorist acts against innocent civillians safe in the knowledge that they cannot face justice.
Our one request has been that this policy be reversed, but it hasn't. This blatant stubborness forced military action to be taken. Even when the weak allowed the wool to be pulled over their eyes by pseudo-concessions we held to our convictions and maintained our stance. Until this one simple request is met there can be no peace whatsoever.
Colodia
09-02-2004, 22:20
A law will be passed in the next few hours, allowing forgein nations to come in, capture criminals, do what they will, and return them to Colodia in living condition

Our only request in this entire conflict has been that terrorists be handed over and allowed to face trial by the people they have conspired against. The current Colodian policy appears to be that terrorists will be allowed to remain in Colodia without facing justice and where they can continue to plot terrorist acts against innocent civillians safe in the knowledge that they cannot face justice.
Our one request has been that this policy be reversed, but it hasn't. This blatant stubborness forced military action to be taken. Even when the weak allowed the wool to be pulled over their eyes by pseudo-concessions we held to our convictions and maintained our stance. Until this one simple request is met there can be no peace whatsoever.

Fine...here's a brief overview of the law

If Colodia finds terrorists that have plotted/plotting/or taken action against another nation, than that terrorist will be sent to a fair trial within 24 hours after his arrest. Should the terrorist be found guilty, he will be given to the country he had plotted/been plotting/or taken action against. That nation will decide on the punishment.

If another nation (the one that was victimized by the terrorist) finds the terrorist, than that nation will choose to either, A. take that terrorist into their custody and do what they will, or B. give that terrorist to Colodia and Colodia will give a fair trial and choose the punishment. Should the terrorist be handed to Colodia, than the terrorist will not be handed over to another country.

If a nation that wasn't victimized in any way by the terrorist they captured, than they WILL hand that terrorist to Colodia. Colodia will give that terrorist a fair trial, and if found guilty, will be handed over to the nation the terrorist victimized.


I believe this will make everyone happy. No?
Shildonia
09-02-2004, 23:35
Terrorists must face trial by the nation against whom they plotted irrespective of whether an act has been committed. No doubt most nations have laws concerning conspiracy to commit murder, or conspiracy to commit arson or conspiracy to commit whatever other forms this terrorism would take place as, and so terrorists and would-be terrorists must face trial for these crimes. Crime is Crime is Crime, and those who commit crime must face up to the consequences whether the crime is detonating a bomb in a shopping centre or stealing a loaf of bread. It is crime and there is no distinction and they must face trial.
It is completely wrong that terrorists who are in Colodia by invitation should be tried by Colodia, a nation whom wishes to retain terrorists to fight wars by proxy. This is completly unacceptable. Not only must justice be done, but it must be seen to be done, and it is impossible to see how justice can be done by a nation that does willingly and knowingly harbour terrorists. They must face trial by those they sought to wrong. This is one of the most fundamental tennets of justice and it cannot be waived simply so that the Colodians can have an army of faithful murderers who delight in the slaughter of the innocent.
There can be no compromise on this issue. Justice must be done and it must be done by those who have been wronged so that those who have been wronged can see that justice has been done by their own hands and not by the hands of the men who ordered the wrongs to be done in the first place.
Here we stand, and we will stand until our simple request is met.
Colodia
10-02-2004, 00:15
We are merely giving the terrorists a fair trial to be CERTAIN that they have plotted or were plotting criminal acts. We don't wanna hand you over a Middle Eastern man and call him a terrorist just because he scribbles anti-Shildonian stuff all over his walls. UNLESS THERE IS PROOF THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CRIME, THEY WILL NOT DO THE TIME. BE IT IN COLODIA, OR IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE WORLD.
Colodia
10-02-2004, 00:15
We are merely giving the terrorists a fair trial to be CERTAIN that they have plotted or were plotting criminal acts. We don't wanna hand you over a Middle Eastern man and call him a terrorist just because he scribbles anti-Shildonian stuff all over his walls. UNLESS THERE IS PROOF THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CRIME, THEY WILL NOT DO THE TIME. BE IT IN COLODIA, OR IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE WORLD.
Shildonia
10-02-2004, 00:32
The only way to be sure that a suspect is guilty is through a fair trial. This trial must be carried out by the people against whom the suspect has acted. If the trial where carried out by the people who give the suspect safe haven and who have a vested interest in suppressing the truth of their harbouring of terrorists then it is likely that the suspect will simply be found not guilty so as not to embarrass the Colodian government by revealing further details of the terrorist loving leaders.
Colodia
10-02-2004, 00:44
The only way to be sure that a suspect is guilty is through a fair trial. This trial must be carried out by the people against whom the suspect has acted. If the trial where carried out by the people who give the suspect safe haven and who have a vested interest in suppressing the truth of their harbouring of terrorists then it is likely that the suspect will simply be found not guilty so as not to embarrass the Colodian government by revealing further details of the terrorist loving leaders.

So...you believe that one or more members of the federal government still wish to keep terrorists. I understand how you came to that opinion. I see how you will not trust the judges. Why doesn't the Ambassadors to Colodia watch over the trial and make sure that the Judge doesn't take sides to EITHER the terrorists or the accusing nation/s.

If not Ambassadors, how about Judges from the accusing nation/s?

Remember, this is a trial seeing if the terrorist is guilty or not. After the trial, if the terrorist is found guilty, he/she will be handed over for another trial (if the victimized nation wants it)
Shildonia
10-02-2004, 00:48
It is not the role of your courts to ascertain the suspects guilt. That role lies with the wronged nation. The only role of the Colodian courts is to hold an extradition hearing, the only purpose of which is to see whether the suspect should be extradited to the wronged nation to face justice.
Colodia
10-02-2004, 01:33
It is not the role of your courts to ascertain the suspects guilt. That role lies with the wronged nation. The only role of the Colodian courts is to hold an extradition hearing, the only purpose of which is to see whether the suspect should be extradited to the wronged nation to face justice.

Well I've done the best I can do. But remember, Chellis here should have a say in the matter, seeing as how we're surrendering to him.
Colodia
11-02-2004, 05:29
bump
Chellis
11-02-2004, 07:31
Chellis, first off, is very glad that Colodia has chosen the right choice and surrendured for the good of its people.

Second, All forces have been recalled for immediate withdrawl, with the exception of one division which are to head for the capital, the second division will come with the staying naval and air forces.

Third, on the court matter, Chellis believes that Colodian courts should be allowed to try a suspected terrorist, to see if they are guilty. However, if the suspect is not a colodian citizen, he is to be sent to the victim nation.

Furthermore, the victim nation would be allowed to use its own lawyers and evidence to try and prove the victim wrong, regardless of the victim. If the colodian court finds the member guilty, it is to be sent to the victimized country to be dealt with according to their laws.

The colodian courts would have supervisors either from the victimized country, or chellis if more convinient. These colodian courts would be much more third party and unbiased. Also, a colodian citizen cannot be tried twice for the same act of terrorism, double-jeopardy would not be allowed.

On a final note, chellis would like to clarify one of its terms. Chellian buisnesses would be given higher priority on new oppertunities in Colodia, such as mining of natural resources, etc. The Colodian government would enjoy the same profit they would if it was one of their own governments, but deals would be biased in favour of chellian ones, at least indefidentally. This will help us rebuild, for one thing.
Shildonia
11-02-2004, 12:36
Since the Colodian government insists on harbouring criminals with no regard for the ordinary practise of extraditions we have no choice but to continue hostilities.

Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.
Colodia
12-02-2004, 06:03
Agreed Chellis...however...I think you should bring back your military. Seems like Shildonia won't stop.

Colodia has surrendered to Chellis! The war is 50% over!

In a dramatic radio announcement a few days ago, President Leon Quev announced Colodia's surrender to Chellis. Quev said that this surrender was to ensure that the future of Colodia will not be that of a 3rd-world country. It appears that the Chellian government has accepted Colodia's surrender.

However, Shildonia isn't happy. They STILL believe that the Colodian government is terrorist-friendly. It hasn't been announced as of yet, but hopefully Chellis will ally with Colodia to get rid of Shildonia. Hopefully.

If not, Quev has asked that the nation to head on over to their nearest gun-store and buy the best gun they can handle and get their hands on. Whether the war will continue to be the hell that was inevitable when Colodia didn't surrender to Chellis, or not, it isn't certain yet.

Here are some direct quotes from Leon Quev's announcement after hearing that Shildonia hasn't stopped the fighting.

"Shildonia is a cruel, imperialist nation. Thier unwilliness to win a war without bloodshed is exactly the reason why we never surrendered to them in the first place."

"They want a fight? They'll get a fight! At the moment, trenches and snipers are being located strateigicaly across the Colodian soil. The nuclear satellite is still in orbit, and is currently over the nation of Catholic Europe, however, in 12 hours (it's slowly orbiting the planet) it'll be above Shildonia's capitol! At that time, is when we'll see if Shildonia is ready to have the war taken to THEIR country!"

"I want Carls Jr."
Chellis
12-02-2004, 07:46
First off, chellis orders Shildonia to stop all possible aggresions on Colodia.

Second, your points are completely invalid and biased. Colodia is now under the protective wing of chellis. They will not be allowed to harbour terrorists on any level that we can find.

Colodian courts will deal with charging any colodian citizens believed to be terrorists. The Juries will be third party, unbiased Colodians. If they find the citizen to be a terrorist, they will send that citizen to the victimized nation.

These courts will be overseen by Chellians, and if you are civil about this matter, Shildonians as well. Chellis has control over the terrorist situation.

Third, if you do not stop hostilities, we will be forced to attack your forces. We havn't begun to move the troops out of colodia, and only have more coming. We also have airstrips and bases all over the world, including torres, Colodia, Mozambique, Chellis, Whittier, and other places.

Do not provoke us, we have only shown part of our awesome strength in this war, we do not want to have to use it all.
Colodia
13-02-2004, 06:07
Colodia
13-02-2004, 06:08
Oh, and apoligiez to Chellis for not being able to get you the message of surrender until AFTER many of your men were killed in the parachuting.... :? Never really expected it.

Colodian soldiers are building bunkers, on ocean shores, at a heavy pace in order to kill off any naval landing on Colodian ground. These bunkers will be equipped with about 3 stationary machine guns. The kind that are able to fire AN EXTRME amount of bullets in a short time since it doesn't need to be mobile. These bunkers are being put in strategic locations.

Night-vision goggles are given to the 5 soldiers in each of these bunkers to spot out for Shildonians that use the night as camulfloge.

Skyscrapers all around the Colodian capitol are being used for snipers to oversee a large amount of area.

In the army, teams of 15 head out to guard a certain block of land they are assinged to. They are well equipped with 3 Panzerfast Anti-Tank weapons, and 2 snipers, as well as AK-47's for each soldier.

Colodian F-15's are patrolling the skies for any possible enemy aircraft. They stay well away from the known Anti-Aircraft firing capabilities of the Shildonian Navy.
Chellis
13-02-2004, 06:29
Chellis doesnt blame colodia for any wartime casualties, and puts no direct reparations on the country.

Second, Chellian Military Buisness's would like to work with you in the building of a better colodian army. Chellian weaponry, usually restricted to the public, would be yours at regular (low) prices. Ga-1 Disposable Missile launchers(better than say the Panzerfaust 150/M72), G3-a2 144mm Missile launchers(Similar to Milan), other chellian weapons, and almost any real life weaponry...

Third, we can also help you make fortifications, as chellis already has a nationwide defense system, including a coastal fortification force manned 24/7, and SAM system that provides a full aerial cover. We can also help you set up national defenses.
Colodia
13-02-2004, 06:38
Chellis doesnt blame colodia for any wartime casualties, and puts no direct reparations on the country.

Second, Chellian Military Buisness's would like to work with you in the building of a better colodian army. Chellian weaponry, usually restricted to the public, would be yours at regular (low) prices. Ga-1 Disposable Missile launchers(better than say the Panzerfaust 150/M72), G3-a2 144mm Missile launchers(Similar to Milan), other chellian weapons, and almost any real life weaponry...

Third, we can also help you make fortifications, as chellis already has a nationwide defense system, including a coastal fortification force manned 24/7, and SAM system that provides a full aerial cover. We can also help you set up national defenses.

More info. on the stuff you talked about in your 2nd paragraph, capabilities of these weapons are what we need.

The nationwide defense system is an A.O.K. though!
Shildonia
13-02-2004, 10:02
Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

Damage report?
Colodia
14-02-2004, 01:41
Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

Damage report?

Reasons for 45 min. blackout revealed!

The blackout that occured in Colodia's beach city of Little Beach has finally been released to the public how it happened.

An estimated 12 Shildonian fighters destroyed the power plant 5 km. north of Little Beach. Fortunatly, since 70% of Colodia's power comes from Nuclear reactors, the damage was surpressed, and the power was easily relocated to Little Beach within 45 minutes. But why were the Shildonian fighters able to fly over Colodia's populated city?

"Well, we just weren't up to it" said Army spokesman Gerald Ford, "this occured just after we surrendered to Chellis. We never thought that Shildonia would keep up it's war. The soldiers were also un-prepared to take these planes down. Personally, I think that our Supreme Commander, Leon Quev, is not up to the challenge of being our Supreme Commander. The election this year will see if Quev's made good judgements. Yes, he did manage to get Chellis on our side, but at the cost of surrendering Colodia's dignity and many other things."

129 people died. Twas a good thing that the strike occured late at night, otherwise it is estimated that the death toll from this attack would reach 580!
Colodia
14-02-2004, 01:42
Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

Damage report?

Reasons for 45 min. blackout revealed!

The blackout that occured in Colodia's beach city of Little Beach has finally been released to the public how it happened.

An estimated 12 Shildonian fighters destroyed the power plant 5 km. north of Little Beach. Fortunatly, since 70% of Colodia's power comes from Nuclear reactors, the damage was surpressed, and the power was easily relocated to Little Beach within 45 minutes. But why were the Shildonian fighters able to fly over Colodia's populated city?

"Well, we just weren't up to it" said Army spokesman Gerald Ford, "this occured just after we surrendered to Chellis. We never thought that Shildonia would keep up it's war. The soldiers were also un-prepared to take these planes down. Personally, I think that our Supreme Commander, Leon Quev, is not up to the challenge of being our Supreme Commander. The election this year will see if Quev's made good judgements. Yes, he did manage to get Chellis on our side, but at the cost of surrendering Colodia's dignity and many other things."

129 people died. Twas a good thing that the strike occured late at night, otherwise it is estimated that the death toll from this attack would reach 580!
Chellis
14-02-2004, 08:59
Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

Damage report?

Chellis warns if so much as a shildonian bb gun hits a colodian citizen, chellis will declare war.
Colodia
14-02-2004, 09:11
Twelve Vampire-class stealth bombers take off from their base in Shildonia. Each carries 15 SHOC supersonic stand-off missiles, targetted for Colodian fuel refineries and non-nuclear power plants. Escorting the Vampires are eight F-52 Minotaurs carrying 54 Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

Damage report?

Chellis warns if so much as a shildonian bb gun hits a colodian citizen, chellis will declare war.

129 civilian deaths as you can see...
Chellis
14-02-2004, 11:26
He ordered that before my proclomation, im giving him one final chance.
Shildonia
14-02-2004, 13:40
We are willing to compromise. We do not wish any harm upon the Chellian people, and we do not wish to go to war with a nation we have fought alongside.
We realise that Colodia will not hand over all the terrorists to the nations they have plotted against, so all we ask now is that an extradition treaty be signed with us so that the terrorists that plot against Shildonia will be handed over on completion of an extradition hearing (the purpose of which is not to ascertain guilt, merely to find out if there is any evidence against the defendant. If there is, then the defendant is extradited to Shildonia for trial. If there isn't, then he isn't.)
This will lead to a ceasefire, which may be turned into a permanent peace if the terms of the extradition treaty are abided by. If they are not, and the Colodia government persists in harbouring rebels then the conflict may be resumed at any time of our choosing to ensure that no rebels or terrorists enjoy the protection of the Colodian government.

Secret transmission to Gerald Ford:
We note from your TV appearance that you are opposed Quev, who has invited destruction upon your peoples land by granting safe haven to terrorists, only to surrender what little dignity he had left by granting the Chellians free run over Colodia, while shunning our simple request for an extradition treaty.
Perhaps if you could give us the location of Quev's bunker, there may be an airstrike against it. Surely the people of Colodia would look favourably on an act of patriotism such as this, since it would lead to the end of this conflict before further lives are lost.

(We fired 180 missiles at you, which were targetted at all non-nuclear power plants, and at fuel refineries. This would probably do more than just destroying one power plant. If you don't have any more conventional power plants or fuel refineries then some of the missiles would have been targetted for fuel dumps etc.)
Colodia
14-02-2004, 23:20
Double!
Colodia
14-02-2004, 23:21
Secret reply to Shildonian leader from Gerald Ford:
I would be happy to give you the location to Leon Quev's bunker. However, you must remember I am a mere spokesman, not a military/government high official. There are 10 possible locations he is in. However, you know that this can backfire upon me and turn me into a traitor of Colodia! I'm against Leon Quev, not Colodia.

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OOC: God gawd, 180 missles? Argh...fine tally the death toll to 430 and another blackout in the city of Portunal.

Also, concerning the terrorist plane attack, just act like it never happened

IC:

BREAKING NEWS! 12 Terrorists captured by the Colodian TerrorFighters Police Diviosion!

In a daring raid conducted at 3:24 am Colodian Standard Time, The Colodian TerrorFighters (the new Colodian Police Division) captured suspected terrorists who seemed to be in an organization named "Calas".

"This is a historic day for Colodia!" TerrorFighter Chief Harrison Optomi said, "Once we prove these terrorists guilty, with evidence that we gathered from their apartment building in Terrance (100 mi. Southwest of Colodia's capitol) we'll find out what nation they were plotting against."

President Leon Quev also made a speech earlier today.

"Well done TerrorFighters! Today, you have helped your nation greatly. Hopefully, Shildonia will first-handedly see that Colodia is NOT a terrorist haven. Hopefully, they will stand down and make peace."

"Chief Optomi has told me that this raid was planned since the TerrorFighters was established BEFORE the Chellis and Shildonian war. So you see, all the time Shildonia was figting us to rid the world of another "supposed" terrorist-harbouring nation, we WERE BUSY FINDING THE TERRORISTS!"

No photography was allowed, and officials say that the terrorists will have their trial in a mere 24 hours. Chellian officials are inevitably coming. Shildonian officials are invited, and it is strongly suggested they attend to "burn out the fire that's melting away peace"
Colodia
15-02-2004, 10:09
bump
Shildonia
16-02-2004, 02:17
Reply to Gerald Ford from High Chairman Kevenich himself:
Dear Mr Ford,
Thank you for your brave efforts towards ending this conflict. You are most decidedly not a traitor. You are a patriot, who recognises that it is possible to love one's country but to despise it's leaders. Doubtless, your name will go down in history alongside Colonel von Stauffenberg - another brave individual who saw the evil of his countries government, and took steps to remove this evil and end another destructive war. Let us hope that you have a better fate than Colonel von Stauffenberg.
You may also be interested to know that I have nominated you for the Order of Silex. This is the highest honour that can be bestowed upon a foreign citizen, and I look forward to meeting you after the war so I can personally pin the medal upon your chest.

Yours sincerely,
High Chairman James Kevenich Esq. DoF. KBE. BsC

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In order to guard against Chellian reinforcements from landing, and to prevent war matrials from being supplied, 20 Vampire class stealth bombers each carrying eighty 500lb mines (that's a total of 1600mines) have been sent to mine the approaches to major Colodian ports. The mines will be laid approximately 10miles from the coast. Escorting the Vampires are six Minotaurs, which due to their larger radar size stay 30 miles from the coast to avoid being targetted by SAMs. Each Minotaur carries it's usual load of 56 Phoenix missiles to defend against enemy fighters.
Another flight of four Vampires, each carrying 10 SHOC supersonic stand off missiles (a total of 40 missiles, 4 on each target) are sent to attack the 10 locations pinpointed by Gerald Ford as possible locations for Leon Quev. These are escorted by 2 Minotaurs, and launch their missiles from a range of 450 miles from each of the targets.

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At sea, 35 Tomahawk cruise missiles are launched against communications facilities, in particularly satallite receiving stations, in an attempt to sever the communications link with the "nuclear satallite" (which presumably has by now passed Shildonia City and is off on its way to wherever else it is going).
The taskforce then shifts location by 50 miles in an attempt to move further from the Chellian fleet. ASW patrols are stepped up, assisted by Nimrods operating on long range missions from bases in Shildonia.

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Meanwhile, on Colodian TV and Radio tonight:

When Bunkers Collapse - A hilarious look at exactly what happens when the homes of despots are attacked by angry mobs, or airstrikes. Features an interview with An Actor Portraying Saddam Hussein
When Nuclear Power Plants Explode - A sobering look at just how often nuclear power plants go into meltdown. Features exclusive interviews with An Actor Portraying the Head of a Colodian Nuclear Power Plant, who talks about criminal mismanagement and horrendously poor safety practises in Colodian power plants
The Nazi Plot To Kill Hitler - A look at Colonel von Stauffenberg's plot to assasinate the Fuher, and his unfortunate failure.
2DTV: Colodian Edition - More animated satire from the hit TV show.
Are you their Quev? It's me, Margaret - A look at Leon Quev's dictatorial style of Government. Does he actually care about the well-being of his subjects?
Theakston Investigates: Chellian War Crimes - A look at the alleged attrocities being committed by Chellian troops in Colodia. Featuring an interview with An Actress Portraying a Woman who Claims to Have Been Gangraped by a mob of Chellian Troops.
And of course, all the latest unbiased news as it happens, mostly attempting to create bad feeling towards Chellian troops, but also featuring an interview with A Little Girl Whose Kitten Was Brutally Raped and Murdered by Colodian Terrorists. Followed by The Weather, with Bob Johnson and Michael Fish.
Colodia
16-02-2004, 03:13
Reply to Gerald Ford from High Chairman Kevenich himself:
Dear Mr Ford,
Thank you for your brave efforts towards ending this conflict. You are most decidedly not a traitor. You are a patriot, who recognises that it is possible to love one's country but to despise it's leaders. Doubtless, your name will go down in history alongside Colonel von Stauffenberg - another brave individual who saw the evil of his countries government, and took steps to remove this evil and end another destructive war. Let us hope that you have a better fate than Colonel von Stauffenberg.
You may also be interested to know that I have nominated you for the Order of Silex. This is the highest honour that can be bestowed upon a foreign citizen, and I look forward to meeting you after the war so I can personally pin the medal upon your chest.

Yours sincerely,
High Chairman James Kevenich Esq. DoF. KBE. BsC

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In order to guard against Chellian reinforcements from landing, and to prevent war matrials from being supplied, 20 Vampire class stealth bombers each carrying eighty 500lb mines (that's a total of 1600mines) have been sent to mine the approaches to major Colodian ports. The mines will be laid approximately 10miles from the coast. Escorting the Vampires are six Minotaurs, which due to their larger radar size stay 30 miles from the coast to avoid being targetted by SAMs. Each Minotaur carries it's usual load of 56 Phoenix missiles to defend against enemy fighters.
Another flight of four Vampires, each carrying 10 SHOC supersonic stand off missiles (a total of 40 missiles, 4 on each target) are sent to attack the 10 locations pinpointed by Gerald Ford as possible locations for Leon Quev. These are escorted by 2 Minotaurs, and launch their missiles from a range of 450 miles from each of the targets.

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At sea, 35 Tomahawk cruise missiles are launched against communications facilities, in particularly satallite receiving stations, in an attempt to sever the communications link with the "nuclear satallite" (which presumably has by now passed Shildonia City and is off on its way to wherever else it is going).
The taskforce then shifts location by 50 miles in an attempt to move further from the Chellian fleet. ASW patrols are stepped up, assisted by Nimrods operating on long range missions from bases in Shildonia.

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Meanwhile, on Colodian TV and Radio tonight:

When Bunkers Collapse - A hilarious look at exactly what happens when the homes of despots are attacked by angry mobs, or airstrikes. Features an interview with An Actor Portraying Saddam Hussein
When Nuclear Power Plants Explode - A sobering look at just how often nuclear power plants go into meltdown. Features exclusive interviews with An Actor Portraying the Head of a Colodian Nuclear Power Plant, who talks about criminal mismanagement and horrendously poor safety practises in Colodian power plants
The Nazi Plot To Kill Hitler - A look at Colonel von Stauffenberg's plot to assasinate the Fuher, and his unfortunate failure.
2DTV: Colodian Edition - More animated satire from the hit TV show.
Are you their Quev? It's me, Margaret - A look at Leon Quev's dictatorial style of Government. Does he actually care about the well-being of his subjects?
Theakston Investigates: Chellian War Crimes - A look at the alleged attrocities being committed by Chellian troops in Colodia. Featuring an interview with An Actress Portraying a Woman who Claims to Have Been Gangraped by a mob of Chellian Troops.
And of course, all the latest unbiased news as it happens, mostly attempting to create bad feeling towards Chellian troops, but also featuring an interview with A Little Girl Whose Kitten Was Brutally Raped and Murdered by Colodian Terrorists. Followed by The Weather, with Bob Johnson and Michael Fish.

To: Kevenich
From: Gerald Ford
Alas, I'd appreciate very much if you get me out of the country A.S.A.P. I fear intelligence leaks and a mob coming to my home. Your going to have to figure out how to reach me however, since the borders are heavily guarded.

--

Soldiers working the AA guns in key Targetted-Ports immediatly get to their guns and shoot at the planes in the sky. Another group of AA shooters shot at the visible mines to destroy as much as possible.

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Seeing the approaching tomahawks, 12 Colodian F-18 fighters scramble and split up to intercept the missles. They used anti-missle weaponry to take down 23 tomahawks. Unfortunatly, the Quev Space Center and the Main launch tower were heavily destroyed. Death toll tallied up to 213, and that's without digging through the rubble.

The Main Colodian Space Agency satellite receivers were left intact thanks to the hard work of the Colodian F-18 Fighters. The Agency rooftops are now filled with AA guns, Missle launchers, snipers, and is watched over by 4 F-15 Fighters.
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BREAKING NEWS! Leon Quev goes missing!

Following Quev's announcement on the captured terrorists last night, Leon went missing. Military officials left the media with little information to go over. This is basically what they told us.

- Leon Quev is missing, and in an unknown condition
- Quev was last seen in a bunker by the Vice-President
- The Vice-President was placed in a seperate bunker from Leon Quev, in the event Leon should be attacked
- If Quev is found dead, the Vice-President will become the new President.
- Shildonian fighters were seen in Colodian skies, one was shot down by a passing F-15 that barely managed to escape the Shildonians with his life.

The body inside the craft is dead, and after medical officials are done with it. The head of the body will be cut off and placed on a long metal stick in front of the capitol's gates for everyone to mock and laugh at it.

The aircraft shotdown was a Shildonian Vampire, which is overly used by Shildonian forces. Civilians that got to the aircraft before officials spray-painted the craft with words like "F--- the pilot of this craft!" and "AHAHAHAHA! One down, more to go!"

Personally, I liked the funny guy who painted the inside of the cockpit with red (blood), and the seat yellow (piss)
Colodia
16-02-2004, 06:44
Secret message to Chellis:
From: Leon Quev
I am in need of help. Do not worry, I am in no danger. Someone (mostly likely a low-class official) told Shildonia about 10 of my secret bunkers. HA! Luckily only the Federal officials know of my true hiding places. However, I fear another Shildonian strike. Can you help me? Maybe escort me to another secret bunker that only I and the Chellis leader will know of?
Shildonia
16-02-2004, 18:03
(Just for reference, the Vampire has a three man crew, the Minotaur has a seven man crew, and the Phoenix has a range of over 100miles, and has been shown in real life trials to have a 83.3% success rate, although it would have been 100% if one of the target drones hadn't crashed before the missile hit)

Public outcry has been so great over the desecration of the dead that action has to be taken against the sadistic people that committed these attrocities. To this end, a flight of 4 Venona class supersonic bombers have been sent to carpet bomb the city with CBU 75s. Each Venona carries 10 CBU 75s, each capable of covering an area equivalent to 157 football with 1800 500gram bomblets. 10% of the bomblets will detonate immediatly, 60% will detonate at random intervals over the next seven days, and the remaining 30% will detonate if tampered with. Better hope your bomb disposal guys are up to the job.
The Venona's will be fighting their way past Colodian air defences using Krypton anti-radar missiles, with a range of 44miles, and a speed of Mach 4.5. Each Venona carries 30 Kryptons.
To evade detection, the ingress and egress will be made using the Computer Generated Lowest Altitude system to stay as low as possible, with the actual bomb run being made at 500 feet at Mach 1.3. It is hoped the large sonic booms will strike fear into the hearts of the people on the ground, not to mention the cluster bombs.
The only defence against fighters is the Venonas incredible speed. It is capable of Mach 2 without using afterburners, giving it remarkably good fuel consumption. Each Venona also carries a set of five rocket propelled glider decoys, as well as chaff, flares and jamming equipment.

Another five flights each consisting of four Venona's have been tasked to destroy Colodian airfields close to the coast.
These Venonas each carry 5 Durandal anti-runway bombs capable of a 200sq metre crater, 5 CBU 75s to prevent repairs being made to the runways, 30 Krypton anti-radar missiles, and 25 1000lb bombs to destroy HAS (Hardened Aircraft Shelter), fuel dumps etc.
These also use Computer Generated Lowest Altitude for the ingress and egress, with the actual bomb run being made at 200 feet.

A further 30 Tomahawks are launched at the remaining satalite recieving stations, in the hope that they will be more sucessfull due to the other air raids taking place.
Chellis
17-02-2004, 00:41
Chellian message to Shildonian Leader/officials:

We do not agree with your terms, as Shildonian citizens are biased against terrorists, and would not make for a fair trial. We would be willing to have chellian or colodian civilians be the jury and have it in shildonia, or if you can think of another alternative that doesnt use shildonian jury members, then we can come to an agreement.

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Chellian Message to Leon Quev:

We will indeed help you. We have our military forces around the country, simply find one and ask for diplomatic protection and secrecy. We will make sure you get to a safe place after that.

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At the Colodian Capital, 60 RAA Aircraft patrol regularly, to help protect it from any type of attack. 12 P-3's armed with Helen heavy ATA missiles are also ready to launch anytime.

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Large naval convoys and air convoys even have begun heading towards Colodia. They are heavily defended, and will fire at the first sign of aggresion. They plan on resupplying chellian military forces.

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Chellian MP's have begun working with Colodian Terror Police to seek out terrorists and restore order in colodia.

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Many Chellian troops have begun creating Colodian Militias, arming and training Colodian citizens and supplying them, mostly with Famas G2's and Colt 1911a1's(We mass produce both in great numbers).

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Chellian Officials have begun to convict suspected Colodian terrorists, re-organize the colodian judicial system(partially), and make changes in colodian government so nothing like the terrorist situation could ever happen again.

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Chellian workers have begun arriving in Colodia, and starting on the nationwide defense system of Passive Radar, Sam Sites, and Stand-off Missile Launchers(Ballistic missiles that are meant to intercept enemy aircraft out of the range of the SAMs, so they arent susceptible to long range enemy missiles.).
Shildonia
17-02-2004, 00:58
Chellian message to Shildonian Leader/officials:

We do not agree with your terms, as Shildonian citizens are biased against terrorists, and would not make for a fair trial. We would be willing to have chellian or colodian civilians be the jury and have it in shildonia, or if you can think of another alternative that doesnt use shildonian jury members, then we can come to an agreement.


Trials of terrorists are done using Diplock courts*. This is because trials of terrorists tend to involve sensitive information, and because we do not wish for the jurors to be threatened by terrorists.
As for the bias, I think that may stem from the whole "murdering civillians" thing. Shildonians have traditionally objected to being shot at, or blown up. Can't for the life of me think why that could be. Oh well, I guess it's just one of our foibles.

* A court where a Judge sits without a jury, as used by the UK in Northern Ireland while trying IRA members. Technically it's a violation of that UN Fair Trials Resolution, but under Shildonian Law UN resolutions can be waived in cases of national security. Which is in itself a violation of UN law, but I'd like to see them try to enforce it.
Colodia
17-02-2004, 06:23
(Just for reference, the Vampire has a three man crew, the Minotaur has a seven man crew, and the Phoenix has a range of over 100miles, and has been shown in real life trials to have a 83.3% success rate, although it would have been 100% if one of the target drones hadn't crashed before the missile hit)

Public outcry has been so great over the desecration of the dead that action has to be taken against the sadistic people that committed these attrocities. To this end, a flight of 4 Venona class supersonic bombers have been sent to carpet bomb the city with CBU 75s. Each Venona carries 10 CBU 75s, each capable of covering an area equivalent to 157 football with 1800 500gram bomblets. 10% of the bomblets will detonate immediatly, 60% will detonate at random intervals over the next seven days, and the remaining 30% will detonate if tampered with. Better hope your bomb disposal guys are up to the job.
The Venona's will be fighting their way past Colodian air defences using Krypton anti-radar missiles, with a range of 44miles, and a speed of Mach 4.5. Each Venona carries 30 Kryptons.
To evade detection, the ingress and egress will be made using the Computer Generated Lowest Altitude system to stay as low as possible, with the actual bomb run being made at 500 feet at Mach 1.3. It is hoped the large sonic booms will strike fear into the hearts of the people on the ground, not to mention the cluster bombs.
The only defence against fighters is the Venonas incredible speed. It is capable of Mach 2 without using afterburners, giving it remarkably good fuel consumption. Each Venona also carries a set of five rocket propelled glider decoys, as well as chaff, flares and jamming equipment.

Another five flights each consisting of four Venona's have been tasked to destroy Colodian airfields close to the coast.
These Venonas each carry 5 Durandal anti-runway bombs capable of a 200sq metre crater, 5 CBU 75s to prevent repairs being made to the runways, 30 Krypton anti-radar missiles, and 25 1000lb bombs to destroy HAS (Hardened Aircraft Shelter), fuel dumps etc.
These also use Computer Generated Lowest Altitude for the ingress and egress, with the actual bomb run being made at 200 feet.

A further 30 Tomahawks are launched at the remaining satalite recieving stations, in the hope that they will be more sucessfull due to the other air raids taking place.

OOC: Ya think you can say something about the 12 captured terrorists?

IC:

It had seemed that two of the Shildonian pilots had attempted to escape from the burning wreck. They were immediatly captured 23 miles from the original wreckage point. Luckily they were captued by the Colodian military rather than citizens, otherwise the pilots would've died a terrible death.

The pilots were videotaped and sent to a maximum security prison in Kukagstan. The videotape was given to a civilian leaving the country. Hopefully Shildonian media will find their way to the tape. And see that their "All-powerful air-force pilots" are nothing more than prisoners to us. Dirty, unshaven, ugly prisoners.

The videotape showed the two pilots giving their names and Division number. As well as anyother personal ID's they had. They were blindfolded and were given the freedom to say something personal to any family. The tape also showed the prison they were staying in was in good order. However, this is just because these two men serve as a warning to all other incoming military units. Once we get our 5th POW, the POW's will be sent off to WORSE conditions. Much worse.

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The 4 Vinera bombers were immediatly spotted visually and was intercepted by 3 Colodian F-15's. The fighters launched their missles against the plane for one nice kill. Killing all pilots within the plane

The remaing 3 met up with 5 more Colodian F-15's (btw, this city was NOT by the coast) after one hell of a dog-fight, the F-15's took down two more bombers. Unfortunatly, they had to stop and refuel.

The final bomber was already taken care of by a SAM missle that detected the incoming bomber. In short, whoosh crash boom X_X

The wreckage was immediatly given EMS units to check up on. Apparently, there were no survivors. Tis a joyous victory for Colodia

The bombs inside the bombers had detonated along with the plane's crash.

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The tomahawks were well taken care of thanks to the new defensive measures. To make a long story short, the Air Force took care of 15, the Army 10, and the Navy 5.


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Shildonia
17-02-2004, 14:54
1. It was a nighttime mission and Venona's have nighttime camoflague, which makes it difficult to see them, especially over long distances, and it would be a long distance since fighters usually patrol at relatively high altitudes to save fuel, and because it's safer.
2. The Venona's wouldn't have just flown straight past your fighters, they would have tried to fly around them and then outrun them, meaning you've got a low altitude chase at high speeds which the F-15 isn't equiped for. According to Global Security (http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-15-specs.htm) the F-15 doesn't have any terrain avoiding radar, so unless your pilots have superhuman reactions they wouldn't have been able to fly so low so fast. Not to mention that using afterburners for so long would have meant running out of fuel long before firing missiles.
3. The Venona's are flying at low altitude beneath radar coverage, not to mention they are firing anti-radar missiles at your SAM sites. How were you able to get a lock on?
4. Tomahawks also fly at low altitude, and have a small radar size and a small heat signature, not to mention that they aren't going to be flying along in close formation. Again, it's not likely that you would be able to locate and shoot them all down. The reason my navy was able to shoot them down was because they were using CIWS and surface to air missiles designed to hit low flying missiles.
5. Bombs aren't usually armed until just before they are dropped.

Anyway, I'm off to the International Court to get you done for warcrimes.
Chellis
17-02-2004, 16:14
Chellian message to Shildonian Leader/officials:

We do not agree with your terms, as Shildonian citizens are biased against terrorists, and would not make for a fair trial. We would be willing to have chellian or colodian civilians be the jury and have it in shildonia, or if you can think of another alternative that doesnt use shildonian jury members, then we can come to an agreement.


Trials of terrorists are done using Diplock courts*. This is because trials of terrorists tend to involve sensitive information, and because we do not wish for the jurors to be threatened by terrorists.
As for the bias, I think that may stem from the whole "murdering civillians" thing. Shildonians have traditionally objected to being shot at, or blown up. Can't for the life of me think why that could be. Oh well, I guess it's just one of our foibles.

* A court where a Judge sits without a jury, as used by the UK in Northern Ireland while trying IRA members. Technically it's a violation of that UN Fair Trials Resolution, but under Shildonian Law UN resolutions can be waived in cases of national security. Which is in itself a violation of UN law, but I'd like to see them try to enforce it.

Then chellis finds the terms acceptable, as long as you stop hostilities
Shildonia
17-02-2004, 16:47
Hostilities will halt as soon as all POWs are repatriated, and the Colodian Government agrees to the extradition treaty.
We will however be attempted to persue a conviction for war crimes against Colodian government officials, for multiple breaches of the Geneva Convention.
Colodia
18-02-2004, 01:26
Double
Colodia
18-02-2004, 01:28
Colodia
18-02-2004, 01:32
Multiple breaches of the Geneva Conventions? Since when did those laws apply to NS?

In any case, we don't see what we could've possibly done.

Oh, and C'MON! It's not like I know much about missles and everything....All I understand is:

We got signal!
oh ****! Fire missles!
Whoosh!
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF TCK! BOOOOOOOM!
w00t!

Yeah and that's it..... :roll: I mean...it's not like these people exist in real life? SURELY I can have some POWS while you killed...oh....around 800 CIVILIANS!
Shildonia
18-02-2004, 01:42
Prisoners of War have certain rights afforded to them by the Geneva Convention. You have violated many of these rights, as detailed here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124461).
No doubt you will want to try and defend the indefensible, but just remember that ignorance of the law is not a defence, and nor is "I was only following orders". Also bear in mind that ultimate responsibility rests with the most senior official, which is presumably Leon Quev.
Let us hope he doesn't drop the soap during his time at the Hague.

As for your other point, you shouldn't get into a war RP if you don't know how the equipment used in modern warfare works.
Chellis
18-02-2004, 01:47
Chellian officials have invited shildonian officials and colodian officials to a small coastal city, where the signing of the treaty will be signed. The extradition treaty will be signed, the non-aggresion treaty and eventual end of hostilities treaty will be signed. Following this, POW's shall be returned to Shildonia, including a formal apology for any mistreatment of POW's.

Shildonians will be allowed to try Colodian officials for certain war crimes, this will be decided on after the non-aggresion treaty.

OOC: We did declare war on colodia, its not his fault for getting into a war rp.
Shildonia
18-02-2004, 02:23
To: Gerald Ford
From: Shildonian Intelligence Agency

Your exfiltration has now been planned. Try to get to the city where the treaty signing ceremony is taking place, and mak your way to the helicopters that will be bringing our official to the ceremony. Your codeword is "Conundrum", the guards will be expecting you. Bring with you any classified documents you can acquire without raising too much suspicion.
Your family(if any) is booked on a flight to Copiosa Scotia, where they will be met by officials from the Shildonian embassy before transferring to another flight to Shildonia where they will meet you.
Good luck.

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The treaty will be signed the day after next, once the necesary legislation has been passed through the Civillian Oversight Committee to enable the act to be signed. Two V-22's will be sent to ferry the officials from our fleet, and to evacuate those POWs that are fit to travel. A small guard from the Shildonian Marine Corps will accompany our officials to help provide security.
As for the war crimes, the laws that were breached were not Shildonian law, and so it is not in our jurisdiction to try those accused of war crimes. The laws breached were international laws, and so only the International Community can carry out such a trial. Initial proceedings are already underway, and it would perhaps be prudent to enable justice to take it's natural course.
Colodia
18-02-2004, 04:11
Fast forward to tomorrow's signing...

Gerald Ford enters the outside of the building where the signing would take place. He notices a helicopter bearning the Shildonian symbol on it.

Sweating, worrying, and clutching his journal, he makes his way toward the man guarding the helicopter.

"Conundrum"

"Come in fast" the guard said

Inside the chopper, Gerald noticed the Shildonian official getting his papers ready and trying to look spiffy. Gerald walks toward him to greet him.

"Sure is great that our two nations are finally doing something to establish peace between us, huh?" he greeted the official with these words, still sweating

"Umm...yes...how hot is it outside? I wouldn't want to be sweating on such an important document." The official replied with

Trembling, Gerald whispered into the mans ear, "I think that's the least of your worries"

In an instant, Gerald reached into his pocket for his Revolver and kept it visually away from the guards eye. He poked the barrel at the official.

"Why?" the official asked whispered, "why would you do such a thing? You know this could cause a huge counter-move from Shildonia."

Gerald Ford chuckled. He words were, "[i]Yes, I am a traitor to Colodia. Yes, this will probably start a huge war. Yes, I am complicating things. But up until now, everything was staged. From the blockade, to the surrender, to the POW's, to the powerplants...everything. Until now. Now, I am going to change history. I am going to change everything. My journal explains what I've done to Colodia. If you attempt to burn this journal, there's another explanation in my office and home in the capitol. Too bad you'll not hear the rest of my story and explanation though"

And with that, the gun was shot, and the official fell into a bloody mess. Following Gerald Ford, who had gained a hole in the head.
Colodia
19-02-2004, 05:55
*scratches arm*

GIMMIE A B!
GIMMIE A U!
GIMMIE AN M, P!

WHAT'S THAT SPELL?

hmm...pumb, umpb, .......bump?
Colodia
29-02-2004, 11:15
hello? anyone?

bump
29-02-2004, 11:31
Since the nation of Colodia openly harbors terrorists, your nation falls under The Queen's Anti-Terrorist Act, and a full trade embargo has been imposed by our nation upon yours as a result.
Chellis
01-03-2004, 08:41
But... it doesnt, anymore