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Inter-galactic news broadcast:
The emperor of Sadak officially declared war on Danakar today after his UN representative reported insults made against his nation. They have begun mobilizing of their military and will invade as soon as preperations are complete. Here is a live feed of Emperor Ashe's national address on this issue:

"This insult will not be tollerated! We will show that Sadak is not one to stand idly by while some diplomat insults us for our love of our born rights. I encourage any other nation to join in my task of obliterating this enemy of freedom before it's too late!"

As a result of this insult, Sadak's already high Military to population percentage has risen from 40% to 60%! From what officials tell us, this would be alot higher if more of Sadak's population was fit to be in the military. Millions of new recruits are now being trained to joing the fight in 10 years, which is the standard Sadaki Basic Training time.
Most see this as excessive, but because of this hightened training time, Sadak has one of the most well trained militaries in the universe. Also, It's not going to help matters for Danakar that Sadak is one of the owners of the BMCA Technology plans. I shudder to think of what will happen to his troops upon meeting those horrors.
uh... oh yeah... This is Jackie Summers, reporting live from Sadak, WISC News...

If he has insulted and threatened Your People, The People, then perhaps I will help. However, I will not send the Peoples Socialist Defense Force to wage war for no other reason then in Defense of the People.

Plus, you are quite young, I suggest that if you see yourself acting without a purpose, you call off this assault, or, if this war is not being waged in Defense of the People, I will personally see that you Government is cast out for being Imperialistic, setting a new government that LISTENS to its People, like all should, like all nations should SEE their People as The Government.

Sadak your only 3 days old and you have a population of 236 Mill when your population should only be 9 million or 10 million. Get in contact with a mod since you have the population bug so it can be fixed cause they will fix it whether or not you tell them about it.

Sadak your only 3 days old and you have a population of 236 Mill when your population should only be 9 million or 10 million. Get in contact with a mod since you have the population bug so it can be fixed cause they will fix it whether or not you tell them about it.
Actually, my nation is months old. I was just resurected a few days ago. I had been inactive for a bit.

If he has insulted and threatened Your People, The People, then perhaps I will help. However, I will not send the Peoples Socialist Defense Force to wage war for no other reason then in Defense of the People.

Plus, you are quite young, I suggest that if you see yourself acting without a purpose, you call off this assault, or, if this war is not being waged in Defense of the People, I will personally see that you Government is cast out for being Imperialistic, setting a new government that LISTENS to its People, like all should, like all nations should SEE their People as The Government.
I would like to point out that this insult and attempt was to take freedom from everyone within the United Nations. That includes population. Sadak is a strong supporter of freedom. We do not agree with nations who would dare challenge freedom. My people where outraged by the insult and so was I. They where also infuriated by the attempt at taking away their freedoms. We shall annialate this nation. However, you can forget your charges of imperialism. I plan to strike this nation hard and then leave. I will not attack the general population, for Sadak does not do bombing runs. Also I have no plans of occupation. I plan to simply teach this nation a quick lesson in holding their tongue when they decide to lobby against freedom.
~Ashe, Emperor of Sadak

If he has insulted and threatened Your People, The People, then perhaps I will help. However, I will not send the Peoples Socialist Defense Force to wage war for no other reason then in Defense of the People.

Plus, you are quite young, I suggest that if you see yourself acting without a purpose, you call off this assault, or, if this war is not being waged in Defense of the People, I will personally see that you Government is cast out for being Imperialistic, setting a new government that LISTENS to its People, like all should, like all nations should SEE their People as The Government.

And you cant reslove this peacebly. :?

His honor was insulted, how can it be resolved peacefully? The only way honor can be regained, is by the valor of combat. Honor is safe-guarded by blood.

All this becuse of an insult ... well the terran allince will help[ in peace keping if needed.

All this becuse of an insult ... well the terran allince will help[ in peace keping if needed.
It's more then just that. His proposal, if passed, would prevent all religious freedom whatsoever for any person in the UN. The sad thing is, he has some nations who are agreeing with him and arguing his side of it. I only pray that this doesn't turn into a world war. This is why I'm attacking. To nip this in the bud...

As a result of this insult, Sadak's already high Military to population percentage has risen from 40% to 60%!

Millions of new recruits are now being trained to joing the fight in 10 years, which is the standard Sadaki Basic Training time.

Most see this as excessive, but because of this hightened training time, Sadak has one of the most well trained militaries in the universe.

OOC:

I doth declare this a GODMOD, for thy Nation hath claim'ed a staggering 60% of thy population in thine military, raised from an equally incorrect 40% of thy population in thine military.

It doesn't take alot of thought to realise that 40% of your population in your military alone would be un-supportable, firstly you have to make enough money to fund your 10 year training program... because anything more then 5% (this is disputed to be lower, but everyone uses it) will seriously damage your economy.

40% would have bankrupted your nation a long time ago and thus your huge army would have no money to pay your stupid amount of troops... who would then either quit, or decent against your government, probably the latter as they wouldn't be able to get food or shelter because "look mom, no ECONOMY".

Simple math: For a large military, you need a good economy to pay your men, for a good economy you need less then 5% of your population in your military. If you have more then 5% of your population in your military for a long time your economy could no longer support your military who would have to become small again.

Damn... don't we hate real life kids?


Now for 10 years of training... do you allow training soldiers to fight? If not your army would be smaller because most of them will be training. If you do then your army will be like everyone elses in the world because everyone trains while they are in the military...

So your soilders would not be the best in the world. You will have some elite forces like everyone else, for a better soldier you have to spend more money... like everyone else.

So you can either Edit your post, or be ignored by the person you declare war on... which is no fun.

As a result of this insult, Sadak's already high Military to population percentage has risen from 40% to 60%!

Millions of new recruits are now being trained to joing the fight in 10 years, which is the standard Sadaki Basic Training time.

Most see this as excessive, but because of this hightened training time, Sadak has one of the most well trained militaries in the universe.

OOC:

I doth declare this a GODMOD, for thy Nation hath claim'ed a staggering 60% of thy population in thine military, raised from an equally incorrect 40% of thy population in thine military.

It doesn't take alot of thought to realise that 40% of your population in your military alone would be un-supportable, firstly you have to make enough money to fund your 10 year training program... because anything more then 5% (this is disputed to be lower, but everyone uses it) will seriously damage your economy.

40% would have bankrupted your nation a long time ago and thus your huge army would have no money to pay your stupid amount of troops... who would then either quit, or decent against your government, probably the latter as they wouldn't be able to get food or shelter because "look mom, no ECONOMY".

Simple math: For a large military, you need a good economy to pay your men, for a good economy you need less then 5% of your population in your military. If you have more then 5% of your population in your military for a long time your economy could no longer support your military who would have to become small again.

Damn... don't we hate real life kids?


Now for 10 years of training... do you allow training soldiers to fight? If not your army would be smaller because most of them will be training. If you do then your army will be like everyone elses in the world because everyone trains while they are in the military...

So your soilders would not be the best in the world. You will have some elite forces like everyone else, for a better soldier you have to spend more money... like everyone else.

So you can either Edit your post, or be ignored by the person you declare war on... which is no fun.
Sorry, no Godmod. You see, Military service is a volutary thing on our country. The ten year training program is very much supportable. It's 1000 credits, paid by the civilian. The person trains at the Leo Towa Temple. As for weapons, the civilian also pays for the weapons. The only thing the government pays for in it's military is Special equipment, like the BMCAs for specialist units. Thats why we can have such a large army. They pay, and they have other jobs. You must think, during America's war for independence, every man was part of the war, volutarily. Sadak's people trust their emperor because he's brought them through very dificult times. I understand your mathematics, but that can't work in this scenario. Ask before declaring a Godmod.

Sorry, no Godmod. You see, Military service is a volutary thing on our country. The ten year training program is very much supportable. It's 1000 credits, paid by the civilian. The person trains at the Leo Towa Temple. As for weapons, the civilian also pays for the weapons. The only thing the government pays for in it's military is Special equipment, like the BMCAs for specialist units. Thats why we can have such a large army. They pay, and they have other jobs. You must think, during America's war for independence, every man was part of the war, volutarily. Sadak's people trust their emperor because he's brought them through very dificult times. I understand your mathematics, but that can't work in this scenario. Ask before declaring a Godmod.

OOC: You are really detached from reality. People who need to pay money to join the military would only do that if they were opressed by their leader, which was the case in your USA reference. 60% of the population going to war is physically impossible, as is 40% in peace time. You may have a passive militia, but they never leave the borders and do not count toward an invasion force.

IC: The recent military buildup by Sadak is causing incidental damage to the cavern cities below the continent. We request that you cease your military development at once our face retribution the likes of which can match a force of nature.

The Republic of Tir Dannan, offers no help, and also withdraws the landing rights of Sadak military planes and ships until Sadak makes an effort to resolve this peacefully. Tir Dannan recognises that while the people of Sadak may have been insulted and may rightly claim an apology or other recompense, war is not a correct or moral answer. In the event of a Danakarese proposal to suppress religion being successful Tir Dannan will support a war, if all options have been exhausted.

The emperor sees this war as a pathectic excuse, we beleive that your troops are just bored....

The CorpSac CEO looks at the reports,
"fools goin to war over an insult this is stupid send a message to them right away if they do not stand down CorpSac will be forced to invade and remove the dumb p**** in charge" the CEO oridered
"yes sir" a private replyed

[code:1:b40d85cfe6]
TO: Sadack Emperor
From: CorpSac corproation CEO
stop your milltary build up or corpsac will be force to stop you this war is pointless why make the sand run rad with blood[/code:1:b40d85cfe6]

OOC: what tech r u?

Sorry, no Godmod. You see, Military service is a volutary thing on our country. The ten year training program is very much supportable. It's 1000 credits, paid by the civilian. The person trains at the Leo Towa Temple. As for weapons, the civilian also pays for the weapons. The only thing the government pays for in it's military is Special equipment, like the BMCAs for specialist units. Thats why we can have such a large army. They pay, and they have other jobs. You must think, during America's war for independence, every man was part of the war, volutarily. Sadak's people trust their emperor because he's brought them through very dificult times. I understand your mathematics, but that can't work in this scenario. Ask before declaring a Godmod.


Truelly... you don't understand the simple problem you are dealing with here.

You could have most of your people in the "military" if they lived their lives normally, and then trained once a month, or even once a week at a push... they would be crap soldiers, but they could be counted in your military. The above is what you could call "National Guard" or "Conscipts"... eitherway, they can't be very good and they wouldn't be anyway near as good as a soldier.


However, you can't have more then 5% in your permenant military... you know, the real soldiers who train all the time and don't have another job... these guys are trained all the time and as such they are pretty good... everyone has them and they cost alot... about $100'000 each for a reasonable soldier with good equipment. I will ignore you if you claim to have more then 5% of your population as full time soldiers because it doesn't work. You need people to be working in real jobs (that pay tax, earn a wage and do work in companies that help the economy so you can pay for your real soldiers).


Now in war, you can't field too many of your troops because of the logistic expenses of keeping a soldier equipped, fed and with ammo. Too many people fighting at once and you would be unable to support them... trust me on this, any decent RPer will ignore your claims if you use stupidly high military percentages...


I have compulsory military, it's made up of people who spend 2 years as real soldiers, they don't have other jobs in those 2 years, they are pure military material. After that some stay on for career, others get a real job. My military works out at 1.5% of my population. Anymore would damage thier budget because of the cost. Their budget is really high as it is, but military costs money... 1.5% of my population being real soldier costs money.


Your people could pay to be "National Guard" or "Conscripts" though I doubt they'd like to pay for it... they would be crappy soldiers, but they can afford it. To be a real soldier... they can't afford that... thats costs tons and they wouldn't have real jobs...


You don't understand the mathematics at all... read the stickies, some of them cover percentages of military and you need to read them... hell, if this continues I'll link the thread myself, because you don't have a clue. Military costs alot of money, for that money to exist, people need to work...

Currently your military seems to be made up of people who only play at being soldiers during the weekend... chances are that in a real war they will die quickely, because real soldiers are trained a whole lot better.

Your army can't have more then 5% of it's population (if that, few people use 5% because it's too costly) as REAL SOLDIERS because real soldiers train all the time and cost too much, without benefiting to the economy at all.

To sum it up... your military is one of the two things:

a. Most of your military are National Guard like, and really arn't some of the best inthe world.

b. Your percentages for real soldiers are completely wrong...


I can shout godmod without permission thanks, but if you go to war claiming stupid figures, I will ignore you and suggest to your enemy that he ignores you too, because it would be unfair to fight someone who is claiming impossible figures...

THE TIME IS NIGH!!!!!

WE WILL FIGHT!!!!!!!!! COME GET SOME!!!

"We shall go on to the end, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Atheist Friends beyond the seas, armed and guarded by Reason, would carry on the struggle, until, in good time, the New Enlightened World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of Reason itself." -Danakar Churchill.

"We will never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." -Danakar Churchill