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Bombs, Guns and Tanks

Intelligent Neighbors
22-01-2004, 19:32
Bombs, Guns and Tanks

This is the storefront of Intelligent Neighbors. The IG18 tank was developed jointly with Gesselshaft. The bombs were developed with Cornixpes. There will be more stuff added.

There are no pictures because I only have 56K so it would be too slow.

Please do your own math here, I do not have the time to spare adding up the totals.


Bombs


Phosphorous Tank Buster Bomb - $10,000

A standard tank buster bomb with phosphorous powder packed into the front. The bomb penetrates the armour and then the head explodes, blasting the phosphourus powder around the inside of the tank. Phosphorous powder burns for a long time and so will eliminate the crew and damage the internal workings of the tank.

Napalm Bomb - $10,000

Napalm is made from a mixture of 25% gasoline, 25% benzene, and 50% aluminum or polystyrene soap as a thickener. It is a flammable mixture that flies across a large area when the bomb hits, then the fuel is ignited and there is a extremely large fire now raging there. Extremely effective against troops, but also good against tanks and buildings.

Napalm/Caesium Bomb - $20,000

This is like a Napalm Bomb except that there are lumps of caesium in with the napalm, when the napalm ignites, the caesium doesn't because the layer of caesium oxide on the surface of the lumps prevents the caesium from igniting. If someone tries to then put out the Napalm with water, the caesium reacts violently and this can cause severe burns.

Caesium Anti-ship Bomb - $60,000

This bomb has high amounts of Caesium in it and is designed to be dropped in the water near the ship. The Caesium reacts very violently with water and will punch a hole in the ship or create a huge wave that will swamp smaller ships or wash over larger ships.

Hydrogen anti tank missile - $30,000

This bomb uses the gas hydrogen to create an explosion.
The tip of the bomb pierces the tank and fires a needle like object back into the bomb. This creates a spark which ignites the hydrogen. The blast is funneled through the tip and so goes int the tank.

Thermite mine - $15,000

The thermite mine is activated by remote pressure and creates a chain reaction within the components. The pressure starts the blow torch inside which ignites magnesium. This heat creates the thermite which can burn through almost anything. It then finally ignites the petrol which explodes the mine catapulting thermite everywhere.

Sodium Chloride bomb - $10,000

This is a small bomb that can be dropped from a plane. Inside it has two sections divided by a sheet of glass. On one side is sodium and on the other is the flammable gas, chlorine. On impact the glass breaks and the sodium mixes with the gas and it explodes. The result also involves many shards of glass flying hundreds of feet around the area.


Guns and other infantry weapons


Stick grenades - $200 for crate of 10

Grenade on a stick. Used by german forces in WWII

Hand grenade - $250 for crate of 10

Standard modern grenade, used by modern forces

AK47 - $200

This is a very reliable gun, it will not break very easily. It is cheap and is commonly used with terrorist groups. It was designed in Soviet Russia by Kalashnikov.

AK74 - $300

This is the upgraded version of the AK47 and is equipped with a smaller calibre bullet. It is still very reliable. This gun comes with a bayonet.

AK101 - $350

A slightly upgraded AK74, it uses the standard NATO round. This comes with a bayonet and a sight.

AK105 - $400

A shorter AK101, still comes with bayonet and sight.

M16A2 - $300

Assualt rifle used by the US forces. Accurate.


Tanks

IG18

The Federation of Intelligent Neighbors in collaboration with Gesellschaft has developed a tank to use in their armies. It combines superiority with cost effectiveness. That is to say it is a tank that is good enough to use as the main force of an army, and it’s cheap enough to use in large quantities.

This tank is based upon the Chinese Type 98 tank. It does however use superior armour and weaponry.

Armour

The armour of this tank incorporates titanium encased depleted uranium armour. Armour and bulkheads separate the crew compartment from the fuel tanks. The armour is mainly based on the Chobham design and features layers of ceramic composites. For an extra cost, the top panels of the tank can be designed to blow outwards in the event of penetration by a HEAT projectile.

Armament

This tank is fitted with a 125mm smooth bore gun fed by a carousel autoloader. This gun can fire conventional shells (HEAT), depleted uranium shells and anti-tank missiles.

The commander has a 12.7 millimetre calibre Browning M2 machinegun with a 3x magnification sight. It can rotate 360 degrees and can change its elevation from –10 to +65 degrees.

The loader has a coaxial 7.62 millimetre machinegun.

Engine

The engine for this tank is a 1,200 hp al liquid cooled diesel engine and its very economic due to the relatively light weight of the tank in comparison to other modern tanks (it only weighs 50 tons)

The maximum speed is 55mph (on road) which is quite fast.

Self defence

These options will cost extra money.
There is a laser-warning receiver (LWR) behind the commander’s hatch and a high-powered laser weapon behind the gunner’s hatch. There are also smoke grenade launchers on the side.

Testing information

We decided to test this product by firing at, and taking fire from different tanks. We decided to test it against M1A2 Abrams and T-72 tanks.

Against the Abrams, the IG18 could penetrate the rear and, to an extent, the side armour using depleted uranium shells. It could not penetrate the front. The Abrams however could penetrate the front armour of the IG18 using conventional shells, but only about 50% of the time.

Against the T-72, the IG18 was far superior, it could take out the T-72’s from any side with ease, but the T-72 could only take out the IG18 from the rear on a very limited number of occasions.

We learnt from this that while the IG18 is not as advanced as the Abrams, it could still compete fairly well against them.

Stats

Weight: 50 tons
Crew: 3
Length, hull: 11 m
Width: 3.4 m
Height, top of turret: 2 m


Cost $2 million

Laser defences: +0.4 million
Grenade Launchers: +0.1 million
Blow-out armour: + 0.5 million
Holy panooly
22-01-2004, 20:22
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.
Holy panooly
22-01-2004, 20:22
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.
22-01-2004, 21:04
Although I do think that IN may have been better off waiting a little while before selling and developing these, I can assure you these are his own ideas. I've sat and watched him develop them and he's put in a lot of budget and time towards creating them. I know, Holy Panooly, that you are a well know chemical and biological weapon dealer - and I like that, I buy from you - however it doesn't state anywhere that you OWN napalm bombs etc. Puls I've never seen Caesium used before.

May I add, IN, that caesium whouldn't create a wave big enough to swamp ships but I would make navigating a whole lot harder. Also, that much caesium whould release a hell of a lot of hydrogen that would ignite easily. On a further note, where would you get all of that caesium from, it's not a common substance?

Apart from that, good ideas, I especially like the idea of phosphorous powder... mmmmmm...
22-01-2004, 21:04
Oh yeah and PLEASE raise your prices!

I'll arrange a deal with you soon. I have stuff you need.
Huzen Hagen
22-01-2004, 21:10
Napalm Bomb - $5,000

Napalm is made from a mixture of 25% gasoline, 25% benzene, and 50% aluminum or polystyrene soap as a thickener. It is a flammable mixture that flies across a large area when the bomb hits, then the fuel is ignited and there is a extremely large fire now raging there. Extremely effective against troops, but also good against tanks and buildings.

Actually Polystyrene was used in Napalm to prevent it being scraped off and phosphurus was added to make it burn with incredible ferocity
22-01-2004, 21:15
Napalm Bomb - $5,000

Napalm is made from a mixture of 25% gasoline, 25% benzene, and 50% aluminum or polystyrene soap as a thickener. It is a flammable mixture that flies across a large area when the bomb hits, then the fuel is ignited and there is a extremely large fire now raging there. Extremely effective against troops, but also good against tanks and buildings.

Actually Polystyrene was used in Napalm to prevent it being scraped off and phosphurus was added to make it burn with incredible ferocity

If it was thicker then effectively it would be harder to scrape off. And phosphorus was not always added to napalm.
Huzen Hagen
22-01-2004, 21:26
Napalm Bomb - $5,000

Napalm is made from a mixture of 25% gasoline, 25% benzene, and 50% aluminum or polystyrene soap as a thickener. It is a flammable mixture that flies across a large area when the bomb hits, then the fuel is ignited and there is a extremely large fire now raging there. Extremely effective against troops, but also good against tanks and buildings.

Actually Polystyrene was used in Napalm to prevent it being scraped off and phosphurus was added to make it burn with incredible ferocity

actually polystyrene acted like glue otherwise it would have been just as easy to scrape off. It is true phosphurus was added later on in vietnam when they realised it could be put out if you jumped under-water

If it was thicker then effectively it would be harder to scrape off. And phosphorus was not always added to napalm.
Crossman
22-01-2004, 21:46
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.

oh, a little competition never hurt anyboby.

Anyways, I will purchase 25,000 napalm bombs ($125,000,000)and 10,000 Napalm/Caesium bombs ($100,000,000)

total = $225,000,000

money wired upon confirmation

Lord Tarkin, Secretary of Defense
Crossman
22-01-2004, 21:47
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.

oh, a little competition never hurt anyboby.

Anyways, I will purchase 25,000 napalm bombs ($125,000,000)and 10,000 Napalm/Caesium bombs ($100,000,000)

total = $225,000,000

money wired upon confirmation

Lord Tarkin, Secretary of Defense
Crossman
22-01-2004, 21:48
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.

oh, a little competition never hurt anyboby.

Anyways, I will purchase 25,000 napalm bombs ($125,000,000)and 10,000 Napalm/Caesium bombs ($100,000,000)

total = $225,000,000

money wired upon confirmation

Lord Tarkin, Secretary of Defense
Intelligent Neighbors
23-01-2004, 21:33
Stealing other people's ideas is very stupid.

oh, a little competition never hurt anyboby.

Anyways, I will purchase 25,000 napalm bombs ($125,000,000)and 10,000 Napalm/Caesium bombs ($100,000,000)

total = $225,000,000

money wired upon confirmation

Lord Tarkin, Secretary of Defense

Confirmed, thanks for purchasing from us, you are welcome to buy again!
Super American VX Man
23-01-2004, 21:47
Although I do think that IN may have been better off waiting a little while before selling and developing these, I can assure you these are his own ideas. I've sat and watched him develop them and he's put in a lot of budget and time towards creating them. I know, Holy Panooly, that you are a well know chemical and biological weapon dealer - and I like that, I buy from you - however it doesn't state anywhere that you OWN napalm bombs etc. Puls I've never seen Caesium used before.

May I add, IN, that caesium whouldn't create a wave big enough to swamp ships but I would make navigating a whole lot harder. Also, that much caesium whould release a hell of a lot of hydrogen that would ignite easily. On a further note, where would you get all of that caesium from, it's not a common substance?

Apart from that, good ideas, I especially like the idea of phosphorous powder... mmmmmm...

There are a couple of reasons that Cesium isn't widly used. Primarily, it's a lot easier to get far more powerful blasts from other, more easily manufactured substances (TNT or C4, for instance). A lesser reason is that it makes the water extremely alkilic (until it can diffuse enough), and thusly highly toxic, which is a price usually not worth the lack of explosive power.
23-01-2004, 21:59
Caesium is an element that fits his specifications. He wanted a substance that would react violently with water, and because Francium is so unstable and can react with air he chose caesium. His reasons are his own, however I believe that watching the water voilently spit and hiss would be very intimidating, and the release of hydrogen would be a huge plus and could cause immense damage. Caesium is an original idea which doesn't involve setting C4 or manufacturing bombs with complex compounds within. Caesium, or francium (possibly Rubidium) used in enough quantity are almost natural bombs. No hassle.
Tiborita
23-01-2004, 22:09
Greetings Intelligent Neighbors.

The Republic of Tiborita wishes to purchase 100,000 Napalm Bombs. We will wire 1,000,000,000 when the order is confirmed.
23-01-2004, 22:25
Phosphorous Tank Buster Bomb - $10,000 quantity - 100,000

Napalm Bomb - $10,000 quantity - 100,000

cost is i think $2,000,000,000.


I would also like to purchase the self development papers to both of these bombs. How much would these cost?

money to be *wired upon confirmation.
Iuthia
23-01-2004, 22:29
Fair enough, I may add that while Holy Panooly beleives that weapons like this were first sold by him, many other nations have been selling phosphurus and napalm before him... trust me on this, it's not an original idea...

We don't mind something being done again, we only mind when someone claims that it's their idea and that it's wrong to steal it...


Anyways, it's nice to be able to buy these weapons without having to condemn them for selling WMD. Not that I'm interested just now.
Holy panooly
23-01-2004, 22:35
It may be not original, but my stuff is cheaper
North East Antarctica
23-01-2004, 22:52
Hello,
I would like to purchase 1,000 Napalm/Caesium Bombs...5,000 Caesium Anti-ship Bombs....10,000 Phosphorous Tank Buster Bomb...and 10,000 Napalm Bombs. This comes out to 600,000,000(correct me if my calculations are incorrect). Money will be wired upon order confirmation.
23-01-2004, 22:57
I would like to order 50000 Napalm/Caesium Bomb = 100,000,000 to be paid on confirmation
Anasia
24-01-2004, 00:49
100,000 Phosphorous Tank Buster Bombs 1,000,000,000
100,000 Napalm/Caesium Bombs 2,000,000,000
100,000 Caesium Anti-ship Bombs 6,000,000,000

9,000,000,000 wired when confirmed.
Intelligent Neighbors
24-01-2004, 02:44
Everyone is confirmed... please expect delivery in two RL days.

Nazifox, I cannot sell the production rights to the straightforeward napalm bomb as I did not invent these, anyone can make them (provided they know how).
As for the tank buster bomb phosphorous thing, it is not for sale. Sorry, i spend a lot of time and effort in researching these, as cornixpes said.

Thanks everyone for buying, please come again.
There will be a discount if orders are placed from now on over $10bill, about 10%...

PS listen to cornixpes about these weapons, he is correct about my reasons for using caesium.
Anasia
24-01-2004, 05:40
*monay wired*
24-01-2004, 05:45
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Tiborita
24-01-2004, 05:59
Money wired.

Thank you,
Herman
Minister of Defense
Intelligent Neighbors
24-01-2004, 17:14
Caesium cannot be placed in a bomb. The best you could manage to do would be potassium, which we are already using avidly. Caesium would react with the metal the bomb was made of. Just a thought.

No, because it has a layer of caesium oxide on the surface, and also it is stored in with the napalm oils.

*BUMP*
24-01-2004, 17:18
I will purchase 25,000 napalm bombs ($125,000,000)and 10,000 Napalm/Caesium bombs ($100,000,000)

total = $225,000,000
yours
Borris Freikopf
Defence Mintser
The Republic of Bluelemongrass :twisted:
24-01-2004, 17:22
I would like to order

5,000 x Caesium bombs

5,000 x Napalm bombs

5,000 x Phosphorus bombs

Money wired.
24-01-2004, 21:42
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Intelligent Neighbors
25-01-2004, 13:02
Caesium cannot be placed in a bomb. The best you could manage to do would be potassium, which we are already using avidly. Caesium would react with the metal the bomb was made of. Just a thought.

No, because it has a layer of caesium oxide on the surface, and also it is stored in with the napalm oils.

*BUMP*Okay, would you mind showing me how that would work? Any sites or anything, or did you ocme with that off the top of your head? Seriously, unless you can prove me wrong, which is probable, the caesium oxide would do nothing really. All that is is caesium combined with oxygen. And the napalm oils wouldn't do much, in fact they would be a hazard. The caesium would react with the metals, and then cause a massive explosion, also consisting with the napalm. I wasn't speaking on those, anyway, just the caesium bombs. Again, potassium is the only real element in that periodic group that can be used in bomb form.

Well look here:
http://www.wpbschoolhouse.btinternet.co.uk/page03/Reactivity.htm

If you look a little way down the page you will see that when caesium burns it becomes an oxide, caesium oxide. As exposure to air causes the caesium to do this already, it cannot burn as it already is in an oxide state. This also explains how it wouldn't react with the metal, and the napalm oil. Also, if you look on the web, caesium 137 the potential to be used in dirty bombs.

Bluelemongrass: order confirmed.
The blue order, how much money did you send?

Please work out how much, thanks,
FIN
Intelligent Neighbors
25-01-2004, 17:15
*BUMP*
25-01-2004, 17:34
Phosphorous Tank Buster Bomb 100,000
Napalm Bomb 100,000
Money wired on confiriming
Intelligent Neighbors
25-01-2004, 22:26
Pekudo: confirmed

*BUMP*
Intelligent Neighbors
25-01-2004, 23:14
*bump*
Intelligent Neighbors
26-01-2004, 15:07
*BUMP*

come on people, you know you want to buy these... also, there will be more bombs soon...
28-01-2004, 06:47
Allies of mine have uncovered the Napalm bomb and my scientists have chemically broken down the tank buster bomb into seperate elements and compounds to determine the formula for the bomb. Also chemical tests have been done to the shell of the bomb, to determine the metals used. I have developed a similar bomb to yours for my own personal use. So as the soup nazi would say. No soup for you!
Intelligent Neighbors
29-01-2004, 18:06
Um, the tank buster bomb was MY idea, you can't just steal it. :evil:
29-01-2004, 18:08
You can't steal his ideas unless you have authorization. Give them back or I'll place sanctions on you.
Sketch
29-01-2004, 18:17
Sketch
29-01-2004, 18:22
[quote="CornixPes"]Although I do think that IN may have been better off waiting a little while before selling and developing these, I can assure you these are his own ideas. I've sat and watched him develop them and he's put in a lot of budget and time towards creating them.[quote]

Not trying to bash anyone too hard, but I can hardly consider two weeks as a longtime "thinking" about something. Especially considering the descriptions he gave for his products. Also, these "new" weapons are not original ideas to begin with. First, they are RL based, which automatically makes them fair game for everyone else to use; and secondly, there have been plenty of people (like all the future tech nations, they had to start out as modern in the beginning) who have already "developed" said weapons. But, whatever, there isn't anyone who can properly run a storefront anyways.
30-01-2004, 05:49
Meh' Your Ideas are not original. Welcome to the Real world.
30-01-2004, 06:02
100,000 - Phosphorus Tank Buster Bomb @ $10,000 each, totalling - 1,000,000,000


100,000 - Napalm Bombs @ $10,000 each, totalling - 1,000,000,000


Grand Total: $2,000,000,000

*MOney wired on Confirmation
30-01-2004, 07:22
Why not thermite instead of Phosphorous bombs?
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:30
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:42
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:43
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:43
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:44
Intelligent Neighbors
30-01-2004, 17:45
Sketch: Napalm is RL but the rest aren't. Prove what you say.

NaziFox: You are a thief and a liar. Please do not taint this store with your slimy, mucky, smell any more. You are IGNORED unless you start to use the weapons in a war against me and my allies or try to sell them,

Exonerate: Because as the Phosphorous is in powder form, it will spray around the tank. Also, I did not research thermite, although my future buisiness partner Cornixpes is at the moment.

Everyone else: Confirmed, and a 20% off sale for all the orders for a RL week!
30-01-2004, 17:56
OOC: C'mon, a high schooler could work out how to make thermite... :wink:
31-01-2004, 03:17
You are pitiful. I don't care Bob. Again I say your ideas are not original. How do you think countries produce their weapons? Well they don't start from scratch; they modify them and change them. As for your weak and horrid insults, meh'. Go ahead talk smack, whatever makes you feel good. If you sell weapons, then people will learn how to make them. It's the circle of life. I asked you nicely for some production papers which I would gladly have paid for but instead you insulted me with some meaningless garbage. Go ahead try some more insults because everybody knows you will after I'm done writing this. Don't lose your cool so easy! It'll make you a better leader. I don't need to insult you because I'm more of man that will face the reality of it. Please point out to me where I lied, I actually don't recall lying but it may be my mistake. I'm no thief, there were problems with the bombs and they need to be repaired. Kind of hard to repair something you know nothing about, don't you think? Relax, I ain't going to sell the bombs and make money off them, like you.
31-01-2004, 03:27
100,000 Phosphorous Tank Buster Bombs 1,000,000,000
100,000 Napalm/Caesium Bombs 2,000,000,000
100,000 Caesium Anti-ship Bombs 6,000,000,000

9,000,000,000 wired when confirmed.
Intelligent Neighbors
01-02-2004, 21:40
confirmed,

sent 1.8bill back because of sale.

Thanks,

FIN
Intelligent Neighbors
03-02-2004, 12:04
Bump
03-02-2004, 12:06
Hydrogen, Thermite and Sodium Chloride bombs are ready when you are IN.
Intelligent Neighbors
03-02-2004, 18:18
bump for major updates
04-02-2004, 11:08
Il buy 10000 ak47's for 2000000*wired* :roll:
Intelligent Neighbors
04-02-2004, 15:07
Denied.

Before you try to purchase any items, learn how to do so first.

1. We do not sell M4's
2. You need to state how much money this will cost and wire it to me (type *wired*)
3. You need to learn how to use apostrophe's

Also, I did not like your flooding of my TG box. So go away.
04-02-2004, 16:48
I didn't ask for m4's :lol:
and i'm sorry for annoing you before :tantrum: and dont go to war with me yet :cry:

P.s I found out through my sister
Intelligent Neighbors
09-02-2004, 17:33
OK, I'll send them to you...
Invincible Winfields
09-02-2004, 18:42
Please could we purchase,

500,000 M16's = $150,000,000
*wired*

Thanks,
Invincible Winfields
Gesellschaft
09-02-2004, 18:51
Please could we purchase,

1,000,000 M16's = $300,000,000
*wired*

Thanks,
Gesellschaft
Intelligent Neighbors
09-02-2004, 20:33
Sure, confirmed.
Flying Horsemen
18-02-2004, 17:52
Please could we purchase,

500,000 M16's
total = $150,000,000
*wired*

thanks,
Flying Horsemen
Gesellschaft
18-02-2004, 17:59
Please could we order,

1,000,000 M16's
$300,000,000

*wired*

Thanks
Gesellschaft
Invincible Winfields
18-02-2004, 18:05
Please could we purchase,

1,000,000 M16's
$300,000,000

*wired*

Thanks
Invincible winfields
Intelligent Neighbors
21-02-2004, 16:09
Confirmed,

BUMP, someone must want some of this stuff!
Intelligent Neighbors
23-02-2004, 20:13
BUMP (again)
25-02-2004, 11:21
I'll buy 5000 ak 101's for $1750000 Please

Thank you
AK_101
25-02-2004, 14:02
I Am interested in buying production rights for the tank and the napolm bomb. I am will 2 give u $75 million US dollars. telegram me with a respones.
Intelligent Neighbors
25-02-2004, 14:39
Confirmed,

Wamo, I will sell you the production rights to these (I assume you mean the standard bomb) and will provide blueprints for creating a factory.

Thanks