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Kazakhstania has recently felt the urge for soemthign to arm it's special forces with. Therefore, we have taken a weapon and upgraded it, to suit our ends. We are happy to now announce the completion of our project in a record week after being asked to complete a project. We are happy with our project, and release it to you now. We hoep you liek it.

AKS-74UM Assault Rifle

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http://venus.walagata.com/w/woodhall/AKS-74UM.JPG

We designed this assault rifle to be as the same guidelines as the AKS-74U. It comes in two versions, the silenced version and the non silenced version. Each have been upgraded and modified inside, to fire the 5.56mm NATO round. It has the same internal firing mechanism as the AK-74, and is very reliable.

It has a fairly short barrel fashioned out of titanium alloys, and can take firing for a long length of time. It has internal dampeners arund the barrel, to counter the affects of barrel rattling. The barrel is firmly lodged among the main body, and is non detachable.

The stock is folding, and made of titanium reinforced fiberglass. It is on a steel pivot, and has proven to be easily foldable. The whole weapon has stood up well to tests, is almsot as reliable as the original AK-74. It has stood up well to damage, and is capable of bombat drops, without getting in the way. It has even been implemented in various Tank Corps in the Kazakshtanian army.

The difference between the versions is the intergrel silencer built in on the silenced version. It reduces flashes and sound drastically, whiel adding a mere few centimeters to the length. There, like in the MP5, is no need for subsonic ammo, so stopping power is not sacrificed. It remains the same as any assault rifle.

The add ons to the weapon include the verious attach points on the weapon. Under the barrel hangs a Laser Targeter. It can be easily removed and is fairly robust and can be knocked around. A 4x scope sits on the top of the sight. There is no iron sight, as its need has been taken by the Laser. It is a varable scope, and can be disattached easily.

That ends our guided weapon tour. Now, stats:

Caliber: 5.56x45 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Overall length: 735 mm (490 mm with folded buttstock)
Barrel length: 210 mm - 215 Silenced
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds standard
Weight empty: 2.51 kg
Effective range: About 220 meters
Rate of fire: 750 rounds per minute

Cost: Regular: $600
Silenced: $650

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A few points.

One: AKS-74U is an SMG, not an assault rifle :roll:
Two: It sucks. 220 meters is a haorrible range.
Three: In case someone is out of their mind and interested in buying them, free prod rights to the OCS-14 Groza and AKS-102 are being given out, both of which 0wn this embarassment to kalashnikov firearms. OCS-14 and AKS-102 are basically the OC-14 and AK-102 modified for use by paratroopers and spec ops [i.e carbines]. Theyre ranges are better, theyre newer, and prod rights are free of charge.

AK-102:
http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as06-e.htm

OC-14:
http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as09-e.htm

OOC:

DT: the SMG/carbine is a debatable point as it is small but uses a rifle round, personally i would class it as a micro rifle such as the HK53, G36C, micro galil and the inumerable shorty m16 versions.

persoanlly i fail to see the point of converting the AKS-74U to 5.56mm when the HK53 and G36C already exist particularly as western attempts at improving the older AKs haven't been brilliant.

And that is a sly point on the free prod rights but then again i made the entire weapon and machining setup isntructions for the AK47 and the M16A2 available for free.

IC:

Due to a clamouring demand from certain sectors of the Crookfur special forces and paramilitary support services for new toys the Kingdom of Crookfur wishes to palce an order for 10,000units.

Order Confirmed.

MODALERT.

DT, spamming.

OOC:
Modalert doesnt work anymore, genius :roll:

BTW converting somehting to 5.56mm and adding 20 meters to the range makes it worse, not better, as it has less stopping power and only a tad more range.

We would by 10,000 but the projected casualties for carrying these would be to high (10,000)

We will however by 100 for historical reinactments and collections.

OOC:

As far as I know, the transition between 5.45 and 5.56 doesnt make a difference, in fact adds stopping power :D

Too bad you picked an out of date weapon, you should have checked out our LAR-25 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117489). Only problem is its twice as expensive.

Meh, its got its advantages.

I kinda made it better with the dot sight and scope.

Meh, its got its advantages.

I kinda made it better with the dot sight and scope.

red dot sight's only good when the bullet goes where the dot's aiming, the AK isnt an accurate weapin anyway and hwen you reduce the barrel length like that, the accuracy drops off even more.

I'll take 40 AKS-74UM silenced.

26000 on delivery. All weapons shall be used to defend it, for now ^_^

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I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. THE AKS-74U IS A 7.62MM WEAPON NOT A 5.45MM WEAPON. :lol: :roll:

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DT: then why does every source in existance mention the fact that it was designed for the new 5.45mm round... (including Janes and Van shilin...)

It would have been even worse with 7.62mm.

However IRL there are actually versions in existance in 7.62x39mm, 5.45x39mm and 5.56x45mm

OOC:
I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. THE AKS-74U IS A 7.62MM WEAPON NOT A 5.45MM WEAPON. :lol: :roll:

AK-47: 7.62mm, AK-74: 5.54mm

OOC:
I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. THE AKS-74U IS A 7.62MM WEAPON NOT A 5.45MM WEAPON. :lol: :roll:

AK-47: 7.62mm, AK-74: 5.54mm

OOC:
Oh wait, the original source (SP:MBT, a downloadable military simulaitons game) was wrong. Lovely, now Im in a rtaher deep hole...

OOC:
Oh wait, the original source (SP:MBT, a downloadable military simulaitons game) was wrong. Lovely, now Im in a rtaher deep hole...

Greetings from the Kingdom of the Dawn Hierarchy!

We wish to place an order for:

50,000 AKS-74 AUM assault rifles @ 600 USD each, total 30 million

500 AKS-74 assault rifles ( silenced ) @ 650 USD each, total 300K


Payment via AutoPay when order confirmed

respectfully,

King Aeriel

Greetings from the Kingdom of the Dawn Hierarchy!

We wish to place an order for:

50,000 AKS-74 AUM assault rifles @ 600 USD each, total 30 million

500 AKS-74 assault rifles ( silenced ) @ 650 USD each, total 300K


Payment via AutoPay when order confirmed

respectfully,

King Aeriel

Orders Confiremd, enjoy.

Well, I was close :)

can i have 136,923,076 AKS-74UM Assault Rifle silenced plz.

Money auto wired.

same as the above

No and no.

We take 10 000 pieces of the silenced one. Can the optical sight be token off, as it's not very useful when the range is as small as that...

Can we modify the rifle to give it a higher range?

We take 10 000 pieces of the silenced one. Can the optical sight be token off, as it's not very useful when the range is as small as that...

Can we modify the rifle to give it a higher range?

yes you can give it a longer, decent size barrel (oh wait thats just a regular AK-74!)

I have a much better, but much more expensive weapon, which I wont advertise here, because thats rude as hell.

Kazakhstania has recently felt the urge for soemthign to arm it's special forces with. Therefore, we have taken a weapon and upgraded it, to suit our ends. We are happy to now announce the completion of our project in a record week after being asked to complete a project. We are happy with our project, and release it to you now. We hoep you liek it.

AKS-74UM Assault Rifle

http://venus.walagata.com/w/woodhall/AKS-74U.JPG

http://venus.walagata.com/w/woodhall/AKS-74UM.JPG

We designed this assault rifle to be as the same guidelines as the AKS-74U. It comes in two versions, the silenced version and the non silenced version. Each have been upgraded and modified inside, to fire the 5.56mm NATO round. It has the same internal firing mechanism as the AK-74, and is very reliable.

It has a fairly short barrel fashioned out of titanium alloys, and can take firing for a long length of time. It has internal dampeners arund the barrel, to counter the affects of barrel rattling. The barrel is firmly lodged among the main body, and is non detachable.

The stock is folding, and made of titanium reinforced fiberglass. It is on a steel pivot, and has proven to be easily foldable. The whole weapon has stood up well to tests, is almsot as reliable as the original AK-74. It has stood up well to damage, and is capable of bombat drops, without getting in the way. It has even been implemented in various Tank Corps in the Kazakshtanian army.

The difference between the versions is the intergrel silencer built in on the silenced version. It reduces flashes and sound drastically, whiel adding a mere few centimeters to the length. There, like in the MP5, is no need for subsonic ammo, so stopping power is not sacrificed. It remains the same as any assault rifle.

The add ons to the weapon include the verious attach points on the weapon. Under the barrel hangs a Laser Targeter. It can be easily removed and is fairly robust and can be knocked around. A 4x scope sits on the top of the sight. There is no iron sight, as its need has been taken by the Laser. It is a varable scope, and can be disattached easily.

That ends our guided weapon tour. Now, stats:

Caliber: 5.56x45 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Overall length: 735 mm (490 mm with folded buttstock)
Barrel length: 210 mm - 215 Silenced
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds standard
Weight empty: 2.51 kg
Effective range: About 220 meters
Rate of fire: 750 rounds per minute

Cost: Regular: $600
Silenced: $650

5.45x39 has about the same effective range as 5.56 and does more damage at that range, when fired from comparable barrels. Meaning that the AKS-74U was better before you rechambered it.

That'd have to be some titanium alloy in the barrel, because titanium doesn't like being a barrel. It warps. Also, if it is nondetachable, first how did you make it, and second how are you supposed to change the quick warping barrel?

The AKS-74U isn't as reliable as the AK-74 which isn't as reliable as the definitive AK-47.

With a silencer of that length and width you better pray for subsonic ammo, because firing the same round which would make a POCRACK sound in the unsilenced version is likely to make a POFF sound when smoking that little cigarette you stuck at the end.

Laser sights need batteries and can reveal your position to an enemy beyond your effective range. A 4x scope is ineffective at <220 meters and without iron sights, what happens if and when the scope takes damage and you have to remove it?


This is not a good weapon. It has no range, does little damage, the barrel is probably not going to last long unless you reinvented titanium, and the 2 sighting system can both fail easily and when they do, you're out of options unless you're really good at Kentucky Windage.

We take 10 000 pieces of the silenced one. Can the optical sight be token off, as it's not very useful when the range is as small as that...

Can we modify the rifle to give it a higher range?

yes you can give it a longer, decent size barrel (oh wait thats just a regular AK-74!)

I have a much better, but much more expensive weapon, which I wont advertise here, because thats rude as hell.

And AKS-74U with a longer barrel is not an AK-74.

Ya know, although everyone is saying how much of a piece of shit these things are, they're supposed to be for tank crews. Its like the other shortened rifles, such as the Colt Commando, which are given to specialists, such as vehicle and aircraft crews, since the full assault rifles are too long to fit inside the vehicle. Anyways, this weapon would be handy for that sort of thing, although there are better weapons out there.

Ya know, although everyone is saying how much of a piece of shit these things are, they're supposed to be for tank crews. Its like the other shortened rifles, such as the Colt Commando, which are given to specialists, such as vehicle and aircraft crews, since the full assault rifles are too long to fit inside the vehicle. Anyways, this weapon would be handy for that sort of thing, although there are better weapons out there.

For that we use this (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97198&highlight=).