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KAF90F MBT on sale

New Empire
20-01-2004, 21:30
The KAF90F is the newest in the excellent KAF90 series of Main Battle Tanks, featuring the latest in weaponry, protection, and sensors. A joint effort by the New Empirian Military Projects Divsion and New Genoan Defense Department, the KAF90F is second to none, deadlier and more effective than anything Europe, Russia, or America has to offer.
http://207.44.246.95/95/164/upload/p1551.jpg
Armarment-
The KAF90F armament includes one upgraded New Empirian M514 Electro Thermal Chemical cannon, fitted in a thermal sleeve, stabilized in 2 axes and automatic muzzle reference system (AMRS). In principle, the ETC gun utilizes a chemically energetic (reactive) working liquid instead of a coventional solid propellent. The KAF-90F combines upgraded ETC propellant with existing SP 140mm guns and ammunition. Basically, the gun fires 140mm rounds, which hit with the power of 196mm rounds, and increases penetration by about 50%. In addition to the ETC propellent, ammunition has been quadra-charged. It penetrates 3000mm at 1km, 2100mm at 2km, 1400mm at 3km, and 1100mm at 4km. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. Also, the gun utilizes new 140mm SCRAMjet rounds, which allow for increased velocity or can be used as guided weapons, even long range indirect fire.
A 20mm New Empirian M1201 Six Barrelled rotary cannon has been mounted coaxial to the main gun, with three computer set firing settings to better use ammunition. A 5 round burst setting at 6000 RPM for taking out light armored vehicles, an ammunition conserving 450 RPM automatic, and a fast firing 6000 RPM automatic setting. The gun is fitted in a special stabilzier to ensure accuracy when firing at full automatic.
There are two FN BRG-15 Machine guns in a fixed forward mount on the glacis, fired by the gunner, and the other in a remote controlled cupola controlled by the commander. Using 15.5x115mm rounds, the BRG-15 was designed to replace aged Browning M2HB .50 cal (12.7mm) heavy machineguns, and was, probably, the most powerful machine gun ever made, outperforming even Soviet KPV 14.7mm. The BRG-15 can pierce 10mm of steel armour at 30 degrees at the distance of 1350 meters, or, in other words, capable to defeat armour of almost any APC at the distances of 1000 meters and beyond.
There are 12 New Empirian MAT-21 Anti Tank Missiles mounted behind the turret in rotating launchers. The MAT-21 is a high velocity missile, designed to get above the tank, and strike it from the top at velocities of up to Mach 2. The MAT-21 uses millimeter wave radar and IR guidance in tandem to locate enemy tanks. The MAT-21 can kill a T-80UM, T-90, Leopard 2A6, Challenger II, even the M1A2 Abrams 6 km out.
Self Protection
Armor consists of 2nd Generation Chobham, with an underlayer of tungsten and steel. Blocks of Non Explosive Reactive armor are also fitted onto the tank.
A New Empirian "Wasp" anti-missile protection system is also fitted on the tank. The Wasp AMPS was designed to replace ARENA. While ARENA was a good AMPS, it was limited by ammunition cassettes, and was significantly less effective against top attack missiles. The Wasp AMPS consists of 31 Packets of 5mm Flechettes. Each packet is about 15 centimeters by 15 centimeters in size, and contains 2250 flechette "Needles" and their propellant. One of these packets is mounted on a rotating turret with millimeter wave radar to protect against top attack missiles. When the computer in the Wasp AMPS detects incoming missiles, by the same criteria ARENA does, it fires off sections of the appropriate packet at it, showering the missile with high velocity (1500mps) armor piercing flechettes, destroying it, which will eliminate the missile completely, or detonating it prematurely, with minimal, if any damage to the vehicle. In extreme situations, the Wasp AMPS can be used against infantry, which causes horrific effects.
To scramble IR and laser guidance, a small camera turret is equipped with a focused laser to destroy missile guidance or blind optics, as well as aerosol and smoke grenades. The KAF90F has a reduced thermal signature by 60% when it's heat vents are activated, pushing the heat downward, where it is masked by the tank's bulk.
Fire Control and Observation
The KAF90F has the New Empirian 5FCS-6I integrated fire control system (IFCS) which is automatic but with manual override for the commander. The IFCS contains the gunner's 5FCS-5I day fire control system, gunner's TO1-KO2 thermal imaging sight which has a target identification range of 2.2 km to 2.5 km and commander's PERI-R 17 A3 sight.
The gunner's 5FCS-5I day FCS comprises of an EMES 15B dual magnification stabilised primary sight with: a missile guidance channel, a thermal channel, and a CE908 laser rangefinder, M2E42-4 armament stabiliser, M743 ballistic computer, and DVE-BS wind gauge.
The rangefinder can provide up to three range values in four seconds. The range data is transmitted to the fire control computer and is used to calculate the firing algorithms. Also, because the laser rangefinder is integrated into the gunner's primary sight, the gunner can read the digital range measurement directly. The maximum range of the laser rangefinder is less than 15,000m with accuracy to within 10m.
The commander's station has an independent periscope, a PERI-R 17 A3 from NGE Worldwide. The PERI-R 17 A3 is a stabilised panoramic periscope sight for day/night observation and target identification, and it provides an all round view with a traverse of 360°. The thermal image from the commander's periscope is displayed on a monitor. The PERI-R17 A3 can also be used for weapon firing as it is slaved into the tank's fire control system. The image from the gunner's thermal sight can also be transmitted to the commander's PERI-R 17 periscope so the commander can switch the gunner's video image to the commander's monitor. This enables the commander and the gunner to have access to the same field of view of the combat range. The system has identification ranges of 1000m (day) and 900m (night).
The IFCS is completely digitalized, linked into a M931 Integrated Fire Control Master Computer. In addition, the M931 is linked to an RM221 Radar, 50 miles (80 km), can identify 96 targets and track 48 as low as ground level. The RM221 works in conjunction with an RM224 Millimeter wave radar, with similar tracking abilities at a shorter range, 1-2 miles maximum.
Propulsion-
A Hydrogen cell engine equivalent to an 1800 carrying up to 4,200 liters of fuel can bring the tank up to 50mph.
The tank is provided with a snorkel for deep fording and can ford 5 meters of water with equipment which can be deployed in 20 minutes.
The mechanical transmission includes primary reduction gear, two planetary final gearboxes and two planetary final drives. The running gear features torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers at 1, 2 and 6 road wheel stations and tracks with rubber-metallic pin hinges.
Support Systems
The E-WNA electrical weapon system provides the following advantages: 1) the turret has no pressurised hydraulic fluid, 2) lower noise level and lower power consumption and heat generation, 3) improved reliability and lower maintenance and service requirements, 4) saving in operating costs and 5) good long term storage properties.
The crew compartment is equipped with a fire and explosion detection and suppression system. A fireproof bulkhead separates the fighting compartment from the engine compartment at the rear of the vehicle.
Navigation Systems
The KAF90F is equipped with a land navigation system. The hybrid navigation system consists of a Global Positioning System (GPS) and an inertial navigation system.
Other
The KAF90F is provided with an air-conditioning system. It can also be equipped with the Mobile Camouflage System and MDK-6 mine-clearing system. There is also a miniature sensor "arm" equipped with normal, infrared, and night vision cameras that allow the crew to see over hills and around corners. On the turret is a small camera turret that can telescope up and down to see over hills.
Cost
$8 Million
7.5 Million for APTO
Kazakhstania
20-01-2004, 21:34
Aha, the lengendary KAF-90E. The beginner of the ETC cannon, I believe.

I owe a great thanks and a huge amount of respect to the giver of much of my vehicles success.

Thanks :)
Markov
20-01-2004, 21:35
Am i on your "Can't buy" list?
20-01-2004, 21:36
Greenhome would like to puchase 2 KAF90F for evaluation purposes. Depending on how the testing goes, we may be willing to purchase more in the future.

2 KAF90F = $16 million USD

Money will be transfered on confirmation.
New Empire
20-01-2004, 21:55
Kaz-Yep, this is the legendary ETC slingin' APTO tank of lore. You're welcome.
Markov-Depends, who's in control of your nation. Don't lie, I know you haven't executed yer plot.
Greenhome-Order confirmed and shipping. We hope our tank is up to your standards.
New Empire
21-01-2004, 02:01
Bump...
Omz222
21-01-2004, 02:16
The OHDF Foreign Military Production Procurements Division along with the OHDF Foreign Arms Evaluation Board is highly interested in the evaluation of the new type of the battle-proven KAF-90 series. We would like to make a purchase of a total of ten (10) KAF-90F for test and evaluation, plus comparison to our current Iron Cheetah MBT in service, but they are to be fit at our requirements, if possible. Our requirements are:

-140mm ETC gun to be replaced by equivalent conventional smoothbore gun, suitable for the KAF-90F (the OHDF has a severe dislike of ETC guns on armored fighting and combat vehicles due to its weight effect, reliability, durability, and maintance);
-Additional testing, evaluation equipments plus full repair and maintenance.

We thank New Empire for any response.

OOC: Also I believe there's a thread NG made about you+NG's joint development short range air defence vehicles? Is that available for sale from you?
Johnistan
21-01-2004, 02:36
Aha, the lengendary KAF-90E. The beginner of the ETC cannon, I believe.

I owe a great thanks and a huge amount of respect to the giver of much of my vehicles success.

Thanks :)

No, this is all screwed up. I had a tank that had an ETC cannon one day before yours. Yours just sold much better.
New Empire
21-01-2004, 02:43
OOC-I never said it was the original, but we did have the ETC cannon in development for the KAF-90E in the 3 days we spent working out the stats... who knows. But the point is, we kinda made it famous.
IC-
While the improved M514 ETC cannon features a 100% increase over the KAF-90Es ETC cannon and ammunition, we will ship the KAF90Fs with the standard smoothbores, and they will still work with the SCRAMjet STAFF rounds, and we will discount the tanks to only $7.8 Million.
OOC2-I can get those to ya. I'll try to dig up the thread, but try TGing NG, he posted it.
New Genoa
21-01-2004, 03:07
<OOC: I think ya need to add the required RP aspect to the 1st post. We'll let the first sales slip by, but from now on you need to make a deceny RPed out post concerning your purchase.>

IC: We commend our New Empirian brothers upon releasing this incredible piece of machinery that revolutionized the future of battle tank construction and design. Though we provided very little contribution to the research and development portion of the KAF-90F project, we have made up the difference by wiring several cash payments to the NEMPD to assist in the purchase of building materials and to fund parts of the pay apportioned to the laborer whom built the tanks (the parts that weren't built by machine to be precise).

If the head of the NEMPD agrees, the NGDD will handle the delivery and confirmation of some of the purchases made by the international community. Rest assured, President Carter and the New Genoese Congress have already signed a bill authorizing the distribution of the KAF-90F; all that is needed is your signature.

-NGDD Officer-
21-01-2004, 03:29
Interesting design, however I have HUGE reservations as to your hydrogen engine technology. Your cannon system is also interesting, however the problom with liquid propelent is that they are not as stable as solid propellents are. Your shell must be quite large, as the amount of power your talking about would require quite a bit of propellant. Liquid substances are never as dense as solids. I bielive certain nations are correct in having their reservations.....My MBT uses somthing somwhat simular in that it is high velocity, however I merely lenghened a standard 120mm casing, gave it more charge, and sized the cannons bore to 130mm, allowing the use of a larger sabot to stabalize the faster moving projectile. Economical and powerful. Please elaborate on your hydrogen fuel cell engine. There are many problems concerning hydrogen powered equipment, especialy on the battle field. I will, however, not start ripping into you before I hear your side of the story. I have never heard anyone come up with a hydrogen powered anything that could in anyway be considered battle-field ready. (I turn wrenches on cars for a living, so I know what it takes to make somthing work realisticaly, impress me! Also, im glad you put a realistic price on such a powerful piece of machinery. Some nations like to try to sell massively powerful equipment for unrealisticaly low prices; it drives me nuts)
Audiophilia
21-01-2004, 07:49
I would like to purchase 40 KAF90F tanks for $320 Million. Money will be automatically wired when my order is confirmed. Pleasure doing business with you.
Kazakhstania
21-01-2004, 16:36
Well, interesting anyway.
Hogsweat
21-01-2004, 18:59
I see. Second to the T-7 , GT1/2, and some others ive seen.. However, i want some:

Twenty thousand sound nice ?
New Empire
21-01-2004, 21:00
DUD-Well, for the hydrogen engine, you'll have to ask NG, he came up with it. As for the ETC, this document (http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/5fcs97.pdf) can explain it a hell of a lot better than I can.
Hogsweat, don't bullsh*t me. That kind of order isn't even worth RPing a response to.
Audiophilia-The UCSNE Military Exportation Bureau has approved your order for 40 KAF90F tanks, which will be shipped by freighter. Thank you for your order.
New Genoa-You have as much right as me to sell it, the KAF-90 series was originally your design, and you have as much right to market them as I do.
Kazakhstania
21-01-2004, 21:13
Hey!

I use Hydrogen too! I didn't steal the idea, however. I havent been around long enough.

IC:

We wish to purchase the production, sales and plans rights for the M514 ETC gun.

The sales will be part of a larger tank, our M-26UM2. We will give you prod rights for it and all its systems if you give us the sales rights to this, with a large sum of money from us.

Please. It will be a main selling point of the tank, adn would hopefully lead to many future projects bwetween us, possibly my latest Heavy Battle Tank, designed to surpass the T-7 Miglamesh. It may or may not but it is worth a try.
New Empire
21-01-2004, 21:49
OOC-I meant coming up with the idea of hydrogen for the KAF-90...
IC-
While we are more than willing to give you production rights to the M514 140mm Smoothbore ETC/SCRAMJET, we are going to have to request that we get a cut of the sales of any product using the M514 or its rounds.
Production rights and Blueprints for the M514 come to 900 Million.
Production rights and Blueprints for the M14 and M14S ETC and SCRAMjet rounds come to 200 Million.
Kazakhstania
21-01-2004, 21:55
10% soudn good. We can give 15% maximum.

*$1.1 Billion Wired* for the prod rights :)

Thanks. This will give me an edge, i will upgrade immediately.
New Empire
21-01-2004, 22:05
We will take the 10% deal, the information is now being sent in a series of encrypted disks, and the decryption code will be transmitted to a secure location.
We look forward to any vehicles featuring the M514.
Kazakhstania
21-01-2004, 22:20
Thanks.

We will upgrde the imminently bumped M-26UM with it.
Slovano
21-01-2004, 22:34
The KAF90F is the newest in the excellent KAF90 series of Main Battle Tanks, featuring the latest in weaponry, protection, and sensors. A joint effort by the New Empirian Military Projects Divsion and New Genoan Defense Department, the KAF90F is second to none, deadlier and more effective than anything Europe, Russia, or America has to offer.
http://207.44.246.95/95/164/upload/p1551.jpg
Armarment-
The KAF90F armament includes one upgraded New Empirian M514 Electro Thermal Chemical cannon, fitted in a thermal sleeve, stabilized in 2 axes and automatic muzzle reference system (AMRS). In principle, the ETC gun utilizes a chemically energetic (reactive) working liquid instead of a coventional solid propellent. The KAF-90F combines upgraded ETC propellant with existing SP 140mm guns and ammunition. Basically, the gun fires 140mm rounds, which hit with the power of 196mm rounds, and increases penetration by about 50%. In addition to the ETC propellent, ammunition has been quadra-charged. It penetrates 3000mm at 1km, 2100mm at 2km, 1400mm at 3km, and 1100mm at 4km. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. Also, the gun utilizes new 140mm SCRAMjet rounds, which allow for increased velocity or can be used as guided weapons, even long range indirect fire.
A 20mm New Empirian M1201 Six Barrelled rotary cannon has been mounted coaxial to the main gun, with three computer set firing settings to better use ammunition. A 5 round burst setting at 6000 RPM for taking out light armored vehicles, an ammunition conserving 450 RPM automatic, and a fast firing 6000 RPM automatic setting. The gun is fitted in a special stabilzier to ensure accuracy when firing at full automatic.
There are two FN BRG-15 Machine guns in a fixed forward mount on the glacis, fired by the gunner, and the other in a remote controlled cupola controlled by the commander. Using 15.5x115mm rounds, the BRG-15 was designed to replace aged Browning M2HB .50 cal (12.7mm) heavy machineguns, and was, probably, the most powerful machine gun ever made, outperforming even Soviet KPV 14.7mm. The BRG-15 can pierce 10mm of steel armour at 30 degrees at the distance of 1350 meters, or, in other words, capable to defeat armour of almost any APC at the distances of 1000 meters and beyond.
There are 12 New Empirian MAT-21 Anti Tank Missiles mounted behind the turret in rotating launchers. The MAT-21 is a high velocity missile, designed to get above the tank, and strike it from the top at velocities of up to Mach 2. The MAT-21 uses millimeter wave radar and IR guidance in tandem to locate enemy tanks. The MAT-21 can kill a T-80UM, T-90, Leopard 2A6, Challenger II, even the M1A2 Abrams 6 km out.
Self Protection
Armor consists of 2nd Generation Chobham, with an underlayer of tungsten and steel. Blocks of Non Explosive Reactive armor are also fitted onto the tank.
A New Empirian "Wasp" anti-missile protection system is also fitted on the tank. The Wasp AMPS was designed to replace ARENA. While ARENA was a good AMPS, it was limited by ammunition cassettes, and was significantly less effective against top attack missiles. The Wasp AMPS consists of 31 Packets of 5mm Flechettes. Each packet is about 15 centimeters by 15 centimeters in size, and contains 2250 flechette "Needles" and their propellant. One of these packets is mounted on a rotating turret with millimeter wave radar to protect against top attack missiles. When the computer in the Wasp AMPS detects incoming missiles, by the same criteria ARENA does, it fires off sections of the appropriate packet at it, showering the missile with high velocity (1500mps) armor piercing flechettes, destroying it, which will eliminate the missile completely, or detonating it prematurely, with minimal, if any damage to the vehicle. In extreme situations, the Wasp AMPS can be used against infantry, which causes horrific effects.
To scramble IR and laser guidance, a small camera turret is equipped with a focused laser to destroy missile guidance or blind optics, as well as aerosol and smoke grenades. The KAF90F has a reduced thermal signature by 60% when it's heat vents are activated, pushing the heat downward, where it is masked by the tank's bulk.
Fire Control and Observation
The KAF90F has the New Empirian 5FCS-6I integrated fire control system (IFCS) which is automatic but with manual override for the commander. The IFCS contains the gunner's 5FCS-5I day fire control system, gunner's TO1-KO2 thermal imaging sight which has a target identification range of 2.2 km to 2.5 km and commander's PERI-R 17 A3 sight.
The gunner's 5FCS-5I day FCS comprises of an EMES 15B dual magnification stabilised primary sight with: a missile guidance channel, a thermal channel, and a CE908 laser rangefinder, M2E42-4 armament stabiliser, M743 ballistic computer, and DVE-BS wind gauge.
The rangefinder can provide up to three range values in four seconds. The range data is transmitted to the fire control computer and is used to calculate the firing algorithms. Also, because the laser rangefinder is integrated into the gunner's primary sight, the gunner can read the digital range measurement directly. The maximum range of the laser rangefinder is less than 15,000m with accuracy to within 10m.
The commander's station has an independent periscope, a PERI-R 17 A3 from NGE Worldwide. The PERI-R 17 A3 is a stabilised panoramic periscope sight for day/night observation and target identification, and it provides an all round view with a traverse of 360°. The thermal image from the commander's periscope is displayed on a monitor. The PERI-R17 A3 can also be used for weapon firing as it is slaved into the tank's fire control system. The image from the gunner's thermal sight can also be transmitted to the commander's PERI-R 17 periscope so the commander can switch the gunner's video image to the commander's monitor. This enables the commander and the gunner to have access to the same field of view of the combat range. The system has identification ranges of 1000m (day) and 900m (night).
The IFCS is completely digitalized, linked into a M931 Integrated Fire Control Master Computer. In addition, the M931 is linked to an RM221 Radar, 50 miles (80 km), can identify 96 targets and track 48 as low as ground level. The RM221 works in conjunction with an RM224 Millimeter wave radar, with similar tracking abilities at a shorter range, 1-2 miles maximum.
Propulsion-
A Hydrogen cell engine equivalent to an 1800 carrying up to 4,200 liters of fuel can bring the tank up to 50mph.
The tank is provided with a snorkel for deep fording and can ford 5 meters of water with equipment which can be deployed in 20 minutes.
The mechanical transmission includes primary reduction gear, two planetary final gearboxes and two planetary final drives. The running gear features torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers at 1, 2 and 6 road wheel stations and tracks with rubber-metallic pin hinges.
Support Systems
The E-WNA electrical weapon system provides the following advantages: 1) the turret has no pressurised hydraulic fluid, 2) lower noise level and lower power consumption and heat generation, 3) improved reliability and lower maintenance and service requirements, 4) saving in operating costs and 5) good long term storage properties.
The crew compartment is equipped with a fire and explosion detection and suppression system. A fireproof bulkhead separates the fighting compartment from the engine compartment at the rear of the vehicle.
Navigation Systems
The KAF90F is equipped with a land navigation system. The hybrid navigation system consists of a Global Positioning System (GPS) and an inertial navigation system.
Other
The KAF90F is provided with an air-conditioning system. It can also be equipped with the Mobile Camouflage System and MDK-6 mine-clearing system. There is also a miniature sensor "arm" equipped with normal, infrared, and night vision cameras that allow the crew to see over hills and around corners. On the turret is a small camera turret that can telescope up and down to see over hills.
Cost
$8 Million
7.5 Million for APTO
Omz222
22-01-2004, 16:53
The appropriate amount of money has been wired from our accounts. We thank New Empire for their authorization.
Audiophilia
26-01-2004, 06:46
After testing with the units we have bought, the members of the Audiophilian Testing Center Council has declared the KAF90F MBT to be one of the most reliable Military vehicles in its class. We congratulate the R&D of New Empire and New Genoa for creating one of the finest pieces of machinery our team has had the opportunity of testing.
Imitora
26-01-2004, 06:57
For research and testing purposes, I would like to procure sevon of these vehicles

Dr. Mathew Glunt, Imitora Military Industries, R&D.
Auman
26-01-2004, 08:12
I like the look of the Vehicle...May'be I'll pick some up, depending. The Imperial Regime of Auman is interested in buy a production license for this vehicle. Though the stock variant is sufficient, Aumanii climates and terrain would call for modification...we feel that would be most efficiently done in Aumanii manufactorums.

Please consider our offer.
Liberty Fighters
22-03-2004, 02:39
The Commonwealth would like to purchase 2000 of these tanks, and production rights. We have never had a problem with the KA series vehicles and have found them reliable for any task given. As General Smith, the CLF Marine Corps Commandant said...
"Those bugs will eat Sh!t when they have ETC Plasma HE Shells raning down on thier @sses!"
~On the battle firlds of Siesana while combating the ShaRa
Transnapastain
22-03-2004, 02:42
Hello, We would like the purchase one of your tanks for 8,000,000 USB for the purpose of putting it on display in our Museum of Foreign Militaries
New Empire
22-03-2004, 02:49
All new orders (I belive some were confirmed by TG) have been confirmed, and we thank you for your intrest in our armarment.

[EncryptComm-CLF]
Your production right request would come at 2 Billion, although we are willing to halve it for the technology to miniaturize our Nuclear Fueled Fission-Plasma rounds to tank cannon sizes. We look forward to your response.
22-03-2004, 02:59
No matter how much fancy shit you shove in that thing, it is still a HUGE target. Sorry, nothing to buy today.
Liberty Fighters
22-03-2004, 03:30
[EncryptComm-USNE]
The technology used in our HE Plamsa rounds were originally given to us by the Trinese Empire(ThirdEye). We are willing to exchange the technology for Production rights, as well as the 2000 tanks we want for boos purposes. Our lst KAF MBT we used we modified to a model reffered to as the KAF-90E/LF, it used our Plasma Rounds, as well as added ablative armor, and certain LF systems. It proved exceptional. We hope to do so with this model, we are more than willingto share all we know with our allies.