NationStates Jolt Archive


Call to ignore ARM

20-01-2004, 08:35
My case is simple:

No alliance can have billions of nukes and other WMD's like ARM claims when their oldest nation is barely over 1 RL Month old, and the strongest economy doesn't cap the "strong" rating. There for, I say they are godmodding and call for all nations to ignore them. Another point for ignoring them is the blatant use of puppet nations, that is a new nation made by the owner of another nation to make the older nation appear stronger, to make their group larger than it appears. A couple of examples of this can be seen here and in their thread responding to what this one was orignally.

OOC: Thanks for bumping this, ARM, or I would have never of thought to edit my post this way. :lol:
Xeraph
20-01-2004, 08:50
We've actually been involved in just one military situation, which we of ARM could not have won without our many allies and supporters.

We do not understand the animosity Horizon has for us, especially since we are also trying to unite nations in a peaceful and proprietary manner.

Would not the nations and regions interested in peace join us?

respectfullt,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, NNA, IADF, AR, GAPTS
20-01-2004, 08:53
Your warmongering is obvious. You directly threatened TBD who is our ally, with no logical justification. The post made by you friend tonight in TBD's thread, those saying you were peaceful, had an obvious threatening under-tone. My nation does not appreciate such things, and will do what we can to bring an end to it.
Xeraph
20-01-2004, 08:57
We "threatened" TBD, who was once OUR ally, because on 3 different occasions, TBD dragged us into a foolhardy conflict. When we appealed to other nations not to have anything to do with TBD, we were labeled "warmongers".

We're not looking for a fight, so why pick one with us?
20-01-2004, 09:00
We "threatened" TBD, who was once OUR ally, because on 3 different occasions, TBD dragged us into a foolhardy conflict. When we appealed to other nations not to have anything to do with TBD, we were labeled "warmongers".

We're not looking for a fight, so why pick one with us?

My coalition is a peaceful one, we are not looking for a fight, we are trying to prevent one between your group and other nations.

TBD had every right to assume you would back her up in a conflict, you were her ALLY after all, and this is what allies do, back eachother up. Your posts had a threatening under-tone to them, this is why you were called a warmonger.

A Tip: A little diplomacy goes a long way, and could prevent things like this.
Xeraph
20-01-2004, 09:01
So, in the name of diplomacy, can't we start over again as potential friends?
20-01-2004, 09:02
So, in the name of diplomacy, can't we start over again as potential friends?

Time shall tell....
Verboten Lufftewaffe
20-01-2004, 09:08
Exactly "which" Friend are you refering to!!....I Made a post on TBD's thread tonight and it by far implies anything close to hostilities...I offered Monetary support and if needed troops...which would be under TBD Command....
The extent of my "warmongering" is if i see any hostilities which look unfounded...I always place my units under a trusted command...And i have yet to see Xeraph "Warmonger".....As to why i do this....It's because when ever i see a thread it's always full of stupid sh*t about godmodding & noobs......So until i learn some tips and tricks from the RP Uni....I'll remain a backseat rp'er....Because i'll be damned if i'm gonna act like some of you nations out there...If you don't like what people have to say then ignore them..simple isn't it...

OOC: If this sounds like a ramble...I apologize...it's 3am...


Archon Prince James King I
Arch Duke of the AFFS(Region of the Federated Suns)
Councilor Tertius of GAPTS
Proud Member of
ARM, NNA, IADF, AR, GAPTS
20-01-2004, 09:10
Exactly "which" Friend are you refering to!!....I Made a post on TBD's thread tonight and it by far implies anything close to hostilities...I offered Monetary support and if needed troops...which would be under TBD Command....
The extent of my "warmongering" is if i see any hostilities which look unfounded...I always place my units under a trusted command...And i have yet to see Xeraph "Warmonger".....As to why i do this....It's because when ever i see a thread it's always full of stupid sh*t about godmodding & noobs......So until i learn some tips and tricks from the RP Uni....I'll remain a backseat rp'er....Because i'll be damned if i'm gonna act like some of you nations out there...If you don't like what people have to say then ignore them..simple isn't it...

OOC: If this sounds like a ramble...I apologize...it's 3am...


Archon Prince James King I
Arch Duke of the AFFS(Region of the Federated Suns)
Councilor Tertius of GAPTS
Proud Member of
ARM, NNA, IADF, AR, GAPTS

Not yours, I refer to False Gods post.
20-01-2004, 16:41
bump

If ARM is a peaceful group, then why is "Militaria" part of the name. :roll:
Xeraph
20-01-2004, 21:04
"Militaria" is part of the name because the military is part of the game.

Only a foolish nation/region/alliance would rely on the "good will" of others. That's just not reality.

Reality, as well as history, dictates that a strong military presence is the best deterent to armed conflict.
21-01-2004, 02:09
The Dark Legions of Skullzz will join your coalition. Also, count my colony, New Skullzz, in. I mean, they could be useful, seeing they alone more than double Xeraph's size. :lol:
Crossman
21-01-2004, 02:35
I do not take kindly to having my allies called "warmongers". Why don't you stop playing bully with your so-called "peaceful" nation. If you cared about peace you wouldn't be harassing my friends.

-Emperor Crossman
The Golden Simatar
21-01-2004, 02:37
Who is ARM?
21-01-2004, 02:37
I do not take kindly to having my allies called "warmongers". Why don't you stop playing bully with your so-called "peaceful" nation. If you cared about peace you wouldn't be harassing my friends.

-Emperor Crossman

Look out, they're bringing out the big guns here! December 16th nation, waaaaaay too powerful for me to handle! :roll:
Crossman
21-01-2004, 02:38
bump

If ARM is a peaceful group, then why is "Militaria" part of the name. :roll:

Exactly as Xeraph said, you need a military to protect peace from the REAL warmongers.
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 05:33
Now let me get this straight. Skullzz, you want to become part of GAPTS?
Don't get me wrong, we'd be honored. I thought that you had previously posted non-interest in joining anything "just a couple of weeks old".

Do you remember us? We were the alliance involved in the TBD airport/hostage fiasco. You had some of your people being held by Imperial/Inner Heaven, and you requested that we stand-down our air-strikes, which we did.

ARM and Skullzz were'nt exactly what you could call "buddies" after that, but as I said, we'd be honored to have you join us.

respectfully,


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, NNA, IADF, AR, GAPTS
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 06:09
<BUMP>
21-01-2004, 07:02
King Smegma of Head Injuries wants it known that support, financial, military, and political, will be swiftly sent to any nation allied with ARM.
Nebadon
21-01-2004, 08:33
<BUMP>
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 12:14
I find it very interesting that Redhawks calls a conference on terorism, and then locks out anyone he doesn't like. Little does Redhawks know that one of the attendees was one of my two closest allies.

Gee, I wonder if Redhawks and another of the attendees are one and the same person? Could they be stacking the deck? Perhaps an intl investigation is in order.

By the way, you can ignore ARM all you want, it's not going to go away.
I realize it's easy for some nations to ignore what they don't understand. After all, "ignore " is part of the word "ignorance", which it seems Horizon and pals wallow in on a regular basis.


Alaric
Dr_Twist
21-01-2004, 12:24
I am in Redhawks Terrorist talks and i can clearly say i have no puppets in there.

Myself and my Alliance have no reason to Ignore ARM at this ponit in time, Just becaues they are a bunch of small nations banding together isn't a reason to ignore them.
Crossman
21-01-2004, 21:20
I do not take kindly to having my allies called "warmongers". Why don't you stop playing bully with your so-called "peaceful" nation. If you cared about peace you wouldn't be harassing my friends.

-Emperor Crossman

Look out, they're bringing out the big guns here! December 16th nation, waaaaaay too powerful for me to handle! :roll:

Hey, I'm not here to pick a fight. And besides, even you at one time were a small, new country. You didn't just start off large...
Crossman
21-01-2004, 21:24
I find it very interesting that Redhawks calls a conference on terorism, and then locks out anyone he doesn't like. Little does Redhawks know that one of the attendees was one of my two closest allies.

Yeah.... that'd be me... Hi!
Crossman
21-01-2004, 21:24
I find it very interesting that Redhawks calls a conference on terorism, and then locks out anyone he doesn't like. Little does Redhawks know that one of the attendees was one of my two closest allies.

Yeah.... that'd be me... Hi! :lol:
21-01-2004, 21:45
Now let me get this straight. Skullzz, you want to become part of GAPTS?
Don't get me wrong, we'd be honored. I thought that you had previously posted non-interest in joining anything "just a couple of weeks old".

Do you remember us? We were the alliance involved in the TBD airport/hostage fiasco. You had some of your people being held by Imperial/Inner Heaven, and you requested that we stand-down our air-strikes, which we did.

ARM and Skullzz were'nt exactly what you could call "buddies" after that, but as I said, we'd be honored to have you join us.

respectfully,


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, NNA, IADF, AR, GAPTS

GAPTS? I don't want any part in any of your silly alliances full of your puppets.
21-01-2004, 22:01
I find it very interesting that Redhawks calls a conference on terorism, and then locks out anyone he doesn't like. Little does Redhawks know that one of the attendees was one of my two closest allies.

Gee, I wonder if Redhawks and another of the attendees are one and the same person? Could they be stacking the deck? Perhaps an intl investigation is in order.

By the way, you can ignore ARM all you want, it's not going to go away.
I realize it's easy for some nations to ignore what they don't understand. After all, "ignore " is part of the word "ignorance", which it seems Horizon and pals wallow in on a regular basis.


Alaric

Cease your faceless, n00bish, accusations. There was an open sign up thread. Anyone who wanted to could have signed up. I don't care if Cross is one of your closest allies, he signed up, so he's in.

OOC: Yes, Horizon and Redhawks were created by the same person, but they are two diffrent nations. One is an old democratic nation, bent on world peace and resolving things peacefully, and the other is a new militiristic dictatorship while also bent on world peace, uses military resources to get there. And before you accuse ME of stacking the deck, look in the mirror.
21-01-2004, 22:03
I find it very interesting that Redhawks calls a conference on terorism, and then locks out anyone he doesn't like. Little does Redhawks know that one of the attendees was one of my two closest allies.

Gee, I wonder if Redhawks and another of the attendees are one and the same person? Could they be stacking the deck? Perhaps an intl investigation is in order.

By the way, you can ignore ARM all you want, it's not going to go away.
I realize it's easy for some nations to ignore what they don't understand. After all, "ignore " is part of the word "ignorance", which it seems Horizon and pals wallow in on a regular basis.


Alaric

Cease your faceless, n00bish, accusations. There was an open sign up thread. Anyone who wanted to could have signed up. I don't care if Cross is one of your closest allies, he signed up, so he's in.

OOC: Yes, Horizon and Redhawks were created by the same person, but they are two diffrent nations. One is an old democratic nation, bent on world peace and resolving things peacefully, and the other is a new militiristic dictatorship while also bent on world peace, uses military resources to get there. And before you accuse ME of stacking the deck, look in the mirror.
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 22:16
Sorry Skullzz.....guess I read the thread wrong.

Horizon, I really don't understand what your problem is. Why don't you just shut up and mind your own business. I'll do the same.
Crossman
21-01-2004, 22:28
I don't care if Cross is one of your closest allies, he signed up, so he's in.

OOC: Yes, Horizon and Redhawks were created by the same person, but they are two diffrent nations. One is an old democratic nation, bent on world peace and resolving things peacefully, and the other is a new militiristic dictatorship while also bent on world peace, uses military resources to get there. And before you accuse ME of stacking the deck, look in the mirror.

OOC: Hmm... Cross... that's a new one, never had anybody call me that before...

Gasp!!! One in the same! Horizon... Redhawks...? I never saw that one coming. Hey, even I've made several puppet nations, though its obvious by their names, and I really haven't gotten around to the whole democracy concept. Working on it though. But I don't use them all to often for much of anything. Yes, I know its hard to believe, but Crossman, Crossmantica, Crossmangawa, and Crossmantium are all the same person...
Crossman
21-01-2004, 22:32
OOC:
Okay, okay everyone. I think this has gone on long enough, lets all just go about our merry ways, alright? Horizon, just do what you got to do but try to chill with this whole monitoring and ignoring ARM thing. And Xeraph, as your ally I'm advising you that this back and forth bickering right now isn't getting any of us anywhere. Just forget Horizon for now. We have better things to waste time on then arguing.

How does that sound to everybody? (see, I'm peaceful :D )

-Crossman
Crossman
21-01-2004, 22:38
Cartoria
21-01-2004, 22:38
i think the mods should move this. i mean it has nothing to do with international incidents. and whats this even about i mean what??
Crossman
21-01-2004, 22:38
OOC:
Okay, okay everyone. I think this has gone on long enough, lets all just go about our merry ways, alright? Horizon, just do what you got to do but try to chill with this whole monitoring and ignoring ARM thing. And Xeraph, as your ally I'm advising you that this back and forth bickering right now isn't getting any of us anywhere. Just forget Horizon for now. We have better things to waste time on then arguing.

How does that sound to everybody? (see, I'm peaceful :D )

-Crossman
Cartoria
21-01-2004, 22:39
i think the mods should move this. i mean it has nothing to do with international incidents. and whats this even about i mean what??
Cartoria
21-01-2004, 22:43
My case is simple:

No alliance can have billions of nukes and other WMD's like ARM claims when their oldest nation is barely over 1 RL Month old, and the strongest economy doesn't cap the "strong" rating. There for, I say they are godmodding and call for all nations to ignore them. Another point for ignoring them is the blatant use of puppet nations, that is a new nation made by the owner of another nation to make the older nation appear stronger, to make their group larger than it appears. A couple of examples of this can be seen here and in their thread responding to what this one was orignally.

OOC: Thanks for bumping this, ARM, or I would have never of thought to edit my post this way. :lol:


i mean i know it should be at least one nation if they just showed up and claimed they made em but not an entire allience if someone says they are funding it
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 22:51
My dear pal Crossman, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Horizon, despite his statements of peace, is just looking for a reason to start a war. I'll not give it to him. If at some point in the future he wants to mess with ARM, his will be the 1st move. ARM will definately respond.

Cartonia, this nonsense started when we made a call for moderate nations to stick together in an alliance. Horizon stuck his arrogant nose in where it wasn't needed. And, you know how it is, you just get tired of listening to low IQ rhetoric and you need to verbally defend yourself. Whether it belongs here or elsewhere is a matter of perspective. If a "discussion" erupts into war, it's probably best to keep it here.

So, let it be known that the next time I lower myself to speak to Horizon, it will be in response to his attack of ARM

Alaric, King of Xeraph
21-01-2004, 22:58
I shall ignore this alliance, for they are already called currupt, an enemy, and, what has mostly made my decision, Enemy to The People.
Crossman
21-01-2004, 23:07
i think the mods should move this. i mean it has nothing to do with international incidents. and whats this even about i mean what??

Very good point
Crossman
21-01-2004, 23:15
My dear pal Crossman, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Horizon, despite his statements of peace, is just looking for a reason to start a war. I'll not give it to him. If at some point in the future he wants to mess with ARM, his will be the 1st move. ARM will definately respond.

Good, then let us let this thread die now. I declare a cease-fire in the arguement between Horizon Island and Xeraph.
Xeraph
21-01-2004, 23:19
Ok, discussion is finished.

Now, Nudea Rudov, what's YOUR problem?
21-01-2004, 23:38
Just kidding, ain't ignoring no body, cause no body ain't ignoring me. :D
21-01-2004, 23:38
21-01-2004, 23:39
Just kidding, ain't ignoring no body, cause no body ain't ignoring me. :D
21-01-2004, 23:39
Just kidding, ain't ignoring no body, cause no body ain't ignoring me. :D
21-01-2004, 23:40
Just kidding, ain't ignoring no body, cause no body ain't ignoring me. :D
Crossman
21-01-2004, 23:47
Wow... quadruple post...

Good to know though.
Crossman
21-01-2004, 23:48
Wow... quadruple post...

Good to know though.