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It is too late to call me a cry baby. These 'empty threats' are not empty at all. You're capitol city has been destroyed seeing as how there is no retaliation to my attack within one day. That is the rule. And no, I am like George Bush, but you are too. Like him, I am going to blow the shit out of your country. Please make it noted that you have lost your capitol city to roughly 3 nuclear warheads. If you are a complete newb, please view the forums' pinned topic on how to RP and go to war. While you have been talking all this shit about 'equality, and being fair' you missed the key thing, you said you would listen and act to what we had to say. What I said was that we should share, therefore you should listen and act to that as well. And don't take the easy way out on that like a pussy and say 'Yes, I did act on it, by not letting you as delegate.' I already have you on that one. I thought you were equal but all you really want is to hog the power of Onabana and corrupt a peacefule region.

I am now sending air strikes with 40 Yamakawa fighter squadrons to each of your major airstrips. If you do not reply to this attack in one day, then the attack will go through and you will be at another loss.

The Incorporated States of Exonerate would like to wonder what caused this conflict, and hopes the needless bombings can stop.

First of all, you sent me a letter 9 hours ago that you were attacking. To my knowledge, that isn't a full day unless that's how you learned to count.

Exonerate, Swen is mad because a while back, I won the delegate position of the region of Onabana. Seeing as Swen had as my endorsements, he also wanted to be delegate. He demanded that I be forced to share the position with him every three days. You can look up the quote in Onabana's forum if you'd like. Not one country backed him up on his false claim to the delegate's chair. In fact, several of them agreed with me that sharing the delegate position would undermine any stability that the region of Onabana is trying to achieve. Swen then became irritable when no one would back his position and his posts became more and more nasty. And still no one backed his claim. Seeing as there was no chance he could win, he took his ball and went home, so to speak. He left the region and decided to bomb it, and in doing so showed Onabana that he could not care less about the region; he just wanted power. No one in Onabana agrees with him, and it is sad to say that his personal feelings for my nation are what is driving Swen to attack me, thus showing that he truly is a crybaby who didn't get what he demanded be handed to him.

Swen, I don't see how I "corrupted" Onabana. I won delegate fair and square, you wanted power, I said it was mine because I earned it, no one backed you up,and you left. End of story. If you want to continue this ridiculous conflict, you will lose because you're motives are flimsy and your judgement is poor and because of that no person in their right mind would back you up. Exonerate is right. They are "needless" bombings, so get a grip on reality and see that your thirst for power will be better served in a region filled with mindless sheep, but not in Onabana.

you still seem to forget that you did not win Onabana, you only got it due to the fact that we had the equal amount of endorsements and the computer chose who would get it. I suggested you share that in a term rotation, and you declined with an insulting post in our forum. My posts became nasty because yours were, you kept on insulting me over and over again, much like you in this last post. You are also a complete dipshit when it comes to republican politics. He called my definition of a republic (which was basically a definition of how the american system is) 'cute.'

Besides, it might have been 9 hours ago when you posted, but now it is later on. AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT ATTACKED. My judgment is not flimsy, and my motives are to end you and your nation. So far these two attacks are in effect.

-3 escorted nuclear bombers with 20 nukes each towards your capitol
-40 yamakawa fighter squadrons heading to strike each of your major airstrips

Please respond or you will lose your capitol city and your ability to fly airplanes.

The Incorporated States of Exonerate would like to wonder what caused this conflict, and hopes the needless bombings can stop.

please stay out of this, your opinions are taken into consideration-but do not get involved.

OOC: Ahhh, too young for nukes. INGNOREU missiles inbound...

I would like the Nation States community to censure Swen for the following insensitive remark:

"ALL YOU DO IS CONTRADICT YOURSELF, YOU QUEER"

I don't think that's the way to win anyone over.

And I checked, Swen. You're too young to have nuclear bombs. Nice try though.

I feel like I should bomb Swen on general principles.

Swen, I suggest you should back down, you really have very little argument and bombing the crap w/ ppl would not help you cause one bit. Now grow up, and move on w/ your life.

Kilean is calling up ALL A and B class reserve divisons, putting the KAF on alert, and ordering the Strategic missile forces to go on war readiness launch alert.

A partial writeup of Kileans military follows:

The Peoples Republic of Kilean is the most militaristic nation in Onabna. The government operates on a philosophy of “national power”- be it economic, military, cultural, or scientific. To this end, the PRK has made large corporations into virtual state-sanctioned monopolies, supported Kilean cultural institutions above everything else……and poured untold billions of thalers into the military. Kilean has been described as “not so much a nation state with an army, but an army with a nation state”. All told, some 750,000 kilean citizens are active-duty at any time, with some one and a half million more in the reserves. All Kilean males are inducted at age 18 into the armed services, for a period of some three years, followed by six years of active reserve duty in an “A” class reserve division, then reserve duty in a B or C grade reserve division until they are 40. The draft aside, may kileans choose to become career soldiers, due to the prestige of the job.


Branches of Service

Army- the Kileanishe Laandmacht is without a doubt the largest and most dominant of all the branches. It includes all ground troops, reservists, the Civil Defence Directorate (in wartime) and the Kilean Army Air Branch. The KLM is a virtual state within a state, running schools, public works projects, research facilities, oil refineries, munitions industries (Kilean NatczionallWaffanwerke) in addition to its function as an army.

Navy- The Kilean navy is a small one, mostly suited for littoral operations. Historically, it has operated mostly missile boats and diesel submarines. Recently, however, the Kilean navy has begun purchasing a small, yet effective surface fleet, including one major surface combantant. The Kilean navy also has a tiny Naval Air arm, and the enkranoplan squadron- nobody can decide if they are attached to surface fleet or the air arm. Other attached organizations are the Kilean Naval Infantry, a small (5,000 man) marine corps, and the Kilean merchant marine, that can seize control of all Kilean-flagged ships in wartime.

Air Force- The Kilean Air Force (Kilean Luftzwehr) is much smaller than the Army’s air component. Unlike the Army Air Branch, which provides tactical support and local air superiority denial to the Army, the Kilean Air Force performs primarily deep-interdiction, long-range strikes, and operations against strategic targets. The KAF also is tasked with delivery of Kileans nascent nuclear deterrent.

Other- the Internal Security Directorate is the secret police, intelligence agency, and Special Operations Command rolled into one. They can field several hundred men in their “direct action teams”, as well as a regiment of specialized counterinsurgent troops. Other military forces include the Kilean National Areospace Agencey, which along with the air force operates Kileans few spy satellites. Although insturmental in developing ASAT weapons, the air force, being in charge of high-level air defence, operates those.


Nuts&Bolts

The Army- the Kilean army is a massive force, totaling more than 500,000 men on active duty at any time. The Kilean army has some 14 front-line divisions.

Divisions 1-4 - 1st infantry, 2nd panczer, 3rd infantry and 4th cavalry (airmobile) are known as the “first four” and form the crème of the kilean laandsmacht.

All told, the standing Kilean army has 6 infantry divisions, 5 panczer divisions, 2 airborne/air cav divisions, and 1 light division..

Note: The Kileanishe word “panczer” is equivalent to “tank” or “armored” and is pronounced “pahn-tzer”

Reserves- Because of the length of kilean’s conscription terms, and their setup, the bulk of Kilean’s military power is in its reserves.

Unlike most nation’s reserves, the Kilean reserve divisions (at least the A grade ones) are almost totally up to front-line standards, at least once they have completed their shakedown training periods.

The KLM has 3 grades of reserve division- A, B, and C. (creative, no?)

A- class divisions are basically inactive front-line divisions. All their enlisted troops are reservists, but the officers are all full-time professionals. Transfer to an “A” reserve division usually accompanies an officers graduate work, R&D positions, or another assignment that does not place them in a full-time combat role. A class divisions have their equipment maintained in almost ready-to-go status. Training for men takes place for one week during alternate months, and for a full two-month training period once per year. An “A” class division can be mobilized within a week and a half. If it is totally expected to be up to active-duty standards, a further two weeks would be in order.

B- class reserve divisions have the same equipment as A class reserve divisions and frontline troops. However, this equipment is kept in mothballs, and requires some tuning-up to be mobilization ready. The enlisted men have all served in the KLM within the last 5 years. Officers are any members of the officer reservist corps. Training is one weekend per month for equipment upkeep and basic skills refresher courses, and every division will experience at least 1 call-up per year, usually for a short 2-week period. B class divisions can be mobilized in 2 weeks, although another two weeks of refresher training is advisable.

C-class divisions use obsolete equipment that has been phased out of regular service. The equipment is kept in deep storage, and not in any state of readiness. The men of C class divisions are those ending their service in the reserves- usually 30-40 year olds. Standing Officers are not permanently assigned to C class divisions, but all cadets doing postgraduate work, and all members of the reserve officer corps in the 40-50 year age range are assigned to a C class division. C class divisions can be assembled, have equipment ready and officers assigned within one and a half months, but if any sort of combat is to be expected, they will need at least two months of training to stand a chance on the battlefield. C class divisions are generally only suited for defending fixed positions (like Kileans border fortifications) or for rear-area security or occupation duty.

The KLM has, all in all, some 40 reserve divisions, comprising over a million men.

“A” class reserve divisions- 9

5 infantry
3 panczer
1 airborne

“B” class divisions- 17

11 infantry
5 panczer
1 light

“C” class divisions- 14

12 infantry
2 panczer

A note: The above units are not the sum total of kilean military manpower. In fact, almost half of the Kilean military are in one of the hundreds of units not part of any division: be they motor-transport brigades, theatre missile regiments, military intelligence companies, and so forth. In addition, the division is not the largest unit kilean uses. However, the division is the building-block around which the Kilean Laandsmacht bases itself, and the largest permanent unit, that is to say, the largest unit that cannot be pieced together “on the fly”. Kilean divisions are individually far larger and more powerful than those of other nations. A standard Kilean division will have some 25,000 men and somewhere around 1.5 times the artillery power of a “typical” division. The Kilean army emphasizes overwhelming assault as the key to breakthrough, and large size of the division is seen as key to this. This does mean that Kilean commanders have far less flexibility. Brigades and regiments are too integrated into the division to operate effectively on their own. But this is sort of the point of the system. When the bullet start flying, High command does not want to struggle with coordinating a huge number of autonomous units through “the fog of war” monolithic divisons, with much larger than average troop numbers and a large number of artillery and support units organic to them, are seen as preferable in any land war. Although corps-level support units do exist, there are not as many of them as in other armies. (in terms of numbers of units, not unit size). Whereas the US military may have specialist intelligence companies that are under corps command, the Kilean army integrates these smaller units into multipurpose “Command support regiments” that encompass a wide array of support troops. Kilean has no standing corps-level formations, armies, or army groups. The division is so complete in it’s structure that they are seen as being interchangeable “on the fly”. Of course, in wartime this all changes, as units operate together for long periods, new units are tacked on to the corps, etc.

While most nations would balk at the lack of higher-level organization, the excellent Ober Kommand Laandsmacht (OKL- Kilean high command) has a very capable general staff that is able to mix and match unit’s and organize their integration into larger formations in an efficient and rapid manner.

Equipment-

Small arms:
The Kilean army is equipped with the Stgw-74. This is a Kilean-made copy of the AK-74. The quality is far higher, and the machining is better, leading to a more accurate, slightly lighter weapon, but the legendary ruggedness is still there. The “look” of the weapon is radically different, with black composite replacing the wooden stock. The Stgw-74 was chosen because it could kill you just as dead as a more advanced weapon, and is far less likely to jam and is easier for the average soldier to use. Kilean made 40mm under barrel grenade launchers can be attached, and usually one man per squad carries one of the launchers.

The Stgw-74 is being phased out by the Gewehr-21. This is a cutting edge weapon designed by Kilean Waffenwerke to be the new rifle of the Kilean armed forces. It has both full-auto, semi-auto, and 3-round burst abilities. Although it incorporates a lot of composite, the G-21 still is a conventional gun, and although the outer stock is composite, it along with the barrel have been reinforced with metal frames for hand-to-hand fighting. The G-21 eschews bullpup design and opts instead for a conventional layout. Although low-magnification scopes (of excellent quality-typical of kilean optics) are integral to the gun, iron sights are still usable. It uses the same 5.45-mm ammunition as the Stgw-74, fired from 40-round clips of transparent composite. It is very accurate, even on automatic fire, and the integral scopes make long-range shooting less difficult. It has aroused worry because of higher complexity and consequent need for more cleaning, however.

Although some reserve divisions still use the RPG-7, the soviet-made rockets are by and large replaced by the GegenPanczerRokaten-4 (GPR-4). The GPR-4 is based off of the same design philosophy and has a similar appearance to the German panzerfaust antitank rockets. The basic idea is the same: existing man-portable disposable antitank rockets were too weak to work against modern MBT’s, and the engagement range is usually close anyways, so why not give infantry a powerful weapon that works at the ranges they usually fight tanks at? To this end, the GPR-4 has a massive shaped-charge warhead, at the expense of range. It is fired from a disposable launch tube, and can penetrate the side or rear armor of most MBT’s at ranges of up to 100m. They are easily made, reliable, (sort of) accurate, and are issued in great numbers.

Every Kilean infantry squad is based around the machinegun. The machinegun is a base-of-fire weapon, responsible for carrying out Kileans “contact, engage, envelop” strategy at the squad level. Boiled down, all Kilean infantry tactics are “use the machinegun to pin the enemy, flank with riflemen”. To this end, Kilean has developed the excellent MG-87. Entering service in 1987 (hence the designation) the MG-87 has show itself to be a capable weapon. It is a medium machinegun that can either be bipod mounted for squad use, or tripod/pintle mounted for vehicle or stationary use. It fires a 7.92mm round, feeding either from loose belts or 100-round drums that can be snapped on bleow the gun. It is capable of very high rates of fire. The best feature of the design is it’s quick and simple barrel switching procedure. The layout of the gun, and special heat-resistant composite grips on the barrel, makes it very easy to switch barrels from a covered position without exposing the men using the gun. Well-trained crews (I.e.- most Kilean soldiers) can do this very rapidly. This feature more than anything else lets the MG-87 keep up very high sustained rates of fire. In practice, a 2-man team uses the MG-87, one carrying the gun, the other ammuniton and the many spare barrels that are issued. Although heavy in comparison to squad machineguns of other nations, Kilean high command frankly doesn’t care about that. Kilean soldiers, and their famous ability to lug gear, have shown themselves capable of carrying and using the MG-87 to great effect.

Antitank:

Kilean, although content to use soviet-bloc equipment for much of its army due to simplicity, low cost, and ease of securing production rights, will only settle for the best for it’s antitank troops. The troops of the many antitank units of the KLM are tasked with holding back the onslaught of some of the most fearsome weapons on the modern battlefield. With the Kilean policy of concentrating MBT’s into massive units, infantry in units not near tank units often go without MBT’s to back them up. Antitank troops have, time and again, shown that they are the only things holding battalions, regiments, even divisions together in the face of concerted tank assault. Kilean tanks infantry antitank defence very seriously. Kilean antitank units are equipped with the Bofors RBS-56 missile. This Swedish-made, top attack missiles is one of the best in the world. (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/rbs56-bill.htm).

In addition, many infantry units and all airborne units are equipped with the PAK-77 antitank gun. Although considered to be made obsolete by the antitank missile, this 70mm high-velocity gun has shown that it’s depleted uranium sabot rounds are still effective against armored fighting vehicles and some tanks. The advantages of an antitank gun are that reloads are less expensive and more of them are easily transported, and that they cannot be “spoofed” by antimissile measures. The PAK-77 is often mounted on the jeep-like Waffentrager-Infantrie light vehicle. It fires from an eight-round clip, with an effective range of around 1,000 meteres against IFV’s.


Tanks/Armor:

The vast majority of Kilean army units are mechanized, and the standard transport of Kilean mech infantry is the BMP-1. (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/bmp-1.htm) Although the BMP-1, frankly, is a deathtrap against tanks or armored vehicles of any kind, it was chosen over the M-113 or a series of domestically produced vehicles primarily because of its cheap cost, better troop transport abilities over the BMP-2, and ease of manufacture. Its ability to lend some support to the infantry (taking enemy positions is easier when you have a 73mm gun along) was also a factor.

But, well, mostly cost.

The BMP-1 is now made in kilean factories, and is a common sight in the Kilean army.

Kilean’s standard battle tank is the T-72 aust.K- these are T-72's refitted with Kilean-made electronics and optics. Along with reactive armor and better antipersonell and nightvision systems, the aust.K has a pretty commanding advantage over the regular T-72. The aust.K has fire-on move capability, world-standard electronics, excellent optical sights, and a cutting-edge radio suite. Armor inserts, a newer, more powerful engine, and a better quality of worksmanship and materials all contribute to a very capable MBT. Although called obsolete by many, most of the changes to the T-72 aust.k are internal, and although it may not look it, in fact, this is a highly cost-effective and capable tank.


I suggest that swen, as well as all onabanan nations, attend a peace conference in Kilean to resolve this crisis. If this does not happen, I will have to put the above military to use. Do not destroy this region with your short tempers and strategic bombers, my fellow nations. Let us talk, let us reason.


But do NOT think that Kilean will stand by as mushroom clouds sprout in their terrible majesty. This is a UN seat, and millions will die for it. Ask yourselves, is this worth it?

Kilean will side against the first nation to employ nuclear weapons. We may be newer or smaller or poorer than some of the powerful nations in Onabana, but man-for-man, more Kileans are in uniform.

But any objective observer will see that I am not one with whom to F***. Let's talk this out, Kilean will moderate, and nobody will have to die.

Unless one of you takes the mad plunge into nuclear war.

Etronia, too, is mobilizing. We didn't build a state-of-the-art military to sit around on our laurels when things started heating up next door.

We're not calling up any reservists, but we *are* stepping up patrols, and our comms have been stepped up to the wartime-level caution.
Let's not do anything rash, hm?

The Incorporated States of Exonerate would like to wonder what caused this conflict, and hopes the needless bombings can stop.

please stay out of this, your opinions are taken into consideration-but do not get involved.
Whenever a nation declares war on another nation, it becomes our affair. International politics affect all, and we will not stand idly by when one nation invades another because they lost to them in an election.

That being said... We have deployed part of our fleet to the waters around both your nations. We have deployed the following:
1 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier with assorted aircraft
2+ Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
2 Hospital Ships
3+ Arleigh Burke Class AEGIS Destroyers
2+ Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Crusiers
3+ Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
Various unnamed ships.

We hope that a conflict will not arise from this, but be warned that the aggressor will be punished for their actions. All our ships have orders to not fire until fired upon. We expect them to be in range within 6 days.

Confidential Internal Communications to SSN Hunter-Killer, SSN Haunting
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To Exonerate:

Would you be interested in entering into a mutual-defence pact? That task force you sent is larger than our whole navy (which is actually a moot point- the navy is off the african coast currently in another RP)

Swen attacked another nation with nuclear weapons over petty UN politics. It would be best for kilean, onabana, and the world as a whole to make the agressor stand down, to force the victims not to retaliate, and to start negotiations.

For the time being, however, would Exonerate be willing to stand against the agressors, and with Kilean? Under any proposed deal, the Marines on your assault ships could land and be placed under Kilean command, while Kilean navy maratime patrol bombers, ground-based naval craft, ground-effect attack craft, as well as coastal missile boats could be placed under general Exonerate command.

Would this be acceptable? It would mean that any action against Exonerate forces would give you a powerful land-based ally to counterbalance your naval force, and any attack on Kilean would be deterred, beacuse it would automatically draw a foreign power in.

if i am too young for nukes, thats fine, but then how do i already have nuclear power? dont you think that if i have nuclear power then i would have nuclear bombs as well? think people... but all three bombers are armed with more than just that. and woopdee fucking doo kilean you have 750,000 in your standing army. i have more clone commandos than that. if you don't believe me ask the nation of CorpSac where i purchased them. my nations army is 33.3 million. exonerate, this war does not effect you and i really do not have a problem with you, so please do not enter into this war for your own people's sake. let us fight this out. so far it is me against kilean, and basal thrulls. with exonerate being dangerously close to starting some shit. Etronia, please do not get into this, i only attack people that have beef with me. you dont have any problems with me right now. beef is a bad thing when your against me. i insist that people stay out of this war. i understand that you all have good reason to be on alert, but do not fear- i am overthrowing an inept, ignorant, insulting, mean, rude, beligerant, belitting leader with power gone to his head. as much as he will try and snap back, all he usually says is 'you're a cry baby' and 'get a life.' take note that he too uses nationstates enough to respond to my telegrams and he is the most active role in a region: UN delegate. i am not whining, i merely want things to be fair in Onabana. now i just want to crush this douchebag and his petty, mentally handicapped population. yes, i may be insulting to him- but do not forget that if you view the forums, he technically started it.

the 3 bombers have already completed their mission and have succeeded. they're back at their base sipping coffee (w/e....). the capitol city of Basal Thrulls lies in smoldering ruins. and also there's the mission against his air bases which is almost completed.

i am also now setting up a blockade all around kilean with:
14 Iowa Class Battleships
5 JFK Class Carriers
4 Lost Angel Class Submarines
4 Ohio Class Submarines

the blockade will take three days to set up.

I have made a descision to defend Basal Thrulls.

Swen. i sugfgest you stand down. If you do not stand down within 12 hours real time. I will become involved in a conflict which you could not hope to win.

My nations population is over 1 billion. yours is some 333 million. my population triples yours

If you do not stand down, i will mobilise forces which could destroy youyr military on their own.


And before we start i suggest you find a decent reason to goto war. Computer choosing him over ytou isnt a reason




And also. too avoid an ignorefest, the maximum number of people you could have in your military would be 16.65 million. Even that you would be totally ignored. id suggest keep it down to 2% of your population max. (6.66 million)

Swen, you aren't only a godmodder, you're a fucking idiot.

I'm just going to ignore you.

I would like to thank everyone for their support in this time of international turmoil. I can assure you that the world is better off ignoring Swen. That is what I will be doing and I hope that you will do the same.

With that out of the way, I would encourageanyone who is searching for stability and regional unity to think about joining Onabana. Now that we have cut out the regional cancer that is Swen, we in Onabana look faaaaorward to ushering a new era of peace and prosperity. Thank you.

STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, MADE BY THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF NORTH RAMBUTAN ON JANUARY 18, 2004, TO ALL PARTIES CONCERNED.

**BEGIN TRANSMISSION**

The People's Republic of North Rambutan, while a young country, still is a member of the United Nations; and as such, deserves (and has been treated with) respect from other nations. Whether in a peacekeeping role, a humanitarian role, or a self-defense role, North Rambutan has always abided by a simple code, a code of honour and respect. Swen has seen to it that it offends and enrages as many nations as possible, in a feckless and counterproductive attempt to seize power and defame Basal Thrulls. The official position of The People's Republic of North Rambutan, however, is based on facts, reason and logic, not on passion and emotion. While North Rambutan does deplore Swen's behaviour, the Breinhunz Commission (the commission delegated to create foreign policy for North Rambutan) hasn't seen enough evidence presented by Basal Thrulls or anybody else to prompt a military response. Therefore, North Rambutan's position is that: a formal note will be sent to the UN deploring Swen's behaviour and recommending economic sanctions, and North Rambutan will cease shipments of goods to the region in question, until further notice. HOWEVER (!!), if any evidence is provided and corroborated which would impact the Breinhunz Commission's findings, other nations are requested to expedite the transmission of the evidence.

**END TRANSMISSION**

(OOC: Swen, you're a dumb f---, and if my nation wasn't neutral, it would side with Kilean and Basal Thrulls)

OOC: Swen, you're ignored... That's Godmodding. What a petty person.

OOC: Swen, you're ignored... That's Godmodding. What a petty person.

OOC: Swen, you're ignored... That's Godmodding. What a petty person.

OOC: Swen, you're ignored... That's Godmodding. What a petty person.


you guys are all retarded, if you read the fucking pinned post in the international conflicts section it clearly states that a nation can have anywhere in between 5-10% of their population in the military. DO THE FUCKING MATH OR ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO DO THAT? 333,000,000x.1=33.3 million. DUH YOU FUCKING RETARDS.

people who just want out of this are faggots and want to say they're ignoring. look, i really feel loved that people want to butt into this war, but you are not welcome and you are not accepted into this rp venture.

and kilean, explain to me how the fuck im a godmodder. i read through the section on godmodding in the read me on going to war, and there is no indication i am cheating in any way.

lapse, you will not be recognized. as big as your population is, and your military.....woopdee fucking doo. i made this conflict up as a chance to rp, and you aren't invited. have a nice day dipfuck. i allow people to enter this war when i want to. kilean and basal thrulls vs. me. you are not from onabana, and we are. so fuck off. you cannot just go throwing your weight around like an overpriviledged douchebag. and the computer choosing him over me is not the reason to go to war. man, what is it with fucking tools who can't read/retain information. you would think that people who play this quasi-nerdy online game would be smart. i said earlier that i am going to war because: "i am overthrowing an inept, ignorant, insulting, mean, rude, beligerant, belitting leader with power gone to his head." learn to read, so far that is all basal thrulls did while we had a debate in our forums. he talked out of his ass, and didnt know anything he was talking about. he even said that i was the regional delegate. like for some reason i magically had become it for about 30 minutes and then stopped.... by the way i was not ever regional delegate.

basal thrulls has now lost the ability to use his air force, and his capitol city is in ruins. the blockade is 2 days away from kilean

STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, MADE BY THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF NORTH RAMBUTAN ON JANUARY 18, 2004, TO ALL PARTIES CONCERNED.

**BEGIN TRANSMISSION**

The People's Republic of North Rambutan, while a young country, still is a member of the United Nations; and as such, deserves (and has been treated with) respect from other nations. Whether in a peacekeeping role, a humanitarian role, or a self-defense role, North Rambutan has always abided by a simple code, a code of honour and respect. Swen has seen to it that it offends and enrages as many nations as possible, in a feckless and counterproductive attempt to seize power and defame Basal Thrulls. The official position of The People's Republic of North Rambutan, however, is based on facts, reason and logic, not on passion and emotion. While North Rambutan does deplore Swen's behaviour, the Breinhunz Commission (the commission delegated to create foreign policy for North Rambutan) hasn't seen enough evidence presented by Basal Thrulls or anybody else to prompt a military response. Therefore, North Rambutan's position is that: a formal note will be sent to the UN deploring Swen's behaviour and recommending economic sanctions, and North Rambutan will cease shipments of goods to the region in question, until further notice. HOWEVER (!!), if any evidence is provided and corroborated which would impact the Breinhunz Commission's findings, other nations are requested to expedite the transmission of the evidence.

**END TRANSMISSION**

(OOC: Swen, you're a dumb f---, and if my nation wasn't neutral, it would side with Kilean and Basal Thrulls)

i am not a dumbfuck.... you are.
1. it is not my goal to offend as many nations as possible. i just offend the ones that offend me, much like yourself.
2. stay out of this for as i previously said, you have no part in this and will not be allowed.

man, what is it with retarded homos coming online and talkin a bunch of shit? you know what? you can take your 'breincuntz comission and shove it up your tight little asshole. you hear that? up yours you douchebag.

what is it with people just reading about this on the forums and then saying i'm an idiot when they themselves have no knowledge of how this started in the first place? don't judge a book by its cover. i take it that you do not read books, live in a trailer, and access NationStates.net at the county public library every week.

Swen. Stop flaming or youll get deated.

second. If you dont want me in this then i am donating a large force to the Basal Thrulls.

thirdly.

5-10%, but you need a frightening economy
with a very strong economy the max you could get (and arm) is about 3%.

Most people in the game would only go that high in war situations.

At the moment i have a 2% because i am in a war. I feel with 2% i am being n00bish. and i have a powerhouse economy. Better than yours.

Basically


you could either just keep flaming your ass off and get deated here or you could take our advice and have a rped war. If you decide on astronomicallly godmoding numbers you will either be ignored for life or nthat many nations of my size and above will come and kick your ass


your GDP

Swen Gross Domestic Product
Population: 339,000,000
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Very Strong
GDP per Capita: $15,000
GDP: $5,085,000,000,000
National Budget: $1,431,407,160,000

that means that you get about 1.5 trillion in taxes a year. of that maybe 300 billion maximum could go to military

keep that in mind.

what is it with people just reading about this on the forums and then saying i'm an idiot when they themselves have no knowledge of how this started in the first place?

a) because your flaming
b) because your godmoding
c) because you wont listen to our well meant advice

Hi everyone! It's your friendly neighbourhood self-proclaimed super-power! :D

It looks like your having problems sorting out your militaries <<nods>>.

I think you should use the Detailed Military Calculator, you can't be labeled a godmodder if you use this with a 0.8% population in the military.

Visit here (http://www.geocities.com/wuntokk/Home.htm) for more details on the D.M.C.!

TMB.

At the moment i have a 2% because i am in a war. I feel with 2% i am being n00bish. and i have a powerhouse economy. Better than yours.



2% is a fairly high percentile, seings as the US uses about a .2% military.

Try toning it down to 0.8% or 1%, that should let you have a more realistic military without crippling your economy.

TMB.

Swen, I have reported you to the mods, don't expect to be around much longer.

This is what happens when you act so petty and childish.

the 3 bombers have already completed their mission and have succeeded. they're back at their base sipping coffee (w/e....). the capitol city of Basal Thrulls lies in smoldering ruins. and also there's the mission against his air bases which is almost completed.
OOC: THAT is Godmodding. You're deciding the losses to his forces - furthermore, saying he can't fly planes is just effing retarded. Contrary to your beliefs, no nation is stupid enough to place all their aircraft in their capital.

I never accused your army size of Godmodding, did I? If you didn't want other people coming in, you should've made it a private RP.

HI already reported it so this thread so everything should be handled relatively soon.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

well, if i am going to be deleted, i would just like to say thank you to everyone. thank you lapse for butting ur big retarded gay ass into somebody else's affairs, thank you for being a big tool. really.
5-10% is what's in the pinned topic. i dont care what the hell the real united states is, i dont care what the hell your using, i care about me right now, i dont give a shit about you..... ok, i just read it, it said 5%. fine, i will change it. i can still beat the shit out of basal thrulls and kilean. and seeing as how basal is too much of a pussy and is too 'COOL' to rp in a war, i said what he should be saying anyways, unless he pops some SAM missiles out of his ass. and if i am being deleted, F.UCK you all for being big douchebags. i mean honestly, it is only a game and you should have portrayed more decency in the first place. gay ass liberal homos posting about 'war effecting the entire international community.' shove it. i am no longer viewing this forum and hope to go on with my nation and leave everyone alone, seeing as how your all anal retentive, 'holier than thou' assholes. that means you lapse, that means you exonerate, that means you basal thrulls.

*plays Swen's national anthem*

Swen's national anthem? Isn't that an Insane Clown Posse song?

there are dark rumors about the "facepaint expenditures" of Swen's government, but nothing has been proven.
time will tell ...

I dunno, Etronia, I'd shut up or he'll attack you with 10 million clone juggalo commandos.

Or he could call you a faggot. We can't possibly resist then!

Then my hand is forced! I must let the word out! Observe this line from last year's budget:
SOCIAL SEC $275,821,522
FCEPAINT, BLK $1,810,561
BLDG MAINT $15,514,010

I think that speaks for itself...

Also found in Swen's yearly budget:

SPELLING EDUCATION- $0.00

well, if i am going to be deleted, i would just like to say thank you to everyone. thank you lapse for butting ur big retarded gay ass into somebody else's affairs, thank you for being a big tool. really.
5-10% is what's in the pinned topic. i dont care what the hell the real united states is, i dont care what the hell your using, i care about me right now, i dont give a shit about you..... ok, i just read it, it said 5%. fine, i will change it. i can still beat the shit out of basal thrulls and kilean. and seeing as how basal is too much of a pussy and is too 'COOL' to rp in a war, i said what he should be saying anyways, unless he pops some SAM missiles out of his ass. and if i am being deleted, F.UCK you all for being big douchebags. i mean honestly, it is only a game and you should have portrayed more decency in the first place. gay ass liberal homos posting about 'war effecting the entire international community.' shove it. i am no longer viewing this forum and hope to go on with my nation and leave everyone alone, seeing as how your all anal retentive, 'holier than thou' assholes. that means you lapse, that means you exonerate, that means you basal thrulls.

hypocritical idiot.


*sets mod onto swen*

You can tell they are really pissed off by the amount of times they flame per post.

12 individual flames in that post.

Ok, swen. piss off

At the moment i have a 2% because i am in a war. I feel with 2% i am being n00bish. and i have a powerhouse economy. Better than yours.



2% is a fairly high percentile, seings as the US uses about a .2% military.

Try toning it down to 0.8% or 1%, that should let you have a more realistic military without crippling your economy.

TMB.

2% relative too other ntions is very little, but i do feel extraordinarily godmody when i calculate 20 million or somthing.

normally, my limit is at 7 million, including reserves but i have got myself into a few wars i shouldnt have and what do you know.

dont expect my 2 percent too last much longer. when swen is deated, itll go to probably 1.4%