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Law2k government requests airforce expantion.

16-01-2004, 19:46
The Law2k government has expressed its intention in expanding its air force. The perfered plane would have to be resonably cheap as we are looking to purchase 100s of these. Fighter or bomber craft are the type we are interested in. We are also looking at buying production rights for aircraft. If anyone can assist please notify us either on this thread or by telegram. Many thanks.

Oliver Levy
Spokesman
Law2k
16-01-2004, 23:13
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The Zoogie People
16-01-2004, 23:17
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110496

The ZF-26 is a multirole strike aircraft, giving you the best of both worlds - the speed and maneuverability of a fighter, and the capability to strike ground targets such as enemy air defenses and runways. Per-unit, the price is less than $40 million.

We also offer the ZF-12C, a previous generation strike aircraft which we've seen you already purchased from our store partner Penguisiana. Ther eare several other alternative aircraft, but it's up to you.

(The Russian Su-35 multirole is available as well)
16-01-2004, 23:25
When my boss the Minister for Defence "Igor Ivanovich" heard of law2k looking for new suppliers his face went very red, he drank two double whiskeys, loaded his AK-74 and went down to the shooting range, everyone left! - I doubt there'll be any un-used target sheets tomorrow!!!

Dana Scully.
Spokesperson for the MOD.
16-01-2004, 23:28
The Empire of Kevin Land manufactures the Worlds best Interceptor - the MiG31. We also are willing to sell production rights of the MiG19,21,23,and 25. But after this latest scandel, I doubt the Minister would be happy to sell you any of the above.

Dana Scully.
Spokesperson for the MOD.
16-01-2004, 23:28
The Empire of Kevin Land manufactures the Worlds best Interceptor - the MiG31. We also are willing to sell production rights of the MiG19,21,23,and 25. But after this latest scandel, I doubt the Minister would be happy to sell you any of the above.

Dana Scully.
Spokesperson for the MOD.
16-01-2004, 23:29
Kevin Land tell your Minister my nation offers him a thousand pardons. The thing is that we telegramed your nation almost 12 days ago with a list of things we were looking for but you didn't reply. We were very suprised and indeed upset. Perhaps we can verify the situation?
16-01-2004, 23:33
Well I'm not going down there, he'd shoot me!!! - Anywho, we never recieved your telegram.

Give us a list. We are now a frightening economy and more weapons stores have opened up.

I'll get the Minister while you get the list.
16-01-2004, 23:45
OK our nations list has expanded slightly from the telegram you didn't recive. We are interested in perchasing and production rights for the aircraft, some tanks and ground verchiles and building a naval fleet. We would be honoured if you would supply us. Please give the minister this truck load of whiskey as a personel gift from me.

President Kahane
16-01-2004, 23:45
OK our nations list has expanded slightly from the telegram you didn't recive. We are interested in perchasing and production rights for the aircraft, some tanks and ground verchiles and building a naval fleet. We would be honoured if you would supply us. Please give the minister this truck load of whiskey as a personel gift from me.

President Kahane
16-01-2004, 23:46
The Minister of Defence came back to his Desk, he saw that Law2k hadn't replied!

- He crunched his teeth. He chiped three teeth - "never mind" he said, "I'm rich and Dentists make my teeth nice look nice"

He is now at an unease with himself. He is very quiet. Waiting patiently for his reply. His Secretary is saying her prayers.
16-01-2004, 23:51
Ok two truck loads.
16-01-2004, 23:54
I'm afraid we're un-willing to give the production rights for our best planes.

The MiG 21 can go over 2,170KM/H and fly above 17,500M - That is faster and higher than all of America's Bombers.

The T-62 Tank has a 115MM turret.

No SAM's or Naval vessels will be sold for production rights.

If you wish to buy better material, you won't get blueprints etc. Telegram me if you want any of the above or wish to buy quantiites (but no production rights) to other Military Equipment.
The Zoogie People
17-01-2004, 00:27
OOC: Nothing against Kevin Land, but contractors of businesses are supposed to be evil and try to oubtid the other.

IC:

The MiG-31 is hardly the world's best interceptor. While formidable, it was created in the 70's and 80's. Today, there are better interceptors out there, such as the F-22, Eurofighter, and one that will come out of my storefront in a few weeks.

The following is a picture of a MiG-21:

http://www.telcom.es/~jcastjr/aviones/mig-21.jpg

So we doubt this would benefit your air force.

Our multirole aircraft feature limited automated thrust vectoring, helping it in combat situations, and enabling it to flying rings in a jolly fashion around MiG-29's.
Crookfur
17-01-2004, 00:49
The Law2k government has expressed its intention in expanding its air force. The perfered plane would have to be resonably cheap as we are looking to purchase 100s of these. Fighter or bomber craft are the type we are interested in. We are also looking at buying production rights for aircraft. If anyone can assist please notify us either on this thread or by telegram. Many thanks.

Oliver Levy
Spokesman
Law2k


If you fancy a real kickstart to your aviation industry Crookfur Arms in conjunction with Crookfur Civil Engineering can biuld you a series of manufacturing facilities that together can output upto 75 Eurofighter Typhoons per year.

The Crookfur ministry of defense has a large stock pile of F15Cs, F16Cs, Grippens which we would be willing to accomodate offers on (perhaps if we both ask Zoogie nicely i'll supply you with F-16Cs that he can upgrade to his F-16CZ standard for you).
The Zoogie People
17-01-2004, 02:27
The Law2k government has expressed its intention in expanding its air force. The perfered plane would have to be resonably cheap as we are looking to purchase 100s of these. Fighter or bomber craft are the type we are interested in. We are also looking at buying production rights for aircraft. If anyone can assist please notify us either on this thread or by telegram. Many thanks.

Oliver Levy
Spokesman
Law2k


If you fancy a real kickstart to your aviation industry Crookfur Arms in conjunction with Crookfur Civil Engineering can biuld you a series of manufacturing facilities that together can output upto 75 Eurofighter Typhoons per year.

The Crookfur ministry of defense has a large stock pile of F15Cs, F16Cs, Grippens which we would be willing to accomodate offers on (perhaps if we both ask Zoogie nicely i'll supply you with F-16Cs that he
can upgrade to his F-16CZ standard for you).

Sure, I can upgrade any F-16C's you buy.
17-01-2004, 11:32
Ok thanks both of you. How much would it cost to build the facilities in my nation for the 75 Eurofighter Typhoons? Are F-16F super falcons better than the F15Cs, F16s and if not would how much would they cost?
Huzen Hagen
17-01-2004, 11:43
As an ally of Law2k i would like to buy some factorys for the manufacture of planes.
Shildonia
17-01-2004, 16:39
Might I reccomend the pride of the Shildonian Flying Corp, the F-52 "Minotaur" (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113253&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)? At $110million it may seem pricey, but I'd like to see a Mig-31 fly 15,000km and then shoot down over 54 aircraft* from a range of over 100miles.
Production rights for the F-52 are not for sale, but we could allow some of your companies to produce parts for the aircraft (fuselage, engines etc)

Joseph Ryder III, Esq
Managing Director of Shildonia Weapons Corp.


*Number of aircraft shot down may vary depending on types of aircraft faced.
Credonia
17-01-2004, 16:41
Credonia sells aircraft for almost every kind of military use

http://www.geocities.com/credonia
17-01-2004, 16:51
Check our store (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114874) to see if there's anything you like. I'm sure the JAS 39 Gripen would satisfy the needs of your airforce.
Crookfur
17-01-2004, 17:07
Ok thanks both of you. How much would it cost to build the facilities in my nation for the 75 Eurofighter Typhoons? Are F-16F super falcons better than the F15Cs, F16s and if not would how much would they cost?


The deal we offer is for 4 factories that togehter are capable of producing 75 airframes per and 150 engines per year. We also would include design and upgrade consultantcy, technical support and personel training.
The total cost would be spread over 10 years at $150 per year

I really have no clue as to the F-16F super falcon (is that soemone's custom upgrade?).

The F-15C and the F-16 family are 2 rahter different designs. The F-15C is a dedicated heavy air to air fighter while the F-16 is a light weight multirole fighter. The F-15 is faster, has a slightly better radar, longer range and larger weapons payload than the F-16.

To be honest if you go for the eurofighter plant then you will have no need for the F-15s (the eruofighter does everythign the F-15 does) but a few F-16s might be useful as cheap backups for the more capable but expensive eurofighter and useful as a interim fighte runtil the plants coem on line (they take about 2 years to biuld).

In order to dispose of our large stock of redundant airframes we are marketing the F-15C at $30million each and the F-16C (block 50 standard) at $23million.


As an ally of Law2k i would like to buy some factorys for the manufacture of planes


I'll make you the same offer on factories and support for eurofighter production.

75 airframes and 150 engines per year output with full support and assitance for a mere $150million per year over 10 years.
Huzen Hagen
17-01-2004, 17:21
*1.5 billion wired*
Crookfur
17-01-2004, 17:25
*1.5 billion wired*


Many thanks for Choosing Crookfur Arms

The first engineering teams and thier equipment are being dispatched as we speak construction of the facilities and production line setup should take about 2 years to complete.
Huzen Hagen
17-01-2004, 17:27
ill pay for Law2k aswell if he ecepts your offer as he is my closest ally

mony will be wired when he confirms
The Zoogie People
17-01-2004, 17:32
Ok thanks both of you. How much would it cost to build the facilities in my nation for the 75 Eurofighter Typhoons? Are F-16F super falcons better than the F15Cs, F16s and if not would how much would they cost?

Well, the F-16XL project (E/F, huge delta wing) never came to fruition, because it got beaten out by the F-15 project, which resulted in the F-15E Strike Eagle. The F-15C and F-16E/F have totally different roles - F-16's are all multirole/strike aircraft, whereas the F-15C is designed to shoot down other planes only. The F-15E or Su-34 both make for good fighter-bombers, though. (My F-16's aren't the E/F version)



Crookfur, USAF had a little competition between General Dynamics and McDonnel Douglas in the 80's...GD made the F-16XL

http://www.voodoo.cz/falcon/old/f16147.jpg

Which lost to the F-15E Strike Eagle.

Shildonia... :shock: That is one gigantic plane :P
17-01-2004, 18:51
Sounds like a great deal. This is confirmation on the factories. Let the work commence. Thanks Hagen
19-01-2004, 21:42
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