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We're selling Acigoo... We have 5 ounces total (at time of this post), and selling each ounce for $9 million USD. This is Acid in a tacky, goo-like form, which creates evolving creatures over time. It also expands, and can not be contained except for in space and there's a special environment that it can be kept in but that has apparently been lost. Very rare! Off of a meteoroid that hit Earth months ago RL time... Nations around then should remember this stuff REAL well... come and buy! Use for research or for warfare!

ViZion will not stand for your nation selling Acigoo. You have no right to. We demand you do not sell it, and hand it over for disposal, or face invasion.

ViZion will not stand for your nation selling Acigoo. You have no right to. We demand you do not sell it, and hand it over for disposal, or face invasion.

Don't tell us what we can and can't due! You have no right to do that! We can sell this stuff if we want. If you invade, we will use the Acigoo against you! Back off you bully!

Who wants to buy some Acigoo? $9 million/ounce! Rare! Deadly! Great for war or research!

The Holy Empire of Crossman also warns against selling or using any such thing. For the good of the world, we demand that you dispose of it immediately or face the consequences.

We refuse to stop selling Acigoo. It is not in any violation of any law, there for it is completely legal, and if as you should know, when someone is invaded over something that is perfectly legal, there will be many nations backing me up. Besides, we don't even have it in our nation, thus you will find nothing to take, it would just waste your money.

Acigoo for sale! $9 million/ounce!

ViZion, please calm down. His nation is a fully soverign nation, and they reserve the right to sell their wares.

The Rogueian People: We will pay you 75 million dollars if you take the goo and eliminate all traces of it, so that it cannot fall into the wrong hands.

ViZion, please calm down. His nation is a fully soverign nation, and they reserve the right to sell their wares.

The Rogueian People: We will pay you 75 million dollars if you take the goo and eliminate all traces of it, so that it cannot fall into the wrong hands. I was about to ask you if you knew how bad this stuff was, until I read that last part... I'm glad to see that someone would pay more then that stuff is worth if he disposes of it. *sigh* now just gotta wait to see if he disposes of it...

But! I will say, if he does not dispose of it, we will find it and destroy it. We know how bad this stuff is. It can, and will, destroy any nation who does not take care of it and contain it, and if not stopped then, Acigoo and its creations can and will destroy life as we know it...

We refuse to stop selling Acigoo. It is not in any violation of any law, there for it is completely legal, and if as you should know, when someone is invaded over something that is perfectly legal, there will be many nations backing me up. Besides, we don't even have it in our nation, thus you will find nothing to take, it would just waste your money.

Acigoo for sale! $9 million/ounce!

But I know where you're getting it from. I know that you are keeping it out of your country for the time being. I am not intending on invading you, but if you or anyone who buys this acigoo from you, I will hold you responsible. You may maintain your sovereignty... if you heed my warning.

Hmmm, not a bad deal... But, it must be $125,000,000. Unlike money, Acigoo grows, and with it, so does our wealth. It has grown to 8 ounces by now. That is $72,000,000 worth of Acigoo, and growing.

We refuse to stop selling Acigoo. It is not in any violation of any law, there for it is completely legal, and if as you should know, when someone is invaded over something that is perfectly legal, there will be many nations backing me up. Besides, we don't even have it in our nation, thus you will find nothing to take, it would just waste your money.

Acigoo for sale! $9 million/ounce!

But I know where you're getting it from. I know that you are keeping it out of your country for the time being. I am not intending on invading you, but if you or anyone who buys this acigoo from you, I will hold you responsible. You may maintain your sovereignty... if you heed my warning.

HA!! What warning is that? If I or someone buys Acigoo, I will be held accountable? For what? Buying and selling something legal? You're a joke!

I defend my new allies sovereign right to buy and sell Acigoo. There is nothing illegal about it, thus you shall not tell us if we can or can not tell it! Dust on you!

I do not dispute the fact of its legality. I just don't want something of that power to fall into the wrong hands. That is what I am trying to stop. If you use if for peaceful reaserch, then I will have no quarrel with you. But when it becomes a danger to other nations, that is when I will step in.

may give us more infomation on this Acigoo?

CorpSac Corporation

I do not dispute the fact of its legality. I just don't want something of that power to fall into the wrong hands. That is what I am trying to stop. If you use if for peaceful reaserch, then I will have no quarrel with you. But when it becomes a danger to other nations, that is when I will step in. The legality? See, this is where we differ? This stuff should not be legal? If I had the topic still, it would be outlawed right here, right now. Those who fough with ViZion against Acigoo know how bad this stuff is. It destroyed a whole nation of about 300-500 million in about 2 weeks RL time (about 4 months NS time) and that was peaceful.

The fact is, we have lost the only way to contain it. It can not be contained on Earth, nor on space ships. On a rock in space or in a certain environment (which has been lost) are the only two ways to keep it from doing anything. And, in space, you can not do research on it due to the fact that it kind of... "disappears" until it enters an atmosphere. If any Acigoo Nations out there read this, PLEASE tell them the horror stories of Acigoo.

i ask once more what is this stuff and why the hell are the you people scard off it

Oh hell do I remember that vividly. First it was all peaceful with litte animals and such. Reasurcher flocked towards it. Several days later one of my teams was killed. A SEALs team was sent in and suffered heavy losses. Then all hell breaks lose ending in the atomization of a nation that I helped evacuate. We had to invade another nation to recover the rest of it and just managed to save a few hundred million more.

We fought in the first of the Acigoo wars....the only way to contain the initial spread of the stuff was total destruction of the nation that the meteor landed in.

It resisted most conventional weapons. We sent in a whole Division of soldiers to rescue some of the researchers, of 10,000 troops. None came out alive.

And that was just the initial contact. There were several other wars and conflicts, all in all....nothing good came of it, just a few...hundred...million deaths.

this does not tell me what i want to know, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS STUFF cos if its as bad as you poeple are making out then maby somone should get it off him.

No some good came of it. Nations joined forces in ending a threat some forming great friendships and the fact that a wide selection of weapons were useed against the "creatures" and found out some weaknesses.

We will give you 200,000,000 USD to dispose of all of it. Every last drop. Then, hopefully we can find a way to eliminate it forever.

To answer CorpSac's question, all we know is that it is from space, and it's a goo-like substance that is extremely acidic. It also grows rapidly. That's all we know... and that it creates things... no actual definition

this does not tell me what i want to know, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS STUFF cos if its as bad as you poeple are making out then maby somone should get it off him.

Not exactly sure...as we said. Researchers all died.

It came from a meteor that hit a few months ago, but from observations and early reports(there might have been more after we pulled out of the conflicts), it seems a self replicating substance that induces hyperevolution. It assimilates matter that is in contact with it, the creatures that it creates were highly hostile, and highly adaptive. Perhaps even sentient....but we pulled out after the initial nukings and conflicts, so perhaps someone else can fill you in on the rest.

We will take Central Facehuggeria's offer. We will get rid of it.

Well one of the reasrchers is still alive after he was badly wounded he was evacted but he said that the place came alive with things only that of hell can produce. He is curently located in a mental center because of it.

Excellent. *Money Wired* Dispose of it. But mark its location, so that it can be destroyed later (if it is even possible to destroy it)

We will take Central Facehuggeria's offer. We will get rid of it. We thank you for this! This has just helped us out alot! Us meaning, ViZion, you, and the world! Smart move. Now we just need to get Egypstan's stockpile destroyed... *sigh* this could be harder... He's very stuborn, their new leader.

Excellent. *Money Wired* Dispose of it. But mark its location, so that it can be destroyed later (if it is even possible to destroy it) Well, the way we must despose of it is... does anyone have any spare, old (but running) spaceships? If so, we need it ASAP.

Well one of the reasrchers is still alive after he was badly wounded he was evacted but he said that the place came alive with things only that of hell can produce. He is curently located in a mental center because of it. *sigh* T'was a horrible time... :-( *Remembers those lost in battle*

So I'd hate to say this but we may have to go with one of the worse ideas of a mass invasion untill we aquire the stockpile and remove it.
And also there is one ofther survior. Phoenix Maxwell or better known at that time SPARTAN-117

I paid for its disposal, so now, does anyone have a method of disposing of the stuff?

First, we thought that a plasma furnace could destroy them, if I recall the appropriate tests done by Quincy Minning on the material.

Second, I'm sure we can find some enticement for Egyptians to want more than Amigoo. (How much does he have?)

Well...this highlights a issue we thought forgotten.

We need protocols for Acigoo incidents. Because we know how dangerous it is...acigoo supercedes national soverignty. And frankly...we're tired of going through this whole soverignty rigermarole every time.

Here's what we think. The Acigoo Protocol
1. Any nation found to be harboring, trading, or producing the substance forfeits it's national soverignty.
2. Other nations are in full justification to use measures ranging from invasion to WMDs to secure the acigoo for elimination.
3. Any Acigoo is to be destroyed or disposed of at first opportunity. If not, then article 1 will come into effect.

Were interested in buying Egypstans acigoo...

$350 mil, we will then auction it off. Wed advise the pro-disposal side to make the quick bid of $2 bil and be done with it (we will hand it over then). That can help finance the war effort against Fluffywuffy!

Two bil! To be wired once we have confirmation that you have the merchandise.

If the stuff is a mere five ounces, a single KASS warhead should eliminate it.

Simply position the warhead within 12' of the Acigoo and trigger it (remotely).

You'll end up with a 12' by 12' by 12' area of high-grade vacuum, and a pocket universe containing five ounces of Acigoo.

A KASS rocket is a unguided rocket with a gemstone warhead.
A spell (Kartanak's Advanced Spatial Separation) is implanted into the gemstone, and when the rocket hits, it triggers the spell.
The spell wrenches a 12' by 12' by 12' area out of sync with the rest of the universe, causing its contents to vanish.

First, we thought that a plasma furnace could destroy them, if I recall the appropriate tests done by Quincy Minning on the material.

Second, I'm sure we can find some enticement for Egyptians to want more than Amigoo. (How much does he have?)
Since it is acidic in nature, we suggest first immerising it in a base to neutralize it. Then we place it in a plasma furnace as Alcona and Hubris suggested, and transport it to the Sun.

Well...this highlights a issue we thought forgotten.

We need protocols for Acigoo incidents. Because we know how dangerous it is...acigoo supercedes national soverignty. And frankly...we're tired of going through this whole soverignty rigermarole every time.

Here's what we think. The Acigoo Protocol
1. Any nation found to be harboring, trading, or producing the substance forfeits it's national soverignty.
2. Other nations are in full justification to use measures ranging from invasion to WMDs to secure the acigoo for elimination.
3. Any Acigoo is to be destroyed or disposed of at first opportunity. If not, then article 1 will come into effect. Agree

If the stuff is a mere five ounces, a single KASS warhead should eliminate it.

Simply position the warhead within 12' of the Acigoo and trigger it (remotely).

You'll end up with a 12' by 12' by 12' area of high-grade vacuum, and a pocket universe containing five ounces of Acigoo.

A KASS rocket is a unguided rocket with a gemstone warhead.
A spell (Kartanak's Advanced Spatial Separation) is implanted into the gemstone, and when the rocket hits, it triggers the spell.
The spell wrenches a 12' by 12' by 12' area out of sync with the rest of the universe, causing its contents to vanish. We tried, it only makes it worse (Nukes, warheads, etc).

Oooooh, shit. Just when you think that that horrible world-eating goop is gone...

Who wants to glass 'em?

Oooooh, shit. Just when you think that that horrible world-eating goop is gone...

Who wants to glass 'em? lol, remember what happened last time we tried glassin it w/ nukes? They got stronger... Well, Acigoo and Dragons anyway... thank god the dragons aren't back..

First, we thought that a plasma furnace could destroy them, if I recall the appropriate tests done by Quincy Minning on the material.

Second, I'm sure we can find some enticement for Egyptians to want more than Amigoo. (How much does he have?)
Since it is acidic in nature, we suggest first immerising it in a base to neutralize it. Then we place it in a plasma furnace as Alcona and Hubris suggested, and transport it to the Sun. That would be the best suggestion... well, except, anywhere but the sun... We do not know what the reation would be when it comes in contact with the sun. I would advise a far away planet or elsewhere far, far away.

If the stuff is a mere five ounces, a single KASS warhead should eliminate it.

Simply position the warhead within 12' of the Acigoo and trigger it (remotely).

You'll end up with a 12' by 12' by 12' area of high-grade vacuum, and a pocket universe containing five ounces of Acigoo.

A KASS rocket is a unguided rocket with a gemstone warhead.
A spell (Kartanak's Advanced Spatial Separation) is implanted into the gemstone, and when the rocket hits, it triggers the spell.
The spell wrenches a 12' by 12' by 12' area out of sync with the rest of the universe, causing its contents to vanish. We tried, it only makes it worse (Nukes, warheads, etc).

You obviously did not read what we said. A KASS warhead simply removes the surrounding volume from the rest of the universe. No mess, no fuss, it's just...gone.

(Well, if you want to be technical, it's jammed away in a pocket universe, but still...)

If the stuff is a mere five ounces, a single KASS warhead should eliminate it.

Simply position the warhead within 12' of the Acigoo and trigger it (remotely).

You'll end up with a 12' by 12' by 12' area of high-grade vacuum, and a pocket universe containing five ounces of Acigoo.

A KASS rocket is a unguided rocket with a gemstone warhead.
A spell (Kartanak's Advanced Spatial Separation) is implanted into the gemstone, and when the rocket hits, it triggers the spell.
The spell wrenches a 12' by 12' by 12' area out of sync with the rest of the universe, causing its contents to vanish. We tried, it only makes it worse (Nukes, warheads, etc).

You obviously did not read what we said. A KASS warhead simply removes the surrounding volume from the rest of the universe. No mess, no fuss, it's just...gone.

(Well, if you want to be technical, it's jammed away in a pocket universe, but still...) Ahh, k, missed that part, my bad... Well, now if only we can find out where it is located...

Khrrck
Actually That would work except for the fact that nations that use sidereel space for FTL transport might get pissed about acidently running into that material (I know it's own pocket but acigoo may generate a 'resonating' pocket that acts as a well so any further generation of gaps between real and sidereel space near the loci will open up that pocket.)
And we do not want to piss of the Var, really we don't.

Khrrck
Actually That would work except for the fact that nations that use sidereel space for FTL transport might get pissed about acidently running into that material (I know it's own pocket but acigoo may generate a 'resonating' pocket that acts as a well so any further generation of gaps between real and sidereel space near the loci will open up that pocket.)
And we do not want to piss of the Var, really we don't.

If things popped out of pockets created by KASS warheads, we'd constantly be getting reports of various bits of masonry, mangled tanks, foot soldiers, etc. floating around the system...

Khrrck
Actually That would work except for the fact that nations that use sidereel space for FTL transport might get pissed about acidently running into that material (I know it's own pocket but acigoo may generate a 'resonating' pocket that acts as a well so any further generation of gaps between real and sidereel space near the loci will open up that pocket.)
And we do not want to piss of the Var, really we don't. Hmm... interesting theory... So, what shall we do?

If things popped out of pockets created by KASS warheads, we'd constantly be getting reports of various bits of masonry, mangled tanks, foot soldiers, etc. floating around the system... lol, ok, hey guys.. Suggestion... lets work on how to get the stuff outta Egypstan's hands... he already dropped it on The Rogueian People... who can handle the clean up and containment job there? Also, before he dropped this stuff on all the rest of us, let's get this stuff out of his hands! Then we can worry about how to get it outta here...

I reccomend we put it in as secure a containment device as we can, and then get rid of the whole thing with a KASS warhead.

Hopefully, the containment device should work if the thing gets knocked out of its pocket universe, and we can get rid of it again.

Oooooh, shit. Just when you think that that horrible world-eating goop is gone...

Who wants to glass 'em? lol, remember what happened last time we tried glassin it w/ nukes? They got stronger... Well, Acigoo and Dragons anyway... thank god the dragons aren't back..Well, we'll use my ortillary then. Either way, who wants to whipe them off the face of the earth?

I reccomend we put it in as secure a containment device as we can, and then get rid of the whole thing with a KASS warhead.

Hopefully, the containment device should work if the thing gets knocked out of its pocket universe, and we can get rid of it again. Containment in some kind of device is not possible w/ Acigoo or this wouldn't be a problem these days... :-(

... Either way, who wants to whipe them off the face of the earth? *raises hand* I do! I do!

I reccomend you do NOT use ortillery. If you hit a Acigoo-infected location, it could splatter into surrounding nations, and that is a Bad Thing.

Yes but acigoo is a) not an inatimate object
b) Not defined as a material native to this planet nor follow some basic laws of physics. The only way that acigoo can continue to grow it is either converting dark matter to normal matter
converting energy into matter
Since sidereel space is filled with gama radiation (and acigoo is not a 'dark' substance (energy absorptive on most wavelengths) it may be syphoning energy from sidereel space. This would work with the notations about atomic weapondry that we have seen which typcially is very high in volumes of gamma radiation.
It would also explain why a plasma furnace, which does have exstreamly corrosive matter, and electrons but not as much gamma radiation as some atomic based systems would be somewhat effective in limiting the growth rate.
(OOC: I have just taken two completely diffrent concepts and melded them the sidereel space is from some of the works by David Drake so I'm actually not completely out of line on this!)
c) If a peice of masonary hits a Var warship is it going to care?

I say we do follow Khrrc's idea but monitor the loci for any possible problems. Or at least tell the Var about it. They might just think it is the cost of doing buisness.

Containment in some kind of device is not possible w/ Acigoo or this wouldn't be a problem these days...

Hrmm. What do you suggest? We could dump a pile of radio beacons with really long-term power sources into the pocket universe with the Acigoo, but that's not reliable.

Or at least tell the Var about it.
Who are they

[OOC: Gotta go.. bah]

Yes but acigoo is a) not an inatimate object
b) Not defined as a material native to this planet nor follow some basic laws of physics. The only way that acigoo can continue to grow it is either converting dark matter to normal matter
converting energy into matter
Since sidereel space is filled with gama radiation (and acigoo is not a 'dark' substance (energy absorptive on most wavelengths) it may be syphoning energy from sidereel space. This would work with the notations about atomic weapondry that we have seen which typcially is very high in volumes of gamma radiation.
It would also explain why a plasma furnace, which does have exstreamly corrosive matter, and electrons but not as much gamma radiation as some atomic based systems would be somewhat effective in limiting the growth rate.
(OOC: I have just taken two completely diffrent concepts and melded them the sidereel space is from some of the works by David Drake so I'm actually not completely out of line on this!)
c) If a peice of masonary hits a Var warship is it going to care?

I say we do follow Khrrc's idea but monitor the loci for any possible problems. Or at least tell the Var about it. They might just think it is the cost of doing buisness. Alright, we'll do that... but we've got a containment issue in The Rogueian People! Plus, Foe Hammer (in NationStates Forum) might be attacking and taking out Egypstan (I said I could, too, but I'm not, because, I'll tell ya)... but, this could be a problem. We will not be able to find out the location of the Acigoo until it is to late...

Oh dear, here we go! Foe Hammer is about to attack! http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2586452#2586452

A broadcast is sent out, an origin is unable to be located.

[code:1:d3d0043234]
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO... REMOVE... THE THREAT FROM YOUR HANDS...
[/code:1:d3d0043234]

Strange men start to poke around, obviously looking for something...

[code:1:7ded8ce3ec]WE ARE DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY TO DIRECTLY TAP INTO A HUMAN BRAIN, EXTRACTING ANY INFORMATION DESIRED. GIVE US CAPTIVES, AND WE SHALL... RETRIEVE... YOUR "ACIGOO" FROM THEM...[/code:1:7ded8ce3ec]

Yes, this material should be placed abord a spacecraft of some type and the ship itself have the weapon used upon it. We would suggest using a gravametric warhead (which does a similar effect as your weapon Khrrac but far messier)

Yes, this material should be placed abord a spacecraft of some type and the ship itself have the weapon used upon it. We would suggest using a gravametric warhead (which does a similar effect as your weapon Khrrac but far messier) That was the original idea, except w/o destroying it.

I didn't participate in the wars, but I read some of the RP's. That sh-- is not to be taken lightly, it's the most unstable substance known, and I don't think you realize the horrors it can unleash.

[code:1:383b753484]WE ARE DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY TO DIRECTLY TAP INTO A HUMAN BRAIN, EXTRACTING ANY INFORMATION DESIRED. GIVE US CAPTIVES, AND WE SHALL... RETRIEVE... YOUR "ACIGOO" FROM THEM...[/code:1:383b753484]
We advise against dealings with Neo-Mekanta. He was recently involved in a war against our regionmate, Last Anarchy Order, in which he lead a war of justified aggression.

I didn't participate in the wars, but I read some of the RP's. That sh-- is not to be taken lightly, it's the most unstable substance known, and I don't think you realize the horrors it can unleash. yip

We advise against dealings with Neo-Mekanta. He was recently involved in a war against our regionmate, Last Anarchy Order, in which he lead a war of justified aggression.

[code:1:bc58e67511]YOU MAY TRUST US IN THIS MATTER. NONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES CAN COME ABOUT IF THIS... "ACIGOO" DESTROYS EVERYTHING. REGARDLESS, THE PREVIOUS CORE HAS BEEN USURPED BY OUR NEW CORE MIND. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM US...[/code:1:bc58e67511]

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2586674 Invasion of Egypstan for poor usage of Acigoo!

"News has reached us of the return of the Antrel. We are not sure where this amount came from, due to the reason that all living Acigoo has been destroyed, and only a few non-living viles survived the war. Those viles were ordered aboard a spacepod, and launched into a black hole. If any of these viles survived, we will take action against the holders. 5 Ships are enroute to earth to oversee the disposal of the Antrel.
-Lady Azura

We would like a complete update on the events concerning the Antrel/Acigoo, as well as a list of all nations holding an amount of it.
(Provide the thread the nation got the acigoo in.)

"News has reached us of the return of the Antrel. We are not sure where this amount came from, due to the reason that all living Acigoo has been destroyed, and only a few non-living viles survived the war. Those viles were ordered aboard a spacepod, and launched into a black hole. If any of these viles survived, we will take action against the holders. 5 Ships are enroute to earth to oversee the disposal of the Antrel.
-Lady Azura

We would like a complete update on the events concerning the Antrel/Acigoo, as well as a list of all nations holding an amount of it.
(Provide the thread the nation got the acigoo in.)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115291 The war against Egypstan has begun and is now unstoppable. We need help cleaning up at The Rogueian People, as Egypstan launched Acigoo at them.

God, am I ever glad to see you!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115213 It all started here. The rest is history...

Alright. Any nations cleaning up Acigoo can telegram us and we'll provide KASS warheads as soon as possible.

Alright. Any nations cleaning up Acigoo can telegram us and we'll provide KASS warheads as soon as possible. I'm in the middle of fighting Egypstan... Someone else will have to right now...

Damn you, ViZion! Dust on YOU!

Yes, this material should be placed abord a spacecraft of some type and the ship itself have the weapon used upon it. We would suggest using a gravametric warhead (which does a similar effect as your weapon Khrrac but far messier) That was the original idea, except w/o destroying it.

We can simply put it in a Cargo Vessel and shoot it towards the sun, or into a black hole.

Yes, this material should be placed abord a spacecraft of some type and the ship itself have the weapon used upon it. We would suggest using a gravametric warhead (which does a similar effect as your weapon Khrrac but far messier) That was the original idea, except w/o destroying it.

We can simply put it in a Cargo Vessel and shoot it towards the sun, or into a black hole. lol, see, now we're getting simpler... which is fine as long as it gets the job done... :-) BUT! We still have a big mess in The Rogueian People's nation, where Egypstan used two missiles worth of Acigoo... their nation is over-run by it now I'm sure... we gotta get that contained, and I mean quickly... it'll be a multi-national problem... and we can't get friendly with its early creations, either, which seem nice. And, no fighting... Just get it contained, then we get it outta here... (and pray no one takes any... *sigh* I know some nations will get greedy, just like last time... so, gotta be careful about it, and much more secure...)