NationStates Jolt Archive

-Lord General Ilritz in a statement to the international community.-

"As a result of the recent union between The Reich, Arda and GDODAD many institutions have expressed a certain amount of worry. The balance of power has been affected quite drastically in a very short period of time. Many groups have tried to organize the ranks of freedom loving nations in an attempt to adjust the balance of power to lean in the direction of Justice. Nations, who are not a part of the afformentioned Alliances, are welcome to attend. These talks are not in anyway a discussion on any assault on the Axis powers, but negotiations geared towards the defense and prosperity of participants."

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I dont want to see Arda, Reich or GDODAD members coming on here and informing us of our demise. If you have something non-inflammatory to add please do. This will be rp'd as if all our characters are in the same room...that room being Overlord Marduks Reception hall in Beautiful Vascilia City, Auman.

Jonathon Partridge from the Austar Union would like to attend.

I am the Chairman of The Allied Socialist Union.

I am going to send my Prime Minister to this Meeting as it is going to be extremly important to our Alliance.

*GDODAD tag*

Mangala will send an advisor/observer to the meeting, though we do not seek to join any alliance, we do see the threat posed by Arda and wish to remain informed.

Phyrric will send the Minister of Foreign Relations.

Greenhome will send the Vice-President to the talks. We are very concerned about this alliance between the Reich, Arda and GDODAD. (Especially GDODAD, we don't like them...) Anyway, with your permission we will attend.

OOC: What do you know about the GDODAD? If I may ask, youngone.

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Thread 1: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113752
Thread 2: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113764&highlight=

It involves a ally of mine being nuked into a nice, flat glass area for no reason. It was done by a member of GDODAD (TROUSRS). GDODAD supported their member. I offered a peace treaty in the second thread and they responed with their "treaty", my nation and many others paying them $100 million each.

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Double post...

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Anyone may attend, you dont have to ask. Just roleplay the arrival of your delegate.

IC:

Overlord Marduk sauntered towards the Aumanii panel, already places were being filled by many of the goodly nations of the galaxy. Pleased with the level of organization Marduk took his seat waiting for the rest of the delegates to arrive before starting the negotiations.

Commander Soldant himself will attend the meeting, after the matter of Death of Life is cleared up.

OOC: I can't really RP that much, stupid bloody work :(

Edit wrong nation

Strangely for the Eldar, the delegate that arrived was human, he served in the Mon-Keigh Intellagence services, and was known for his loyalty to the Council and to the Eldar. It stemmed from childhood. His Parents had been rescued before his Birth from a nation that was being invaded, by NOD. He had been raised by people that knew that they lived free and happy only because the Kionash had landed evacuation vessels in a place where Weapons of Mass destruction where being used, in short he lived because of what the Kionash had risked.

Partly this was why he had been sent, he was a living symbol to any who questioned the Kionash's resolve in such matters, after all had they not just been involved in an alliance with Melkor here on Mars itself against the League. He had partly also been sent due to that War, an Eldar may not have been the most welcome of guests, while no Humans had served, or do serve, in the Kionash's military. Mostly through he had been sent because the Council could not spare an Eldar for the task.

His instructions where clear, he was to witness these meetings, and see how exactly it went, if he felt the alliance had any merit he was authorised to join the discussions, he was not however authorised to sign for the Council. He had several other instructions of course, ones more subtle, partly it was to spike anything that might threaten the future of the Kionash on mars, how such might occur was not explained, and he felt the council was more covering it's bases here with that instruction.

Commander Soldant Hawkins stepped out of the helicopter, flanked by two Strikers. He walked into the room, looking around the room to assess the situation. Soldant's military training had kicked in; he looked for threats, listened to conversations, watched everyone's expressions, looking for any hint he was in danger. It didn't appear so, and he sent the two Strikers back outside to wait.

Soldant took a seat, continuing to watch and listen to everything that was going on around him. He waited for the main conversation to start.

Cheif of Security Gansarek arrived in his usual Waterminer uniform, and took a seat noticeably separated from the others.

And waited for someone to say something worth saying.

We as leadership in LAGD would be interested in what occurs at this conference.

Our mission is to eliminate a global threat such as this unholy alliance.

Ambassador Scott wearing a typical suit of dark blue, nothing formal, nothing relaxed either, enters the conference room and mingles with the other deligates, people of standing, and other persons of importance at this conference.

"Another conference, what fun this will be." Mr Scott thinks to himself. "I am not entirely sure that this conference will lead into anything of importance. What is there to gain from this? Where do the loyalties lie with everyone?"

Passing others as he heads toward the tables, looking for a place to sit. "Hello, hello" as he passes others. "I am not here for small talk, I am here for business and that is the killing business" as more thoughts are passing through his mind.

Gets the attention of one that appears to be a hostess, "Is there a place to grab a bite and a drink, it was a terribly long flight and I am parched."

President Karm Messner calmly entered the room and walked to his seat. He sat down, and organized the notes that he had put together. He then relaxed, realizing that the summit was still a ways from starting...

The Allanean President smiled as he sat down at the table. His two heavily armed Ted Nugent WarBiker Brigade guards stood behind him.

The human took his seat at the cnferance table, and did not even wait for all to be seated, before he began to speak. Before him sat a little name tag, which identified him as John Smith. Obviously fake, but while his face would soon be known to any observers, his real name might have broken the security of his family and so... The fake name.

'Sirs if I might be allowed to start, I would like to do so by making one Vital suggestion, and observation. We are all gathered here because we recognise the strength of this new found alliance, while it was perhaps a natural evolution of pre-existing alliances, and does not signify a shift in alligences between the parties involved, it is a union that is founded in strength and direction, no longer are thesee seperate bodies to act together simply because of loose treaties and understandings.' Stating perhaps the obvious the man was acting at the moment as through briefing his government, partly recapping the problem before continuing.

'However, no matter WHY we are here, any agreement reached here must remain a non-inflamatory agreement, by this I mean, that we must not form an agreement which could be used by the new alliance as grounds to attack us. We cannot bring war upon us, indeed the stregth of these talks may well lie in producing an agreement which does not name this new alliance, that does not directly deal with them, at least on paper. Let the reality be what it will be, but let us agree to forge an agreement here that cannot be used by our enemies against us, and let us forge a document which always leaves this alliance we oppose room to move. For if we close of all their options, until they have dealt with us, then they will come for us, we must forge a document here which seeks rather to direct the fury and power away, into places where it will do the least harm.'

OOC I wanted to get the party going hope no one minds.

The Mangalan observer strode in, nodding to those present. He moved to join the representative from Eniqcir, on the edge of the room.

[ooc: If you really want to stay by yourself I'll edit this Eniqcir, but we wanted to bring something up with you and we are also a neutral party, so we figured it would be ok]

As Ambassador Scott lifts himself from his chair, "And where exactly would the least amount of harm be?" asking the representative from Tor Yvresse. "An ally of yours? or mine? or his? or his? or hers?" making different motions of pointing to others. "there is nowhere that this Triumverant can go that will not cause harm to others in some fasion or another. Resources are resources no matter the destination or supplier. The strength lies within their alliance and they are on the roll, killing whomever they see fit with no remorse, no second thoughts, no consideration."

Takes a sip of his 7/7 that was just delivered to him from the wet bar, tps the host, "I will agree to an establishement of some sorts that can be unanimously fruitful and beneficial to all and not just those that are present at this moment in time. If an alliance structure is formed out of this meeting, then let it be more for a protection factor than it is for a accression factor. War is not what we seek with the Triumverant, it is an understanding that we will not abide by their aggression towards any of us."

President Messner got up off of his chair, taking a sip of water as he did. "Honorable representitives, may I offer a simpler solution. As the ambassador from Tor Yvresse stated, this must not be used as grounds for attack. However as Ambassador Scott said, it must be strong enough to resist. Therefor, let our alliance be a simple defense pact. If one nation is attacked it will be treated as an attack on all. This offers no provication and yet, if enough nations sign, will be an effective strategy for countering the Tripart Axis of Evil. I beg you to consider my words."

King Daniel Vallance arrives, aplogizing for his lateness he takes his seat.

The Mangalan observer strode in, nodding to those present. He moved to join the representative from Eniqcir, on the edge of the room.
Gansarek gave a nod of acknowledgement, but made no attempt to start up conversation. He sat with hands folded in his lap, leaning back slightly, and staring not quite straight ahead, as though daydreaming.

What deep thoughts might be occuring in his brain were not to be known. Perhaps he was contemplating what to do about the breakdown in the Maglev conduit between Serik and Dolokion, or perhaps he was just thinking about why none of these foreigners ever seemed to wonder if Gansarek was a given or family name.
[ooc: If you really want to stay by yourself I'll edit this Eniqcir, but we wanted to bring something up with you and we are also a neutral party, so we figured it would be ok]
(Not a problem. Such a person isn't likely to remain alone for very long IRL, so why should he In Game? <-rhetorical)

Overlord Marduk took the words of all the delegates seriously, but this was 'his' meeting. "My Regime feels that the result of these talks should be a comprehensice alliance. All encompassing and absolute. To often observers from my nation have bore witness to the autrocities of GDODAD and Arda. We have also seen the forces of Order stand idly by seemingly allowing these autrocities to happen. Auman, as misguided as our previous actions were, does not agree with the philosophy of the so called Axis of Evil and we believe that there needs to be a level of organization between the forces of order. The power of evil grows exponentially by the second as good is layed low. One by one our nations are being subjugated by evil and we stand by helpless. I say never again! never again will a nation of standing be destroyed by the greed of Arda, GDODAD, or the the Reich. Though, I also dont believe in the first strike policy of the LAGD nations, especially not now. Our nations need to organize with one another and stand in the face of evil. We will 'defend' our land and the land of others that we see as deserving of it. That is my view of the alliance...We are here today to hammer out an agreement that is to defend the futures of our people against the depredations of evil. We will not attack this Axis unless provoked but we will defend one another from the threat of annihilation that has so obviously manifested itself before us." Overlord Marduk, confident that he got his point across made his way back to the Aumanii panel and awaited the responses of the assembly.

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I dont think we should attack the Axis, we should just be organised in case they start trying to take over the world.

'I can assure you the council would not enter into any huge overbearing alliance. Those type of affairs seem to get out of control very quickly.' Pausing a moment he looked at the various delegates. 'Also for what purpose would such an alliance serve other than as an Anti-Arda+ alliance. It's role would be obvious to the world, but the suggestion of a series of Mutual-Defence-Pacts, in which we can say that, unless the attacked nation brought it upon themselves we will fight together, will serve a better purpose.' Pausing to look at the Overlord the Human smiled,

'For it would be insane for the council to imagine any move that committed us any further than that with you. We seek I assume to create a system that can protect all those that join, a series of mutual defence pacts would serve that purpose, they would also serve to be a draw to other nations, since in effect all that they need do is sign one fairly standard treaty. It would be a simple enough system, and as such many would be able to join.'

I suggest we should all sign the Allanean Covenant.

Commander Soldant fiddled around with his badge stuck on his combat armor. He dearly wanted to get out of it; it was starting to itch. He composed himself and decided it was time to actually say something apart from "No, I don't want anything to drink."

"Alright, let me get this straight. You want this alliance as like a mutural protection alliance sort of thing, right? To stop these people from attacking? I honestly have no idea who they are, what they are, or what they do, so I'll need more info before I comit SR to something like this. If this is meerely an alliance that's designed to be against one sole group, that's "defending" itself from these nations, which I know nothing about, then I see no benifet to joining, except conscripting SR for yet another war." Soldant finally pulled the badge off his armor. "If SR is going to join an alliance, we want to be assured that the alliance will be there for us if we need it, just like SR will be there for the alliance."

Soldant looked down at his sheet of papers, waiting for a response.

Still standing, Ambassador Scott adds, "There needs to be no concessions or promises made in this treaty except one and that is defense. If this treaty does form into a more formidable alliance, then that is the path that was meant to be. We are here because of a world threat and that is why Nations gather together. It does not need to be recognition on why we are gathered today but how we will carve out the future of our Nations. It matters not who Arda is or who exactly are the members of the Reich, what is important is who WE are and what WE stand for. This is not an alliance of anti-arda, this is an alliance of survival. Threats of war have many faces and show many different personalities. What this treaty is, is one of mutual trust and will, that we do not stand alone, we stand together, oppose the brutality and unjust actions of the Rogue."

With that, he exits the room briefly because his cell phone was vibrating on his hip. From the motions, he knew exactly who it was.

President Messner applauds Ambassador Scott's comments and stands up, "This is exactly why I proposed the mutual defense agreement. It would not cause trouble with the Tri part Alliance, but it would make them think twice about attacking. It offers the perfect solution between peace and defense."

Marduk applauded the Phyrrician "Thank Mr.Scott, for clearing this up. Commandant Soldant. You sent troops to aid Auman when Melkor and Arda were invading...I sent troops to help you against the DOL usurpers, I did not know who they were or why you were fighting but, we sent soldiers to help you just the same. Why? because we are allies, friends if you will. This alliance isn't to serve as a body for the destruction of Arda as Mr.Scott pointed out. But as a body of defence for all of our nations." Marduk looked towards the delegate from Tor Yvresse "This defence pact would be retro-active, we've gotten some reports from several sources that show your nation to be in a bit of trouble. We dont know exactly whats happening but some time ago I contacted your government. So please Mr."Smith" dont behave like you dont need us...because its so obvious that you do." The Overlord sat down and typed something into his dataslate, a large high definition screen in the front of the room began showing the exact names of nations attacked by Arda and GDODAD "These are the statistics that my intelligence officers put together, nations, many of them that would be sympathetic to us today are gone...subjugated by Arda or GDODAD. The numbers next to the names are casualty figures. Auman has never seen anything like this...not during the plague or the civil war, its truly disgusting really. Anyhow, I really dont have anything to say right now...lets here more from the panel shall we?" Marduk motioned for other delegates from the more quiet nations to speak their mind.

Gansarek gave a nod of acknowledgement, but made no attempt to start up conversation. He sat with hands folded in his lap, leaning back slightly, and staring not quite straight ahead, as though daydreaming.


Than Mangalan diplomat leaned over and quietly uttered some meaningless pleasantry, then sat, steepled his fingers, and observed the proceedings impassivly.

Marduk glanced over to his right, noticing the Mangalan and Enqciri delegates he typed a message to their desk's using his dataslate to relay it to them. "Do you gentleman have anything you'd like to add?" read the instant message.

King Vallance stands up and adresses the various members: I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Scott, this would be basicly and alliance of defense, that while not a direct threat, woud make an agressor wary of any actions that might have a negative impact.

Though, I also dont believe in the first strike policy of the LAGD nations, especially not now. Our nations need to organize with one another and stand in the face of evil.

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I dont think we should attack the Axis, we should just be organised in case they start trying to take over the world.

We weren't looking to strike first either. The last part (quoted) is our reason for existance. However, we're rather poorly created ourselves. We're now wishing to become a more tight-knit, visible organization - or at least come together with other anti-GDODAD groups and become powerful.

"So, then the nations here today would possibly agree to a defense agreement? I would like very much for you all to participate in filing the details into a more cohesive document. I believe that our nations should sign a mutual protection treaty, such a treaty would oblige to assist one another in the event of attack either internal or external, at home or abroad. Though some in my own government have suggested that the pact go further. They have suggested that our nations enter into a more comprehensive alliance where we would also enter into free trade and share intelligence. Though I cannot stress the benefits of this strategic alliance suggested by my staff, I will leave it to you to decide. My Regime, Auman, would prefer the option of a Strategic alliance as opposed to a loosely formed Mutual protection pact as that would be the most practical and effective scheme for the future." Marduks speech had been read to the assembly in 'Interlac', the universal language of diplomacy, the words came out of his mouth as if he had no understanding of their meaning...Marduk, being as he is a military commander, has spent little time training as a diplomat.

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I would prefer an alliance like NATO, but I suppose I could go for something more like the Arab league, That being a loosely formed coalition of nations that would occassionally help each other out.

"So, then the nations here today would possibly agree to a defense agreement? I would like very much for you all to participate in filing the details into a more cohesive document. I believe that our nations should sign a mutual protection treaty, such a treaty would oblige to assist one another in the event of attack either internal or external, at home or abroad. Though some in my own government have suggested that the pact go further. They have suggested that our nations enter into a more comprehensive alliance where we would also enter into free trade and share intelligence. Though I cannot stress the benefits of this strategic alliance suggested by my staff, I will leave it to you to decide. My Regime, Auman, would prefer the option of a Strategic alliance as opposed to a loosely formed Mutual protection pact as that would be the most practical and effective scheme for the future." Marduks speech had been read to the assembly in 'Interlac', the universal language of diplomacy, the words came out of his mouth as if he had no understanding of their meaning...Marduk, being as he is a military commander, has spent little time training as a diplomat.

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I would prefer an alliance like NATO, but I suppose I could go for something more like the Arab league, That being a loosely formed coalition of nations that would occassionally help each other out.

Gansarek leaned forward, placing his elbows on his knees.
"What happened to the MIDAS protectorate plan? Or were you not informed?"

Gansarek leaned forward, placing his elbows on his knees.
"What happened to the MIDAS protectorate plan? Or were you not informed?"

Do not know what it is.

Ambassador Scott, after relaxing and absorbing the materials that have been presented from others, is about to speak, but then hesitates for a moment while recollecting the phone call.

"How can that information be correct?" he thinks to himself "and how is it to be presented?"

"Ladies and gentlemen. As some of you might already know, Phyrric has been mobilized for a few weeks now and in preparation for actions that, in the near future, will be necessary. It is uniform that defense is the top priority here and other issues are just fillers. Since Tor called this summit, it would be wise to start action and get formulations on paper as war is on the horizon. A unified front might check this imbalance that has been stirred up in the NationStates Realm. We need to iron out details and if a treaty is to be made, we need to hammer it out now."

With a puzzled look on his face, he sits back down.

Commander Soldant nodded at the fact that Auman offered assistance to SR. "Ah, an excellent point. True. Unless something else comes up, I will sign your alliane."

The Western Alliance (comprised of myself and The Gulf States) would likely consider joining.

The Western Alliance (comprised of myself and The Gulf States) would likely consider joining.

I am not sure if there is anything to join anymore, it died.

Then in that case, does anyone want to join up with me and LAGD?

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This really a place for people to consider joining LAGD to go and discuss it...I had no intention of running an alliance.

OOC: I was not quite clear what the purpose was and did get a feel about the LAGD issue. I was not sure if anything was going to transpire out of it, let alone who was going to run things.

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Yeah, they were "Pro-Freedom" talks, if an alliance came out of it then great. But if not, oh well. No we have an idea of where we can turn for help if it does come to it and see exactly how many people are firmly opposed to this Triple Alliance.

I think Existing formations like ToY, The Vascilian League and LAGD should sign some sort of a loose or binding agreement. Though ToY would not benefit all that much...it would still show that there is a certain organization between the forces of good.

OOC: I dunno, you've lost me. I think I'll just back out.

The Gulf States and Flocarga and Delmarva are both my nations. Depending on which nation I'm logged into at the time is the one you'll see.

And to create a major alliance between multiple organizations - much like the one with GDODAD/Arda/Reich - would be good.

OOC: I dunno, you've lost me. I think I'll just back out.
SR:
What I said was, if Vascilia, The IMP, SR Control, LAGD and possibly even ToY were to start backing each other in military situations we would be stronger as a result.