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Contract given out!

13-01-2004, 21:29
Im giving out a contract to arm 2 Armored Divisions of my army.

Each Division consists of 50 000 men.

The soldiers already do have their personal equipment(assault rifles, machine guns, mortars etc.)

So what i need is Main Battle Tanks, IFV's, Fast moving artillery, etc. and maybe even some Assault Helicopter support.

What im looking for is fast moving and reaction speed with still enough firepower.

Giving the contract for best bidder in 3 days, or if something that we like is posted before that.

Oh and please dont advertise your own storefront unless you have a package that would suit my purposes.


Prime Minister of Estolad, Alencar Dahas
14-01-2004, 07:51
Bumppp
14-01-2004, 15:10
Bumppp
Kazakhstania
14-01-2004, 15:31
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107415
Ka-64 Transport Helicopter

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105251&highlight=
Ka-58 Attack Helicopter

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96418&highlight=
F-41 Fighter and C-145 Cargo Plane

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98289&highlight=
M-12 Infantary Fighting Vehicle

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100354&highlight=
M-15 Ligth Main Battle Tank

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106440&highlight=
RPG-15 Rocket Launcher

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105669&highlight=
LAR-91 Squad Automatic Weapon

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103133&highlight=
M-26 Main Battle Tank (Best one I got)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103981&highlight=
AK-111 Assault Rifle

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102158&highlight=
M-25 Scout Vehicle

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98620&highlight=
A-15 Stealth Ground Attack Fighter

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99604&highlight=
F-42 Stealth Fighter

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96694&highlight=
AK-109 Heavy Assault Rifle

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108970&highlight=
M-31 SPAAG/SAM

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110578&highlight=
WM-82 MLRS

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107439&highlight=
AA-3F AAM

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101825&highlight=
M-22 Tank Dstroyer

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2583543#2583543
M-34 Amphibious Tank
TheLiberator
14-01-2004, 15:33
kool..........
Kazakhstania
14-01-2004, 15:34
Gotta love large lists.
14-01-2004, 16:20
That list is kind of good, there are only two problems with it: Lots of stuff we dont need, like aeroplanes, and personal equipment. The rest that i was requesting for, are looking very good.

The other problem is that is not a ready package, what i was asking for.

Prime Minister of Estolad, Alencar Dahas
Kazakhstania
14-01-2004, 16:29
Forward Armor Package:

100 M-15 Light Battle Tanks
100 M-12 IFV's
75 M-26 Main Battle Tanks
75 M-31 AA Units
50 BTR-90's
25 M-22 Tank Destroyers

: $800 Million

Defensive Armor Package:

125 M-15 Light Battle Tanks
75 M-22 Tank Destroyers
50 M-26 Main Battle Tanks
50 M-21 AA Units
25 M-12 IFV's
10 BTR-90's

- $600 Million

Scout Package:

25 M-15 Light Battle Tanks
25 M-25 Scout Vehicles
25 M-12 IFV's
25 BTR-90's

: $200 Million
14-01-2004, 17:56
That's starting to seem great. Only thing i want to make sure that is in one package really enough vehicles for an entire 50 000 man Armored Division?
14-01-2004, 18:50
bumpp
15-01-2004, 07:13
bump
15-01-2004, 19:36
Check the Nordean Defence Industries Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2579370). We're sure you'll find our CV90, AMOS and others most suitable for your needs. And the prices are right too. :)
Crookfur
15-01-2004, 19:44
Just so that we may serve your needs better perhaps you could supply some more details as to how you organise your divisions?
At the moment Crookfur Arms only has package lists for Uk style ready and armoured divsions (17000-18000men).

If you could supply such details we could prvide a tailored solution to your needs.
15-01-2004, 20:40
Actually what kind of Details would you need?

Anyway here some basic facts:
1 Division= 50 000 troops

1 Division is Divided into 5 Brigades of 10 000 men

For you i can give contract on equipping 4 Divisions.

2 should be Basic Infantry Divisions
and
2 Armored Divisions

Heres Example:


1st Estolad National Army Division 50 000 men

1st ENA Armored Brigade 10 000 men(Heavy)
2nd ENA Mobilized Brigade 10 000 men(Fast moving)
1st ENA Infantry Brigade 10 000 men
2nd ENA Infantry Brigade 10 000 men
3rd ENA Infantry Brigade 10 000 men


1st ENA Armored Division 50 000 miestä

3rd ENA Armored Brigade 10 000 men
4th ENA Armored Brigade 10 000 men
3rd ENA Mobilized Brigade 10 000 men
1st ENA Cavalry Brigade 10 000 men
7th ENA Infantry Brigade 10 000 men


And you should equip 2 of both type Divisions. If you need more detail's just feel free to ask.


Prime Minister of Estolad, Alencar Dahas
Crookfur
15-01-2004, 20:47
Actually just a suggestion of which RL military you use as a base would help and in fact could give me all the info i need (ie modern US style, WW2 soviet or similar)

But in reality to properly assess your needs we would details right down to regimental or battlaion level.

To be honest there are so many permuations of the term armoured divsion and of brigade structures even amougnst western antions that it can be tricky.
15-01-2004, 20:57
Ahhmm... This is really getting tricky. I mean i really havent decided what RL military i would use as a base. Only thing i can say is that my weapons are modern US, at least mainly.

AND actually i havent *explored* the detail's deeper than only Brigade lvl.
That really brings out some hard issues with this "package" thing.

If you dont have some kind of other way, then i really dont know.
Crookfur
15-01-2004, 21:16
Well i use the british model for my ready and armoured divsions they consist of:

(actually these aren't exact figures for the RL british army as i converted it to use my units and can't find the page i used for the main organisation originally buts close enough)

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Regular (ready) division:
4 mechanised Brigades:
Armoured regiment (58 MBTs)
3 mechanised battalions (IFVs)
1 artillery regiment (SPGs)
1 repair/support workshop
1 engineer squadron
1 ATGM troop (4 AT vehciles)
1 medical squadron
1 AD detachment (4 light AA vehciles)
1 MP platoon (4 APCs)
1 Armoured recon regiment:
3 Recce Squadrons: (2 command vehicles, 12 IFVs, 4 LAVs, 4 AT Vehciles)
1 HQ Squadron: (4 command vehicles, 4 mortar carriers, 3 APCs)
1 Aviation Regiment:
16 attack helicopters
8 light utility helicopters
1 MLRS regiment:
24 MLRS
2 air defence regiments:
2 Light batteries: (36 AA vehicles)
1 Medium battery: (9 SAM launcher groups)
3 Field artillery regiments:
4 batteries (8guns)
2 Engineer regiments:
2 Logistics Support regiments:
1 REME support battalion
1 medical regiment
1 MP Company:
12 APCs
Totals:
Personnel: 18,000
MBT: 232
IFV: 660
SPG: 96
Comand Vehicle: 20
MLRS: 24
APC: 45
LAV: 36
AT: 28
AA: 88
mortar carrier: 4
SAM batteries: 9
Artillery guns: 96
Other Vehicles: 400
attack helos: 16
light utility helicopters: 8


Armoured division:
3 signals regiments
1 Armoured Recce regiment:
3 Recce Squadrons: (2 Command vehicles, 12 IFVs, 4 LAVs, 4 AT)
1 HQ Squadron: (4 Command Vehciles, 4 mortar carriers, 3 APCs)
1 aviation regiment:
16 attack helicopters
8 light utility helicopters
3 Armoured Brigades:
1 Armoured regiment (58 MBTs)
2 Armoured Infantry Battalions (6 command, 48 IFVs, 6 mortar carriers)
1 Artillery regiment (24 SPGs)
1 Aviation detachment (12 attack helicopters)
1 Engineer squadron
1 ATGM troop (4 AT)
1 AD detachment (4 AA)
1 logistics squadron
1 REME workshop
1 medical squadron
1 Recce squadron (2 command, 12IFVs, 4 LAVs, 4 AT)
1 MP Company (4 APC’s)
1 Divisional Artillery group:
3 Close support regiments: (32 SPGs)
1 depth fire regiment: (18 MLRS)
1 AA regiment
2 Light batteries: (36AA)
1 Medium battery: (9 SAM launcher groups)

4 engineer regiments
4 Logistics Support regiments
3 REME support battalions
1 Medical regiment
1 MP Company:
12 APC

Totals:
Personnel: 17,000
MBT: 174
IFV: 864
SPG: 288
Comand: 50
MLRS: 18
APC: 40
LAV: 16
AT: 48
AA: 84
Mortar carrier: 22
SAM batteries: 9
Other Vehicles: 500
Attack helicopters: 52
light utility helicopters: 8

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If you really want i can make sweeping assumptions based on the US model and simply provide the estimated number of tanks, IFVs and AA platforms needed and assume you produce your own specialist units.
16-01-2004, 07:06
Okay.. that would sound much easyer for me. Thank you very much for that.
Henry Kissenger
16-01-2004, 07:37
ausome.
Kazakhstania
16-01-2004, 17:43
Enjoy your stuff.

If you need anyhting else, just ask.

And most of my stuff is Soviet :)