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50 billion DefSystem Contract!!!

13-01-2004, 14:41
Im giving out a deal of 50 billion dollars, for a large scale defence system.

The DefSystem should consist Coastal Defence, Missile Defence and maybe even air defence.

Im giving out the deal for the nation that gives me the best system for 50 billion USD.

My countrys Land area are is aproximately 162 000 km2

My current air defence is classified, and i have no sea or missile defence.

Map:

http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/estoladmainmap.bmp



1 cm on the map is about 30km


Prime Minister of Estolad Alencar Dahas
13-01-2004, 15:20
*bumpp* :P
Soviet alliance
13-01-2004, 15:22
i can only provide you a 800MM coastal gun : /
13-01-2004, 16:17
Bumb... Oh well maybe i shouldnt be bumbing this so often. But well yes i'm not really interested in that.. i would really like more an overall decision.
13-01-2004, 18:08
*bumpp* I really seem to like bumping :?
Kazakhstania
13-01-2004, 18:18
We could do a coasal defense network.

My plans are:

---- = wall

^^ = AA emplacement

~~ = SAM battery

## = Field Operation post


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^ ~ ^ ~ ^ ~ ^

~ ~ ~

# #


You like?
13-01-2004, 18:37
Well the idea is kind of interesting, but i would need way more facts about hte system. How many SAM batterys per 1kilometer of coastline, are SAM batterys meant for anti-sea or anti-air purposes, what kind of Anti-Air enplacements are there and how many on 1 kilometer, what the heck is the purpose ofthat wall??? And so on...


Let the Bidding continue!
Haukka
13-01-2004, 18:43
Empire of Haukka offers you new modern anti-ship defence system. GLASMS-1 It has range of 70 km and it travels 300M/s. 8 countries are currently using GLASMS-1. If you are interested let us know and we tell you more specified information.
Credonia
13-01-2004, 18:44
I can provide you with a missile defense (I have missiles that can carry 10-20 warheads a piece) TG me if your interested
13-01-2004, 19:38
Credonia and Haukka, il keep your goods in my mind, in case no one makes an offer for all over defence system.

Let the bidding continue
13-01-2004, 20:59
B-U-M-P

Arent there really any nations interested in possible 50 billion USD profit?
Credonia
13-01-2004, 22:49
I can actually get you the entire defense system designed and built for a mere $7 billion
Credonia
13-01-2004, 22:51
I can actually get you the entire defense system designed and built for a mere $7 billion
13-01-2004, 23:01
While I cannot offer you a defense system I can offer you an idea:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/1998/12/concrete_submarines/

Excellent for coastal defense, and the idea can be modified for use as permant, unmanned stations postioned along the main sea lanes into your nation. I use a modified version of a permant model.
13-01-2004, 23:02
This server lag is starting to bug me...
13-01-2004, 23:03
While I cannot offer you a defense system I can offer you an idea:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/1998/12/concrete_submarines/

Excellent for coastal defense, and the idea can be modified for use as permant, unmanned stations postioned along the main sea lanes into your nation. I use a modified version of a permant model.
13-01-2004, 23:14
ok this is what i offer:

Anti Air:
The HAWK surface to air missile system (Outer area)
MIM-72 / M48 Chaparral Forward Area Air-Defense System [FAADS] (mobile)
Flack Cannons (citys and around citys)

Anti Ship:
Modified Mark 7 16-inch/50-caliber gun (180 decree turning Left to right)
Modified MK 45 5-inch / 54-caliber (lightweight) gun (180 decree turning left to right)

Anti Missile:
Modified MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS)
Patriot TMD
Boost-Phase Intercepters

we will place them anywere you want
13-01-2004, 23:15
ok this is what i offer:

Anti Air:
The HAWK surface to air missile system (Outer area)
MIM-72 / M48 Chaparral Forward Area Air-Defense System [FAADS] (mobile)
Flack Cannons (citys and around citys)

Anti Ship:
Modified Mark 7 16-inch/50-caliber gun (180 decree turning Left to right)
Modified MK 45 5-inch / 54-caliber (lightweight) gun (180 decree turning left to right)

Anti Missile:
Modified MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS)
Patriot TMD
Boost-Phase Intercepters

we will place them anywere you want
14-01-2004, 07:51
Ok Clone, your bid seems to be the best of what so long i have seen.
I will still wait at least this day(RL) and wait if more bid's are coming in.

Let the bidding continue
Kazakhstania
14-01-2004, 08:55
There are:

Two 30mm Anti Aircraft Artillery Units per km

These are Laser Aimed, and can be computer aimed.

One SAM-AA-3F batteries per three km.

Stats produced later.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107439&highlight=
Credonia
14-01-2004, 10:50
Ok Clone, your bid seems to be the best of what so long i have seen.
I will still wait at least this day(RL) and wait if more bid's are coming in.

Let the bidding continue


Thats not a complete missile defense, Far from it in fact. Credonia can give you a COMPLETE missile defense including one incorporating its new SDI Defense which we are currently designing. I wont be specific and say exactly will be in it (theres a lot) at this time, but it will incorporate a lot more than just anti-ship, anti-missile, and anti-air missiles.

Total Cost: $7 Billion (no strings attached)
North Stoneham
14-01-2004, 11:55
I will offer you:
SAM - BAE Systems Rapier 2000, cost $11 Bn for the entire system.
AShM - Boeing LGM - 84X, cost $19 Bn for entire system.
ABM - NS Aerospace GL - 4 Ground - based Laser system, cost $14 Bn for entire system.

This is a total cost of $44 Bn :D
14-01-2004, 15:18
Hmm well yes Credonia, i really dont now too much about Anti-missile protection, so thank you for that.

We really find your anti-missile system interesting, but are still going to wait for next morning before buying anything.

Oh and Kazakshtania you said that was a coastal defence system, but for me that seems mostly Air Def system.


Still let the bidding continue till tommorrow morning.

Prime Minister of Estolad Alencar Dahas
Kazakhstania
14-01-2004, 15:27
Alright, lets get serious.

We suggest:

Anti Ship

SAM-AA Batteries along cost, at 10 mile intervals.
: $1,000,000 each System

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/acimdcar.JPG

23mm Quick Fire High Velocity Cannons, at 2 mile intervals
:$ 300,000 each System

Brief Note

Snsor Targetted by a Computer, all the crew of two must do is designate a target. The computer will use Laser, Optical, Thermal and Heat Seeking sensors to track and target the enemy. An attached Joint Tactical Information Distrubution System passes info the other Flak Cannons and defense systems

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/uninen/uploads/Rf/sergei_95_600.jpg

Anti Ship

PowerHouse Anti Ship Missile System at 20 mile intervals
: $4,000,000 each system

http://www.onr.navy.mil/media/images/gallery/thumbs/scramjet/freejet_top.jpg

Note

A Scramjet, Radar Guided, one hit kills a carrier anti ship missile system. Impossible to stop once fired.

155mm Anti Ship Gun at two mile intervals
: $100,000 each gun

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/11marines_ii/images/155mm.gif

Note

GPS, Map Positioning and target arc targetted.

Anti Missile

S-400 Triumph at 25 mile intervals

http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/s300/s400(2).jpg

Note

300km range Anti Missile And Anti Air Missile System

AK-630 CIWS at 1 mile intervals

http://www.warships1.com/Weapons/WNRussian_30mm-54_ak-630_pic.jpg

Note

Fast Firing Anti Missile Gun

Any thing else?
14-01-2004, 15:43
That is starting to look like what ive been looking for.

There are only few blind spots remaining: Sorry for my bad english, but does "interval" mean what?

And i would like the Anti Ship Systems all along our coastline (see the map), Anti-Air mostly concentrated on our Major cities, and Anti Missile so that it covers our whole land.

Oh and they should be also capable of stopping incoming nuclear missiles outside our borders, so we wont get so much radioactive ---whatewer word---.

And if the Anti-Ship missiles are strong enough to take down a carrier size craft with one hit, were really liking this.


Oh and others, there's still time for you to make a better bid.


Prime Minister of Estolad, Alencar Dahas


EDIT* Oh and why are there also those SAM's Anti-Air Batterys and AA guns under Anti Ship?
Is that a mistake or did i just get something wrong?
Haukka
14-01-2004, 18:16
Isn't it impossible to make missile that destroys aircraft carrier by one hit you would need something like nuclear missile or such (really?). Because it makes one hole and big ships have those "lockers" in their sides so it can take one hole.
16-01-2004, 23:13
So is the def systems buolding proceeding Kazakshtania? I think you should igve me some more reference about that.
Kazakhstania
16-01-2004, 23:30
Ok.

My recommendation:

Coast: Coast lined with Anti Ship Systems, SAM-AA3's and CIWS systems.

Round all cities a SAM "blanket" covering ever mile of aerospace, and concentrated blankets around the towns of AA flak.

Borders lined with S-400 Anti Missile Systems, and SAM's.

I also suggest you add to the constraints some anti tank defenses and other stuff.

Estimated non-anti tank defenses: $39 Billion
17-01-2004, 13:59
Ok that sounds good. You have the deal.

But i do not need anti-tank defence, since i have my army doing that.

You may begin constructing that right now.