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African Defense Industries

Regards, potential customer!

African Defense Industries, a business native to the African Commonwealth, former Zaire, has seen much strife and conflict, and uses it's bountiful experience with contemporary combat systems to brings YOU the systems that can contend on the battlefields of today!

Inexpensive! - ADI operates in a nation that has no minimum wage laws, and the bounty of well-educated and hard-working personnel allows us to produce flawless, cutting-edge military hardware at(until now) impossibly low prices!

Original! - Designs are native to ADI and the Commonwealth brigade/naval officers who have taken their time to help us design them - No other place will you find these exceptional constructions!
((We have shamelessly stolen the pics from contemporary soviet and US systems, however ;)))

Innovative! - Reviewing the most frequent problems that plague contemporary units, we create new solutions to offer unit commanders the highest degree of flexibility.

Don't take our word for it, review our catalogue.

Hearty Regards,
The ADI Research and Marketing Team.

DISCLAIMER: As all responsible Arms Manufacturers, we have background checks on your nation's size and UN definition. We do not support terrorist actions on sovereign nations, and if we suspect a potential buyer is prone to such nefarious acts, we won't sell.
We also warn the economically indisposed small nations that might
want to buy a product that could shatter their economy.

SYSTEMS

ADI-N-66 SSN “Barracuda”
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Power Plant: Schmidt Motors reactor. One shaft at approx. 36,500 shp
Length: 110 metres(about 365 feet).
Beam: 10,5 metres(some 36 feet)
Displacement: 6213 metric tons, fully submerged.
Speed: in excess of 20 knots or 36.5 km/h when submerged.
Operational Depth: Greater than 900 feet.
Crew: 130. 13 officers, 117 enlisted.

Armament: 10 Vertical Launch Tubes, support for launching Harpoons, Tomahawks and the African T-130 cruise missile*

5 440-mm Torpedo tubes, support for US issue MK-48 and MK-50 ADCAP torpedoes, but default is the ADI MK-33 heavy torpedo**

Combat Systems:

AN/BPS-5 surface search radar
AN/BPS-15 A/16 navigation and fire control radar

AC-22D passive towed sonar array (subsystem of BQQ-5)
AC-23 passive "thin line" towed array (subsystem of BQQ-5)
AC/BQG-5D wide aperture flank array
AC/BQQ-5D/E low frequency spherical sonar array OR
AC/BSY-1 spherical bow array [on SSN-751 and later]
AC/BQS-15 close range active sonar (for ice detection)
KINGFISHER Mine and Ice Detection Avoidance System
ACDS-TS active detection sonar

Type 10 attack periscope (port)
Type 13a search periscope (starboard)

AC/CCY-1 (primary computer);

WLR-9 Acoustic Intercept Receiver
WLR-8(V)2 ES receiver
ACL-10 IFF (transponder only)

Link 11 Tactical data link
OTCIXS Tactical data link

*BGM-119B derivative. Range reduced to approx. 440 km, but hold a slightly bigger warhead of 460 kilogram HE. It is guided by inertial and active radars.
** Speed about 50 mph, Warhead of 300 kilograms HE.

The Barracuda is the African Commonwealth's answer to modern-era ASW/AS subs like the Los Angeles.

Receiving systems as well as surface, navigation and fire control radars are US systems produced under licence to allow the same high standards of fire control and target acquisition as American submarines.

Cost: 900,000,000 USD


ADI-AV-124B Eagle strategic transport/cargo plane
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Wing span: 240 ft, 5 in (73.3 m)
Length: 230 ft, 3 in (70 m)
Weight: 40 metric tons
Engines: 4 - Lotarev D-18T, 229.9 kN thrust each
Cruising Speed: 865 km/h
Range: 16,500 km maximum range, 4,500 km with maximum payload.
Service Ceiling: 12,500 m
Payload: 92 passengers or cargo in a 37m x 6.5 m x 4.5m (about 3030 cubic metres) cargo bay.
Crew: 6, 7 with loadmaster.

The Eagle strategic transport/cargo plane was created to replace the aging and obsolete AN-20 Coke transport planes the Commonwealth had used so far. It is based on a modified soviet AN-124 Condor chassis, but created with composite steels that allow it to climb higher to evade SAM fire, as well as being able to hold slightly more cargo and troops than it's predecessor.

Cost: 1,000,000,- USD


ADI-AV-33 Dedicated Attack Helicopter
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Height: 5.8 meters (gear extended)
Length (fuselage): 16.5 meters
Weight: 6400kg (empty), 8000 kg (fully armed and fueled)

Crew: 2 (pilot, Weapon's Officer/Navigator) seated in tandem

Engine: Twin GSX12-A44 turbines
Speed: 210 mph maintained(cruise), 215 maximum short burst speed
Rotor: 4 Blade SB-ARSHR

Rotor diameter: 14 meters

Vertical climb rate: 19 meters per second
Service ceiling: 4600 meters

Systems:
ALMRS/TTAC-03 system: Tracks up to 16 enemies and ranks them according to range, heading, threat level, and unit-type to provide best possible firing solution. Also computes MOA and other variables and automatically sets turret and missile coordinates to correct heading (when this feature is engaged) and can fire on up to four targets simultaneously.

ARENA: Scrambles enemy ATGM's radars and tracking systems.

AEISCN-01: Shares target information with other friendly units in the field along with other information, also allows friendly units in large numbers to make coordinated attacks through out the battlefield. Also allows friendly units to instantly reorganize into new squadrons and divisions for new assaults and also relays all information back to command. This system also checks in every 10 minutes (or shorter; can be adjusted) with GPS and military satellites to update terrain and enemy movements.

SB-ACDAMS-02: Anti-missile and countermeasure deployment system. Automatically launches countermeasures and scrambles enemy radar as well as providing the pilot with paths that provide a chance to out-maneuver the missile (not likely).

AHUD-3D: Advanced Heads-Up Display, displays all information about enemy unit including possible routes. Provides direct fire scenarios and target areas. Can be configured to cover entire window-area of cockpit.

FLIR, Laser Designator

Armament:
Hardpoints: 9 (1 under nose, two under body, six on wing pylons [three on each pylon]) (All countermeasures are housed in tail assembly and do not require a hardpoint)

Can be outfitted with:
S55-QB 12.7mm 4-barrel Chaingun or S55-QC 23mm twin-barrel cannon
Small-rocket rocket pods (57mm or 80mm)
AT-6C Spiral ATGMs (or any ATGM)
30 mm heavy cannons (mounted in wing pylon)
Anti-air missiles
Cost: $14.1 million USD

Description to come once we have combat reports!

ADI-AV-42 "B-Down" Heavy Bomber
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Contractor: Schmidt Motors and ADI Military Airplanes Co.
Power Plant: Eight Schmidt Aerospace TF33-P-3/103 turbofan
Thrust: Each engine up to 17,000 pounds (7,650 kilograms)
Length: 159 feet, 4 inches (48.5 meters)
Height: 40 feet, 8 inches (12.4 meters)
Wingspan: 185 feet (56.4 meters)
Speed: 650 miles per hour (Mach 0.86)
Ceiling: 50,000 feet (15,151.5 meters)
Weight: Approximately 185,000 pounds empty (83,250 kilograms)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 488,000 pounds (219,600 kilograms)
Range: Unrefueled 8,800 miles (7,652 nautical miles)

Armament: More than 32.000 kilograms worth of mixed ordnance: Bombs, mines and missiles. Are capable of carrying, including but not limited to: Unguided free-fall munitions in all weight classes, Guided Wind Control Munition-modified bombs, guided munitions, JDAM systems, all sorts of proximity, remote and inertial cluster mines, and all the air-to-surface and air-to-air missiles currently in use by the RCAF.

Combat systems:
U.S. AN/ALQ-117 PAVE MINT active countermeasures set
AC/ALM-142 false target generator
AC/ALM-173 tail warning set
AC/ALM-125 jammer Power Management System
AC/ALM-112(V)2 electronic countermeasures system
AC/ALR-20A Panoramic countermeasures radar warning receiver
AC/ALR-46 digital warning receiver
AC/ALT-32 noise jammer
ASACM-55 Chaff Dispenser
ASACM-58a Flare launcher.
Assorted ballistic software and communications.

Being a domestic modification of the B-52 Stratofortess, the "B(eat)-Down" heavy bomber is, if possible, an even more terrifying bomber than its mother design. ADI aerospace have designed every single bomb bay and combat system(save the U.S.A.F. PAVE MINT Active Countermeasures set produced under licence) themselves, and time will tell wether they have succeeded in creating an engine of destruction superior to the B-52. Some armour have been added to the wings, and a larger munition bay enables the B-Down to carry in excess of 32.000 kilograms(32 metric tons!) of bombs, mines and missiles.

Unit Cost: 30,000,000 USD.

ADI-A60 "Rhino" APC.
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---Chassis specifics:---
Length - 191.5"
Width - 105.75"
Height - 86.5"
Clearance - 16"
---Weight specifics:---
Weight, combat loaded: 27,180 lb. (12,329 kg)
Maximum weight: 31,000 lb. (14,061 kg)
Net weight: 23,880 lb. (10,832 kg)
Air drop weight: 22,128 lb. (10,037 kg)
Personnel capacity: 2 crewmen + 12 soldiers.
---Engine---
Make and model: Schmidt motors Diesel 6V53T
Displacement: 318 in.3 (5.2 liter)
Fuel: Diesel (DF2)
Rated horsepower: 275 hp
---Performance---
Speed on land: 41 mi/h (66 km/h)
Speed in water, with track: 3.6 mi/h (5.8 km/h)
Cruising range: 300 mi (483 km)
Turning radius: Pivot to infinite
Trench crossing: 66 in. (168 cm)
Vertical wall climbing: 24 in. (61 cm)
---Armament, armor and Systems---
Fixed gun: 50 cal MG 2,000 ready rds.
Basic hull: 5083 Aluminum
Bolt-on armour kit: Titanium armour
Mine armour: Steel armour
Gun shield kit: Steel armour
Spall suppressant: Composite panel
Systems: 2 fire extinguishers, automatic transmission, detachable rubber pad tracks for amphibious capability. 2 Spare track wheels.

The ADI-A60 "Rhino" APC is based on a modified U.S. M113 APC chassis. With mobility comparable to the M113, but with slightly larger crew compartment and heavier armour, the Rhino is a force to contend with in infantry combat situations. Contact ADI for buying the following custom variants of the Rhino: Medical Evacuation APC, Chaparral SAM-launcher APC and breaching ram APC. Update: All Rhinos now come with 2 spare track wheels, as combat reports note that once a track wheel is seriously damaged, controlling the APC becomes nigh-impossible.

Unit cost: Approx. 1.5 million USD. Varies with customization.

ADI-A72 Anti-Air tracked armoured vehicle.
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---Specifications---
Crew: 4
Weight: 34,7 metric tonnes.
Chassis: Modified soviet GM-352M tracked vehicle blueprint.
Chassis Length overall: 7.95 metres.
Height w/ TAR up: 4.02 metres.
Width overall: 3.30 metres
Automotive performance:
Engine: Schmidt motors V-13e Turbo Diesel
Cruising range: 500 kilometers
Speed: Road: 65 km/h, Not amphibious capable.
Radio: ADI-Intsys model 52 long-wave transmission system.

Armaments:
Elevation: -10 to + 87° (-/+)
Fire on the move?: yes.
Reload time: Gun ammunition and missiles in about 14 min at most.
Primary: SA-19(Grison) AA missile.
Maximum range: 8.000-10.000 metres
Minimum range: 2,500 metres
Max. Altitude: 3,500 metres
Min. Altitude: 15 metres
Length: 2.83
Weight: 57 kilogram, in container
Missile Speed: 600-900 metres per second
Guidance: SACLOS
Seeker Field of View: None, passive.
Tracking Rate: None.
Warhead Type: Frag-HE
Warhead Weight: 9 kilogram
Fuze Type: Proximity
Self-Destruct: Not capable
System Reaction Time: 6-12 seconds

Second: 32mm ADI-AA cannon(modified soviet 2A38M)
Rate of fire: 4,800 rounds pr minute(four gun total)
Types: AP-T, Frag-T, HE-I
Range (metres)
Max. Range: 4,000
Min. Range: 200
Altitude (metres)
Max. Altitude: 3,000
Min. Altitude: 0
Sights w/magnification: Stabilized optical sight 1A29M
Magnification: 8x
Radars:
HOT SHOT radar system
Name 1RL144 (TAR)
Function: Target Acquisition
Detection Range(km): 18-20
Name: 1RL144M (TTR)
Function: Target Tracking
Detection Range(km): 16

Auxillary systems:
Nuclear/Biological/Chemical protection suite, Warhammer AMCM, mobile missile tracking software.

The ADI-A72 is a new anti-air tracked platform based on the 2S6M Tunguska anti-air platform. While CAF still uses the Tunguska, plants are churning out these new models in steadily increasing numbers. Still using the combination of SA-19 SAMs and quadruple AA cannons, there is no "Dead Zone" in which aircraft may by-pass this deadly anti-air artillery. Extensive modifications have been made, fitting the craft with heavier 32mm AA guns, a heavier engine and new target acquisition software that allows for limited fire-on-move capability for the SA-19, allowing the platform to engage aircraft that stay out of firing range. Primarily for protecting armour and infantry against low-altitude fighter attacks, the ADI-A72 is very versatile and promises to protect CAF forces for years to come!

Cost of unit: 4,000,000 USD with ammonition loaded.

T-90-ADI49 “Thumper” Artillery Tank.
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Power Plant: 8-cylinder turbocharged diesel, 1200 hp
Max Speed: 60 km/h(37 mph)
Weight: 50 metric tons.
Crew: 3
Length of Hull: 7 metres estimated.
Width: 3.4 metres estimated.
Height, top of turret: 2 metres.
Range: 400 km, road.
Vertical obstacle: 0.85 metres
Trench: 3 metres.
Armament: one 155mm smoothbore, multi-chambered “Close-up” Howitzer gun.
one 12.7mm machine gun
one 7.62mm machine gun
2 x 4 smoke grenade dischargers
Extra systems: reaction armour, long-range target acquisition radar, commlinks and a laser-based, anti-tank guided missile countermeasure.


The T-90-ADI49 is, the story goes, a result of Commonwealth tank commanders claiming they could not knock out heavy modern assault tanks with but one shot. Innovative RAC commanders and private arms manufacturer scientists joined forces to create the “Thumper”, using a customized Chinese Type-90-II heavy MBT as the base, then adding better armour and replacing the default 125mm smoothbore cannon with a domestically produced modified Howitzer artillery cannon. This innovative gun is designed to fire 155m shaped-charge HEAP round relatively short ranges(although it can make Indirect Fire missions as well, and has GPS support with which is can launch shells with decent accuracy at targets within up to 30 kilometers!) with great power, to support MBTs during close quarters tank fights. Its multi-chamber loading feed allows it to fire both US, Chinese and NATO 155mm HEAP rounds, adding a greater versatility to those armies that do not employ Chinese munitions. The ability to use the 155mm outside Indirect Fire warfare, makes this tank a threat against any conceivable armoured opponent. The gun does however have a minimum effective range of 150 metres, within that the targeting radar will not be able to get a proper fix, and therefore it is recommended that the T-90-ADI49 has regular armour escorts.

While designed to destroy enemy MBTs and other armour in close quarters, the Thumper also accepts HE, HE-FRAG and HEDP 155mm slugs, and is therefore also ideal to support infantry with short-range direct fire artillery.

Cost: 4,000,000 USD

ADI-M50 "Super Howitzer" self-propelled indirect fire cannon.
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Combat weight: 51.5 metric tons
Power-to-weight ratio: 30 horsepowers per 0.9 tonne.
Maximum hard road speed: 40 mph
Maximum cross-country speed: 20 mph
Main armament: 300mm cannon.
Secondary armament: 0.50 caliber M2 machine gun.
Ammunition: 50 projectiles(300mm), 1500 0.50 APDS bullets.
Max. effective range: 40 kilometers using GPS-guided light HE-Frag shells.
Maximum rate of fire: 10-12 rounds/minute for 3-5 minutes.
ADI-M50S spifc resupply jeep
Combat weight: 39.9 metric tons.
Ammonition: 100 300mm shells, 2000 0.50 APDS bullets.
Resupply: Manually upload 100 300mm shells in approx. 60 minutes of hard exertion,
or use electrical feed for loading 100 300mm shells and 2000 0.50 bullets in approx. 28 minutes.

The ADI-M50, affectionally dubbed the "Super Howitzer" by artillery commanders who use them, is a self-propelled artillery piece that launches guided munitions in excess of 30 kilometers. It has support for all ADI munitions(He-Frag, APDS and HEAT as standard), including white phospherous, napalm, chemichal/biological capsule dispersal warheads and HEAP.

Cost of 1 ADI-M50 with one resupply jeep: 3,700,000 USD.

Zulu Warrior Rocketry
A formerly secret project under the old dictatorship, Zulu Warrior rocketry now offers the finest in AA, SAM, ATGM and ballistic missiles to the world! A word from project leader Nolo Arthur:

""We're certainly intending to export these potent missiles, and orders can already be placed. However, we reserve the right to perform analysis of requesting nations' society and government, and also to reject them forthright if we believe they will use our armament for purposes that do not behoove our foreign policy."

Missiles currently for sale:

The Zulu Warrior strikes again! Today the new "Black Titan" Inter Continental Ballistic Missile was unveiled as the African Commonwealth has finished it's first ICBM - Many more are thought to be under construction, and this ICBM is also for sale. At the modest price of 2.1 billion apiece, nations ready for the responsibility of inter-continental missile capability can gain a missile with following impressive statistics:

Length: 30.2 metres
Launch Weight(armed): 100.5 metric tons
Payload: Single warhead Mk 4 RV
Warheads: Can be adapted for various weapons. 37 tons conventional HE, Unspecified chemichal/biological containment warhead or a W-38 240 kiloton nuclear warhead.
Guidance: Normally radio or inertia-guided, but can be converted to guide via GPS or GLONASS systems.
Propulsion: 2-stage liquid.
Range: approx. 11.050 kilometers.
Accuracy: within 900 metres of designated target
Contractor: Zulu Warrior Rocketry, African Commonwealth.

The first Zulu Warrior production, the ADI-R6 "Long Spear" IRBM remains a contender on the stand-off battlefields of today! Able to carry a variety of payloads, and exceedingly accurate, the Long Spear is a force to contend with! Price is 16.2 million, but ADI offers bulk discounts on the ADI-R6.

Length(m): 32.0
Body Diameter(m): 2.4(First stage)
Launch Weight(kg): 60,000
Payload: Single warhead 1,000kg
Warhead: 1000kg HE-Frag, alternatively 800 litre chemichal/biological containment warhead, 50 kiloton nuclear warhead or 600 litre napalm capsule dispersal warhead.
Guidance: Inertia, also configurable for radar control, laser designation radars and GPS control.
Propulsion: 2-stage liquid
Range(km): 3,500-6,000
Accuracy: To within 150 metres of designated target.

Light tactical missiles:

Need a next-generation anti-armour missile? Enter the ADI-R22//ATGM-2 "Talon"! Improvements have been made upon a contemporary US design, the Javelin ATGM, to create a far-reaching missile that can live up to the threat engagement and lethality expectations that ATGM warfare today demands! A whole ATGM with optional bipod, tracking screen and instruction manual sells for 700 dollars a set.

Weight: 28.5 kg
Length: 1.82 meters
Range: 2060 m (max) 74 m (min)
Guidance: Laser-riding SACLOS, alternative firing mode employs flash radar.
Warhead Type: HEAT, two-pronged stabilized ADI-M5 ATGM charge.
Warhead Weight: 8.8 kg
Armor Penetration: 800+ mm, is capable of defeating second generation explosive reaction armour, possibly also third if it is not too heavy.
Launching Platforms: man portable, may be mounted on various DAH, jeeps or halftracks. Firing crew of 2.


Small arms:

M22 Assault rifle w/ M6B 40mm grenade launcher.
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(portrayed without 40mm grenade launcher)
caliber: 5x56mm NATO
Fire modes: single, semi-automatic, three-round burst and full automatic.
secondary fire: Single shot, 40mm HE-frag, incendiary or proximity delay grenade.
Magazine capacity: 20 or 40 rounds standard.
Rate of fire: 815 rounds per minute.
Max. effective range: 565 meters.
Price: 810 USD for rifle, grenade launcher and maintenance kit.

The M22 is an ADI clone of the ever-popular M16A2 assault rifle, modified to meet the requirements of the Commonwealth Armed Forces. Sporting a larger magazine, increased effective range and rate of fire, the M22 is somewhat less maintenable and harder to clean than its mother design, but the high standard of the M22 support kit(one comes free with every rifle bought) remedies this. Included is an ADI M6B universal assault rifle 40mm launcher, that can fire 3 different kinds of grenades, giving soldiers the much needed indirect fire support they need if cut off from friendly forces in the field, or just need to pile on the offense. The M6B supports High Explosive-Frag munitions, incendiary white phosphorous grenades, and as something new, the proximity grenade! Based on C4 semtex with a fragmentation ring and sensor on the top, this grenade will lay dormant where fired until an enemy soldier treads on or near it - incapacitating or killing the target.

Soon to come: "Dark Wave" Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile!

BUMP!

i will buy 200 ADI-AV-33 Dedicated Attack Heliecopter and 100 ADI-AV-124B Eagle strategic transports. money wired on confirmation

Your background check has come up most satisfactory.

The order has come up to 2,920,000,000 US Dollars, and your order is confirmed!

A few days will go as we manufacture the last of the Eagles, and then the entire order will be transported to Little Old Britannia.

Thank you for selecting African Defense Industries!

/Accounting dept.

*money wired*

Pleasure doing business with you. If your products fulfill are needs we may buy more of your products.

Hattia is interested in the T-90-ADI49 “Thumper” Artillery Tank.

We will not purchase it as long as your nation has no minimum wage laws. If you do institute minimum wage laws, Hattia will buy very large amounts of the "Thumper". Perhaps we can come to a deal...

We are sorry to inform Hattia that due to the pressed state of the Commonwealth((OOC: It is currently embroiled in a cold war with other major powers of the region)), we can not as a private company challenge the government's policy until there is relative peace again.

Are there not some other way in which we can convince the government of Hattia that they should purchase our products? We are even willing to lend "Thumpers" to the Hattian military, that they may try out its awesome prowess for themselves!

There is nothing preventing Hattia's government from freezing the money saved by shopping with our country, and paying them in bonus to African workers when we re-instate minimum wage laws - Our government can easily handle that?

Regards,
/ADI, Marketing
and
/The Foreign Relations and Defense councils, African Commonwealth.

Your solution seems feasible. We have actually been working on a similar project, except with a 130mm gun. We will purchase 5 to use in combat tests. If they pass, we will order more.

money wired upon confirmation

20,000,000 USD it is. Order confirmed and shipped.

We used the 155mm because it was the primary artillery round of the Commonwealth and it's allies. Besides scoring almost certain destruction when used against tanks, the howitzer can also perform devastating indirect fire missions at targets up to 25-30 kilometers away.

The "Thumper" performed well at combat tests. Though it was slower than our T-90Hs. It could also destroy them in one hit. Though we generally like to use domestically developed weaponry. We will purchase 300. Are we allowed to produce these ourselves. If not, we would be interested in buying production rights.

As previously stated, the T-90-ADI49 benefits from infantry/regular MBT support, although it performs well alone in long-distance scenarios too, outgunning contemporary MBTs by far.

EDIT: While we may be interested in selling production rights to ADI products in the future, for now we do not. At least, not until the AC economy is fully revived.

Order confirmed. Enjoy your purchase!

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((OOC>> Don't make me post another CYBORG bump...))

The acquisition of helicopter technology has long been on DaKhiem's list of military wants. Unfortunately the republic has no experience of building such, and has only ever encountered the technology as its victim during the Three Day War with Quinntonia.

With a handful of ASW helicopters purchased from the Russian Federation and the victory scored by these against an enemy D/E submarine at Kosong the republic's interest has been renewed.

The ADI-AV-33 Dedicated Attack Helicopter fielded by one of the few states with which DaKhiem has ever been willing to do business certainly caught the military's eye.

However, Dra-pol is insistant that it must produce the vast majority of its military equipment at home -it is the only way to sustain such a huge force as the republic does without destroying the isolated economy.

The Central Directorature made its interest known to Kinshasa, stating that Dra-pol would be willing to purchase some ADI-AV-33s DAHs if there was any chance of negotiating production rights or developing a domestic cousin.

Also remembered were the heavy lift helicopters flown by the Commonwealth when bringing aid to beseiged Dra-pol. These, DaKhiem felt, would be ideal for the republic's internal use, given the terrain and lack of infrastructure.

On top of all this the remains of Dra-pol's old Coast Guard command piped-up in the hopes of convincing DaKhiem to pursue assistance in developing D/E submarines of its own. The nuclear submarines offered by the Commonwealth would be rather above the budget of the neglected coast guard, and of dubious value to the isolationist nation.

ADI is more than willing to allow production of a domestic ADI-AV-33 DAH model, given a fitting monetary compensation of course.

As for the tarhe 'Skycrane' Heavy-duty Lift helicopters, we can spare but 5 that have been sacked from regular military duty. They will cost between 3.5 and 7 million USD apiece, depending on their equipment configuration. All the Skycranes can lift in excess of 20.000 pounds, however.

As many of the naval warfare experts used in designing the SSN Barracuda are still in Port Banan, perhaps we could lend their assistance to Dra-Pol in designing a medium D/E Submergible craft of their own?

Regards,
ADI

Order of BUMPness...

no chemical or biological weapons? bah

Why would the ADI wish to sell its awesome weapons of mass destruction, when it needs a deterrant? Certainly we would not give it to a truculent nation such as yourself, no matter the cost.

If it matters that much to the crass nation of Holy panooly, one of our sister companies, Zulu Warrior rocketry, sells ICBM, IRBM, SLBM and also the destructive warheads they employ:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81544&highlight=

That's it... You gone and made me do it.

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The Central Directorature conveys the republic's wish to acquire the five available Skycranes, expecting that eventually a native equivalent will be produced.

The CPRD also wishes to purchase twenty-four (24) ADI-AV-33 Dedicated Attack Helicopters and to secure production data and rights for same aircraft.

(If you like we can just consider that some sort of royalty will be paid on the first x-number of helicopters built in Dra-pol. I'm not entirely sure what the norm would be in reality. To be honest Dra-pol would probably just have bought one or two, then a few years from now anyone insane enough to sneak into the republic would see hundreds of strikingly similar aircraft buzzing about, but.. oh well ;) )

We at Kihameria would like to purchase 1000(one-thousand) ADI-AV-124B Eagle strategic transport/cargo plane's
1000x 1,000,000 $=1,000,000,000(one-billion) $.
~-money wired-~

Dra-Pol>> Confirmed and sent - The total bill comes to 363,4 million USD. As an exceptional discount, we will release the productions rights to the CPRD free of charge, expecting to see some bountiful returns on all our government has aided Dra-Pol with.

Kihameria>> We usually crossref unknown nations, but transport planes can hardly hurt anyone, now can they? Order confirmed and sent.

the Republic would like new monetary contractors(who pay cash.).

((OOC: This can surely take another bump!))

Dear Sirs,

Please advise the cost of the ADI-AV-42 "B-Down" Heavy Bomber as it is not listed within the general specifications.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti

30 million U$D. The catalogue has been updated, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

ADI, marketing.

30 million U$D. The catalogue has been updated, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

ADI, marketing.

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your quick response. We wish to purchase 500 ADI-AV-42 "B-Down" Heavy Bomber at a total cost of USD 15.00 Billion.

Monies will be automatically wired upon confirmation of order.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti

While order could technically be confirmed right away, it is ADI policy to inform the Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti that such a large-scale military purchase will put a sizable strain on the thriving, 98 million population economy.

Do you wish to go ahead?

While order could technically be confirmed right away, it is ADI policy to inform the Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti that such a large-scale military purchase will put a sizable strain on the thriving, 98 million population economy.

Do you wish to go ahead?

Dear Sirs,

We understand this is a large order; however, we feel it is not outside the scope of our military budget.

As the following link will show : http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=shang-ti&defenseprovided=1&defense=10&militarybudget=10

Our current military budget is $79 Billion. We set aside 25% of our yearly military budget (in this case $20 Billion) for new product acquisition. The remaining military budget goes towards maintenance and salaries (50%) and R&D (25%). As we have developed a formidable Navy already, our focus is on building a modernized Air Force.

As you can see, a $15 Billion purchase for 500 of your bombers is well within our 25% New Acquisition budget of $20 Billion.

However, if you still have reservations, we are perfectly happy to split the order into two NS years of 250 plans each, or $7.5 Billion for two-years.

We await your reply.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti

That clears it up. Your order is confirmed but will take approx. a month for our plants to produce, after which it will be shipped promptly. Our apologies for the inconvenience.

ADI, Marketing.

2S6 Tunguska-based AAA platform tank, the ADI-A72 is now added to the catalogue for your every mobile anti-air support need ;)

As we need to transform half of our infantry to motorized infantry, we would like to buy 25.000 ADI-A60 "Rhino" APC's.

This is a big order, we are aware of that and we can give you up to 10 years to finish the shipment.

Money transferd in cash, on coördinates enclosed in this message. Let us know when the first 3750 million can be handed over to you.

Thank you for your order!

With new industrialization initiatives implemented by the benevolent Secular Party, we should be able to handle the entire order in 3, possibly 4, years.

Would you like the order to contain variants, such as SAM carrier or Medical Evacuation APCs? Considering the order, we offer all variants at the standard APC model price.

Regards,
ADI, Marketing.

Hm, that is tempting....fine, throw me in 500 of those medical APC's(pack them, put a ribbon around it and we got a deal) My budget is big enough so just let me know wat its going to cost me.

*inocent look*

TAG

Roycelandia is interested in Modernising some of our Helicopter Fleets, especially since there's a limit to the amount of weapons an Iroquois can carry.

Your Helicopter Gunship designs are most interesting, and accordingly the Imperial Defence Bureau wishes to purchase 120 of them for the Imperial Navy, Colonial Air Force (REA and CPI), and general Defence Duties.

We await your response with interest

[signed] Commander Jack Sword, Imperial Defence Bureau

Dumpsterdam>> The price for your requested amount of the regular "Rhino" APC model stands. The first increment can be send forthwith.

Roycelandia>> Your request is noted, but it is with great regret we inform you that we are under order from the Secular Party to delay military transactions with the Roycelandian Empire until further notice.

ADI, Marketing.

We buy 50 ADI-A72 and 50 Thumpers.
Total of 400 million standard dollars will be wired upon confirmation

no offence but how can you call a bunch of pictures of extremely well known American and Russian systems 'original' ?

Shadowmoon clan>> Confirmed, but you shall have to wait a year or so for arrival. We are currently slightly overbooked.

ooc

UE>> Look closer. All systems are designed by myself, and there is an OOC notice in the opening post noting that all pictures of the designs have been nicked from US and Russian designs that are similar in appearance.

The Imperial Defence Bureau is disappointed by the Secular Party's unwillingness to trade, but given the situation in both the AC and Southern Africa at the moment, it is understandable and we shall assume no insult was intended.

Perhaps if we were to "accidentally" leave a suitcase full of Common Credits, Imperial Wibbles, and US Dollars on the desk, duck off to the gents, and come back to find an identical suitcase full of Plans and Technical Designs for the choppers in its place?

OOC: It's not a bribe, it's a Consultancy Fee! :D

That would naturally depend on the amount of currency included, and on wether the empire can sign a testimony that these DAH craft will not be deployed in Gabon or any other theatre in which they might engage CAF.

Regards,
Secular Party.

This message will self-destruct in 3...2...1...

*transfers money via face to face cashtransfer*

Let me know when you're ready with those APC's I got some more deliveries for you.

Feazanthia wishes to expand its land-based weapon systems. We wish to purchase the following.

300 T-90-ADI49 “Thumper” Artillery Tanks

total cost:1,200,000,000

Feazanthia>> Order confirmed and shipped in about half a year.

OOC:

Dumpsterdam>> Well, and in-character year is sort of 12 real days, so just wait a week or so and order again, it'll be fine. My economy and production power is growing anyway.

How about a Briefcase containing USD$200 million (OK, it's either a very big briefcase or some very large denomination notes...)

We have no problem signing an agreement to the fact that the AC Choppers won't be deployed in Gabon. No, we have far more interesting plans for them... :D

That would be in ANY theatre, now or in the future, in which Roycelandian forces can possibly face the CAF.

Regards,
S. Party.

That's fine, we can agree not to use the AC choppers in any theatre of operations where we might encounter AC forces.

We've acquired a new colony (Glimmer Twins) and need to get some Choppers into the territory, as the current defence situation could use a bit on an overhaul... (The others in the region are friendly, but somewhat isolationist... Roycelandia is the only non-regional power in the area, so we need to look the part.) :D

The Secular Party has approved of the transaction, with the small 'but' that we do not accept a sale of production plans. We will gladly sell the original 120 or more dedicated attack gunships, however. You still game?

/S. Party.

Yup, we're in! You'll find the money in a Samsonite Briefcase, in the stall next to the Urinal at the far end of the Men's Room in Kinshasha Central Railway Station. Tell the attendant that you're with Samson on the way out and you'll have no trouble :D

-IDB Foreign Purchases Division

Roycelandia>> Done deal.

Look for a combined storefront on this page soon, where we also sell our short/intermediate/intercontinental range ballistic missiles, as well as SAMs and submarine-launchable ballistic munitions - We are arguably the best missile manufacturer out there!

The ARSB would like to purchase 250 ADI-A72 Anti-Air tracked armoured vehicles. Money will be wired upon confirmation of order.

Spasiba.

Order most graciously confirmed.

Should the Soviet Bloc red army feel the need for more first-class military hardware, it knows where to look!

/ADI, marketing.

Bump for the addition of the ADI-M50 "Super Howitzer" !

The Kilean Laandsmacht is going to require some 10,000+ Rhino APC's in the near future. Combat experience has shown the BMP's to be deathtraps, as well as lacking in transport capacity. The Rhino seems to fit our criteria rather well. We are looking at equipping at least 10-15 new divisions with the Rhino for service in Dibujante. We know this is a bit much to ask, but as an ally, we ask that production be expanded for this order.

<OOC: that RP will pick up again!<OOC>

Considering the considerable number of manufacturing plants currently customized for ADI-A60 "Rhino" production, our capability to produce these APC is more than large enough to handle this order in a maximum time frame of two years, although 15 months is the current expected deadline. Ordre confirmed!

ooc

I hope so - you ever got hold of Dibujantes player?

Ah, yes the DAF are coming to shop again with you, another 15.000 Rhino APC's please, they preformed excelent hurtling our infantry divisions forward towards the enemy and cutting of garrisons.

And I am still waiting for those 5.000 medical carriers....(giftrapped and all :lol: he its for my daughter. :P )

Excellent! All ordered APCs will be ready in but 6 months due to our new defense-industrial structural reforms - Several new plants have been built and readied for the production of armoured vehicles.

Regards,
ADI, Marketing.

OOC:

Edit: Changed the caliber of the Super Howitzer - it's a tad larger than I wrote it was - enjoy!

Yes, a little BUMP is all I need...

Hmm, a while back when I purchased a bunch of the Thumpers. You said you wouldn't sell the production rights until your economy was more stable. If it is still not in good shape, perhaps we could arrange a 'economic stimulus package' to come your way in exchange for production rights...?

The High command loves these. There has been a lot of fighting among the generals about who gets to command these.

If not. We would like to purchase 500 more Thumpers...

While economic growth has been somewhat stable thus far, it has been crimped by a terrible counter-imperialist war inside the Gabonaise republic. Producing the Thumpers will demand refitting and changing production lines to make the artillery tank.

This, we would like to avoid. However, production rights for the Thumper will, by no means, be cheap. We should like to know how much they are worth to Hattia?

/ADI, Marketing and Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
African Commonwealth.

Hmm, is 700 million USD an acceptable amount...?

700 million USD is indeed an acceptable number. The plans will arrive by bonded courier with escort from Commonwealth Armed forces upon completion of transaction. Included are plans for creating the unique multi-chambered loading feed mechanism, that may be integrated in other, domestic-built, tanks if you prefer.

Regards,
ADI, Marketing,
African Commonwealth state and military departments.

this one could most certainly use a wee' BUMP.

i would like to buy all the tanks you have and would like 500 of each the money will be transferd when the dell is trough

Hedgeling>> Even if this order does not include half-track APCs and Howitzer models, we doubt a nation of your size and economy could order models of such a magnitude without suffering a sizable dent on your economy. Thank you for choosing ADI, but we cannot assist you this moment.

200 ADI-M50 "Super Howitzer" self-propelled indirect fire cannon.

Please send conformation of order

Order confirmed. Enjoy your purchase, and do inform us of any problems or technical glitches you may encounter with our artillery.

Once again, our mechanised forces are expanding and we are in need of more of the Rhino APC, the APC has been a very good vehicle. protecting DAF forces and carrying them into the heat of more then 6 warzones so far.

We would like to place another order for 30.000 APC's and another 55.000 if you could confirm out first order.

Money will be wired upon confirmation, price set at 127.500.000.000 USD.

The Republic of Anime-Otakus wishes to procure 100 ICBMs. The Republic also wonders if it is possible to cooperate with your nation on the development of reduced-size ICBMs suited for air-launches?

OOC: hope I'm not sounding too confused here. :P

Dumpsterdam>> First and second order both confirmed. With our newly-gained Frightening production power, construction should take little more than a year, perhaps less.

We're considering retro-fitting some of our own Rhinos with first generation reactive armor, so that they may withstand 152mm airburst shells and direct RPG-7 hits, much like a Stryker IAV. Would Dumpsterdam be interested in such a program?

That being said, do let us know(preferably with links) how our 'Rhinos' are performing in battle.

Anime-Otakus>>

Confirmed. Would you like to negotiate purchase of alternate warheads for those Black Titans? Our engineers are also offering contracts to build hardened shelters for those ICBM - leaving them out in the open will mean you won't have them for long..

We are currently quite satisfied with our own "strike surge" air-launchable cruise missiles, in lieu of ICBM usage. We suggest you look into Sparrows, Tomahawks or the like to meet your air-to-ground missile needs.

Bump for the splendid new M22 assault rifle!

The Empire of Roycelandia will be observing the sale and development of the M-22 with interest.

We'd also like to point out that a .303 bullet has an effective range of 1km, compared to the 300m or so of the 5.56mm round. :D

How much would it be worth to you not to sell weapons to Dra-Pol?

OOC>>

Kilean>> Considering the major source of revenue it ISN'T, probably not a lot. However, the Secular party has a deal(unknown to everyone, Kilean included) supplying Dra-pol with automatic guns, but mostly ammonition and artillery shells, in return for post-war trade and some rebuilding contracts with the CPRD.

I suppose that if the ISD could dig out the information, the Secular party could be bought for a rather small sum and the promise of silence ;)

Roycelandia>> That's what we got the Howitzers and cruise missiles for, silly. A rifle is needed up close, and the M22's rate of fire will rip your single-shot rifle-equipped regiments a new one ;)

OOC: The Lee-Enfield isn't single shot. It's a Bolt-Action, with a 10 round mag and a big shiny feck-off bayonet. :D

You may also have noted the FN-FALs a lot of our Border Patrols in "High Risk" areas are armed with... :wink:

IC: The Roycelandian Government is interested in your M-22 Assault Rifle and would like to purchase 20 for Trials Purposes.

If adopted, we would issue them to the Imperial Police Armed Offenders Squad- they wouldn't be going anywhere near the Imperial Guard.

OOC>> Hmm.. If I might give a strictly technical analysis, I suggest you start replacing the Lee-Enfields with dedicated semiautomatic rifles - While it has an edge over pump/single shot weapons, the manual reloading time will kill you against anyone toting the simplest of semi-auto rifles. Also, make the bayonets clip-on so you only have to use them during physical confrontations, because unless they're pretty slim they will impair your ability to shoot straight.

Why not start phasing the M1 Garand or somesuch into your army? Range is(well, not nearly, but somewhat) comparable, but I can't help but suspect you will not use anything that ain't purely British ;)

In that case, I suppose you could use a little-known prototype that were designed by Britain, but never used after world war one - The experimental Rifle .303 Mk III ESL(Experimental Self-Loading). While it did have some problems with accuracy and maintenance, it was an effective fully semi-automatic .303 rifle. I'm sure Roycelandian army scientists could straighten out the kinks, right?

And yus, FN FALs are the shit. I use them aplenty with my insurgency regiments in Red Scandinavia, but you'll find out soon enough, I wager ;)

IC>>

While the ADI would normally question the prudence of putting fully automatic assault rifles with grenade launchers into the hands of convicted criminals, it really doesn't care in the face of huge profits to come - The order was quickly confirmed, and as a bonus a design consultant were shipped along to help with any usage or maintenance problems that could occur with this completely new design.

(The Armed Offenders Squad is the Imperial Police equivalent of a SWAT or STAR Team- they aren't the criminals!)

The Roycelandian Lee-Enfield Mk III, the No. 5 Jungle Carbine, and the Self-Loading Lee-Enfield all have blade bayonets (the Mk III and the SLLE use the Pattern '07).

And I'll see your Mk III ESL and raise you a Charlton Automatic Rifle! It's basically a full-auto SMLE. Designed by a New Zealander, the rifle was never adopted because of the cost. However, several experimental models were made by both Charlton himself and Electrolux, of all people, here in Australia.

It was never adopted because of the cost issues, and after WWI no-one saw any real need for a Semi-Auto Rifle.

Most of the prototypes were destroyed in a warehouse fire in the 1930s, and by the time decent rifles were needed, WWII was underway and the Defence Department really didn't have the time or inclination to go mucking around with experimental semi-auto rifles when the SMLE could be made quickly and inexpensively in Australia.

Anyway, there are only 3 Charlton Automatic Rifles left- one of them in the Waioru Army Museum in New Zealand, the other is at the Lithgow Small Arms Museum in Australia, and the British Pattern Room in the UK has one.

Anyway, I'll stop hijacking your storefront, and start considering the issue of the SLLE to our troops... :wink:

(The Armed Offenders Squad is the Imperial Police equivalent of a SWAT or STAR Team- they aren't the criminals!)

The Roycelandian Lee-Enfield Mk III, the No. 5 Jungle Carbine, and the Self-Loading Lee-Enfield all have blade bayonets (the Mk III and the SLLE use the Pattern '07).

And I'll see your Mk III ESL and raise you a Charlton Automatic Rifle! It's basically a full-auto SMLE. Designed by a New Zealander, the rifle was never adopted because of the cost. However, several experimental models were made by both Charlton himself and Electrolux, of all people, here in Australia.

It was never adopted because of the cost issues, and after WWI no-one saw any real need for a Semi-Auto Rifle.

Most of the prototypes were destroyed in a warehouse fire in the 1930s, and by the time decent rifles were needed, WWII was underway and the Defence Department really didn't have the time or inclination to go mucking around with experimental semi-auto rifles when the SMLE could be made quickly and inexpensively in Australia.

Anyway, there are only 3 Charlton Automatic Rifles left- one of them in the Waioru Army Museum in New Zealand, the other is at the Lithgow Small Arms Museum in Australia, and the British Pattern Room in the UK has one.

Anyway, I'll stop hijacking your storefront, and start considering the issue of the SLLE to our troops... :wink:

Thank you for confirming, money has been deliverd per courier to the usual destination.

On the part of upgrading the armour on the rhino, we would be interested, but that depends on how much the price goes up with the new modifications.

As for preformances, one of our mechanised divisions is stationed in Lenarch as a peace keeping force, we will provide you with the information this unit generats.

That will be all,

Lord Rift signing for the best of the DAF.

OOC:

LOL... It seems there's no piece of historical British armaments you haven't got down to pat, is there now? I've been meaning to ask before, but what IS a SMLE? I've heard about it in several threads now, but I've no idea what it is.

But hey, just keep using the bolt-action, it'll make my job shooting up your regiments so much easier when you finally decide to annex the rest of Africa ;)

IC:
Dumpsterdam>> We won't really know yet, as most of our resources are going towards design and development of the "Okapi" Interim Armoured Vehicle - When the upgrade comes around, we'll be sure to let you know.

OOC: SMLE= Short Magazine Lee-Enfield. The standard British Empire/Commonwealth Service Rifle from 1906-1955, when it was replaced by the SLR (English version of the FN-FAL) in most places.

The Indians kept using a version of the SMLE (The SMLE 2A1), chambered for 7.62NATO, until the mid-1970s.

No, the gun isn't Short... with a bayonet attached an SMLE Mk III/III* is about 5 1/2ft long.

The "Short" designation comes from the fact that the Lee-Enfield Mk I (AKA the Long Lee, AKA the Long Tom) was about 1' longer and a bit on the unwieldy side (as one can imagine, trying to fire a rifle nearly 5' long, without a bayonet!)

The Lee-Enfield Mk I (MLE, for short) was descended from the Lee-Metford, which was basically the same as the MLE, but fired a Black Powder cartridge and had different rifling.

The "Magazine" refers to the 10 round detachable magazine the rifle has, and "Lee-Enfield" refers to the designer & manufacturer of the rifle, as well as the type of rifling in the barrel.

So, starting from the Lee-Metford and progressing through to the 2A1, the Lee-Enfield was in service from 1889-1976.

If anyone is REALLY interested in the subject, telegram me and I'll gladly enlighten you. Alternatively, have a look here:

http://www.geocities.com/lee_enfield_rifles/

My apologies to AC for hijacking his thread by talking about my hobby... :D

ump-bay

would you like to join the list of arms suppliers (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7216540#post7216540)

if so reply to the above thread

hello ADI

i would like to buy 10 T-90-ADI49 “Thumper” Artillery Tanks for 40 million
but before i buy i will need permission to be able to modify/re-sell it.

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Chief Burna shrek|
on behalf of the arms garage|
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Permission granted in return for double your payment. That is, for the tanks and permission formular we'll require 80 million USD or equivalent.

/ADI foreign commerce office.

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