NationStates Jolt Archive


The Return of LAGD (anti-GDODAD)

Flocarga and Delmarva
12-01-2004, 17:13
GDODAD is seeking to create an unholy alliance with The Reich and a third organization I can not remember at this time. This group is dangerously threatening the peace of the world as we know it.

Many people have lined up to stand in the way to fight against GDODAD and it's new friends. However, now is the time to organize a coalition of resistance, to prevent them from gaining too much strength without the rest of the world's back turned.

LAGD has already stopped GDODAD once. Now they have returned, so why stop the fight now? Join LAGD now, and protect the NS Universe from this new threat.

Our current membership is 20, from the LAGD-GDODAD conflict around Thanksgiving. We'll be seeking new membership currently, so join now.
The Gulf States
12-01-2004, 22:49
If interested in joining, please reply. I'll accept TG's too.
Diminix
12-01-2004, 22:50
GDODAD is seeking to create an unholy alliance with The Reich and a third organization I can not remember at this time.

Arda

And in other words you wish to create yourself death lol
Malatose
12-01-2004, 22:53
Yes,Comrade,GDODAD is a entity that must be destroyed...we urge you and your allies to join the The Allied Socialist Union in there cause to detroy Facist dictators.
Malatose
12-01-2004, 22:54
Yes,Comrade,GDODAD is a entity that must be destroyed...we urge you and your allies to join the The Allied Socialist Union in there cause to detroy Facist dictators.
13-01-2004, 01:15
Sign me up.
Grays Hill
13-01-2004, 01:17
:lol: :lol: I'm in GDODAD and The Reich...But I seek war with nobody. I am only in it because 1) I was asked by a close ally, and 2) if things get too bad for me in a war, they could help me out :D
Flocarga and Delmarva
13-01-2004, 03:21
Dark Terror: You're already in from the first one.

Grays Hill: We don't want war either. We just pressure the groups into disappearing like always.

Malatose: This organization allows any nation to join - regardless of political and economic status.
Dr_Twist
13-01-2004, 03:26
The Allied Socialist Union Which contains some of Nation States Strongest Nations wishes to Sign an Alliance with this up and coming Alliance. Since the Announcement that this Unholy Alliance was gathering our Alliance has been searching other Alliances in out Some Position.

We are prepared to back up your Alliance will Military Force if GDODAD does go to war.
The Resi Corporation
13-01-2004, 07:10
Maybe, if you can get some better people than DT and GH involved.
The Burnsian Desert
13-01-2004, 07:16
We are also interested in joining the alliance.

I'll show my military if you want... I love my military...
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:18
The long defunct LAGD surfaces again eh? :roll: Most likely just for a few weeks again. Oh BTW, you never stopped GDODAD, period.
The Burnsian Desert
13-01-2004, 07:20
If you don't have anything good to say, don't say it at all.
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:20
If you don't have anything good to say, don't say it at all.

I don't have anything good to say, but I'll keep talking.
The Burnsian Desert
13-01-2004, 07:22
That's it, I'm showin off my military for no reason.

MILITARY

LAND

Partisans (3,500 men) – Pitchfork, RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
1st Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
2nd Royal Artillary Division (40 men, 5 Pieces) – Paladin Equipped
3rd Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
4th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
5th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
6th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
7th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
8th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
9th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
10th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
11th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
12th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
13th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
14th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
15th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
16th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
17th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
18th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
19th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped

SEA

1st Royal Fleet (3 Boats) – OSA Equipped
2nd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
3rd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
4th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped
5th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped

AIR

1st Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
2nd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
3rd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
4th Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
5th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
6th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
7th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
8th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
9th Royal RC Wing (10,000 Aircraft) - F-4596 Sharkzor'd Equipped
10th Royal Air Recon Group (2 Aircraft) – EWACS Equipped
11th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
12th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
13th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
14th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
Dr_Twist
13-01-2004, 07:23
That's it, I'm showin off my military for no reason.

MILITARY

LAND

Partisans (3,500 men) – Pitchfork, RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
1st Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
2nd Royal Artillary Division (40 men, 5 Pieces) – Paladin Equipped
3rd Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
4th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
5th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
6th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
7th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
8th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
9th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
10th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
11th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
12th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
13th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
14th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
15th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
16th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
17th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
18th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
19th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped

SEA

1st Royal Fleet (3 Boats) – OSA Equipped
2nd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
3rd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
4th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped
5th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped

AIR

1st Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
2nd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
3rd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
4th Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
5th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
6th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
7th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
8th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
9th Royal RC Wing (10,000 Aircraft) - F-4596 Sharkzor'd Equipped
10th Royal Air Recon Group (2 Aircraft) – EWACS Equipped
11th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
12th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
13th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
14th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped

Ill give your Millitary ago if you want :lol:
The Burnsian Desert
13-01-2004, 07:24
With MILES gear, sure. A simulated war game.
Dr_Twist
13-01-2004, 07:26
With MILES gear, sure. A simulated war game.

I probley got my SSBN subs then whats in your hole navy, lol
13-01-2004, 07:28
OOC: TBD........I wouldn't give your military stats out like..... and about the GDODAD......they haven't done anything wrong, yet......but I still am a bit bitter about that invasion a long time ago.
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:29
My military forces:


ARMY: 11,000,000

Out of that: 8,000,000 ground forces
3,000,000 support:
550,000 intelligence/officers
700,000 medical staff
250,000 repair techs.
1,500,000 reservists

NAVY: 500,000

Out of that: 300,000 Battleship/Destroyer sailors
25,000 sub sailors
175,000 carrier sailors
(Stats include officers)

AIRBORNE: 600,000

Out of that: 300,000 Airborne soldiers
100,000 officers/intelligence

AIR FORCE: 220,000

Out of that: 80,000 pilots
40,000 officers/intelligence/mantinence

ARMAMENT: (All armament personnel are included in the above figures)
Tanks: 15,100
(M1A1's: 2,100)
(M1A2's: 6,500)
(T-90's: 5,500)
(T-100's (custom made tank): 1,000
Battleships: 17
Destroyers: 61
Subs: 51
Carriers: 13
Fighter jets: 1750
Bombers: 625
Light armored fighting vehicles (every kind): 9146
Troop transports: 1181
Helicopters: 1,212
(Commanche: 300)
(Apache: 400)
(Cobra: 200)
Blackhawk: 200)
(Various transport choppers: 112)
Transport planes: 153
Phyrric
13-01-2004, 07:32
small navy
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:33
small navy

Correction, it's a non godmod navy.
The Burnsian Desert
13-01-2004, 07:33
Never mind... I'm screwed if my forces go against yours... *Beef up Beef up Beef up* in MILES....
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:35
Never mind... I'm screwed if my forces go against yours... *Beef up Beef up Beef up* in MILES....

The Sentinels alone have trounced whole nations.

:coughNewSparthacough:
Dr_Twist
13-01-2004, 07:36
Nice army AMF, it is against Dr_Twist Policy to say what forces we have, But we have a very VERY large navy.
Phyrric
13-01-2004, 07:40
small navy

Correction, it's a non godmod navy.

My navy is large as well with a slightly smaller Army, but when it comes to total numbers, it is very close to yours. I have 21 Battle Fleets which have a CVN and BBG in each along with 7 Amphib Fleets, the Army/Marine totals close to 8 million. AF same as yours most likely. Sum it up short, a war between us would be a classic Sea/Land scenario, stalemate.
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 07:57
My navy is large as well with a slightly smaller Army, but when it comes to total numbers, it is very close to yours. I have 21 Battle Fleets which have a CVN and BBG in each along with 7 Amphib Fleets, the Army/Marine totals close to 8 million. AF same as yours most likely. Sum it up short, a war between us would be a classic Sea/Land scenario, stalemate.

You might get me on the sea, but you would never win on land.
Phyrric
13-01-2004, 08:02
Like I mentioned, a stale mate. You could not get me on the sea hence never be able to get to me either. Large nations fight means high death toll. Is it worth it?
Automagfreek
13-01-2004, 08:03
Like I mentioned, a stale mate. You could not get me on the sea hence never be able to get to me either. Large nations fight means high death toll. Is it worth it?

For blood and fire? The Sentinels would not hesitate.
13-01-2004, 08:07
OOC:

Ground Soldiers=10,800,000
AirForce=1,400,000
Navy=1,400,000
Intelligence Agency\Strategic Missile Command=400,000

(includes logistics)
Phyrric
13-01-2004, 08:08
Like I mentioned, a stale mate. You could not get me on the sea hence never be able to get to me either. Large nations fight means high death toll. Is it worth it?

For blood and fire? The Sentinels would not hesitate.

Your blood, my fire from my navy? lol

eom, good night
Auman
13-01-2004, 08:12
Unfortunately I've had dealings with Arda in the past...its nothing anyones wants to go into on their own, The Vascilian League barely survived the conflict. Now we see them joining forces with GDODAD and the Reich, Auman see's no other choice in the matter.

Auman will sign the charter of Alliance in the hopes that the forces of order will hopefully prevail in the future. The unholy pact of the forces of Evil is a menacing omen to be heeded. Overlord Marduk will host negotiations for the nations involved in LAGD, new nations will be able to field questions and veterans of the pact will be able to answer them.

OOC:

Lets just start Role playing this thread as if it were in a conference hall in Vascilia City, Auman, Mars. Arda and GDODAD have space nations so going to Mars shouldn't be to difficult eh? Yeah, this is an alliance thread...so could we just talk about that? haha.
Auman
14-01-2004, 08:56
AUBC Newsflash:

Overlord Marduk hosts LAGD Negotiations.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2582442#2582442



OOC:

I think this would be a better rp for one, and if you could get everyone who is involved we could take a head count and I could make a list of members.
Vrak
14-01-2004, 09:25
OOC: Interesting name - Marduk.

http://www.protestants.org/etudes-bibliques/marduk.jpg
Zvarinograd
14-01-2004, 09:38
OOC:
Marduk, God of the Babylonians.
Vrak
14-01-2004, 10:07
OOC:
Marduk, God of the Babylonians.

OOC: I know. Sky god if I'm not mistaken. When I did a search that's what I was looking for. Not the rock band. :)
Flocarga and Delmarva
15-01-2004, 21:07
I got Dr. Twist and Burnsian Desert in so far. I'll send notices for that later, and post a new membership roster.

Anyone else want to join in?
15-01-2004, 21:54
Greenhome will join, we don't like GDODAD...

OOC: Maybe that should be may phrase...
15-01-2004, 21:55
--DOUBLE POST--
Huzen Hagen
15-01-2004, 22:04
That's it, I'm showin off my military for no reason.

MILITARY

LAND

Partisans (3,500 men) – Pitchfork, RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
1st Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
2nd Royal Artillary Division (40 men, 5 Pieces) – Paladin Equipped
3rd Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
4th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – M1A2 Abrams Equipped
5th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
6th Royal Urban Division (500 men) – RPG, Skorpion, Stinger, M1 Bradley, Blackhawk Equipped
7th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
8th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
9th Royal MP Division (800 men) – M-9 Baretta Equipped
10th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
11th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
12th Urban Tactics Squad (6 men) – CAR-15 Equipped
13th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, Ak-47 Equipped
14th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
15th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
16th Royal Infantry Brigade (1,000 men) – RPG, M-16 Equipped
17th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
18th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped
19th Royal Tank Division (100 men, 20 tanks) – Challanger II Equipped

SEA

1st Royal Fleet (3 Boats) – OSA Equipped
2nd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
3rd Royal Fleet (5 Boats) – OSA, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer Equipped
4th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped
5th Royal Carrier Battle Group – OSA, Nimitz, Type-45 Stealth Distroyer, 688(I) Equipped

AIR

1st Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
2nd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
3rd Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
4th Royal Air Wing (5 aircraft, 10 men) – F-14 Equipped
5th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
6th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
7th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
8th Royal Bomber Squadron, (3 Aircraft, 15 men) – B-52 Equipped
9th Royal RC Wing (10,000 Aircraft) - F-4596 Sharkzor'd Equipped
10th Royal Air Recon Group (2 Aircraft) – EWACS Equipped
11th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
12th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
13th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped
14th Royal Helicopter Wing (7 Aircraft) – Bell Super Cobra Equipped

i thought your population was 80,000 after the attack. how did you get that many men after being carpet nuked by TROUSRS?
The Silver Turtle
15-01-2004, 22:18
GDODAD is seeking to create an unholy alliance with The Reich and a third organization I can not remember at this time. This group is dangerously threatening the peace of the world as we know it.

Many people have lined up to stand in the way to fight against GDODAD and it's new friends. However, now is the time to organize a coalition of resistance, to prevent them from gaining too much strength without the rest of the world's back turned.

LAGD has already stopped GDODAD once. Now they have returned, so why stop the fight now? Join LAGD now, and protect the NS Universe from this new threat.

Our current membership is 20, from the LAGD-GDODAD conflict around Thanksgiving. We'll be seeking new membership currently, so join now.
Official Statement from the Ineffable High Command:

Point 1) When the feck did you ever stop us? You disappeared as soon as it became clear we weren't going away.
Point 2) The alliance discussion is secret. You can't form an alliance against us, because you don't know we're allying.
Point 3) Bring it on. Try and stop us. It'd be amusing crushing you like the bugs you are.

Bob Minor, Military Training Exercises Department.
15-01-2004, 22:53
GDODAD is seeking to create an unholy alliance with The Reich and a third organization I can not remember at this time. This group is dangerously threatening the peace of the world as we know it.

Many people have lined up to stand in the way to fight against GDODAD and it's new friends. However, now is the time to organize a coalition of resistance, to prevent them from gaining too much strength without the rest of the world's back turned.

LAGD has already stopped GDODAD once. Now they have returned, so why stop the fight now? Join LAGD now, and protect the NS Universe from this new threat.

Our current membership is 20, from the LAGD-GDODAD conflict around Thanksgiving. We'll be seeking new membership currently, so join now.
Official Statement from the Ineffable High Command:

Point 1) When the feck did you ever stop us? You disappeared as soon as it became clear we weren't going away.
Point 2) The alliance discussion is secret. You can't form an alliance against us, because you don't know we're allying.
Point 3) Bring it on. Try and stop us. It'd be amusing crushing you like the bugs you are.

Bob Minor, Military Training Exercises Department.

Response from Greenland:
Umm, the fact is that just about everyone knows about the alliance due to things that have leaked. As one of your members said (in a thread I can't remember) "This is too big for there not to be leaks" or something like that. Also, many of your members have admitted this on other threads.
Wretchengard
15-01-2004, 23:53
Response from Greenland:
Umm, the fact is that just about everyone knows about the alliance due to things that have leaked. As one of your members said (in a thread I can't remember) "This is too big for there not to be leaks" or something like that. Also, many of your members have admitted this on other threads.

OOC:
Unless one of the nations attending the conference said something IC (and I challenge you to find one instance where they did), this is just another case of people using OOC information in-character. Melkor is the one hosting the meeting, so it's up to him to decide if there is an information leak. People cannot automatically know just because it's "too big," because that's entirely subjective. At most some nations might have noticed a little more diplomatic travel to the Imperium of Melkor Unchained, but how would they know what's going on there? It could be Melkor's birthday party, as far as the rest of the world knows.
Vrak
16-01-2004, 17:18
Response from Greenland:
Umm, the fact is that just about everyone knows about the alliance due to things that have leaked. As one of your members said (in a thread I can't remember) "This is too big for there not to be leaks" or something like that. Also, many of your members have admitted this on other threads.

OOC:
Unless one of the nations attending the conference said something IC (and I challenge you to find one instance where they did), this is just another case of people using OOC information in-character. Melkor is the one hosting the meeting, so it's up to him to decide if there is an information leak. People cannot automatically know just because it's "too big," because that's entirely subjective. At most some nations might have noticed a little more diplomatic travel to the Imperium of Melkor Unchained, but how would they know what's going on there? It could be Melkor's birthday party, as far as the rest of the world knows.

OOC: Indeed. One would have to make a careful study of surrounding NS events to possibly even surmize that some kind of defensive pact is even being discussed. It would be safe to say that each nation at Alkanphel's hall took unusually high security precautions for this meeting. I doubt even Menelmacar's special ops are that well entrenched in Arda.
The Sword and Sheild
16-01-2004, 18:15
I joined LAGD the first night it was founded, and have never reniged my membership, but let's get the facts straight. First, the ADK situation was humiliating for LAGD, there's no two ways around it. Second, we Never stopped GDODAD from doing anything, and shortly thereafter ceased to be an active participant in anything.

I will remain in LAGD for my part, but at least try to appear as a unified and decisive force, not like the last time around. And it seems we have a lot of Naval nations, I for one am a Naval Nation, however I don't claim to have an 8,000,000 strong Marine force, my Marines are a small 80,000 large force, with my Army numbering in around 800,000 (and that is counting logistical support). Becuase of size I drastically prefer quality over quantity, and it's an entirely volunteer force, I would imagine each one of my troops could perform admirably against a conscript force when the odds are against them.
16-01-2004, 19:36
Response from Greenland:
Umm, the fact is that just about everyone knows about the alliance due to things that have leaked. As one of your members said (in a thread I can't remember) "This is too big for there not to be leaks" or something like that. Also, many of your members have admitted this on other threads.

OOC:
Unless one of the nations attending the conference said something IC (and I challenge you to find one instance where they did), this is just another case of people using OOC information in-character. Melkor is the one hosting the meeting, so it's up to him to decide if there is an information leak. People cannot automatically know just because it's "too big," because that's entirely subjective. At most some nations might have noticed a little more diplomatic travel to the Imperium of Melkor Unchained, but how would they know what's going on there? It could be Melkor's birthday party, as far as the rest of the world knows.

OOC: Indeed. One would have to make a careful study of surrounding NS events to possibly even surmize that some kind of defensive pact is even being discussed. It would be safe to say that each nation at Alkanphel's hall took unusually high security precautions for this meeting. I doubt even Menelmacar's special ops are that well entrenched in Arda.

We will start here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114601&start=0

In it Diminix says:
My fellow Yayoans as of late there has been alot of tensions rising between TROUSRS, The Reich, GDODAD and many other nations who believe they can raise a coalition against us.

Not quite an admission, but why are the three orgaizations all angry about an attack on a member of GDODAD?

In the same thread also from Diminix:
As our distant ally in Arda has said...
He says it right there...

Or if you need more proof:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113764&highlight=

Automagfreek says:

TROUSRS is a GDODAD member, so we stand behind them 100%. Same goes for the rest of GDODAD, and possibly our friends in Arda and The Reich. Although we may or may not approve of their actions, our pledge to mutual defense makes this our problem.

AND NOW FOR THE ULTIMATE PROOF!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113764&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

I quote from Magnus Valerius:

We, of The Crown Empire of Magnus Valerius, request the entente that we would establish between us and the members of GDODAD, The Reich, and Arda in our treaty be passed into your treaty. In other words, we shall guarantee any member nation of those alliances their independence - when they are attacked, we shall support them diplomatically, militarily, or in any way we can muster. The souring of our relations with the now worthless crater of TBD and its so-called allies has caused the outcry of this entente.

REQUEST THE ENTENTE THAT WOULD ESTABLISH BEWEEN US AND THE MEMBERS OF GDODAD, THE REICH, AND ARADA IN OUR TREATY

I rest my case...

OOC: Careful study indeed...
The Silver Turtle
16-01-2004, 19:54
OOC: Magnus Valerius is not present at the talks. He is not a member of any of the alliances. Therefore, he does not IC know of the talks, and thus his statement is using OOC knowledge IC and is void. As for the others, the GDODAD, the Reich and Arda have long been friends anyway. When a coalition against Arda was raised not too long ago (When Gods Go to War) the GDODAD and the Reich helped with the defence.
Ergo, a lot of conclusion jumping would have to be...jumped in order to even think we were discussing an alliance.
16-01-2004, 19:59
So you're saying he is lying?

OOC:
And what about the rest of it?? Friends that jump to each other defense?! That sounds like allies to me!

EDIT: (still OOC) You haven't answered me IC, so the charges of an alliance still haven't been defended against.
EDIT: Grammar mistake
The Silver Turtle
16-01-2004, 20:09
So your saying he is lying?

OOC:
And how about the rest of it??
I do indeed.

OOC: Erm...:
As for the others, the GDODAD, the Reich and Arda have long been friends anyway. When a coalition against Arda was raised not too long ago (When Gods Go to War) the GDODAD and the Reich helped with the defence.
Ergo, a lot of conclusion jumping would have to be...jumped in order to even think we were discussing an alliance.
Thought I'd already done that part in my previous post.
16-01-2004, 20:18
OOC:
My point is that my post was IC and yours is OOC. So, my nation is still waiting for a reply...

Not really, you basically made a bunch of denials... You know that the nations of the world aren't exactly stupid... And also (keep in mind this is OCC) (Um let's see how do I put this). Everyone is saying you have an alliance IC. Since we are real nations IC, we don't even have to speak the truth. I did, there is some pretty good evidence there.

P.S. I thought Magnus Valerius was in your organization after he killed all of those people...
Vrak
17-01-2004, 12:55
Snip

OOC: Careful study indeed...

OOC: Good, so you did some legwork. I'm not exactly sure though on the tone of your "careful study indeed" remark. I certainly never implied that finding out and making educated guesses would be impossible.
Phyrric
17-01-2004, 14:04
Diminix is at the meeting so how can his statements be disregarded? The forum is littered with remarks from STS, Auto, Diminix, LCS, etc about the alliance. It is out pal. As far as secret, you have alot of members that cannot keep their mouths shut. Your excuses for 'secrecy' is lame at best.

Phyrric found out about this alliance because GDODAD is so egotistical, go running to the aid of a friend at ANY cost....TROUSRS, and that cost was exposure.
Vrak
17-01-2004, 15:11
Diminix is at the meeting so how can his statements be disregarded? The forum is littered with remarks from STS, Auto, Diminix, LCS, etc about the alliance. It is out pal. As far as secret, you have alot of members that cannot keep their mouths shut. Your excuses for 'secrecy' is lame at best.

Phyrric found out about this alliance because GDODAD is so egotistical, go running to the aid of a friend at ANY cost....TROUSRS, and that cost was exposure.

OOC: Yes, and many of the problems started at the very beginning of that thread that AMF created. Note the times he and others had to constantly reprimand people. But sure, if one of the leaders that are in attendance makes a slip-up in a press conference, then it's fair game. I suppose it comes down to the time stamps if one wanted to get really picky.
TROUSRS
17-01-2004, 15:13
Do I smell.. *sniffs*.. fear? :twisted:

Nothing will ever take down the GDODAD, not again.
Arribastan
17-01-2004, 15:30
Of course we will join.

Someday, the free world will unite against GDODAD. Elves, men, Dwarves, and all other free species will remove this threat to world serenity. We will be fighting by their side. Come, join us! Unite with the free world to destroy this threat of the GDODAD. WE WILL PREVAIL IF WE UNITE!
~J.C. Alcanzar
Crossroads Inc
17-01-2004, 15:59
*The Lord High CEO of Crossroads Inc stands before his Mighty computer, Sending forth an Incorporated Edict*

"This has gone on long enough, This people seeking a War with GDODAD do not know what they are doing. This is wrong not because they will be defeated, no, it is wrong because they may very well indeed win. It is wrong because the people behind this War wish to strike first. History should teach us that pre-emptive wars are never won, as well are those wars for people who 'Strike First'

If the people gathering in a great storm against GDODAD Attack first, for the sole reason of 'Attacking' It will not be seen as a justfyed war, nor shall it seem a proper one.

I urge all nations to take a step away from the Abyss you seek to enter."

*The Lord High CEO pauses as he sends his message, an Intern enters*

"A most glorious and thrilling message Your Lord and CEO!"

"Ah thanks, it was nothing."

"Do you think the other nations shall truely Head your warning Lord CEO?"

"Meh, I kinda doubt it"
The Gulf States
18-01-2004, 01:15
Let the entire situation be addressed.

First off, we do not wish to create the inevitable World War - we wish to organize a coalition of nations to prevent the rise of GDODAD and friends. When they decide to create the war, we will be ready to fight them, or at least become martyrs for the idea of freedom.

To all the little GDODAD leaders who want to continously run their mouths about us being weak: we are always watching you. Be surprised on what we could pull off - what you do not know about. We know you wish to infiltrate our knowledge, do you fear us that much?
Magnus Valerius
18-01-2004, 01:46
P.S. I thought Magnus Valerius was in your organization after he killed all of those people...

Just because my country's emperor is an unhinged psychotic who is eliminating political freedoms and that the citizens of my country adhere to Jingoism and Revanchism doesn't mean that Magnus Valerius instantly is associated with GDODAD.
18-01-2004, 04:58
Of course we will join.

Someday, the free world will unite against GDODAD. Elves, men, Dwarves, and all other free species will remove this threat to world serenity. We will be fighting by their side. Come, join us! Unite with the free world to destroy this threat of the GDODAD. WE WILL PREVAIL IF WE UNITE!
~J.C. Alcanzar

Ironic, how he calls the elves the free peoples of the world, but in many instances, the elves are the ones who deny any rights to their people, and are ones who have brought genocied and death to many.
18-01-2004, 05:18
Greetings from Xeraph!

Flocarqa and Delmarva, please see our entry in the thread " This is for you....". We have started the ball rolling for a "Grand Alliance" as an alternative to the GDODAD, Reich, etc bunch. We already have quite a few nations.regions interested. Please reply to Xeraph via TG if interested.

Thanks,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
18-01-2004, 05:19
Greetings from Xeraph!

Flocarqa and Delmarva, please see our entry in the thread " This is for you....". We have started the ball rolling for a "Grand Alliance" as an alternative to the GDODAD, Reich, etc bunch. We already have quite a few nations.regions interested. Please reply to Xeraph via TG if interested.

Thanks,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

You're AAcheron. :lol:
Crossroads Inc
18-01-2004, 05:24
Greetings from Xeraph!

Flocarqa and Delmarva, please see our entry in the thread " This is for you....". We have started the ball rolling for a "Grand Alliance" as an alternative to the GDODAD, Reich, etc bunch. We already have quite a few nations.regions interested. Please reply to Xeraph via TG if interested.

Thanks,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

You're AAcheron. :lol:

OOooo Ouch! I so hate when that hapens to me :oops: (no Im not going to say with which nation
18-01-2004, 05:25
OOooo Ouch! I so hate when that hapens to me :oops: (no Im not going to say with which nation

Isnt it so much worse when someone catches it and points it out, barring you from deleting the post? :twisted:
18-01-2004, 05:43
Aacheron is filling in for Xeraph as representative of ARM.

Evidently, Skullzz couldn't figure that out.
18-01-2004, 05:47
Evidently, Skullzz couldn't care less. Both nations in question are pathetically puny. :lol: :roll:
18-01-2004, 05:49
From Xeraph:

One of these days, Skullzz, one of these days............
18-01-2004, 05:51
One of these days... what? One of these days you'll throw a bouncy ball over my border without it being blasted by border patrol? One of these days you'll treat me to a cheese sammich? One of these days you'll get your chance to dance in the nude with Richard Simmons? Please be more specific, child. :lol:
Xeraph
18-01-2004, 06:01
We were actually wondering if Richard Simmons was hiding out in Skullzz, with the rest of you fairies.

One of these days............
18-01-2004, 06:04
:lol: The two week nation called us fairies... :roll:
Xeraph
18-01-2004, 06:07
The biggest thing I regret about the TBD airport hostage situation with IH is that I hadn't called off the fighters.
I would have loved to have engaged you had you actually had the nerve to attack us. There were enough of our allies to bomb you back to the stone-age, where you could pick your ass with the rest of the neanderthals.
18-01-2004, 06:09
All talk. I kept that situation from erupting into a civilian casualty nightmare while you repeatedly threatened to go in and kill terrorists and hostages alike.
Xeraph
18-01-2004, 06:12
The loss of a few hostages is a small price to pay for the annihilation of a terrorist nation. Somewhere down the line, we're gonna have to deal with these a-holes again.....and again....and again.

Why don't we stop screwing around with each other and attack IH?
18-01-2004, 06:15
I'd rather not. I could care less what IH is doing now, I'm not here to go off on a self-righteous terrorist hunt. IH knows better than to strike me, and so they are of no concern to the Dark Legions.
Elizabethshire
18-01-2004, 06:23
The Macabees
18-01-2004, 06:37
The Macabees has no clue what this is about... but was directed by Skullz..evidently there's an anti-G. alliance... oh wow like it wasn't going to happen..and alike all other anti alliances its going to die on its own or get destroyed by the alliance it was meant to oppose... BTW, I support Skullz and the G. alliance.
Auman
18-01-2004, 09:00
The Macabees has no clue what this is about... but was directed by Skullz..evidently there's an anti-G. alliance... oh wow like it wasn't going to happen..and alike all other anti alliances its going to die on its own or get destroyed by the alliance it was meant to oppose... BTW, I support Skullz and the G. alliance.

Its not meant to oppose anything comrade...but to make the nations involved more resistant to invasion.
Flocarga and Delmarva
19-01-2004, 16:08
I sent out four more invitations to join. Auman, Greenhome, Burnsian, and Dr. Twist

If you would like to join in, or if I missed you somewhere in the topic - speak up now.
The Sword and Sheild
19-01-2004, 17:00
The Macabees has no clue what this is about... but was directed by Skullz..evidently there's an anti-G. alliance... oh wow like it wasn't going to happen..and alike all other anti alliances its going to die on its own or get destroyed by the alliance it was meant to oppose... BTW, I support Skullz and the G. alliance.


....you mean like.... the CDA? (sarcasm)
The Sword and Sheild
19-01-2004, 17:02
The Macabees has no clue what this is about... but was directed by Skullz..evidently there's an anti-G. alliance... oh wow like it wasn't going to happen..and alike all other anti alliances its going to die on its own or get destroyed by the alliance it was meant to oppose... BTW, I support Skullz and the G. alliance.


you mean... like the CDA? [sarcasm]

your logic also infers GDODAD will be destroyed by democracies, so, what's the point.
Auman
20-01-2004, 02:46
Auman is by no means a democracy, but instead a Benevolant dictatorship. Marduk is good to the people of Auman and they love him for it.
The Gulf States
20-01-2004, 15:52
Of course, although our name is League Against Global Dictatorships; we've got dictatorships in our membership. We just don't seek the global evil threat GDODAD presents.

Also, if GDODAD thinks we'll easily fold to thier military power - then we'll be proud to be the first martyrs in the next World War. Not that'd we'd start it first.