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Yesterday evening a group of Rebelandi Physicists discovered a rather auspicious mistake. Through an inobvious error made in an experiment with anti-matter, photons and electrons, the portal to a parallel universe was discovered. Upon further investigation, it was determined that this universe was parallel to our own down to the most minute detail. Once the physicists realized that they could communicate with the parallel Rebeland, the government became involved. Apparently a worm-hole had been created through a similar error in the parallel Rebeland. The president was talking to his parallel self today, and realized that this discovery could pose some sort of military and economic significance. Since the communication, the Rebelandi millitaries have been guarding the Rebeland University Physics department. More on this story as it develps...

Ok so your going to inter frear in the affiars of another dimetion ....


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Tell my parllel self I said hi :lol:

Lol,just kidding

I declare war on you mostyl cause I'm bored.

Shadow Glow 's (Government Controlled) newspaper reads "Our Great leader to Carpet Bomb country with our shining new nuclear war heads, all Hail Our Great Leader"

That is a most... interesting accomplishment. We wish for a guided tour of your labs and Physics Department.

The Allied States Of Shadow GLow Nuke the crap out of the univeristy.

Dicator of Shadow Glow responds "There's where I put those, I thought I sent them to Burma, silly me, I guess that's why the U.N think I'm a Psychotic Dicator"

Ok so your going to inter frear in the affiars of another dimetion ....


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Well, I suppose so. We have established active commerce with ourselves, and are planning a military merger. Luckily for us, we are the only nation on Earth that has such capabilities.

"Be wary of interdimensional travel, you don't want to be *noticed* by something out there...
Right now they can't *smell* you, but this could all change if you make yourself *visible* to them..."

Anyone who has played star control 2 will know what I mean... :p

IC: You cannot predict what effect this has on well, anything really. You must close the portal before something comes through...

The Allied States Of Shadow GLow Nuke the crap out of the univeristy.

Dicator of Shadow Glow responds "There's where I put those, I thought I sent them to Burma, silly me, I guess that's why the U.N think I'm a Psychotic Dicator"

No. You are 11 posts old and cannot have possibly made nukes in an hour.

Shadow Glow,

If you did nuke the physics department, you would have essentially destroyed the fabrics of reality, disrupting the space time continuum. In other words, you would have killed all of existence, including yourself.

The Allied States Of Shadow GLow Nuke the crap out of the univeristy.

Dicator of Shadow Glow responds "There's where I put those, I thought I sent them to Burma, silly me, I guess that's why the U.N think I'm a Psychotic Dicator"

No. You are 11 posts old and cannot have possibly made nukes in an hour.

I've been playing for two months, also I'm Psychotic all my nukes are just really Uranuim Laced Naplam

I already have a paralell SI-- Look!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113738

Shadow Glow,

If you did nuke the physics department, you would have essentially destroyed the fabrics of reality, disrupting the space time continuum. In other words, you would have killed all of existence, including yourself.

Good point but....

I'm Psychotic

This sounds strage but have you discoverd more than one of these universes ?

You really want plutonium laced napalm. You see, uranium is only dangerous due to the alpha particles it emits. It isn't naturally posionius. Now plutonium on the other hand is of the same toxsicity level as arsenic, in addition to its radioactive properties (which are also worse than uranium's)

Anyway, I repeat myself on the use of intradimensional travel

"You cannot predict the effect that this could have on anything. You must close the portal before something unintended comes through."

Even much more powerful nations have been destroyed by meddeling in technology such as this before they are ready. You cannot predict what kind of horrors you may unleash.

You really want plutonium laced napalm. You see, uranium is only dangerous due to the alpha particles it emits. It isn't naturally posionius. Now plutonium on the other hand is of the same toxsicity level as arsenic, in addition to its radioactive properties (which are also worse than uranium's)

Anyway, I repeat myself on the use of intradimensional travel

"You cannot predict the effect that this could have on anything. You must close the portal before something unintended comes through."

Even much more powerful nations have been destroyed by meddeling in technology such as this before they are ready. You cannot predict what kind of horrors you may unleash.

Plutonium Laced Napalm is only used on people I don't like and family members... wait

Facehuggaria, this universe is exactly the same as the one we live in! So if there were some sort of alien life, it would be known to us already in this universe.

I find this is a big threat to global security. The only way to destroy it that I see possible is having it implode, which would require very advanced technology I'm not yet privy to. Please, rebeland, evacuate the area and destroy the entire building before this becomes disasterous.

That is not necesarily what I am refering to. I am talking about a sort of alien life that shifts between dimensions, feeding as it goes... It homes in on its prey based on interdimensional travel...
By traveling interdimensionally, you alert its *nose* to your presence. It now knows you are there. You don't want to know what happens next.

Funny thing, If the building is destroyed the fabrics of time are destroyed and everyone dies! It is not capable of imploding, due to the nature of anti-matter, keeping it at the size it is at is hard enough. Yet, if we wanted to we could close it to prevent someone from the other universe from entering.

:roll: Why not just seal it off ?

We don't know anything about the true physics of this. Can you do something like this before it's scientifically proved RL? The properties are probably inaccurate, and we don't even know if it's physically possible.

Facehuggaria, this universe is exactly the same as the one we live in! So if there were some sort of alien life, it would be known to us already in this universe.

Not necessarily. See, according to the string theory, no universe is perfectly straight, and there's 13 dimensions that this alternitive universe can be bent towards. It may appear identical according to our three dimensions around the area explored, but there could be so many differences that this whole ultimately leads to problems we'd never suspect.

It is proven in RL. However, we lack the energy to exploit it. The amount of energy required to open a portal like the one described is more than the sun makes in its entire lifespan. (Note, when I said this is proven in RL, I meant it is theoretically proven. You can't prove it unless you have some sort of anti-matter powersource.)

That is where you are wrong. We gained the energy through infinite momentum from a proton, which was accelerated at the speed of light.

Bah if you are going to find an alternative dimension at least find oen that is indentical but a few minutes behind us and launch some nukes through the gap...

Anyone else remeber that short strip from 2000AD (rogue trooper anual)

Alright. Then I was wrong about the energy source. However, my warning about *creatures* still stands. You are doing something very dangerous- may your nation survive in spite of it.

The Federal Narcotics Service will ivnvestiagte the scientists in question as we think they are heavily stoned.

Funny thing, If the building is destroyed the fabrics of time are destroyed and everyone dies! It is not capable of imploding, due to the nature of anti-matter, keeping it at the size it is at is hard enough. Yet, if we wanted to we could close it to prevent someone from the other universe from entering.

There's no anti-matter left, once anti-matter reacts with regular matter, both are destroyed. And it won't rip the fabric of time for two reasons. One, there is no fabric of time, the universe is made up of independantly assorted sub-atomic particles of varying dimensions and density. Second, it's believed that gravitons are what have brought our universes close enough for this action to occur. So, in order for it to close, you must expell the gravitons from the area, most probably by further use of anti-matter or the three other sub-atomic forces, being electromagnetic force, strong force, weak force. All of these vastly out power gravitons. The area would be mangled in ways unimaginable, but any damage resulting from the dimensions would be stopped before it could cause any damage.

Bah just find a tear through to an anit universe (universe made up of anti matter).
Train up a few clones so that you appear to live forever and declare yourself emperor of mankind.

OK i'll stop now

That is where you are wrong. We gained the energy through infinite momentum from a proton, which was accelerated at the speed of light.

You seem to lack scientific background for the reported discovery to be possible. A discovery of moving anything, even a proton, at the speed of light is extraordinary in itself. It's been physically proven that the closer you get to the speed of light, the speed starts to taper and the mass of the object increases. Being able to break the barrier is a great discover. However, energy cannot be created nor destroyed, so where did you find the energy before you placed it in the proton?

nevermind the theoretical inconsistencies...

nevermind the theoretical inconsistencies...

this could mean that you can combine research, military, economy, technology, and research efforts. But may me and some of my scientist have a tour too. This is, well, interesting to say the least.

this could mean that you can combine research, military, economy, technology, and research efforts. But may me and some of my scientist have a tour too. This is, well, interesting to say the least.

this could mean that you can combine research, military, economy, technology, and research efforts. But may me and some of my scientist have a tour too. This is, well, interesting to say the least.

this could mean that you can combine research, military, economy, technology, and research efforts. But may me and some of my scientist have a tour too. This is, well, interesting to say the least.

nevermind the theoretical inconsistencies...

Notihng inconsitent about my theories, I'd just like to know how you did it or atleast how you plan to deal with the threat it gives.

Waitaminute, if this was exactly the same as the world we live in, how would we be able to get through the portal? I mean, if it's exactly the same, if some guy tried to step through the portal, his alternate self would at the same time and they'd run in to each other, bounce off, and not have gotten through. Basically all you've created is a glorified mirror, which has no real effect because even if someone managed to get through, their other self would have gotten through in the other dimension, and each of them wouldn't even notice anything different, because both these universes are exactly the same.

In case you are wondering about why I am rambling on about extradimensional creatures...

IC: Two years ago, Central Facehuggeria was working hard on creating a functional FTL drive (OOC: this was before a 'ufo' crashed in our nation and we acquired that ftl technology) and one of the methods attempted was extra dimensional travel. Using a small amount of anti-matter painstakingly acquired and sealed magnetically (to prevent it from hitting any normal matter) one of our scientists constructed what could be best described as a 'gate.' Now everything worked fine, until the first volunteer stepped through...

From our standpoint, he was gone for only a few seconds before he was thrown back through the gate. However, he was screaming incoherently, and he was all scratched up. We rushed him to the base's medical facility, where he defied treatment. No matter what the CF doctors did to heal his deep cuts, more always seemed to 'appear.' He was still screaming, but this time about how 'something was eating him alive' We obviously though he was crazy. He died a few hours later...

Now the scientist was convinced that his machine was flawed, so he went to work, and two weeks later made a new gate. However, our government obviously wouldn't let anyone through again, the risk was deemed to great. But this scientist, a Doctor Moreau, ignored us and went through himself. (With numerous recording devices.) He emerged two full hours later. He was talking to himself saying things like "what are you" and "What do you want?" he obviously was getting answers because he locked himself in his room with a pad and paper for two days. On the third day, we went to check on him, he was dead. The lower half of his body was gone, blood was everywhere.

When we looked at his notes (which were so numerous that they extended beyond his 300 sheet notebook onto the walls) They started sanely enough; "I've made contact with an being or group of beings... They tell me that they are 'shepards' of sorts that tend to lesser creatures, making them 'invisible' to 'the others'. Apparently they have a vested intrest in the races of this multiverse, and they are trying to protect us from these 'others'. I asked who these 'others' were, and I got the reply 'monsters from below. They hunt by detecting certain types of life energy... We are 'modifying' your people to be 'invisible' to them." But then, the tone of his writings changed as his sanity seemed to leave him; "They have left me, saying something to the effect of 'we can't help you. They know you are here. We must go.' Just great." Then degrading into "I'm being chased by wolves, great monsterous wolves..." And lastly into "the ghosts will never find me. No. I won't let them!" Until; "Oh no... No... Please...I swear I told them nothing, wait I'm not crazy!! Nooo! Oh my g--" The writing ends there, the wall on which it was found was covered with the scientist's blood.

Needless to say, we closed down the gate after that, recorded his insane writings and locked them away in the deepest vault we have. We warn you to close your portal before it is too late for your people...

Waitaminute, if this was exactly the same as the world we live in, how would we be able to get through the portal? I mean, if it's exactly the same, if some guy tried to step through the portal, his alternate self would at the same time and they'd run in to each other, bounce off, and not have gotten through. Basically all you've created is a glorified mirror, which has no real effect because even if someone managed to get through, their other self would have gotten through in the other dimension, and each of them wouldn't even notice anything different, because both these universes are exactly the same.Just quoting myself so that I don't get lost in CF's backstory.

Heh. :)
I don't think it is excactly the same. :) Just pretty similar! :P

Bump so my backstory doesn't get lost on page twelve!

Interesting argument. However, once I noticed that there were two of me, it was pretty obvious that everything wasn't the same.