NationStates Jolt Archive


Railguns and walking tanks

07-01-2004, 10:11
Having looked at the relevant documentation, and checked our budgets, we have started work on a high-grade tank mounted Railgun, capable of rivaling the more conventional ICBM but completely untrackable(except fotr about thirty-five seconds in the upper atmosphere, where tracking telemetry will be accessed, and the missile redirected toward it's target).

We have detailed a ten-foot long bore, with nuclear specifications for the primary power source(we're working on reducing the power requirements, but only nuclear seems to be powerful enough for Intercontinental flight). The rails are made of a newly discovered superconductive alloy(it is stable at room temperature, so usable in most campaigns) that greatly increases the yield of kinetic energy.

The Armature is a standard targeting missile, similar to an ICBM, but with only limited maneuvering caqpability. We are currently looking for a light-weight, yet conductive material, which will take up aproximately 60-75% of the volume.

The ideal mount for this would, of course, be a walking tank, but as such have yet to be made reliable, they can easily be fitted to more traditional tanks.
We estimate that completion of this project and construction of a working prototype will take aproximately 1 year, and $20 million dollars.
Therefore, we are looking to find subcontractors to work on minor systems(tracking, servo control, motor-mount, and other less critical technologies)
We would be willing to negotiate the amount of concessions and military funding we could grant.
The high Dwarfmage
Kanuckistan
07-01-2004, 10:17
I'm not sure exactly what this is suposed to be, but it sounds like you know little about what you're talking about. Is it suposed to fire a railgun-launched Inter-Continental Guilded Missile?
No_State_At_All
07-01-2004, 10:21
WTF?
i agree with Kanuckistan.
08-01-2004, 10:08
We have given the preliminary specs in order to sound out interest. The actual product, of course, would be the railgun, railgun mount, and missile shell. What was done with said shell, whether in the use of ICBMs, surface to air, or surface to surface missiles, is completely up to the purchaser, along with the warheads used- if said product is indeed ever sold.

This product is in fact only the first step in the Dwarfmag Space program, which would need much more time, material, and research to implement.
Guided missile capability, while not currently available, is the obvious next step, however such delicate circuitry would almost certainly be shorted out by the electromagnetic energy used in the launch. Suitable Shielding is being researched, but is so far unproductive.

Since the last communication, production estimates have increased by an additional $10 million dollars, do to unexpected delays, and technical difficulties.

Any questions about Railgun capabilities, if specific and relevant, will be discussed in future comunique`s.
Soviet alliance
08-01-2004, 11:30
how bout a satellite based launch nuke platform??? my scientist made a concept of it..
Kanuckistan
08-01-2004, 16:50
A railgun large enough to send a payload into orbit would requior a very large fixed instalation and a large nuclear powerplant to operate. The missile aspect could help, but if you can't insulate electronics for a guidance system, the missile ignition electronics will fry too, and a missile big enough to help much would itself be atleast several times larger than any tank. Also, all anti-aircraft missiles are guided; they wouldn't be able to hit a moving target otherwise.

Putting it on a tank is out of the question; and a walking tank? That's just silly; even the most basic walking tank would be more expensive to make and maintain, harder to maintain, more prove to break down, and more suseptible to damage.

The cost is also atleast several orders of magnitude too low, and by most standards, you should be atleast a month old befor you so much as think of touching nuclear-anything. For something like this, you should probally wait a bit longer than that, as it'd be alot more complex and expensive.
09-01-2004, 04:43
Not to mention having a walking tank places an incredible strain on the legs.

I anticipate a RPG to the legs will cripple the tank...
Kaukolastan
09-01-2004, 04:47
I'll just use some rope. If I'm feeling evil, I'll hit a leg with a shaped charge. If I'm being really nasty, I'll dig a damn pit.
09-01-2004, 05:08
Woo hoo! Walking nuclear mechs!

The cost to send ANYTHING into orbit, especially things that are supposed to come down somewhat accurately blow something up is astronomical. The first thing you need to do is research putting stuff into orbit without concern for where you put it! Let alone rocket assisted intercontinental rail gun artillery. I think you should start a little smaller, like perhaps with REGULAR ARTILLERY or maybe a TACTICAL ballistic missile!

Also, I was wondering about your room temperature superconductor, since it's just a little more complicated than simply declaring it to exist. People have been researching 1K (K stands for kelvin for non-engineering types) superconductors for a long long time and have only recently made any kind of significant advances in application of said materials. Oh yeah, and 1K is pretty close to the coldest possible temperature, so I really think you should back down on your superconductors for the next, oh, six months :lol: ...

And just for the record, if you do continue "developing" this absurdity, any use of said absurdity will result in the use of the infamous ignore cannon.

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/191203-ignorecannon.JPG
09-01-2004, 05:15
1k? aint everything superconductive at that temperature?
09-01-2004, 05:18
Metals and some (extremely exotic) ceramics, yes. The biggest problem with that is being able to get something that cold and then making it useful. Not many things can withstand that kind of temperature, especially nuclear weapons...
09-01-2004, 05:22
A nuclear mech? Uh.... sure....

<hey, when that ignore cannon is fired, aim for the head>
09-01-2004, 05:26
there are room temperature alloys - the problem is manufacturing techniques I believe. Theyre sitll very expensive - when you super cool something(the traditional way of attaining superconductivity) the material usually becomes brittle or the material housing the supercooled material becomes very brittle and cannot withstand any mechanical stress.

give it a fw more years and gradute students will work out a more cost effective room-temperature sc.

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21-01-2004, 01:51
you people are asumming that I mean to pay the people working on the projest, or for the materials.
Even if I did, Delvemarks spend bettewr in Dwarfmagia than elsewhere, and we already had an extensive spy-network in american colleges before we became a formal nation.
Dwarfmagia doesn't work like that. btw, anyone want to take 300 slightly radio-active dwarves off my hands?
Agrigento
21-01-2004, 01:54
ooc: Metal Gear Solid anyone???