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The Empress of Naori stepped off her private plane, to the greeting of her finest troops, the Elite 4th Division, and the new 1st Tank Division of 30 M-15 Light Tanks. As she waved to her troops, smiling, a bullet flew into her left eye. The upper-left quarter of her head was nearly taken off, and her brains and blood were splattered all over the white plane. He sister, the Dutchess of Iji, ran up the stairs and held the body of the Emporess. She was screaming and crying, as medical personal the body onto a strecher and took it too a military hospital. A doctor in the ambulence pronounced her dead while on the way to the hospital.

The assassin was not seen, nor was his weapon recovered. The spot from where the assassin fired his bullet was identified as a room from the Officers Quarters on the military base. Two officers were found dead in the room, their mouths gagged with socks, there throats slashed with a razor blade, which was recovered.

The assassin was seen fleeing in a military jeep, which was recovered twenty miles from the base just an hour later.

"Our beloved Empress, who was only just about to step foot on Naorian soil again, has been assassinated by the government of Galdania and their puppet of Southern Naori. Therefore, as the interim leader of our glorious Empire, it is my solem duty to launch reprisals against our brothers in the south. They have declared war upon us by taking our Goddess on Earth from us. They will pay with the blood of their children. I hereby order an all out invasion of the Communist Dictatorship of SOuthern naori. We will reclaim our lost honour, our lost territory, and avenge the memory of our martyred Empress!"

70 M-15 light tanks stormed the defences on the East c-oast, heading for Takihido. They were backed up by several B2 bombers, while patrol ships moved along the water, launching helicopters to back up the tanks.

(This link is for a map of Naori. I've changed the terrotory to show the North and South borders. Blue is me, red is Galdania/South Naori.)
http://www.freewebs.com/naori/Naori.jpg

OOC Your link loads up this page, not the map.....or at least it does for me....

How do you know it was the Communist Dictatorship of SOuthern naori? If you have proof I mite assist.

OOC: The map doesn't come up

How do you know it was the Communist Dictatorship of SOuthern naori? If you have proof I mite assist.

OOC: The map doesn't come up

OOC: just type http://www.freewebs.com/naori/ as the adress and it will show the map.

Naori, my entire region (the Snowy Lands of Antarctica), with a population of 2.1 billion is calling in our allies to defend you mainly against Galdania and his puppet South Naori. We will do this at all costs.

The Eredronian military force in Tarasaki and northern Naori will remain at high alert, but will not assist in this invasion.

Waxxistan, though still a very small country, deplores the assassination and offers our condolences to the country on Naori. Though we are unable to partake in any miltary action at this point, should our assistance be required sometime in the future we will be willing to assist.

Telegramed ya Naori...

The government of Centralis wishes to ask exactly what evidence there is of Galdanian and/or Southern Naorian compliocity in the assassination, given that none has been presented. Until credible evidence is presented, Centralis will in no way give support or encouragement to the invasion. Centralis military bases in Naori will not be made available to Naorian forces, and we shall provide no aid of any kind that might assist the invasion. We are also considering other measures to bring the invasion to an end as rapidly as possible.

- Andreas Von Weiser, Minister for International Affairs

Naori, my entire region (the Snowy Lands of Antarctica), with a population of 2.1 billion is calling in our allies to defend you mainly against Galdania and his puppet South Naori. We will do this at all costs.

OOC: Southern Naori is not 'his puppet'. Naori TOLD me to make it. I control it for RP purposes, but it is, RP-wise, independant.

IC: Galdania and our Southern Naorian allies are not in any way, shape, or form involved with this assassination. Naori has offered no proof as to any involvement of Galdania's GRA or Southern Naori's NRA.
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OOC: Dancing Moose, we are nearly the sizre of this region you speak of. Even if you do attack us, we could crush you.
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IC: 74 Galdanian BZ-12 heavy tanks...
http://www.impgames.com/Design%20Elements/Soviet%20IS-3%20Tank.gif
...engaged the Naorian forces, along with several other tanksand self-propelled guns.
http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:_tRr4KEr3cQC:www.cacheforce.com/150/k2.jpg
http://www.battletanks.com/images/ISU-152_Finningley_WEB.jpg
http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:TyoSgX7JoewC:members.lycos.nl/delem/hpbimg/king%2520tiger%2520tank%2520002.jpg

OOC: I just used WWII pics. MY tanks are much stronger.

OOC: Galdania, please check your telegrams.

The government of Centralis wishes to ask exactly what evidence there is of Galdanian and/or Southern Naorian compliocity in the assassination, given that none has been presented. Until credible evidence is presented, Centralis will in no way give support or encouragement to the invasion. Centralis military bases in Naori will not be made available to Naorian forces, and we shall provide no aid of any kind that might assist the invasion. We are also considering other measures to bring the invasion to an end as rapidly as possible.

- Andreas Von Weiser, Minister for International Affairs

We emplore Centralis to pull it's forces out of Naori. We will be launching counter-attacks, and we do not believe that your nation's troops deserve to be killed in this senseless war.

We have no intention of withdrawing from Naori at this point, but you may rest assured that unless justification for the invasion is provided, our troops will have no involvement and will remain within our own bases. These will be clearly identified and will be off-limits to Naorian forces for the duration of the war.

We have no intention of withdrawing from Naori at this point, but you may rest assured that unless justification for the invasion is provided, our troops will have no involvement and will remain within our own bases. These will be clearly identified and will be off-limits to Naorian forces for the duration of the war.

We will not cross the northern border with ground troops. Planes and artillery shells will pass over, however.

We have no intention of withdrawing from Naori at this point, but you may rest assured that unless justification for the invasion is provided, our troops will have no involvement and will remain within our own bases. These will be clearly identified and will be off-limits to Naorian forces for the duration of the war.

We will not cross the northern border with ground troops. Planes and artillery shells will pass over, however.

The Antarctica Defence Force is mobilizing its troops to free Naori from its invaders and restore the leader to her rightful place as empress of Naori.

Currently ~3 million troops are mobilizing to land on Naori to help defend it. Specs on the invasion will be posted soon. The troops along with naval and airforce support will be there tomorrow.

Shouldnt be too hard....

The all of the forces following this post will arrive tomorrow in the afternoon; U.S. central time.

In the response to the attacks made on Naori, the ADF (Antarctic Defense Force) is transporting the following units to Naori to restore order.

Army:
3,000,000 men
All armed with G-36 assault rifles
200,000 Penguin soldiers
1,700,000 Antarctic infantry
200,000 Artic Paratroopers
80,000 Arctic Wolf tanks (easy to produce)
200 M1A2 Abrams
1,500 Longbow assault choppers
833 Tigerlilly assault choppers
1,500 Chinook transport choppers
5,000 Hummers
1,000 Avenger LAVs
20 Patriot missiles
10,000 Javelin anti-tank weapons
850 Bradley Mobile Transports
250 HET Heavy Transports
90 M119a1 towed howitzer
40 Paladins

Air Force:
50,000 pilots
1,000 Seals
80,000 maintenance workers
500 MiG-29s
500 Arctic Hares (only available to our region)
100 F-16s
150 F-18s
50 F-111s
10 F117A Nighthawks
150 A-10s
20 Harrier GR7s
50 Jaguar GR3s
20 Tornado GR4s
150 Su-33s
100 Su-34s
50 DD1A

Navy:
1,500,000 personnel
7 Broadside class battleships
2 Hen Thai class submarines
2 Trafalgar submarines
10 Type 42 class destroyers
5 Albion class Assault ships
10 Type 23 Duke class frigates
2 AEGIS destroyers
5 Iowa Class destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
2 San Antonio Class AAS
2 Ticondura Class aircraft carriers
5 Nimitiz Class aircraft carriers
20,000 Arctic Fox transports

Special Forces (All Special Forces use SAW LMGs and Calico M960A assault rifles):
10,000 Arctic Force soldiers
10,000 Jungle Troopers
20,000 Antarctic Marines


Here is the Transport plan for invasion of Galdania:
1. All 28,000 transports will carry their full payload of 120 infantrymen plus all special
forces divisions
2. 8,020 of those will carry tanks
3. The remaining 9,980 transport not carrying tanks will carry 100 artillery
4. 96 of the 9,980 transports will carry artillery leaving 9,884 without tanks or artillery
5. Each transport, having a hanger for 1 helicopter, will carry the 2,500 helicopters
6. The 9,884 transports will carry the 7,000 assorted Assault vehicles
7. 350 of the 9,884 transports will carry assault vehicles
8. 6,000 transports are protected by 13 assorted ships forming a convoy

This is the transport being used specifications:
Antarctic Heavy Military Transport Frigates: Arctic Fox
Payload: 120 infantry; 10 Arctic Wolf tanks
Armament: One 5-inch guns forward; 8 radar directed miniguns broadsides
Dimensions: Ship is 400ft long, 40ft wide and has 3 decks; Topside deck having an
armored roof and housing all 120 infantryman; second deck holding all 10 tanks in 3
columns; third deck housing the ships 2 turbine engines
Crew: 50 crew housed in bunks in the 3rd deck and in 4th semi-deck topside which also houses the wheel, radar, and communications mechanisms

This force will remain behind-
Antarctic Home Guard:
500,000 Antarctic infantry
All armed With G-36 assault rifles
50,000 Arctic Wolf Tanks
600 M1A2 Abrams
60 Patriot missiles
200 M119A1 towed howitzers
70 Paladins
5,000 Javelin anti-tank weapons
2 spy planes
1 satellite
200 MiG-29s
150 B-52s
8 Broadside class Battleships
2 Hen Thai class submarines
2 AEGIS destroyers
5 Iowa class destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates

We will see who takes the glory from this field.

The Antarctica Defence Force is mobilizing its troops to free Naori from its invaders and restore the leader to her rightful place as empress of Naori.

Currently ~3 million troops are mobilizing to land on Naori to help defend it. Specs on the invasion will be posted soon. The troops along with naval and airforce support will be there tomorrow.

Shouldnt be too hard....

OOC: First of all, let me say that unless that constituted your entire regional army, there's no way you'd have that many troops - your nation simply isn't big enough to support it.

Secondly, I'd like to ask exactly how you plan to move 3 million troops and all the associated equipment into Naori over a period of one day.

Finally, could you please explain how the hell you managed to obtain 28000 transport vessels? How much, exactly, are they each supposed to cost? If they each cost, say, US $10 million, then the total of 28000 would cost $280 billion, and both maintenance and crew costs would be horrific (assuming one set of crew per vessel, and an average annual wage of $20 000, you'd be paying them $28 billion per year, not mention the difficulty of finding the 1.4 million people you'd need to crew them all).

P.S. Where exactly do you store them all when you're not using them? 28000 ships would take up a hell of a lot of room.

The government of Karakas calls on the warring parties to stand down and avoid further bloodshed in the settlement of this issue.

Since this nation's ally Centralis is involved, the government will be monitoring this situation closely.

-- Juan Valdez
Foreign Secretary
Capitalist States of Karakas

*The Plenzonian foriegn minister breathes a deep aggrivated sigh* If Naori wishes to break the cease-fire recently put into effect by these completely baseless accusations, Plenzonia will be forced to support Galdania and defend Southern Naori against their mindless attacks.

To their supporters; be warned, any invasion of Galdanian homesoil will be viewed as an invasion of Plenzonian soil, our people nor our government will tolerate such hostile forces so close to our home.

Regardless of this, we are willing to give all hostile forces time to stand down, supply evidence that the assination was done INTENTIONALLY by the Galdanian LEADERSHIP and not a CITIZEN. We believe this is a convenient ploy by Naori to reclaim the liberated southern area.

We suggest all supporters of Naori stay out and not to sully their nation's reputation by helping Naori in this ridiculous ploy, capitalizing on the death of their poor late empress.

Naori, my entire region (the Snowy Lands of Antarctica), with a population of 2.1 billion is calling in our allies to defend you mainly against Galdania and his puppet South Naori. We will do this at all costs. BAD MOOSE BAD BOY. don't speack out of turn until your entire region or delegate or current leader clarrifies your involvment

Open Communique

In light of the recent military offensive taken by elements of the Naori army loyal to the Imperial Government, which threatens to dash any hopes of a peaceful resolution, the Dominion and Principalities of Eredron believes the current Imperial government that was allowed to be reestablished does not have the ability to govern or to control its military forces. As such, Eredron is formally assuming responsibility again as a provisional governing force, until a suitable administration can be formed to assume responsibility over northern Naori.

Thousands of troops are moving from Tarasaki to take up station in cities throughout North Naori, acting as a police force.

All foreign powers sending or preparing to send troops into Naori are hereby notified their troops will not be permitted to land, in order to prevent the current peace process from being unduly interrupted; Eredron and Centralis are prepared and ready to defend North Naori and provide the necessary authority for an effective governing body.

OOC: Shioxia, Dancing Moose, all ignored.

IC: Galdanian forces fired artillery from Takahido, aimed at any attacking forces and their supply lines.
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/krauss/krauss4.jpg

Galdanian tanks outnumbered the Naorians, and attempted to encircle them while firing their cannons at the M-15s.

Bombing runs began against any known military sites or 'areas of interest' picked up by Galdanian sattelites. A reconissance drone plane was shot down over the east coast, either by Naori or Eredron.
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We are being attacked by the Empire of Naori for no reason at all. They have lost the Civil War, and attacking thir more successful neighbors will only result in the total destruction of the Naorian Empire.

We're Prospering. Are you? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112420&highlight=)

The Antarctica Defence Force is mobilizing its
troops to free Naori from its invaders and restore the leader to her rightful place as
empress of Naori.

Currently ~3 million troops are mobilizing to land on Naori to help defend it. Specs on the
invasion will be posted soon. The troops along with naval and airforce support will be
there tomorrow.

Shouldnt be too hard....

OOC: First of all, let me say that unless that constituted your entire regional army, there's
no way you'd have that many troops - your nation simply isn't big enough to support it.

Secondly, I'd like to ask exactly how you plan to move 3 million troops and all the
associated equipment into Naori over a period of one day.

Finally, could you please explain how the hell you managed to obtain 28000 transport
vessels? How much, exactly, are they each supposed to cost? If they each cost, say, US
$10 million, then the total of 28000 would cost $280 billion, and both maintenance
and crew costs would be horrific (assuming one set of crew per vessel, and an average
annual wage of $20 000, you'd be paying them $28 billion per year, not mention the
difficulty of finding the 1.4 million people you'd need to crew them all).

P.S. Where exactly do you store them all when you're not using them? 28000 ships would
take up a hell of a lot of room.

OOC: Galdania, you are going to have us a relavent reason for ignoring us. As for what your saying Centralis, those troops do constitute our entire regions army, as do all of our other forces. As for the transports, we’ve had them, and when we need more we make them because I myself designed them and drew them up. All of the ships are obviously
stored in dockyards across the region. If we ever need extra space, then we drydock them. Ive already posted the transport plan we are using to insert these troops into Naori, the forces that will be inserted, and the specs on the transport ive already designed. Ive spaced out the attack into three waves, which the troops have been calculated into on the
transport plan. As for the time it takes for transporting them, one day is plenty enough time. After all, a day in real life is a year in NationStates. I dont appreciate these accusations and me and others in my region (those who I have divided a marginal control of the forces upon) will act accordingly as soon as our forces arrive.

Ok Centralis to answer your questions:

1. Yes this is my regions military
2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.
3. 28,000 ships could easily be stored in drydocks.
4. 3 million troops really isnt that many when you consider are regional pop is 2.2 billion. With 5% of that pop our military could be HUGE but we decided to make a smaller military that is very well equipped.
5. We made the transports, costing 50 million a transport. The average nation in our regions economy is "Good" so our combined GDP's could easily afford to make the transports and store them.

Ok Centralis to answer your questions:

1. Yes this is my regions military
2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.
3. 28,000 ships could easily be stored in drydocks.
4. 3 million troops really isnt that many when you consider are regional pop is 2.2 billion. With 5% of that pop our military could be HUGE but we decided to make a smaller military that is very well equipped.
5. We made the transports, costing 50 million a transport. The average nation in our regions economy is "Good" so our combined GDP's could easily afford to make the transports and store them.

OOC: Irregardless of this, any foreign power who lands, or attempts to land, a military force in Naori will face an immediate declaration of war from me.

Eredon, our forces are trying to free Naori not take it.

By getting rid of Galdania and South Naori's presence Naori can rightfully reclaim what she lost because of these two aggressors.

Let me reiterate for the last time: the intervention of foreign powers into the conflict and situation surrounding Naori and The Shining War is considered unacceptable.

OOC:

Ok Centralis to answer your questions:

1. Yes this is my regions military

In that case, #3 & #4 lose all relevance.

2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.

Then I hate to break it to you, but you'll arriving very late. The idea that such a war would take years to resolve rather than days or weeks is absurd, and if your troops arrived a year after it began, you'd find things had been over for ages.

5. We made the transports, costing 50 million a transport. The average nation in our regions economy is "Good" so our combined GDP's could easily afford to make the transports and store them.

Uh... did you actually do the maths to figure out exactly how much your transports would cost? At $50 million each, the 28 000 that you claim to have would cost a total of $1.4 trillion. If you had a GDP per capita of around $20 000, and a military budget of around 5% of your total GDP, obtaining those transports would have cost you over half your annual miltiary budget... and assuming maintenance costs of 10% of original procurement costs, you'd be paying another $140 billion per year in maintenance, which, while not crippling, would greatly reduce your capacity to buy other things.

We're Prospering. Are you? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112420&highlight=)

Nice. Pity you forgot to mention that Southern Naori is currently an economic basket-case which would be completely dependent on Galdanian aid to maintain decent living standards.

IC: Centralis stands with Eredron on the Naorian conflict: the present government of northern Naori must be removed, in the interests of peace, and any foreign powers who enter Northern Naori with the intention of waging war shall be fired upon. You have been warned.

- Andreas Von Weiser, Minister for International Affairs

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In order to secure Northern Naori against outside interference, the Ministry for Defence has announced the despatch of another 400 000 ground troops with full armour and artillery support to the main Centralis bases near Tarasaki. They are expected to arrive over the next three to four days.

- Excerpt from a random daily newspaper

2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.

Then I hate to break it to you, but you'll arriving very late. The idea that such a war would take years to resolve rather than days or weeks is absurd, and if your troops arrived a year after it began, you'd find things had been over for ages.

Shinoxia was just saying how it is. He wouldnt find that it would have been over for ages, this war is taking years, obvioulsy because no treatys or negotiations have been talked of.

OOC:

Ok Centralis to answer your questions:

1. Yes this is my regions military

In that case, #3 & #4 lose all relevance.

2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.

Then I hate to break it to you, but you'll arriving very late. The idea that such a war would take years to resolve rather than days or weeks is absurd, and if your troops arrived a year after it began, you'd find things had been over for ages.

5. We made the transports, costing 50 million a transport. The average nation in our regions economy is "Good" so our combined GDP's could easily afford to make the transports and store them.

Uh... did you actually do the maths to figure out exactly how much your transports would cost? At $50 million each, the 28 000 that you claim to have would cost a total of $1.4 trillion. If you had a GDP per capita of around $20 000, and a military budget of around 5% of your total GDP, obtaining those transports would have cost you over half your annual miltiary budget... and assuming maintenance costs of 10% of original procurement costs, you'd be paying another $140 billion per year in maintenance, which, while not crippling, would greatly reduce your capacity to buy other things.

Indeed, but my region is different than others. We share our money which allows for us to afford many things that alone we couldnt buy.

Again, our regions economy is very good. We have many "thriving" and most are at least "Good". So we dont have too much problem buying things. Also what you failed to include is money from exports. My region has sold millions of tanks and other arctic gear. A former nation gave me his storefront in which I make billions off of. While having all those transports would cost alot not all are active. Keeping transports in dry docks does not cost as much to maintain as keeping them in the water. That cuts spending down alot.....

And the day=year thing is very much accepted by most on NS so my timing isnt off. Also, remember I said I could get there easily in a year I didnt say that it would take a whole year.

BTW Im curious as to this being an invite only RP?

2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.

Then I hate to break it to you, but you'll arriving very late. The idea that such a war would take years to resolve rather than days or weeks is absurd, and if your troops arrived a year after it began, you'd find things had been over for ages.

Shinoxia was just saying how it is. He wouldnt find that it would have been over for ages, this war is taking years, obvioulsy because no treatys or negotiations have been talked of.

Well pardon me, but I was under the impression that NS was supposed to bear some resemblance to the real world, as opposed to, say, Civ. In anything vaguely approximating RL, this war wouldn't have taken more than few days so far, not years.



Indeed, but my region is different than others. We share our money which allows for us to afford many things that alone we couldnt buy.

I have no idea what relevance this is supposed to have. I was going by the amount of money your entire region could get together to pay for all this.

Again, our regions economy is very good. We have many "thriving" and most are at least "Good". So we dont have too much problem buying things. Also what you failed to include is money from exports. My region has sold millions of tanks and other arctic gear. A former nation gave me his storefront in which I make billions off of.

Why should I include that? I'm using your total GDP, which includes, by definition, money that you make from exports

While having all those transports would cost alot not all are active. Keeping transports in dry docks does not cost as much to maintain as keeping them in the water. That cuts spending down alot.....

Ok, I'll accept that point, but the fact remains that having such a vast transport fleet would be a huge drain, even (or especially) when most of it isn't in use.

And the day=year thing is very much accepted by most on NS so my timing isnt off.

If you can show me a single serious war RP where that has been used, I'll concede the point. Until then, I will continue pointing out what is quite self-evident: the idea that this war would be taking years is bollocks.

2. 1 day=1 NS year, a year to move that many soldiers, easily done.

Then I hate to break it to you, but you'll arriving very late. The idea that such a war would take years to resolve rather than days or weeks is absurd, and if your troops arrived a year after it began, you'd find things had been over for ages.

Shinoxia was just saying how it is. He wouldnt find that it would have been over for ages, this war is taking years, obvioulsy because no treatys or negotiations have been talked of.

Well pardon me, but I was under the impression that NS was supposed to bear some resemblance to the real world, as opposed to, say, Civ. In anything vaguely approximating RL, this war wouldn't have taken more than few days so far, not years.



Indeed, but my region is different than others. We share our money which allows for us to afford many things that alone we couldnt buy.

I have no idea what relevance this is supposed to have. I was going by the amount of money your entire region could get together to pay for all this.

Again, our regions economy is very good. We have many "thriving" and most are at least "Good". So we dont have too much problem buying things. Also what you failed to include is money from exports. My region has sold millions of tanks and other arctic gear. A former nation gave me his storefront in which I make billions off of.

Why should I include that? I'm using your total GDP, which includes, by definition, money that you make from exports

While having all those transports would cost alot not all are active. Keeping transports in dry docks does not cost as much to maintain as keeping them in the water. That cuts spending down alot.....

Ok, I'll accept that point, but the fact remains that having such a vast transport fleet would be a huge drain, even (or especially) when most of it isn't in use.

And the day=year thing is very much accepted by most on NS so my timing isnt off.

If you can show me a single serious war RP where that has been used, I'll concede the point. Until then, I will continue pointing out what is quite self-evident: the idea that this war would be taking years is bollocks.

Ok Ill give you the war taking weeks not years point...

But keeping transports inactive would not be a "huge drain", the cost of maintaining them goes down because their not consuming fuel and being maintained as much for technical reasons.

Remember, our military in comparison with the population is not that big. This would allow for more spending on equipment. Id also like to point out that my military defence budget as well as that of my region is 15% of our money.

But keeping transports inactive would not be a "huge drain", the cost of maintaining them goes down because their not consuming fuel and being maintained as much for technical reasons.

Yes, it would go down, for the reasons you mentioned, but at the same time you would be getting nothing out of them. They'd just be sitting there, taking up money and room, doing nothing, while their crews would also be doing nothing, and probably getting very bored and rusty as a result.

Remember, our military in comparison with the population is not that big. This would allow for more spending on equipment. Id also like to point out that my military defence budget as well as that of my region is 15% of our money.

15% of your budget, or 15% of GDP? The former may or may not be realistic, depending on how big your budget is, but the latter is ridiculous - even Israel only spends 8.75% of it's GDP on the miltiary, and it's a country in the middle of a war and propped up by American aid, and such levels of spending still aren't doing their economy any good. Spending 15% of your GDP on the military effectively means sending 15% of it down the drain; it produces very little, economically, and what it does produce is produced very inefficiently.

We're Prospering. Are you? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112420&highlight=)

Nice. Pity you forgot to mention that Southern Naori is currently an economic basket-case which would be completely dependent on Galdanian aid to maintain decent living standards.

Quite true. Of course, we are phasing out the use of 'money' in Southern Naori. While Naorian homes are missing T.V.'s and computers, EVERYONE has clean water, food, shelter, plumbing, and electricity.

It's not perfect like Galdania, but it's on the right path.

I would also like to point out that the first three pages of 'The Shining War' thread took up only about a single day. I assume that things have sped up slightly, but my impression was that the war had so far taken no more than six months so far.

I'd say the actual war had taken rather less time, with periodic intervals for cease-fires, negotiations, regrouping, etc.

http://www.ccj39.com/download/civ3/units/tiger_2.jpg
Galdanian tanks stormed into the Naorian ones, with missile-infantry backing htem up.
http://www.ccj39.com/download/civ3/units/american_antitank.jpg

To ensure continuing control of the situation, the Karakas Defense Department has authorized the deployment of two (of six) carrier battle groups to North Naori. These will reinforce the Centralian and Eredronian presence in the region.

Additionally, a Marine expeditionary force has been deployed and is en route to Tarasaki. Their current mission is to reinforce Centralian positions only; they are under orders not to engage any South Naori or Galdanian forces unless fired upon.

-- Kathryn Harridge
Defense Dept. Spokesperson
Capitalist States of Karakas

ooc: Unless you'ver been at the original Shining War thread, you have no place in this thread. I'll allow Karakas, because he can fit in, RP wiose.

BTW, this war should be over by tommorow.

BUMP. Surprised no one posted for a few days.

OOC: I haven't been able to access the forum for a few days, it's gotten much worse then usual, besides I think everyone is keeping out of this one so no one has much reason to post.

OOC: I haven't been able to access the forum for a few days, it's gotten much worse then usual, besides I think everyone is keeping out of this one so no one has much reason to post.

Well, Centralis, Eredron, that K-something ally of Centralis, me, Naori, and my allies are still invovled.

Naori's been saying that he's going to end it...I hope we can actually 'finish' the RP, rather than simply 'end' it.

I hope this doesn't just fade away...that's the worst kind of death for an RP, because it isn't really even a death.

Galdania, check your TGs.

FEI (For Everybody's Information), Eredron and Galdania have just signed a peace treaty.