NationStates Jolt Archive


War with Mestionian Looms

04-01-2004, 01:45
A Mestionian spy was recently captured outside of a Rebelandi military complex. Before the spy was subdued he killed five Rebelandi soldiers. The spy made an attempt to escape from one of our ships, which was transporting the spy, and drowned. Our military intelligence has found that the spy was working with the Mestionian government, and was not "rogue" as they had said he was. As such, Mestionian violated the Anti-Espionage act of 1999, an offense punishable by military action. However, we wish for Mestionian to be put on trial in international courts, but Mestionian refuses to go to court, yet insists they are innocent. If Mestionian does not comply we will have no choice but to launch a full-scale military campaign on their land.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 01:54
Your account is not accurate. The prisoner was killed by Mestionian guards during an attempted escape while in the custody of the Royal Army. Two Mestionian guardsmen were killed trying to subdue the alleged spy and gave their lives to protect soldiers of Rebeland, of which only one was injured. The Kingdom of Mestionian is prepared to defend her lands at all costs should this poorly disguised act of agression by the tyrannical government of Rebeland. Mestionian asks for the aid of all free, peace-loving nations of the world to counter this blind hatred on the part of our hateful enemies.
04-01-2004, 02:00
You send a homicidal spy to steal military information from me, and IM tyrannical?!? Oh and by the way, here are the other nations that you will be dealing with, should a war unfold: (militantatopian alliance)
Kleptocratopia
Plutonesia
Utopaland
Sucroseland
Calamitous Shadows
Economicdetriment
Triscuitaphia
Soiled
Artilleryland
Acornacopia
Militantevil
Distortatopia
Affluentatopia
Maomarxland
Deathtoterror
Intellectatopia

So before you call me tyrannical after killing my people, think about who you are messing with.
Doujin
04-01-2004, 02:01
You send a homicidal spy to steal military information from me, and IM tyrannical?!? Oh and by the way, here are the other nations that you will be dealing with, should a war unfold: (militantatopian alliance)
Kleptocratopia
Plutonesia
Utopaland
Sucroseland
Calamitous Shadows
Economicdetriment
Triscuitaphia
Soiled
Artilleryland
Acornacopia
Militantevil
Distortatopia
Affluentatopia
Maomarxland
Deathtoterror
Intellectatopia

So before you call me tyrannical after killing my people, think about who you are messing with.

My question is how many of those are your puppets. Several that have posted in the previous thread were born on the same date with 1-10 posts. Hmm, I wonder....
Central Facehuggeria
04-01-2004, 02:02
Central Facehuggeria supports Mestonian. However, as we are currently involved in a total war RP; we won't be able to send too much. Mestonian has the exact numbers from a TG.

Secondly, Is there no more peaceful solution to this disagreement?
04-01-2004, 02:05
First, the only puppet that Rebeland has is New Rebeland (and they are not listed as an "ally"). Second, I wish to solve this peacefully but Mestionian refuses to stand trial for the violation of an international law. This is absolutely preposterous. How can you say you are "innocent" and then refuse to stand trial? It would be an international court.
Chochezkoo
04-01-2004, 02:09
After a thourough investigation, Chochezkoo has no choice but to ally themselves with Mestionian.
04-01-2004, 02:11
This whole thing could be avoided if Mestionian would go to trial.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:12
The Kingdom of Mestionian has no desire for war, but we will fight to the last man to protect our honor, people, and land. Rebeland would be mistaken if they were to think the conquest of Mestionian an easy task.
Mekanta
04-01-2004, 02:14
"The Holy Empire of Mekanta is VERY tempted to send an infiltrator to Rebeland to place a giant 'Here Be a Nation of Man' sign with a small inscription reading 'Look out for falling rocks'."

"The Central Facehuggeria ambassador knows all too well what we speak of..."
04-01-2004, 02:15
Mestionian, don't respond until you read this: If you go to trial there is no need for war.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:16
King Dirk, son of Urul, ruler of Greater Mestionian would rather see his great nation destroyed than willingly participate in the public questioning of his people's honor. If our word is not enough to quell your suspicions, then we stand prepared to face your armies head on.
04-01-2004, 02:18
So be it. I can't believe you would rather go into a pseudo-apocalyptic war instead of going to trial. Nonetheless, 110,000 Rebelandi troops are on standby, and 120 B-52's are on red alert.
04-01-2004, 02:22
Holy crud, this thing developed fast! Oh well, kleptocratopia has put 185,000 Elite Shock Troops on stand by
22 Abrahms tanks on stand by
Iowa class Battleship positioned in international waters off of Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:22
The only b52's the people of Davarina have are the drinks lined up. I'm pretty sure our military consists of a single janitor who keeps the flag clean, but I could be wrong.
Rotovia
04-01-2004, 02:25
"The government of Rotovia is willing to offer our Diplomatic Plaza as a neutral venue for your nations to meet and peacefully resolve this dispute before it is nessacary for the full force of our military to subdue it."

Senator Julia Aptiva
Vice President of Rotovia
04-01-2004, 02:28
Rebeland has tried to discuss peace with mestionian but it was to no avail.
Central Facehuggeria
04-01-2004, 02:34
OOC: Ay Carumba!

Where is the proof that the spy was acting on behalf of the Mestonian government?
San Texario
04-01-2004, 02:37
You send a homicidal spy to steal military information from me, and IM tyrannical?!? Oh and by the way, here are the other nations that you will be dealing with, should a war unfold: (militantatopian alliance)
Kleptocratopia
Plutonesia
Utopaland
Sucroseland
Calamitous Shadows
Economicdetriment
Triscuitaphia
Soiled
Artilleryland
Acornacopia
Militantevil
Distortatopia
Affluentatopia
Maomarxland
Deathtoterror
Intellectatopia

So before you call me tyrannical after killing my people, think about who you are messing with.

Who you are messing with? Who he is messing with is 16 nations, not all of which are here, with populations none of which have more than 40 million, and therefore have quite small armies. Now, I am siding with Mestionian, but if you do have a trial, I will offer my supreme courthouse for the venue. Now, back down Rebelland, my army can defeat your alliance easily. Back down. Take their word or embrace your destruction. I warn you, I will move my airforce, 700,000 space/atmosphere fighers and bombers, to your area, as well as some of my orbital weapons. Back down from this war or you shall be put out of it first.
Chochezkoo
04-01-2004, 02:38
We would not need peace talks if not for Your Warmongering. I seriously hope that all of you listening would not be so shallow as to give into Rebeland's false accusations.

They only gave you half of the story. Rebeland did not mention that the 5 rebeland officers that died did not actually die when the prisoner was escaping extradition.

During extradition, one rebeland guard was wounded and two of mestionian's guards died defending the wounded.

OOC: There is actually two much longer threads that are more in depth, but rebeland chose to create a new one so none of the information on those threads could not be used against him.
04-01-2004, 02:39
When the spy was captured, Rebelandi officials found a Mestonian pass port, a memo from the Mestonian Special Forces with his objectives and where to find certain information, he also wore Mestonian dog tags, and had 25,000 dollars in Mestonian currency (along with an extra 15,000 in fangs-Rebelandi currency). On top of the afforementioned he carried an AK-47, and several small arms indigenous to the Mestonian Special Forces.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:39
The nation of Rebeland is an opressive regime whose only goal is to annex territory to place under its iron boot. Mestionian has striven for peace, lending its support to just causes around the world when she could afford to do so. The only peace that is acceptable to the people of Mestionian is the complete withdrawl of all foreign military from our waters. We have done nothing illegal, and find the willingness of so many nations to back such an action disturbing. We are a small nation, our military is comprised of a total of 130,000 men including our Mayoru allies. However, it would be wise to consider our terms, as any direct action against us will cost far more than anything you might gain through victory. Once again, we have no desire for war, enough blood has been spilled in the name of this one alleged spy.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:41
The gentleman from Rebeland is blantantly lying to the nations of the world. I shall return within the hour with information, released by the government of Rebeland, that completely contradicts their last accusation.
Chochezkoo
04-01-2004, 02:42
Here they are

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111011&highlight=





http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110996&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
04-01-2004, 02:43
Militantatopian battleships are in international water.
Why would Rebeland want to annex Mestionian? You are about 3,000 miles away from where we are, and Rebelandees don't like the pacific. We have irrefutable evidence that this spy was associated with your government, we wish for peace as well, but you have pushed us to the brink of war.
Central Facehuggeria
04-01-2004, 02:47
Where is this "irrefutable evidence"? The evidence you have provided so far doesn't really seem that credible. Why would a spy, especially a government trained and funded spy carry identification that could trace him back to his employers (dogtags, special forces memos, etc.) ? This smells like a frame up.
04-01-2004, 02:48
Those threads contradict nothing I have said. Upon further investigation Rebeland had found the spy to be Mestionian. We said he had an AK-47 and several small arms, and after looking through more of his baggage we found the passport and the money, along with the memo.
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:48
Four hours ago in the outskirts of Rebeland's capital city a "spy" was captured. This man had been found in the ducts of a Rebelandi military building recording conversations. His nationality has not yet been determined. This spy was armed with a kalashnikov AK-47, and several small arms. It was quite obvious that his intent was hostile, when he killed five Rebelandi officials when pursued. This is an obvious violation of the 1999 Anti-Espionage bill. The nation responsible will face severe consequences.


Words spoken by the nation of Rebeland. Now, if he carried a Mestionian passport as you claim, how could his nationality not be confirmed? Additionally, Mestionian does not have a special forces unit in her army, as we have no need for one due to our lack of military conflict. And of course let us not forget that Mestionian does not use the Ak-47 assault rifle as her staple weapon, she chooses instead to opt for the M16A2, a fact that has been cited more than a few times.
04-01-2004, 02:50
The AK-47 is enigmatic to our nation as well, but the passport and the briefing memo are incriminating.
Slavgova
04-01-2004, 02:52
Slavgova supports the Mestionian people, we are readying our 3rd Recon Battalion 7th Airborne Regiment, and 9th Infantry Division , our 1st Marine Amphibious Assault Group, and are deploying elements of the 3rd Naval Group to assist you in case hostilities commence. However, we hope that peaceful avenues can be persued to avoid needless bloodshed.
Central Facehuggeria
04-01-2004, 02:53
But why would a spy carry a real passport and a memo from a non-existant special forces group? Typically, spies carry nothing that could be traced back to their operating government.
Chochezkoo
04-01-2004, 02:53
Those threads contradict nothing I have said. Upon further investigation Rebeland had found the spy to be Mestionian. We said he had an AK-47 and several small arms, and after looking through more of his baggage we found the passport and the money, along with the memo.


I respect the mestionian intelligence department to know that none of their expertly trained officers would ever carry incriminating information, or objects
Mestionian
04-01-2004, 02:54
Either you here lying then, or you are lying now. Either you knew his nationality, and lied to the world earlier this week, or you have simply conjurred a reason to go to war by lying to the world tonight by claiming that the man in question carried documents from the Kingdom of Mestionian. In any event, you have lied to the entire world in the past, for what reason should they support a nation that would lead their men to possible death on false pretenses?
04-01-2004, 02:56
When the spy was captured, Rebelandi officials found a Mestonian pass port, a memo from the Mestonian Special Forces with his objectives and where to find certain information, he also wore Mestonian dog tags, and had 25,000 dollars in Mestonian currency (along with an extra 15,000 in fangs-Rebelandi currency). On top of the afforementioned he carried an AK-47, and several small arms indigenous to the Mestonian Special Forces.


What kind of spy would carry that stuff? obviously not a very proffesional one, a real spy would be nearly completely integrated into the culture that he would be spying in. It is highly unlikely that this is an actual Mestonian spy. To me this appears to be a not to elaborate set up.
04-01-2004, 02:58
very well, we advertised the spy earlier this week with ambiguity, we wanted to see if the nation responsible would come forward uninstigated.
04-01-2004, 03:21
In response to MCCR:

Of course he was not a very professional spy, he got caught! Besides, the nation he hails from only has a population of 8,000,000 people, so they probably don't have enough money to train someone adequately.
Mekanta
04-01-2004, 03:27
"It is obvious the nation of Rebeland is simply making excuses and manufacturing false 'evidence' to support their weak case."

"While we are occupied with another war, we will dispatch forces to Mestionian's aid if you attack."
04-01-2004, 03:33
The United States of Witticism offers its support to Mestionian. The Rebeland regime is oppressive and deprives its people of every imaginable freedom. Of the two factions at war, it is evident which is the just one.

We offer Mestionian humanitarian aid and military exports. Our nation is advanced in the military category with staple equipment such as the M16-A2, M1A2 Abrams and AH64 Apache Longbow. Military support will be deployed as requested. Trade of military goods is offered at a discount in this trying time.

C-130 cargo planes are on resupply missions to Mestionian, bringing with them ammunition, blankets, medical equipment and food.
Chochezkoo
04-01-2004, 03:38
OOC: I'm gonna make an RP topic for this
Shinoxia
04-01-2004, 03:44
I speak on behalf of the 34 nations in The Snowy Lands of Antarctica

We believe you have a bad reason to attack Rebeland and we will help Mestionian.

My region has a large military and will use it on defence of Mestionian.
04-01-2004, 03:48
This thread is over. Everyone start replying to "war in mestionian"