Cayo will not withdraw from Hoko Island
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
People,
For the last few weeks I have recieved much criticism for my decision to annex Hoko Island, which lies around 90 miles off the west coast of Cayo Island. I wish to formally address this issue.
Hoko has always been Cayan territory, that is until the Cayan dictator Fulangico Pepito came into power around 20 years ago. In order to line his own pocket he sold Hoko Island to Aristocrats on the island who set up a puppet parliament and declared Hoko independant.
Now, Pepito is out of power, and Cayo wishes to bring Hoko back into the Socialist Motherland. Hoko by right belongs to Cayo. I will not remove Cayan troops from Hoko Island. Hoko's 20 000 citizens are now under our benevolant socialist rule.
I have been threatened with military action. If one foreign soldier or missile lands on Cayo or Hoko I will authorise Operation Red to begin. That is any attempted liberation of Hoko will result in immediate destruction of all Hoko's villages, towns, capital and livestock. Every missile which lands on Cayan territory and every troop that sets foot on Cayan territory will result in the Kull of ten Hoko citizens.
If the international community minds their business and does not interfierre with this situation all Hoko citizens will be treated as Cayan citizen.
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:07
Falastur has noted this conflict, and proposes to Cayo that a decent and fair solution to this would be to have the population of Hoko Island vote on who they wish to govern them. If they vote against you. bu law you should withdraw. We will oversee this if necessary. I am trying to avert war and protect the citizens, I aim to avoid war at all costs. What do you say?
Shinoxia
03-01-2004, 02:08
While Shinoxia and the other nations in my region agree with your right to rule Hoko we do not believe you should kill their citizens in retribution.
If Hoko's military makes an attack on Cayo Ill help.
Wow Im actually helping a commie......
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:08
If Hoko's military makes an attack on Cayo Ill help.
Help who?
Shinoxia
03-01-2004, 02:14
If Hoko's military makes an attack on Cayo Ill help.
Help who?
LoL good point. :wink:
Cayo
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:18
Cayo. I offer one more solution, noticing as I do that you have placed a nuke inside of Hoko City. You evacuate all 20,000 of Hoko's citizens. We would take them in, or they can go to any other country that they choose. After that, you may have your island. Nuke it if you want, afterwards. You'll find yourself being bombed to oblivion, but if the citizens are safe, that is no longer my problem.
What do you think?
No Cayo.
I will launch nukes if you dont withdraw them. :lol:
It is not in my interest to remove Hokoians from their island. I would rather the international community accept Cayos right to govern the island.
I will only authorise the implimentation of Operation Red if Cayo or Hoko are attacked.
We are not killing citizens, but will do so if we feel under threat ( a sort of insurance policy if you will)
As for the nuclear warhead present in Hoko City, it is only there to discourage any invader from setting foot in Hoko City.
As I said. Keep away and all Hoko citizens will be treated fairly. I have already had the Hoko government tried and executed for treason and the Hoko parliament has been dissolved.
Central Facehuggeria
03-01-2004, 02:30
As I said. Keep away and all Hoko citizens will be treated fairly. I have already had the Hoko government tried and executed for treason and the Hoko parliament has been dissolved.
I think that line speaks for itself.
Grays Hill
03-01-2004, 02:32
If you launch a nuke at him, then you will find yourself dead before your nuke makes impact. I believe that he has all right to be there.
Ahhh, The Anti Terror Army. If one nuclear missile should land on Cayo I will not only launch every last missile I have on you I will also obliterate Hoko Island and her population.
There is a choice here, stay away, mind your own buisiness and then I can assure peace and equality for all citizens. If not, then I will be forced to make Hoko pay for other nations interfierrence.
"Think logically."
"If you destroy Hoko, Cayo will be destroyed."
"The moment you begin slaughtering civillians, you will be undoubtably be invaded. You are powerless against the kind of forces aligning against you."
"You will comply."
(OOC: And besides, aren't you a bit young to have nukes?)
Central Facehuggeria
03-01-2004, 02:36
Technically, he is a month old :wink:
Firstly I have already explained how Cayo has access to nuclear arms, and I have said that numbers are small compared to most nations.
As I said, I am not going to start the slaughter of civilians unless CAYO IS ATTACKED OR INVADED FIRST!!!!!!
Hoko Island belongs to Cayo by right. I wish to treat all Hoko Islanders fairly and give them all the benifits to be had from re-union with Cayo that they never had before, such as a state health service, free education, social security.
All I have said is that if Cayo is attacked because of this situation we will discourage such action through execution of civilians on Hoko and if Hoko should be invaded we will destroy everything lest it should fall into the hands of an invading force.
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:40
Yes, Cayo, listen to Mekanta. This is stupid. Why would you take out a nation of 20,000 when you would face certain death. It is pointless. You can save your own death and the deaths of every signle one of your citizens. All you have to do is to withdraw. Then you won't have to die, and you can go on to other things. Death is the end. Hoko doesn't have to be.
"And yet you claim to be a benevolent regime. You claim to treat the citizens of Hoko fairly."
"The Holy Empire of Mekanta's primary nodes have all come into agreement on this issue. We wish to send an observation team to Hoko to ensure the safety of Hoko's people."
"Confirm yes or no."
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:44
Firstly I have already explained how Cayo has access to nuclear arms, and I have said that numbers are small compared to most nations.
As I said, I am not going to start the slaughter of civilians unless CAYO IS ATTACKED OR INVADED FIRST!!!!!!
Hoko Island belongs to Cayo by right. I wish to treat all Hoko Islanders fairly and give them all the benifits to be had from re-union with Cayo that they never had before, such as a state health service, free education, social security.
All I have said is that if Cayo is attacked because of this situation we will discourage such action through execution of civilians on Hoko and if Hoko should be invaded we will destroy everything lest it should fall into the hands of an invading force.
Quality of life is a secondary concern to what you would do to keep power. If you would detonate a nuke in order to show your power, then obviously your quality of life is not worth it.
I am giving you every opportunity to avoid this. Please, save grace and your life while you can.
I will not withdraw my forces from Hoko Island as I maintain that Hoko belongs to Cayo by right. I will however allow the following to take place.
1 - I will allow the United Nations to send a deligation to Hoko Island to show that Hoko citizens are being treated fairly.
2- I will withdraw the nuclear warhead from Hoko City.
3- I will hold a confrence in Hoko City to which all nations who wish are invited to attend to discuss this issue.
4- I will, if nations do not launch an attack against Cayo or Hoko, scrap Operation Red.
5- I will allow any Hoko citizens who wish to leave this island.
Falastur
03-01-2004, 02:51
I recommend, in the interests of diplomacy, that you start a vote on Hoko Island to see whether the native population wish to join you or not. However, I acknowledge all of your efforts, and commend you for your diplomacy as opposed to your military. We will send a Delegate along with others from other nations to inspect the welfare of the people, and will send a further Delegation to attend your conference.
Automagfreek
03-01-2004, 03:01
We have heard about this incident, and have been watching it closely. Politicaly, we support Cayo 100%. Cayo, if you should need military assistance if anything does happen, the Excessively Armed Empire will commit.
Good day.
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Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D
Grays Hill
03-01-2004, 03:14
I also believe that Cayo has every right to be there. We also will give military assistence if needed.
Zvarinograd
03-01-2004, 03:23
"I don't like it one bit." A man in a highly decorated military uniform lights a cigarette, smoking it briefly, "Automagfreek is normally quiet in affairs that do not concern them."
"Maybe he's planning to stab Cayo in the back as he wastes away his forces in Hutu? I don't know, it seems unlikely either, they wouldn't need to waste their time on them as they can as easily wipe Cayo off the face of the planet with a nuclear strike."
"We'll have to increase espionage in the Automagfreek homeland and assign one of the military GPS sattelites we sent up to monitor AMF 24/7."
"Dah."
"We believe Cayo has rights to the island, but his threats against the citizens is intolorable. We are pleased he has vowed to remove the nuclear warhead."
"A Mekantan observation team has been dispatched."
"Good day."
Secret meeting between El Presidente and the Internal Affairs Minister.
"Presidente, this whole Hoko situation is working very well for us it seems, it is starting to cause division between nations."
"Indeed, we are making as many allies as we are enemies minister."
"What of the promises you made concerning Hoko?"
"Never mind minister, remove the nuke and allow the world to snoop around for a while. They will soon grow tired and look away."
"Then what Presidente?"
"Then we snatch total control, we crack down on opposition and complete our plans for a military base there. We can also begin to harvest some of that uranium reported there."
"Yes Presidente"
"The Czar supports Cayo fully in her right to Hoko Island. As for Hoko Island has been and now is rightfully Cayo's, the Czar has amended his ban on supporting socialist nations. Cayo has the right to defend her sovergn soil by any means possible."
Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Kingdom of Derscon
(((OCC: I LOVE the irony of this. Cayo and I were about to get in a nuclear war, and now I'm supporting him! this is truely precious. :P )))
Falastur
03-01-2004, 18:04
(((OCC: I LOVE the irony of this. Cayo and I were about to get in a nuclear war, and now I'm supporting him! this is truely precious. :P )))
How comes? Or do you just mean support as in support the actions of - the peace talks and all that...
Falastur
03-01-2004, 22:15
BUMP for a reply.....
Falastur
03-01-2004, 22:16
Edit: Double Post
Meramoso would like to reinforce her strong alliance with the great nation of Cayo, and will lend its support one hundred percent to Cayo's position.
(((OCC: I LOVE the irony of this. Cayo and I were about to get in a nuclear war, and now I'm supporting him! this is truely precious. :P )))
How comes? Or do you just mean support as in support the actions of - the peace talks and all that...
((((OCC: I mean support as in support Cayo fully in her right to keep Hoko island, where previously I would have launched a missile strike right the instant I heard about this and invaded Cayo. I believe Cayo has the full right to own Hoko Island, and I will support Cayo regardless of Cayo's defensive measures.))))
Corneliu
03-01-2004, 23:16
We the people of Corneliu support Cayo's claim in this matter and is offering any available support that we can muster. We also like to establish ties with Cayo and would like to send a Diplomatic Envoy to the Capitol city if we may.
Foreign Minister Franklin of Corneliu!
Falastur
04-01-2004, 00:31
OOC Looks like Cayo has been telegramming a few Allies to make himself look stronger. That, and I can't comprehend why people are suddenly supporting his claims, despite only yesterday saying that they hated him for his nuking techniques. Well, even if noone else any longer thinks he was wrong to invade, I still do. I'm not going to let Hoko lose it's independance.
IC
Falastur still does not recognise Cayo's claim to Hoko Island.
Falastur
04-01-2004, 00:33
OOC BTW, does anyone mind telling me why they recognise his claims? I'm not trying to be offensive, or anything, but I am pretty suspicious about everyone's change of heart. That, and I never quite got why the people who supported him in the first place did....
Ozymandias IV
04-01-2004, 00:57
The Republic of Ozymandias IV has recently been made aware of the situation between Cayo and Hoko Island.
The Republic does not recognize Cayo's claim. Further, its threats of 'Code Red' are nothing more than the bluster of a madman.
If Cayo would initiate such a genocidal course of action, the international community, and the Republic, would quickly remove the Cayo ruling body from power and establish a more stable regime.
If the people of Hoko Island are not given the right to determine their own futures, the Republic will begin economic sanctions against Cayo. Already, the Republic's Department of State is recalling all nonessential embassy staff. A travel advisory is in place and all Republican citizens and businesses are being urged to leave Cayo as soon as possible.
Umberto IV
SecInfo
"The Holy Empire of Mekanta has shifted its stance to a full refusal to recognize Cayo's claim to Hoko island."
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 01:10
As Corneliu as stated before, if any nation attacks Cayo, The Republic of Corneliu will support the nation of Cayo in any and all matters. They have a rightful claim to the Islands and as such, it is they're right to have them. If any nation contests this, it will be looked upon unkindly by our government.
Foreign Minister Franklin of Corneliu
Falastur
04-01-2004, 01:46
Falastur thanks Mekanta and Ozymandias IV for their values of democracy and peace over war, and that they recognise Cayo's claim, having no evidence to support it, to be false.
And to Corneliu.
As Corneliu as stated before, if any nation attacks Cayo, The Republic of Corneliu will support the nation of Cayo in any and all matters.
We have no intent to attack Cayo, unless he attacks first. I have tried to make that clear for the duration of this discussion. I am sorry that I didn't make it clearer still.
They have a rightful claim to the Islands and as such, it is they're right to have them.
I do not recognise the claims to Hoko Island by Cayo Island. From what I can gather, Cayo used to rule Hoko, but lost control of it, some time in the past. Having lost control, Cayo also lost their legitimate claim to Hoko Island. If a nation becomes independant through its own means, as did Hoko Island, then they publicly declare that they do not wish to be ruled over by another nation. Having made it to independance, they then have a right more important than the "opinions" of others to decide their fate. Cayo has as much rightful claim to that Island now as I do.
If any nation contests this, it will be looked upon unkindly by our government.
All I can reply to that is that if you continue to show your military as being more important to you than diplomacy, then you will be looked upon unkindly by our Government. I do not want to start a war. However, if you continue to make statements to this, then it can only be you who is pushing everyone towards conflict....
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 01:57
I never said I was going to attack anyone. I'm voicing my support for CAYO and I have a RIGHT to do that.
It is of our opinion that if you leave him alone, things will turn out as they should. If you continue to threaten, it will make the situation worse. There fore, it is the decision of this government to SUPPORT CAYO with the full support that we can.
Ozymandias IV
04-01-2004, 05:03
Given Cayo's refusal to listen to reason and its growing cadre of vocal, militaristic supporters, the Republic of Ozymandias IV is freezing all Cayo assets within the Republic.
A full economic ban is now in place - no business, trade or tourism shall take place between the Republic and Cayo until it retreats from its imperialist and illegal stance toward Hoko Island. Further, we demand that Cayo troops withdraw from Hoko Island and allow a neutral international team to monitor self-determination elections on the island.
We regret having to impose sanctions upon the Cayo people and hope they realize that any hardships they might endure as a result of the sanctions are solely due to the illegal actions of their government.
Umberto IV
SecInfo
"Presidente this situation is heating up"
"I know minister, but we will not withdraw from Hoko Island, we will not let it slip back into the hands of the capitalists!"
"What should we do on the island?"
"Strip all private companies and persons from any property they hold in Hoko. Everything on the island belongs to the masses."
"Yes presidente"
"Has the report on the population of Hoko arrived yet?"
"First estimate is 19 430 citizens of the island"
"Hmmmm, can the island be run with local population?"
"Yes sir, just"
"Good, remove all foreign workers from the island, especially those of our enemies."
"Very well"
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
Hoko Island has no right to independance. The island was sold to a group of billionare b@stards who set up a puppet government and sold all Hoko's industry and agriculture to private enterprise to line their own pockets!
The corrupt former dictator of Cayo was revoved by the masses, and now we want to bring Hoko City back to the Motherland! I have already stripped all private companies of their lands and assets in Hoko! The people can now re-claim their land, they can now recieve treatment in their hospitals dispite their wealth, every child on Hoko Island now has a right to education!
The people of Hoko are no longer slaves to capitalism! Any independance Hoko had was simply due to the former capitalistic Cayan government trying to line it's own pockets by selling off our land and it's people!
Independant polls show that the vast majority of Hoko Islanders are happy to be re-united with the Motherland. Our two islands are together once again!
I will not bow down to any aggressor, (many of whom by coincidence previously held assets in Hoko). I will allow foreign delegates to inspect the island and I will allow any Hoko Islanders who wish to leave the island, but I will not withdraw from Hoko!
Communique to the premier of Ozymandias IV.
Quite simply sir your actions against us are a joke. I hope you realise that the people of Cayo will not even notice your sanctions.
I'm sure we can manage without our almost non-existant trading with you and tourism accounts for very little on Cayo Island anyway. You have never had private assets in Cayo since my government gained power in the revolution.
I'm sure you are aware that there have been several Ozymandias companies on Hoko who have lost their land and assets on Hoko since the annexation. I wonder if this is the reason behind your actions.
As I have said I will not withdraw from Hoko, in light of your actions I will also not compensate any Ozymandias companies who have lost assets in Hoko.
Kremlin Palace Press Room
"On behalf of the Czar, the Kingdom of Derscon will not waiver support for Cayo," Yuri Ivanovich said in his opening statement. "Although the Czar condemns Cayo's damnations (OCC: for you mod's, that's not swearing) of capitalism, but that is only a minor issue. The Czar believes Cayo has a full right to ownership of Hoko Island, and will continue to support Cayo regardless of international reaction. Thank you."
"Sir!" was the cry from the masses of reporters.
"Ivan from INN, you have the floor."
"Thank you sir," Ivan said, slightly proud. "Why did the Czar suddenly change his position in this? First, Cayo was an enemy in the war against Hutu and its allies, and the Czar put his sanctions on all socialist nations. Why is Cayo being helped?"
"That is a good question," Yuri said, not being caught off guard since he expected that question. "Since Derscon and Cayo have been engeged in a series of diplomatic talks, the Czar sees Cayo as a sort of 'ally' in a way. Unfortunately, we only have time for one more question. Last question." Again, the waive of "Sir!" from the mob of reporters.
"Yl'lich, from Hound News Channel (OCC: like the fox play?)."
"Thank you sir. Since we are already at war, our military is streched --"
"Please excuse me, but let me interrupt you for a second," Yuri said. "We have only deployed a little less than half of the Derscon Military, not including the Imperial Defense Force. I'm sorry, continue."
"Thank you sir. Regardless, we have allies from the NNA opposing Cayo's right to Hoko Island. What happens if military conflict occurs?"
With that comment, a gasp was heard from the crowd as Yuri's face turned white as a ghost. He ajusted his collar before saying, "We have yet to decide a course of action should military conflict occur. That is all the time for questions we have. Good night." Yuri walked very fast off the stage and into the anteroom, where he fainted.
We urge the nation of Cayo to take a more diplomatic stance concerning the current issue. If Cayo were not so tolitarian and selfish in its claim, perhaps nations would not rally against your nation. Also, we suggest that you restate the terms in order to avoid war. We would be glad to send a delegation, but we ask that all nuclear weapons be removed from Hoko City before our arrival, if it is accepted.
It is hoped that this situation will only end in peace, and armed conflict will not occur.
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"Watch Derscon minister, watch them closely. Something tells me they have alterior motives. They will never abandon their allies to support a socialist nation."
"Hmmmm, perhaps we could try to send agents back into Derscon?"
"NO! We can't risk starting up another conflict with them. Just watch them closely"
Grays Hill
04-01-2004, 06:03
The Dictator of Grays Hill would like to know if it were a few platoons to Hoko City to help keep the peace.
Star Office
"Well, f*ck!" the Czar yelled. "This is gonna make the citizens really confident!"
"I don't like the looks of it either," said Yl'lich Narminov, the National Security Advisor. "We can't fight against our allies, but we cannot back down our support for Cayo. The most we could do is voice support for Cayo, but there is no way we could send troops without compromising our ties with the NNA."
"Yeah, I know. What if Cayo starts to get crushed by her enemies?" the Czar asked.
"Then you make a decision -- do you risk losing newly made but very strong relations with Cayo, or do you compromise our ties with the NNA, which some countries might not be too happy about the fact we left the alliacnce." The comment was more of a statement then a question.
"So you are saying, should Cayo face defeat unless we interject, we support Cayo and risk NNA ties?" the Czar asked.
"That is my personal opinion, but then again my brother is the ambassador there. It is your decision, but let's pray you don't have to make it."
"Right."
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
Dear Comrades,
It worries me that this situation appears to be heating up. I cannot however, withdraw from Hoko, to do so would be to betray my people and the ideals of our nation.
Therefore, to discourage conflict and try to maintain peace, I request that all nations who back me in my claim, send whatever troops and provisions they can spare to Hoko Island in order to aid in it's defence should an attack take place.
Presidente
We ask that no troop movements occur. It is a fact that most of the time troop movements only lead to war, not peace. We beg that Cayo please halt all attempts at increasing military presence. You are not being threatened, only urged. We again ask that you post the requirements needed for peace, and we will do our best at negotiations.
War should be avoided at all costs, and both parties are being highly irresponsible.
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Grays Hill
04-01-2004, 06:29
Grays Hill is sending 1,100 troops to the area, with 10 M1A2 Abrams, 5 M3 Bradleys, and 5 M-60 Patton tanks.
We ask that no troop movements occur. It is a fact that most of the time troop movements only lead to war, not peace. We beg that Cayo please halt all attempts at increasing military presence. You are not being threatened, only urged. We again ask that you post the requirements needed for peace, and we will do our best at negotiations.
War should be avoided at all costs, and both parties are being highly irresponsible.
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Actually, he IS being threatened.
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Comm. to Cayo
Unfortunately, as the Hutu conflict has heated up quite a bit, all of our troops are on high alert for deployment in to Hutu. We apologize, but we have no forces to spare at the time.
-SECRET IC-
The Mekantan team returns, bringing reports.
All of which is summed up with one word spoken to Central Command.
"Bull."
Tactical Command makes a sighing sound. "There's nothing we can do. The war with Neo-Mekanta is taking all of our resources."
-Message-
"The Holy Empire of Mekanta regrets we are likely unable to assist due to war with our renegades, however, we shall assist Pro-Hoko activities any way we can."
Please, I also urge a peaceful resolution for all parties, and as little military movement as possible.
Gregory Olp
Minister of Foreign Affairs
I am deeply saddened that despite repeated efforts to halt troop movements to Hoko Island, nations have continued to do so. I am in full understanding that our nation is rather small and insignificant, but we need to be taken seriously. Does our cause have no allies? Are we alone in the thought and acceptance that war is an atrocious horror that should be stopped at all costs? Perhaps we are, but we will not give up.
Again, we urge that all nations halt their troop movements and their agressions. A peaceful resolution is always available, and I personally offer my delegation to Hoko City to observe the treatment of citizens, provided all nuclear weapons be removed.
If our request is again ignored, we will be forced to take a more solid stance on the situation. I hope that all nations will open their eyes, and see the truth and impact of peace. :)
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John Vinetta
Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Oh yes, we request the same as Christemont. Trinis is preparing a delegate to be sent to Hoko City to observe the situation, as long as all nuclear weapons are removed
Gregory Olp
Minister of Foreign Affairs
All nuclear weapons have been removed from Hoko Island at this time.
Preperations have been made to recieve any troops sent.
Due to troops returning from our overseas bases surrendered to Derscon we can now send an extra 20 000 troops to Hoko Island to top up on the 40 000 we already have posted there.
Since we have just scraped our CREF (Cayan Revolutionary Expeditionary Force that was causing so much argument) we also have 10 000 troops with special Ops training that are free to be sent to Hoko.
We are currently training a force of Guerrilla fighters from Hoko who will prove usefull if Hoko should be invaded.
A large fleet of submarines is already on patrol off the Hoko coast.
There are still operational facilities for nuclear arms should any conflict have to resort to such tactics in a Last Stand situation.
Possible invasion landing points on Hoko are being altered to repel any invasion of the island.
Cayan Secret Service Agents are operation all over Hoko.
Land mines are on Hoko ready to be placed should war break out.
This is only the begining of our military build-up of the island. I expect that during the course of this week an additional 30 000 troops will be transported to Hoko from overseas posts. Forces stationed on Cayo may also be sent to Hoko shortly.
The Hoko people should have the say over who they want to govern them. If Cayo moves in without the people's blessing, the USW may step in militarily and diplomatically to prevent a hostile Cayo takeover. If the islands were sold off by a previous Cayan administration, then it was a perfectly legitimate transaction. The nation of Cayo has no right to go back on its word.
It must be maintained that no attack occur upon any Christenese delegate, or while any delegate is present in Hoko City. If any attack shall occur, it will be an outright declaration of war against our nation.
We will be sending a delegate immediately. Cayo, we request your location in the world. We are situated in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, about 500 miles southwest of La Paz, Mexico. We must know your location in order to figure out where to send our delegates.
Lastly, we graciously thank the nation of Cayo for being able to open up to an alternative end to a dire situation.
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I can promise sir that no civilians will be harmed, and whilst your delgates will notice a large military presence in Hoko City, they will also notice that the locals are getting on with their lives and appear non too concerned about the military presence.
The Island of the People's Republic of Cayo and Hoko Island is situated in the Antorrian Alliance
(I believe that is how it is spelled)
OOC: I mean, where in the RL world are you situated? :P
While my nation supports Cayo in their claim to hoko, we do not feel comfertable with the situation pertaining to the threats made to the population of the island. While not YET a member of the UN, the Armed Republic of Redhawks would like to take Cayo up on their offer to allow forgin inspectors onto the island. If allowed to do so, you can expect our team in a matter of days.
(OOC: Sorry about the poor spelling, I'm quite tired at the moment.)
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 14:41
We the People of Corneliu will also like to send a Delegation to Cayo AND to Hoko Island. Though we have no use for Socialism, we will back them up in their claim to Hoko Island. I hope that they accept this offer. However, if war should come anyway, we will back up Cayo with what resources we have.
Foreign Minister Franklin of Corneliu
COMMUNIQUE TO CAYO
I would like to send some 10,000 Marines to Hoko Island to support your forces their. I would also like to send an air tactical wing to Cayo as well as a visit by The Foreign Minister. If you would like to discuss this, feel free to telegram the Foreign Minister's office. We look foward to hearing from you.
Foreign Minister Franklin of Corneliu
Ozymandias IV
04-01-2004, 16:23
Our intel department is showing signs of a massive military build-up on Hoko Island.
We are curious why Cayo feels the need to place so many troops on an island that it claims invites its presence. As far as we can see, no foreign troops are advancing upon Hoko Island. Indeed, it appears that this massive military build-up is intended to legitimize Cayo's illegal claims to the territory.
We invite the international community to join with us in condemning this blatant act of aggression towards Hoko Island by the surprisingly large military forces of Cayo.
Merek III
SecState,
Republic of Ozymandias IV
I IMPLORE other nations to stop sending troops to Hoko, and that others withdraw their troops. We concur with Ozymandias IV. What constitutes a massive military buildup when everything, says Cayo, is fine? Or perhaps, the people of Hoko don't want Cayo there. I say, put it to the vote, as suggested by others SEVERAL times.
Gregory Olp
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
It is essential that Cayo places troops on Hoko simply to defend the island from any kind of foreign invasion. I again state that I will not withdraw forces from Hoko Island.
I also hereby formally announce that Hoko is a province of the People's Republic of Cayo. The people of Hoko will be allowed to elect their regional representative for the People's Parliament in Cayo City. All public services and the Hoko economy are now under Cayan administration. In short, Hoko is now part of Cayo once again.
Any attack of Hoko or Cayo will be treated as a decleration of war, and we shall respond accordingly. If the nations of the world respect our authority in Hoko then we shall welcome any foreign delegates who wish to visit the island.
Presidente
Oh. and why do I need to place troops on Hoko? It is not in fact because of the local population but because we are being threatened with military action. Hoko is our territory, and we have a right to defend that territory
Then Cayo, I suggest you remove foreign military forces. I see no reason for them to be present. Who knows, they may want to seize Hoko.
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 18:09
COMMUNIQUE TO CAYO
We Request permission to deploy our military forces on to Hoko Island to reinforce your position. I can gaurantee that we don't want the islands but will assist in defending Hoko for Cayo. If you like we can also deploy some naval and air assets to help your forces too but we won't fight your battles for you. We will support you militarily and diplomaticlly. We also would like to establish an Embassy in your capitol and we would welcome an Embassy in Liberty City.
Falastur
04-01-2004, 18:18
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
Hoko Island has no right to independance. The island was sold to a group of billionare b@stards who set up a puppet government and sold all Hoko's industry and agriculture to private enterprise to line their own pockets!
The corrupt former dictator of Cayo was revoved by the masses, and now we want to bring Hoko City back to the Motherland! I have already stripped all private companies of their lands and assets in Hoko! The people can now re-claim their land, they can now recieve treatment in their hospitals dispite their wealth, every child on Hoko Island now has a right to education!
The people of Hoko are no longer slaves to capitalism! Any independance Hoko had was simply due to the former capitalistic Cayan government trying to line it's own pockets by selling off our land and it's people!
Independant polls show that the vast majority of Hoko Islanders are happy to be re-united with the Motherland. Our two islands are together once again!
I will not bow down to any aggressor, (many of whom by coincidence previously held assets in Hoko). I will allow foreign delegates to inspect the island and I will allow any Hoko Islanders who wish to leave the island, but I will not withdraw from Hoko!
Well, that changes everything. The events you are describing show the true light of this: you are trying to steal the island. Quite simply, if someone sells a possession, giving that they owned it before, then it is not your right to take it back. It is in the possession of others now, (probably the Hoko citizens.) You, once again, have as much right to that island as I do. I'm sorry, but it is obvious - if something is sold legally, such as Hoko Island was - then it legally belongs to other people, and the rights to own it pass to whoever it was bought by. The ownership of an item in the past means nothing to ownership now. It is just hard luck. I'm sorry, but it was not me who sold it.
And in response to Cayo's announcement of re-integration of Hoko Island, I can say only this. If you do not give the Hoko Islanders an unbias vote on their future, independant of Cayo influence, then this will be regarded as a serious violation of rights. Your claim to Hoko has repeatedly been proven illegal. Give the citizens a chance to elect their own fate, or we will have to take more radical action (no, I don't mean military invasion, but I do mean doing something like declaring Hoko Island a Protectorate). You have 24 (RL) hours to respond.
Falastur
04-01-2004, 18:23
Oh. and why do I need to place troops on Hoko? It is not in fact because of the local population but because we are being threatened with military action. Hoko is our territory, and we have a right to defend that territory
You have no need to place troops on Hoko. It is perhaps paranoia or perhaps because you are in fact threatening the population? I don't know. I can see no reason why you should place troops there. Noone has declared war on Hoko Island, and noone has declared war on you (not that that would give you any right to move troops onto an island that isn't yours).
Hoko is not your territory. You said it yourself.
The island was sold to a group of billionare b@stards
You said that it was sold off. Which makes it someone else's territory. You consequently have no right to defend it.
Falastur
04-01-2004, 18:24
Edit: double post
Hoko was sold by the previous government. As this government was overthrown by the people of Cayo, that government's decision to sell Hoko was declared invalid.
I will hold a refurrendum to show the world that the majority of Hoko's citizens DO want union with Cayo.
Falastur. It is obvious that you want to get your hands on Hoko Island. You will not gain any control over our territory, ever.
I am placing troops on Hoko because I believe there is a threat that some nation will try to invade the island. Hoko is our territory, therefore we have a right to move our troops there as we see fit.
Our annexation of Hoko is not illegal. The former governments selling of Cayan territory WAS illegal, and we have corrected this.
Threat all you will. I will not remove my forces from Hoko Island, and I certainly will not sell out the island and it's people once more.
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 18:43
President Featherston, talking to the Foreign Minister about the situation when the Defense Minister walked in.
"Mr. President," the Defense Minister said, "what are we going to do about this developement"
"I want you to prepare a Marine Expeditionary Force as well as the 5th Naval Fleet and dispatch them to the end of our Territorial Waters. I also want you to prepare our newest 3rd Fighter wing for deployment. They should be qualified on the new jets by now."
"They are sir and are performing quite well with them too."
"Good. Because they're going to be needed. We might get dragged into this because we are supporting them so I want us ready. Prepare all defense that we have just in case. Minister Franklin, I need you to keep after Cayo. If we can do this peacefully, good. If not, Continue to let them know that we support them 100%. Understood."
"Yes sir" they chorused.
"Good. Dismissed."
When they left, the Speech writer for the President entered. The President asked him to right a speech regarding our support for Cayo in this matter. When he left to write it, the President sat back in his chair and contemplated his next move in support of Cayo.
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 18:43
OOC: Double Post. CONDEMN NS FORUMS :evil:
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 18:45
Falastur
04-01-2004, 19:38
Hoko was sold by the previous government. As this government was overthrown by the people of Cayo, that government's decision to sell Hoko was declared invalid.
I will hold a refurrendum to show the world that the majority of Hoko's citizens DO want union with Cayo.
Falastur. It is obvious that you want to get your hands on Hoko Island. You will not gain any control over our territory, ever.
I am placing troops on Hoko because I believe there is a threat that some nation will try to invade the island. Hoko is our territory, therefore we have a right to move our troops there as we see fit.
Our annexation of Hoko is not illegal. The former governments selling of Cayan territory WAS illegal, and we have corrected this.
Threat all you will. I will not remove my forces from Hoko Island, and I certainly will not sell out the island and it's people once more.
In the politest possible way, Cayo, it doesn't work like that. If you were to declare every annoucement invalid if the Government changed, then every country would be living in the stone age. Not only that, but if you follow that ideal, then you follow the reply "Well that makes your independance invalid then." If you want, then I will make a "legitimate" claim to your country, and put a nuke in it's capital to prove how nice I am to its citizens. It also makes invalid every single thing the previous Government did, which would destroy your country, I am sure.
I have absolutely no intention of taking Hoko Island. You can rest assured on the fact that if I wanted that Island, I would have let you nuke the place and then captured the remains - that or declared war on you at some point any rate. I would also have demanded that the election for freedom have a Falasturian candidate in it. And if I wanted that Island, why on Earth would I be so staunchly campaigning for its independance? And your responses following my remarks are only pointing to me the opposite conclusion: Cayo. It is obvious that you want to get your hands on Hoko Island (which is NOT yours). You should not gain any control over THEIR territory, ever.
I have no intent of taking over the Island whatsoever, I just also have no intent on letting rulers snap up land which isn't theirs.
However, I thank you for your willingness to put this to a vote. I just hope with all my heart you don't rig the elections.
I will put the question of the union to the people of Hoko. UN officials are already on their way to Hoko as I speak. I am totally confident that the majority of the people do not want to see their island split away from their Cayan cousins.
I am also confident that the results of this vote will justify my actions entirely. The mistakes of the previous government will soon be corrected and Hoko Island will soon be totally re-united with her Motherland.
Falastur
04-01-2004, 20:11
I will put the question of the union to the people of Hoko. UN officials are already on their way to Hoko as I speak. I am totally confident that the majority of the people do not want to see their island split away from their Cayan cousins.
I am also confident that the results of this vote will justify my actions entirely. The mistakes of the previous government will soon be corrected and Hoko Island will soon be totally re-united with her Motherland.
They don't want to see a split from Cayo? Haven't they already split from Cayo? Besides, when the Island was sold, I would have thought that any citizens wanting to stay in Cayo would go to the mainland, and any citizens wanting to leave Cayo would go to Hoko.....
And as for the second paragraph, not the support from the world over could justify putting a nuke in Hoko City to keep away other countries. You have no chance of ever justifying that. Let alone the whole invasion thing, that alone has been enough to spark off wars in the past....you were lucky to escape this one....
Falastur
04-01-2004, 20:13
And publicly announcing that you had executed their entire Government. That kind of reduced the legality of this too....
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 20:20
And publicly announcing that you had executed their entire Government. That kind of reduced the legality of this too....
((OOC: There have been incidents of people executing whole governments and it was justifiable. So saying that this reduces legality could be true and it may not be either. Depends on who writes the history.))
Transmission to Cayo
<---TRIPLE ENCRYPTION--->
El, Presidente, this is Admiral Herkjyavich, Commander in Cheif of the Derscon Imperial Naval Forces and Assets. The Derscon INFA has a. . . .strateigic asset in Hoko waters, having enough armaments capable of literally sinking three complete superfleets. As with the state of emergency we have all military assets on alert. We have placed this strateigic asset on red alert, and are prepared to sink all naval invasions.
<<<END TRANSMISSION>>>
Cayo,
You are evil and use terroristic tactics to do your bidding. We, at Nanakaland, do not negotiate with terrorists. You are messing with Falastur, a major nation in the NationStates Protectorate Service. In the NationStates Protectorate Service, we not only watch out for the Protectorates, but we also watch out for the Protectors. If you continue your evilness, we will have no choice but to get the entire alliance of the NSPS involved. We urge you to quit now.
Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder of the NationStates Protectorate Service (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110544)
Corneliu
04-01-2004, 21:36
<<---Encryptic Messege to Cayo--->
El Presidente! By order of the President, we have directed the 1st Sub Fleet to your waters. Their orders are to cause havoc among the enemy fleets if war should come over the Hoko Islands. Please accept them warmly.
Admiral Kinkad
Commander Corneliu Sub Forces.
<---End Messege--->
*Readies First and Second Assault Corps.*
*Readies First and Second Assault Corps.*
Automagfreek
05-01-2004, 00:28
We would like to remind everyone threatening Cayo, including our friend Nanakaland, that Cayo has our support. While their actions may be abit extreme, they still have our support regardless.
Now either the rest of you stand down your armies, or Automagfreek will send out it's forces. We will work privatly with the Cayo government on this matter.
http://www.angelfire.com/super2/freekisland/rayne2.jpg
Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D
Corneliu
05-01-2004, 00:56
***To Lt Col Johnson***
You are to assist the Cayoan forces on Hoko Island if it is attacked. The Cayoan Government of your Arrival. May God Go with you My friend!
Signed,
General Pain
ARC Marine Corp
ENCRYPTIC COMM FROM MINISTER OF DEFENSE TO CAYO
Your Excellency. We have dispatched 5 thousand Marines to assist you on Hoko Islands. I pray they won't be needed but if they are, be advised that we are with you all the way.
Defense Minister Williams of Corneliu
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
The results are in. 73% of citizens from Hoko Island have voted FOR re-establishment of the union with Cayo. 22% voted for independance and 5% did not vote.
This result has been confirmed by UN officials, as you can all see Hoko wants to re-join Cayo.
Hoko is now part of Cayo once more. Any attempted invasion or attack on our territory will result in all out war!
Corneliu
05-01-2004, 01:06
Presidente Babooska
Presidential Palace
Revolution Square
Cayo City
The results are in. 73% of citizens from Hoko Island have voted FOR re-establishment of the union with Cayo. 22% voted for independance and 5% did not vote.
This result has been confirmed by UN officials, as you can all see Hoko wants to re-join Cayo.
Hoko is now part of Cayo once more. Any attempted invasion or attack on our territory will result in all out war!
We the people of Corneliu applaud the vote and recognize it as part of Cayo. Any attack on Hoko or Cayo will be considered an attack on Corneliu. We will support Cayo with everything we have. May God Bless the People of Cayo, Hoko and may God Bless Corneliu.
Signed by the President Featherston of Corneliu
Can I take this oppertunity to applaud the support of Corneliu, Derscon, Automagfreek and any other nation currently supporting Cayo in our situation.
May I also take this oppertunity to condemn Falastur and Nanakaland in particular for their threats.
Now that Hoko is officially our territory we will defend it as such. I hope the world sees sense and backs off
Corneliu
05-01-2004, 01:26
Can I take this oppertunity to applaud the support of Corneliu, Derscon, Automagfreek and any other nation currently supporting Cayo in our situation.
May I also take this oppertunity to condemn Falastur and Nanakaland in particular for their threats.
Now that Hoko is officially our territory we will defend it as such. I hope the world sees sense and backs off
Your Excellency. In a matter of good faith and due to our support of your very noble cause, we are dispatching Ambassador Stone to your glorious capitol. Feel free to dispatch an Ambassader to our humble capitol. He will be well received by the President.
Foreign Minister Franklin of Corneliu
Thank you sir, I have already dispatched one of our finest ambassadors to you. May I also invite you to join our region, the Antorrian Alliance. It is a small region, but all nations within protect eachother and are growing.
Regards,
Presidente
Corneliu
05-01-2004, 01:49
Thank you sir, I have already dispatched one of our finest ambassadors to you. May I also invite you to join our region, the Antorrian Alliance. It is a small region, but all nations within protect eachother and are growing.
Regards,
Presidente
We look foward to receiving your ambassador. As for joining the Antorrian Alliance, We of Corneliu would rather stay where we are. This is by no means an insult to you Presidente nor to your region. But we are happy where we are. We thank you though for the Illustrious offer and if matters should dictate a change, we will consider your offer first. Thank you again for accepting our help.
President Featherston of Corneliu
Comm. to Cayo
As you are well aware, construction of the Derscon Embassy in Cayo is complete. To further relations, we invite Cayo to place an embassy in World City. Also, to even further relations with Cayo, the Derscon ambassador will be Gennady Isovich Narminov, who happens to be the Czar's National Security Advisor's brother. Henceforth, any attack on Cayo will be taken personally by top military leaders in Cayo, and military action will take place without prior diplomatic talks. Derscon will be prepared to defend Cayo as long as these relations continue, and the Czar as well as I expect them to prosper.
Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Comm. to Cayo
As you are well aware, construction of the Derscon Embassy in Cayo is complete. To further relations, we invite Cayo to place an embassy in World City. Also, to even further relations with Cayo, the Derscon ambassador will be Gennady Isovich Narminov, who happens to be the Czar's National Security Advisor's brother. Henceforth, any attack on Cayo will be taken personally by top military leaders in Cayo, and military action will take place without prior diplomatic talks. Derscon will be prepared to defend Cayo as long as these relations continue, and the Czar as well as I expect them to prosper.
Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Comm. to Cayo
As you are well aware, construction of the Derscon Embassy in Cayo is complete. To further relations, we invite Cayo to place an embassy in World City. Also, to even further relations with Cayo, the Derscon ambassador will be Gennady Isovich Narminov, who happens to be the Czar's National Security Advisor's brother. Henceforth, any attack on Cayo will be taken personally by top military leaders in Cayo, and military action will take place without prior diplomatic talks. Derscon will be prepared to defend Cayo as long as these relations continue, and the Czar as well as I expect them to prosper.
Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
I have determined that the recent vote by Hoko citizens is reason enough for Cayo to claim Hoko Island. It is now considered an issue that is resolved by the Christenese government, and we will not be involved any longer.
We do realize the fact that Cayo was rather imperialistic and threatening during the conflict, and we do not seek any further relations with that nation. Our goal was to achieve a neutral peace, which has been achieved without our help.
-John Vinetta-
http://www.getingo.com/images/bio-ngo.jpg
I have determined that the recent vote by Hoko citizens is reason enough for Cayo to claim Hoko Island. It is now considered an issue that is resolved by the Christenese government, and we will not be involved any longer.
We do realize the fact that Cayo was rather imperialistic and threatening during the conflict, and we do not seek any further relations with that nation. Our goal was to achieve a neutral peace, which has been achieved without our help.
-John Vinetta-
http://www.getingo.com/images/bio-ngo.jpg
Falastur
05-01-2004, 12:38
Falastur acknowledges this vote, and will step down over this crisis.
OOC I never threatened you. In fact, I only ever mentioned war as a result of your allies declaring war on me. Most of this conflict I have spent trying to point this out, yet your Allies seemed intent on making it look like I was trying to declare war. At least now this is over....