NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Ok, yes we are selling a nuke. And yes, it is a big one. But, first, we must lay down some rules. Okay, sorry little nations but I must:

IC:

Rules

No nations under 100 Million Peoples may buy any.
Orders may be denied and background checks made.
Prices may vary.
No copying, or you will incur the wrath of Solarius.
No selling on...EVER.
No using or me....hell, you would know what was coming anyway.

ScramJet Purified Hydrogen Bomb

http://www.onr.navy.mil/media/images/gallery/thumbs/scramjet/freejet_top.jpg

The Scramjet

The ScramJet is a very recent affair. It wasnt invented long ago. We have made our own variations, and taken ideas from many places. But now, we come up with our own version. Here, I explain:

The vehicle itself is an Air Launched, free moving weapon. The screamjet engine takes only a little oxygen to combust, create combustion and light its fuel. It then jets off, and is very, very fast. Mach 8 in a dive, last time I saw. The shell is aerodynamic and thick, amde of Titanium Alloys in an Epoxy-Resin Honeycomb, which is very strong heat resistant.

Its direction is controlled by where the jet blast goes. It is harnessed and vectored via several very large padels, and is an 8 panneled 3D vectoring affair. It's onboard computer takes in data on destination, and climbs to the outer atmosphere. It is at roughly Mach 3 when doing this. When 100km away from the target, it beins it's dive, and burns all its fuel to generate thrust to Mach 8. Then, it free falls, to it's designated target. At Mach 7. Ouch.

The Nuke

The Nuke is a very complex and new design (not even inented in RL). It has just been created, adn the reason we have few nukes in our arsenal is that we have spent the last 20 years on this. Lets explain it, shall we?

It uses a complex system. All in all, there is 10 Megatons involved. It is in a protected contained enviroment in the warhead. Surrounding it is a net of Lasers adn Magnetics, which when activated create very very heavy nuclear reactions with the Uranium. It then makes an nuclear explosion, twice as violent as a normal 5 Kiloton Nuclear Bomb. All on impact, at Mach 7.

Submarine and Ship Launched Version

The submarine and ship versions are the size of a small ICBM. This package contains the outer shell, rocket motor and actual Scramjet, which is the same as the Air Launched version. It works in a complex system, which is somethign like this.

The packaging is launched into the air, in the same way as any ICBM. It accelerates 300 metres into the air, where the nosecone is discarded, This opens the Scramjet. The Scramjet begins combustion, and launches. The packaging aroudn it fall away, and the Scramjet climbs to the normal height of the Air Launched version, where it turns up the power. It is slightly slower on impact, but is still viscious. It is a nuke, you know.

It is a patented system, and if copied in any way will encur my wrath. I think :?

Cost: $10,000,000

Sub/Surface Version $11,000,000

bump...no one want to buy nukes :(

I would, but you just kicked me out buddy!

Thanks for the offer anywho, workin' on gettin the USSNR some new techs.....

1)you dont patent a nuke for two reasons one other people can see the disignes if you patent it two you can only sue them if they copy your digisne and sell the bombs
2) that isnt how a nuclar bomb works a mall tnd explosion sends atoms flying in to the uranium and that sets off a chain reaction

1) You do here, otherwise someone will copy it.
2) How do you think CERN and all those other nuclear labs seperate particles? I'll tell you, with LASERS!

And why not just use a conventional 10 kiloton warhead? And as for the ScramJet design, it isn't unique to you (as far as I know, ive seen others[i think] so..) anyway, have fun..

Yeah, this is an interesting design all right. I don't know if it'll work to create a nuclear explosion in the real world (feel free to give me some links and prove me wrong) but hey, who cares? It's not the real world, it doesn't need to be real. It's well thought out. One small flaw, five kilotons of uranium actually means five thousand tons of the stuff (I know what you mean, there's enough uranium to cause a five kiloton explosion). It might be being pedantic, but still, I'd just like to point that out.

I odn't want to buy 100 million... 5 is enough for me

115 for 1 billion$ it's ok!!
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Sacro Romano Impero Gross Domestic Product
Population: 166,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $4,150,000,000,000
National Budget: $1,276,672,800,000
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i've more than 100 milllion inhabitants
i'm member of UN
i'm regional delegate of one of the more peacefull lands
i have the money
i am your friend!!

i'm member of UN

Didn't the UN ban such weapons?

And, er, copyrights are stupid.

:P

Well, I have had experience of people copying my stuff and selling it before, so...

It is a perfectly feasable invention, and is straight from the words of ermm...fact, I think.

Anyway, have fun. Orders Confirmed, please come again :)

[OOC]
Isn't the price a bit low?

[IC]
[code:1:1f87ba94c2]Encrypted Telegram

From: General Glyfforian, Pwnica Air/Space Forces
To: Kazakhstania

We wish to purchase 50 of these weapons. 500 million USD has been wired.

[/code:1:1f87ba94c2]

Can we purchase 5 of these innovative weapons?

ooc: so theres no way it could be a subarime launched missile?

OOC: Dont worry IH, we are secretly working on a new idea.

It works liek this:

The whole thing is fitted to roughly the size of an Cruise Missile. It is fitted inside a rocket, with the rocket casing around it. The rocket ignites, and lifts off out the sub/ship. It rockets into the air, and when it reache Mach 2, the rocket is discarded.

Then, the Scramjet ignites, and the whole thing does what the air launched version does.

OOC: Dont worry IH, we are secretly working on a new idea.

It works liek this:

The whole thing is fitted to roughly the size of an Cruise Missile. It is fitted inside a rocket, with the rocket casing around it. The rocket ignites, and lifts off out the sub/ship. It rockets into the air, and when it reache Mach 2, the rocket is discarded.

Then, the Scramjet ignites, and the whole thing does what the air launched version does.

OOC: Ok tell me if you need any assistance. Im also hoping to restart the war game because the war is going nowhere. and is the sub launched version on sale yet?

Can we purchase 5 of these innovative weapons?

Bump for me and Pwnica's benefit.

Interesting, we have been using SCRAMjet technology for months, not only in weapons but for jets as well. Can you tell me what type of fuel you are using?

Ok, I dont knwo much about fuel.

Lets jsut say, its a combination of harnessed gasses that combust with oxygen, and a small almost gaseus powder that burns very, very quickly and produces huge amount soh heat. Gas/Solid fuel really.

[OOC]
Thanks, Jeruselem.

Oh, sorry.

Orders Confirmed.

I dont know about the price, really :?

And Ih, I will sell it soon. As soon as I get this fixed.

* 50 million wired to Kazakhstania *

Thanks. Enjoy your Scramjets.

Submarine and Surface Ship Launched Variant soons.

Thanks. Enjoy your Scramjets.

Submarine and Surface Ship Launched Variant soons.

Thanks. Looking forward to seeing your new tech.

Thanks. Enjoy your Scramjets.

Submarine and Surface Ship Launched Variant soons.

Ok dokey, i stand poised to buy!

You should be very careful about selling nuclear weapons. You might create an arms race.

Thanks. Haven't really seen you around before. It's nice to know I am standing out, not just some other n00b making tiny storefronts.

My nation's population is well over two billion. I'd like to buy ten for $100,000,000. Money will be sent when order is confirmed.

5 Kilotons of Uranium?
Are you serious, Imperial or Metric?
What's the kilotonage of the weapon?
The amount of Uranium doesn't equal the Kilotonage of the Weapon. If you really used 5 kilotons of Uranium, I wouldn't want to use that thing.
5 kilotons equals 5000*1000 (5 thousand thousand tons) which equals 5000000 kilos. Did you really use that much Uranium in one nuke or is it the kilotonage of the weapon? The smallest tactical nuke in the current US arsenal to my knowledge is 10 Megatons. The kilo or Megatonnage represents the amount of TNT needed to achieve the same explosion and its effects.
Are you sure You put 5 million tons of Uranium in one nuke?
Do you realise the force a nuke of that size would generate?

I'll take 3 scramjet nukes please.money will be wired on confirmation.

Order Confired.

You will find these to your liking.

thanks for the nukes! :D :D i'll wire the money now.

Don't use them too soon. They are powerful.

Submarine and Surface Ship Launched Variant soons.
Sacro Romano Impero officially asks the authorization to develop himself a submarine variant.

5 Kilotons of Uranium?
Are you serious, Imperial or Metric?
What's the kilotonage of the weapon?
The amount of Uranium doesn't equal the Kilotonage of the Weapon. If you really used 5 kilotons of Uranium, I wouldn't want to use that thing.
5 kilotons equals 5000*1000 (5 thousand thousand tons) which equals 5000000 tons. Did you really use that much Uranium in one nuke or is it the kilotonage of the weapon? The smallest tactical nuke in the current US arsenal to my knowledge is 10 Megatons. The kilo or Megatonnage represents the amount of TNT needed to achieve the same explosion and its effects.
Are you sure You put 5 million tons of Uranium in one nuke?
Do you realise the force a nuke of that size would generate?

Where would you find a plane large enough or a Rocket powerful enough to deliver the Nuclear Payload?

5 Kilotons of Uranium?
Are you serious, Imperial or Metric?
What's the kilotonage of the weapon?
The amount of Uranium doesn't equal the Kilotonage of the Weapon. If you really used 5 kilotons of Uranium, I wouldn't want to use that thing.
5 kilotons equals 5000*1000 (5 thousand thousand tons) which equals 5000000 tons. Did you really use that much Uranium in one nuke or is it the kilotonage of the weapon? The smallest tactical nuke in the current US arsenal to my knowledge is 10 Megatons. The kilo or Megatonnage represents the amount of TNT needed to achieve the same explosion and its effects.
Are you sure You put 5 million tons of Uranium in one nuke?
Do you realise the force a nuke of that size would generate?

Where would you find a plane large enough or a Rocket powerful enough to deliver the Nuclear Payload?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/pe0059ed424a0268e56e78c62e0fc9add/fa16234a.jpg.orig.jpg

I was also thinking about that, do you realise how much uranium weighs?

Ive changed it, already.

The Sub version will have to be purchased from us, when it is released.

the authorization needed was to develop a sytem which change our air missile into a sub one, not to produce sub missiles by ourself!

Now you're using 10 milion *1000kg of uranium, That's an even bigger nuke that before. Do you want to blow up a solar system or something. You are now using 10000000000 kilos of uranium in 1 nuke. Change it to just 10 megatons not 10 megatons of uranium. For a device that uses 10 megatons of uranium you should raise the price a great deal.

We the Bordorian Armed Forces, would like 125 of these impressive weapons, for 5,714,285.7ߥ ($10,000,000 US) each.

A grand total of 714285712.5ߥ ($1250000000 US).

We are a country of over 100 million.

Money wired. :mrgreen:

P.S. Their is an extra 28,571,428ߥ ($50,000,000 US) if you can modify one of them to fire from our orbital weapons platforms.

~Bordorian Secratary General

Exchange rate: $1.75 US = 1ߥ

Why does the nation have to be more than 100 million people? although i have 6 million persons, my country has been around since 1344! We don't even have a nuke. We need ways to defend ourselves.

~Queen Elizabeth

...Besides, Uranium is just one of the elements used in creating chain-reactive materials. Buyers would still have to refine it into weapons grade materials. (And I'm not talking)

No. It is a fully functional bomb we are selling.

The Lasers adn Magnetics create most of the reaction.

Why does the nation have to be more than 100 million people? although i have 6 million persons, my country has been around since 1344! We don't even have a nuke. We need ways to defend ourselves.

~Queen Elizabeth

Because if every nation could get nukes right off the bat, chaos would ensue.
Plus, n00bs (not newbs, n00bs, there's a difference) tend to flaunt their nukes and use them stupidly if they have them while they're under 1 month old.

This is absolutely preposterous. My nation has a population of 40,000,000 and yet you restrict me to openly purchase nuclear weapons. First off, I already have a nuclear and WMD program, and should be able to purchase weapons! Second, this is a treacherous trade. Good day!

If its trechearous, why do you make 'em?

Sub and Ship versions done. IH, here ya go.

The Liberate Government Wishes to purchase 50 of these fine weapons. $500,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation.

Ooooh. Close, 7 Million over.

Your order has been confirmed, the nukes will be shipped in a high security An-225 guarded by 6 aircraft.

Oh, and wanted to say - unless it's copyrighted on Camdeans page I don't consider it "patented" or "copyrighted"

Ah, nukes, to finish the construction of the glorious Chinese Army. This may seem like a large order, but I am a large nation and will require these to deter others.

1000
300 Sub Version

$13.3 billion wired on confirmation.

Order Confirmed, These will be immenetly delivered to the nation of Chinese Army as soon as possible.

Do you fancy an alliance?

We wish to purchase 100 submarine and ship launched nuclear missiles please.


OOC: Are you able to continue with wargame if it starts back up?

Sure.

Can I repalce some of my units with upgraded versions? Also, the troops are tired so they need rotation.

Order Confirmed, 2 free.

What engine does your missile use to get to Mach 7, which is the
speed needed for a Scram Jet engine to start working according to
Machanics Ill. Mag.?

I know very little about these.

I heard it was Mach 4. But hell. In my Scramjet, we use a premotor in he Scramjet to get it to Mach 4 from as little as Mach 1, and then when it reaches 4 it will start.

With the Ground Version, we use an ICBM motor :)

I'm sorry, It wasn't Mech.Ill. Mag where I picked up the Mach 7 info
from. It was Channel 9 on cable TV, Tech TV, they were showing a
special on flight. It was celebrating 100 yrs of flight. There scramjet
had to be at Mach 7 before it would operate. My country has just perfected our first scramjet aircraft built at SelveriMoon our aerial city & built by SelveriKore Inc. SelveriKore’s SJ-58 Phoenix, a High Flying Ultra Fast Scram Jet Powered Aircraft which fly’s at speeds exceeding Mach Seven. Two versions of this aircraft have been designed one for commercial airliner uses, the second for military applications. (Could be for sale in the near future).

Order Confirmed, These will be immenetly delivered to the nation of Chinese Army as soon as possible.

Do you fancy an alliance?

Sure, I'm a puppet of The Zoogie People anyway, acquired when a friend left. :P

Sure.

Can I repalce some of my units with upgraded versions? Also, the troops are tired so they need rotation.

Order Confirmed, 2 free.

OOC: sorry to do this again, but the f***er M-pire has decided to start the war, i am going to need all of my forces for that so the games will have to wait a bit longer. You may also get some of your weapons tested out in combat if he continues to god mod :)

IC: The Government thanks you. 4 secure cargo ships escorted by USIH naval vessels are heading to your ports to pick up the shipments.

OOC: Its cool.

May you link me, I am in ned of RP.

My old nation is kinda crystalised :?

From: Rekonion War Defense

I am in need of wepons for my nation. I will take as many as you have.

______________________________________

I have the people and I have the money. I am becoming a UN member and I have treated my narbors nice

You I believe can have a max of 10 :)

OOC: Its cool.

May you link me, I am in ned of RP.

My old nation is kinda crystalised :?
OOC: Ok sure ive just posted a thread related but i will get a link to the war, (it isnt the best Rpin by either sides yet)

I request 5 of your nukes, as you can see i meet your standards.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

5, please. Money wired upon confirm.

Orders Confirmed.

Enjoy your quality nukes.

I want to order other 50'000 of them, i'll pay for them 400'000'000'000 $, i hope they are enought.
-goodbye-

"Rotovia would like to purchase 10 of each version and look into purchasing additional weapons later. Payment will me routed by cash money transfer via our Swiss Bank Accounts. Any questions raised by a background check will be gladly answered"

Senator Ian Hatchet
Acting Minster for Defence

Billybob Island would like just one, for if we need to use it it do enough damage.

I'll take 10.

$100 million is wired. Here's proof I can afford it.

Tasty Foods Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,595,000,000
Civil Rights: Few
Economy: Very Strong
GDP per Capita: $15,000
GDP: $23,925,000,000,000
National Budget: $4,732,556,400,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 1.98%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 10%
Military Budget: $473,255,640,000

Enough for:
15,217 F-15Es, or...
23,662 Su-34s, or...
25,173 F-16s, or...
43,023 MiG 29s, or...
110,059 M1A2 Abrams, or...
157,751 T-90s, or...
807,603,481 M-16s, or...
1,577,518,800 AK47s

do you have any Space-launched missles?

And why not just use a conventional 10 kiloton warhead? And as for the ScramJet design, it isn't unique to you (as far as I know, ive seen others[i think] so..) anyway, have fun..

Only 10 kilotons? Excuse the language but thats one weak ass nuclear warhead. The US uses 100 kt nuclear warheads on its minuteman missiles as does russia and other nuclear capable nations

Orders Confirmed.

Space Launched as soon as we can test it.

It is in equivelant a 20 kiloton warhead, due to the mechanism of explosion.

It is liek the Tomahawk, on steroids.

Thank you.

We will be sure to use them responsibly.

*money wired*

[cash money transfer activated]

We will buy 1500 surface-launched for $US16,500,000,000. Money wired.

OOC: We, too, can tell of our background.
UN Member.
810 million pop.
Mapalgetia Gross Domestic Product
Population: 815,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Very Strong
GDP per Capita: $15,000
GDP: $12,225,000,000,000
National Budget: $3,875,325,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 6.02%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 19%
Military Budget: $736,311,750,000

Wanna nuke