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We at Ninjao, have developed a strong shield, called LWECS (LandWeb Electromagnetic Containment System). It was recently installed to surround Ninjao, and we are requesting that all nations send their strongest missile to test the shield's capabilities.

If some nation happens to bring the system down for 10 seconds, they will be rewarded with their own LWECS system.

NOTE: Send your missiles to the sector above the city of Joshu, avoiding SkyCity and the small nation of Toothy. Also, this test is only for testing 1 missile, do not send multiple attacks to weaken the shield.

The hive has need of sheilds, we request the ability to test our own sheild breaking technology on your device.
We are the hive we are perfection.

Tremalkier has responded to this challenge with the unleashing of one of the 4 satellite born Achilles class TND (Thermo-Nuclear Device). A goliath of a nuclear arm, the Achilles contains a full 13 separated TNDs. Encased in what is basically a giant armored shell, the peapod shaped Achilles uses small guiding rockets to guide its descent. Due to its massive nature it cannot be carried via plane, nor can it lift off the ground. Instead only a satellite can be used to both carry, and drop the massive bomb.

Upon reaching about 1 mile above the target the Achilles splits itself open, dividing into 13 armored segments, each loaded with a quadruple binded Thermo-Nuclear device. Also released is the smaller but more powerful Sphinx bomb, which is attached to the rear of the Achilles. The Sphinx utilizes the EMP field triggered by the TNDs exploses to trigger its own reaction, which releases a concentrated EMP pulse directly below itself. Rather than the large expanding area affected by a normal EMP, the Sphinx's field is concentrated through still present field directly in the wake of the exploding TNDs. This concentration fully destroys even shielded electronics, and is powerful enough to stop even the weakest electric flow, even a dying mans heart.

Due to the nature of this weapon, the four Achilles satellites are fully disguised, and are considered a final stand class weapon. This will be the first Earth bound test of the weapon.

Have a nice day.

sounds lke thatd be strong enough. Im pretty sure thatd go through it from the description.

That would be the plan Svalbard...and of course the little after-effect caused by the Sphinx should help explain to this young un, a very simple fact: Never, ever, challenge nations to shoot at you, because somebody is gonna fuck you up if you do.

have you already tested your shield vs High-Yield Quantum Bombs and sound bombs???

Due to its massive nature it cannot be carried via plane, nor can it lift off the ground. Instead only a satellite can be used to both carry, and drop the massive bomb.


If it's too heavy to lift off the ground, how did it get into space?

I would also be interested in helping destroy...i mean test your shield. I would be abliged to luanch a nuclear strike to bring down your shield. THe proposed arm is the strongest in our arsonal, and wieghs in at around 421 megatons yeild. The luanch device of this warhead is almost equivilent to arounf 8.5 million pounds of thrust, and is luanched from very special silos inthe mountain regions of ardor.

the aerodynamics of a orbital launch vehical and a intercontinetal missle are vastly differant. orbital vehicals travel a slightly shorter distance, tradtionally anyway's. they also contian about 4x more power and thrust without the liekly addition of booster rockets. this allows them to propel a much larger object, hence a orbital weapon system can be much larger then its ground based counterpart. in responce to the calibration tests Deztovka refuses to allow other the knowladge of our weapons capabilities.

Tremalkier has responded to this challenge with the unleashing of one of the 4 satellite born Achilles class TND (Thermo-Nuclear Device). A goliath of a nuclear arm, the Achilles contains a full 13 separated TNDs. Encased in what is basically a giant armored shell, the peapod shaped Achilles uses small guiding rockets to guide its descent. Due to its massive nature it cannot be carried via plane, nor can it lift off the ground. Instead only a satellite can be used to both carry, and drop the massive bomb.

Upon reaching about 1 mile above the target the Achilles splits itself open, dividing into 13 armored segments, each loaded with a quadruple binded Thermo-Nuclear device. Also released is the smaller but more powerful Sphinx bomb, which is attached to the rear of the Achilles. The Sphinx utilizes the EMP field triggered by the TNDs exploses to trigger its own reaction, which releases a concentrated EMP pulse directly below itself. Rather than the large expanding area affected by a normal EMP, the Sphinx's field is concentrated through still present field directly in the wake of the exploding TNDs. This concentration fully destroys even shielded electronics, and is powerful enough to stop even the weakest electric flow, even a dying mans heart.

Due to the nature of this weapon, the four Achilles satellites are fully disguised, and are considered a final stand class weapon. This will be the first Earth bound test of the weapon.

Have a nice day.


It sounds nice. However, your TNDs EMP have little effect on the shield, as the shield itself is an electromagnetic field, and any outside EMP waves will simply be forced to bend around it.

As the head of the P4lladian Institution for Apathy and Irrelevancy, the organization responsible for the design, construction and upkeep of the LWECS shield, I would like to take this time to clarify any issues regarding the capability of the device.

Taken from the Ninjaon science and technology website (http://www.noyuo.com/ninjao/tech.htm), this is the maximum energy output of the system:

...Also of note is the fusion reactor and capacitor array used to power the shield. The power is generated by a largely experimental fusion reactor, catalyzed by geothermal energy. This reactor constantly provides base power to the shield grid, and can easily deflect small aircraft and vaporize people. An array of large capacitors are also used to instantly provide up to 2200PJ to the field. These capacitors require 10 hours to recharge from a full discharge.

A note for future attempts: please include the yeild of your weapon, in petajoules if possible. I'd rather not have to convert all your yeilds for comparison for you.

THe proposed arm is the strongest in our arsonal, and wieghs in at around 421 megatons yeild.

The LWECS has a maximum momentary output of 2200PJ. Since 421megatons is only 1804PJ, the shield is still operational, and the excess energy put into the shield has been stored in the capacitors, fully recharging them. We're ready for the next contestant.

(Heh. If I could keep the Phalanx system from the war RP this nation was created for, I'd test that against it. Unfortunately...)

Rebeland recognizes this challenge and is going to use an unparalleled-potentially apocalyptic device-the anti-matter SAM warhead attached to an ICBM. Note, if this destroys the world, it was completely justified.
*Hits Red launch button*

The Kingdom of Mestionian finds your proposal idiotic. Ask nations to fire missiles at your nation, with the sole purpose of bringing down your shields just long enough for another missile to strike, thus killing thousands of your people. King Dirk thinks you are a moron.

*Launches a Nakiada Class AEMP Missile*
The afore mentioned missile uses anti-energy to disable energy fields. It should disable your field for a short period of time without damaging the land beneath.

Your shield is quite an astonishing creation. I hope to aquire one because that missile costs $350,000,000 each. I mean, I only have 4 until the next fiscal year.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

The Kingdom of Mestionian finds your proposal idiotic. Ask nations to fire missiles at your nation, with the sole purpose of bringing down your shields just long enough for another missile to strike, thus killing thousands of your people. King Dirk thinks you are a moron.

Now, no-one ever said we were responsible in our leadership.

Rebeland recognizes this challenge and is going to use an unparalleled-potentially apocalyptic device-the anti-matter SAM warhead attached to an ICBM. Note, if this destroys the world, it was completely justified.
*Hits Red launch button*

OK, you blew up the whole planet. I guess you...win...or something. I'd deliver the shield to you...if I had factories to build it in. Or you had a nation to defend. I don't think you'll need the shield anyway, not too many people around to challenge you!

EDIT: Looks like an instruction manual happened to survive the apocolypse. It's in Klingon, though, so you're probably want to hit up babelfish.

Rebeland recognizes this challenge and is going to use an unparalleled-potentially apocalyptic device-the anti-matter SAM warhead attached to an ICBM. Note, if this destroys the world, it was completely justified.
*Hits Red launch button*

OK, you blew up the whole planet. I guess you...win...or something. I'd deliver the shield to you...if I had factories to build it in. Or you had a nation to defend. I don't think you'll need the shield anyway, not too many people around to challenge you!

He has done more than jsut blow up the planet, he has infact created a black hole and possibly started the collapse of the known universe.

Yeah, I just lost the instruction manual in it. :\

Sorry about that...

Due to your launching of more than 1 missile, we have used our ground-based plasma dispersal cannons to vaporize all but one missile.


OOC: Yeah, sure noob. :roll:

Since it seems liek your using an electrical based shield system a nuke would effectivly take dow your entire system, why, is becuase the EMP that a nuke causes would probubly end up frying your control systems and possibly even taking down the fusions control system, possibly causing a blackout to your shield's power grid.

I await judgement of my attack. I seek to share my technology with you if my Nakiada Class AEMP Missile was successful. So, you get the missile, I get the shield...depending on the outcome.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

it is true a nuclear blast generates enough EMP it in itself should bring down your shields. The only way it wouldnt is if your godmoding. plus Tremalkier only luanched 1 missile it divides itself up. Maybe you should learn to read before you do stuff.

it is true a nuclear blast generates enough EMP it in itself should bring down your shields. The only way it wouldnt is if your godmoding. plus Tremalkier only luanched 1 missile it divides itself up. Maybe you should learn to read before you do stuff.

Yeah, you are right, thought it said he launched 4 of the TND's. And if you read, you would know that the shield itself is a electromagnetic field, which effectively makes the EMP useless (Electro Magnetic Pulse).


The Kingdom of Mestionian finds your proposal idiotic. Ask nations to fire missiles at your nation, with the sole purpose of bringing down your shields just long enough for another missile to strike, thus killing thousands of your people. King Dirk thinks you are a moron.

Which is why we said to fire ONE missile. If the missile overpowers the shield, we have a backup capacitor to give the shield minimum power in order to diverge the blast into the field shaping towers (AFST's). Firing a missile at our shield would do no harm to the people, but it would force us to rebuild the AFST's.

hehehe do you even know what electromagnetic means ??

hehehe do you even know what electromagnetic means ??

Nope, can't say I do *rollseyes*

Your kidding me. You dont know what electromagnetism is yet you've built a sheild with the name in it.

Your kidding me. You dont know what electromagnetism is yet you've built a sheild with the name in it.

The " *rollseyes* " means I am laughing at the question, and answering with sarcasm.

OOC: Guess we need voice messages implemented in forums.

It depends on what frequency the electromagnetic pulse exists in. The energy shield may merely absorb an EMP depending on the phase of the energy. I want to note that a nuclear detonation yields a continuous frequency EMP that falls between 3 Hz and 30 kHz, the lower frequencies. Having a larger bomb would create the same EMP pulse on a larger scale. Additionally, there are shielding methods to protect the generators from an EMP if such technology was employed.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

I still await the results of my attack.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

Subject matter in which means is provided for protecting an active solid-state device by providing a barrier to prevent electrical or magnetic radiation or fields or charged particles from reaching the device, or to limit the amount of such radiation or particles reaching the device. (1) Note. This subject matter is to be distinguished from that found in the cross-reference art collection entitled “radiation hardening”, which encompasses subject matter which does not attempt to shield the device from electric or magnetic or electromagnetic radiation or charged particles, but is used to prevent or limit the damage caused to a device by such radiation or particles which reach the device.

heres proof that your Em field cannot prevent a nuclear blast. it can only weaken it not stop it completely!

Actually, it depends on which field is stronger. Besides, your reference refers to solid barriers, not fields themselves.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

but for the Shield to stop a nuclear warhead from going through its got to be solid.

Not necessarily. Besides, the field itself would more than likely prevent an actually nuclear explosion by frying the circuits of any device shot at it. The strong magnetic field present should also prevent the actual device from piercing the field. I am not sure how their field is designed. I am merely providing supporting evidence for the shield providing defense from a nuclear weapon.

Note: My device was denoted pre-impact so it should have had an affect regardless.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

Yes but this field would be affecting things within it also if its that strong. Its like getting your computer or watch close the a magnet. the things within this shield should also be fryed if its generating that much of an em field.

Okay, let me clarify that Toothy was hardly involved in the development of this shield, but I will try and explain it from how I understand it. A P4lladian representative can correct me if I am wrong.

A nuclear blast creates a force (for this situation, we will measure it in PetaJoules). The shield can provide an instant charge of 2200PJ. This would mean that the shield can create a force to repel at that force. Now if a nuke were to detonate on it, and it created a force of, say 1500PJ. Since that is a lower force than what the shield can generate, the blast would be "pushed" away, leaving the inside of the shield intact.

Now, the shield normally operates at 220PJ, and a computer controls when to give a charge to the shield to increase the power. The charge is given off by a very large array of capacitors (capacitors store energy to be released quickly). If a missile were to hit and cause a force of 2200PJ, it would drain all of the capacitor's energy, and it would take 10 hours to recharge them completely.

So, in short, the shield "pushes" the blast away from it with a stronger force (in PetaJoules - a joule is a measure of force).

Yes but this field would be affecting things within it also if its that strong. Its like getting your computer or watch close the a magnet. the things within this shield should also be fryed if its generating that much of an em field.

No, this is where the AFST's come in. They "shape" the field into a dome, and prevents the energy from moving away from the specified area.

OK whateva sounds like a godmode mod to me especially since such a young nation came in possesion of it.

OK whateva sounds like a godmode mod to me especially since such a young nation came in possesion of it.

OOC: See - http://www.noyuo.com/ninjao/

Cmon that small of a nation invented sumthin like this. that nation wouldnt have enough money to fund let alone keep this type of prgram running. the physics of EM shields proove that a shield of this size would be almost impossible to keep up without draining an entire nation of energy. thats why nuclear weapons remain a threat in this world & always will.

It isn't a nation, but rather an entire region that utilizes it.

I am still waiting for the results of my attack. You must remember that my attack is in Anti-PJ and thus would cancel out the shield. Considering the detonation was pre-impact, the capacitors would not increase the shield from the normal 220PJ making it even more vulnerable. Since I am not taking out the generators themselves, rather focusing on the shield, the capacitors would kick in and reform the shield. However, due to the affect of my attack, this would take several seconds.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

Well, seeing as how a single nation could not accomplish this, we have created an allied region of approximately 1.5 billion people. I would not consider this very small. Nuclear weapons are a threat to the shield with enough force. Also, the shield is weak to matter/anti-matter detonations and huge high speed objects.

Yes but theres only one Nation in that whole region that is of big size. the rest are below 10 mill. Their Economies wouldnt be able to support itunless they dont put money in nething but this shield,leaving them helpless against invasion.

I guess they are hoping the shield would prevent such invasion.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

It isn't a nation, but rather an entire region that utilizes it.

I am still waiting for the results of my attack. You must remember that my attack is in Anti-PJ and thus would cancel out the shield. Considering the detonation was pre-impact, the capacitors would not increase the shield from the normal 220PJ making it even more vulnerable. Since I am not taking out the generators themselves, rather focusing on the shield, the capacitors would kick in and reform the shield. However, due to the affect of my attack, this would take several seconds.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

I would answer this, however I may be wrong . :D The computer system, I assume, would still be able to kick in the power, but it may be too late as it is a new system, and it's calculations could be off for pre-impact missiles. Now, you still need to disable to system for 10 seconds. :D

hahhaha and you say a nuclear weapon from space isnt high speed. Lets see gravity increases objects speed the farther into the atmosphere it comes so basically the first nuke dropped on you was enough. Cause it came from space.

I guess they are hoping the shield would prevent such invasion.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

This is correct. Ninjao are essentially a peaceful nation that hoped to be able to prevent an invasion, rather than creating a huge army. Our army consists of some Samurai with carbon nanotubing technology and a katana. We really don't have much in the matter of transport (yet), but we do have two effective offensive weapons, 1 of which is not functional. It is a satellite "space cannon", but Ninjao's combined efforts have not been able to get the satellite into orbit. The other offense is a small army of SPARTAN's. another variation of the basic samurai, the SPARTANs are the elite military class of the state of Toothy. Picked from the early age of six, these soldiers are genetically altered to be stronger and faster than the average human. The armor used by the SPARTANs, unlike that used by Ninjoan regulars contains actuators and mechanized components that increase the strength of the wearer. Due to their immense strength, they carry very large plasma-coated swords. Trained for offensive use, they are unfortunately stuck working defensive duties around the city of Clitorcity. They are generally found blowing up military assets due to lack of war.

Problem with your shield...well...heres the thing...you know the Sphinx...well...it'd completely tear that to shreads. You see, by the very nature of the weapon, your shield would amplify its affects. Because basically it utilizes a pre-existing electormagnetic field to force a sort of concentrated electromagnetic storm. Basically using specially designed sensors the Sphinx, should, detect the residual trace, or in this case the shield itself, left behind by a nuke. Utilizing good old fashioned...crap whats the name of that theory*...anyhow it follows the residual effect directly below itself, the point of explosion to release a more concentrated EMP. Your shield, if the sensors worked correctly, should work as an amplifier to the whole process by providing a massive resource of an already existing EM field...how you can actually create a static shield of electromagnetism is beyond me but anyhow...thereby A) overloading the shield by creating a massive feedback into your generators B) Collapsing said shield after said feedback due to loss of static state, and thereby creating a EMP of greater power due to the fact that such a shield would need a truly massive EM field. You'd basically have created a bigger pulse than the Sphinx could have on its own.

*Theory that states that an EM wave or anything in that whole spectrum will follow the residual traces of a former presence...

(OOC: Clarification, the Achilles are attached to a normal looking weather satellite, except the fact that the satellite is just a shell for the missile. It is lifted off only thanks to the huge thrust of 4 oxygen fueled rocket boosters, which can manage to push it into space)

hahhaha and you say a nuclear weapon from space isnt high speed. Lets see gravity increases objects speed the farther into the atmosphere it comes so basically the first nuke dropped on you was enough. Cause it came from space.

There is something called "Terminal Velocity". And the "high speed" wouldnt mean something below mach 14.

Problem with your shield...well...heres the thing...you know the Sphinx...well...it'd completely tear that to shreads. You see, by the very nature of the weapon, your shield would amplify its affects. Because basically it utilizes a pre-existing electormagnetic field to force a sort of concentrated electromagnetic storm. Basically using specially designed sensors the Sphinx, should, detect the residual trace, or in this case the shield itself, left behind by a nuke. Utilizing good old fashioned...crap whats the name of that theory*...anyhow it follows the residual effect directly below itself, the point of explosion to release a more concentrated EMP. Your shield, if the sensors worked correctly, should work as an amplifier to the whole process by providing a massive resource of an already existing EM field...how you can actually create a static shield of electromagnetism is beyond me but anyhow...thereby A) overloading the shield by creating a massive feedback into your generators B) Collapsing said shield after said feedback due to loss of static state, and thereby creating a EMP of greater power due to the fact that such a shield would need a truly massive EM field. You'd basically have created a bigger pulse than the Sphinx could have on its own.

*Theory that states that an EM wave or anything in that whole spectrum will follow the residual traces of a former presence...

(OOC: Clarification, the Achilles are attached to a normal looking weather satellite, except the fact that the satellite is just a shell for the missile. It is lifted off only thanks to the huge thrust of 4 oxygen fueled rocket boosters, which can manage to push it into space)

Ahahahhaha thats what ive been sayign the whole time. You looked up the whole thing to i bet cause thats what i did. we have shown that you should research your topic before you make it and post it. :P

Technically, I did disable the shield, albeit for a short time. I think we could trade technologies. I mean, my region, the Pacific Islands, is a peaceful region as well and could use the shield. I would be willing to give you 6 Nakiada Class AEMP Missiles in exchange.

Terminal velocity is indeed a limit on the speed of any object, however, an object re-entering the atmosphere of a planet at the right angle would be accelerated beyond the object's terminal velocity. This would probably disintegrate the object though.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

Technically, I did disable the shield, albeit for a short time. I think we could trade technologies. I mean, my region, the Pacific Islands, is a peaceful region as well and could use the shield. I would be willing to give you 6 Nakiada Class AEMP Missiles in exchange.

Terminal velocity is indeed a limit on the speed of any object, however, an object re-entering the atmosphere of a planet at the right angle would be accelerated beyond the objects terminal velocity. This would probably disintegrate the object though.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

We would most likely be interested in a trade of technologies. Even if it managed to survive the acceleration past terminal velocity, as soon as it came in, it would have to slow down, as the resistance of the air would slow it down.

we have shown that you should research your topic before you make it and post it.

That doesn't make much sense, as the whole point of the topic was to see if the shield could withstand foreign attacks. I am not going to try and rebuke the Sphinx, as I still do not know officially how the shield works, and would most likely make a fool out of myself in trying to explain it completely wrong. I will let the P4lladia representative discuss that.

Please telegram me if you wish to open trade discussions. Again, congratulations on your shield. Is is a great feat for defensive fortification.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative11.jpg

I think that sums up your argument

Double post

OOC: LOL! I love Office Space.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

Zhuh @ the picture. You are saying that my argument is that "you guys are idiots"? You can delete posts btw, there is a small button next to the edit button.

hahahaha Nice your right trem hes gotta be cause your nuclear weapon would have taken the shield down in a heartbeat and done more. maybe the noob region should be taught a lesson for their stupidity. :lol:

No, from what trem said, he is saying that I am thinking you guys are idiots.
"I tihnk that sums up your (meaning me) argument"

Anyways, I was just thinking about how your Sphinx works. (that sounds naughty ^^). How would the Sphinx be able to "amplify" the EMP, as the EMP wouldn't even be there, considering it moves. By the time the Sphinx activates, wouldn't the EMP emitted by your TND's and the shield be gone, if there were any left. (The way I see it, the shield's capacitors give enough energy as it needs to neutralize the explosion, meaning the forces would cancel eachother out; may be wrong on this).

EDIT: I would also like you to check out this pdf file about how EMP's are actually not what most people think they are (EMP's from Nukes, that is) http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0307127

No, from what trem said, he is saying that I am thinking you guys are idiots.
"I tihnk that sums up your (meaning me) argument"

Anyways, I was just thinking about how your Sphinx works. (that sounds naughty ^^). How would the Sphinx be able to "amplify" the EMP, as the EMP wouldn't even be there, considering it moves. By the time the Sphinx activates, wouldn't the EMP emitted by your TND's and the shield be gone, if there were any left. (The way I see it, the shield's capacitors give enough energy as it needs to neutralize the explosion, meaning the forces would cancel eachother out; may be wrong on this).
I was hoping you'd catch that. The nations who seem to be supporting me aren't exactly the ones I'd hope would, but I guess we are all afflicted with less than perfect co-belligerents. The thing you have to understand is A) The EMP pulse happens just as the Sphinx is activating, if the timing works. Secondly, as was pointed out to you earlier, an EMP is a really a electromagnetic wave that basically just spread from its starting point. In doing so it triggers non-shielded electronics, and melts their circuits through its very nature as an electrical wave. The Sphinx will go "critical" just after the wave begins to move, leaving a kind of "pocket" of electromagnetic residue. Thereby, when the Sphinx goes off its wave is amplified directly in that path, furthermore thanks to its sensors it should be at the same frequency as the strongest field nearby, your shield. When it impacts the shield, the result is a kind of merger of the two, resulting in a major feedback into your generators, strong enough to knock out virtually any system, even enough to power a continent. After that, your shield collapses, and because by its very nature it needs to be an extremely powerful shield, the resulting collapse releases a massive EMP. So although the Sphinx isn't being used in its normal tactical sense, it still accomplishes its mission and breaks down your shield, and creates a devasting EMP.

I said I wasn't going to try and explain this, but oh well.

The way I see it, there wouldn't be much of an electromagnetic field to amplify right after the shield generates a huge amount of energy. Also, if I am not mistaken, the ASFT's may control all electromagnetic waves within its area, but I am not sure. The sphinx would have to be powerful enough to overcome that force.

PS: Read that article, its pretty interesting.

Umm..that article is a completely different situation. It refers to a "high altitude burst"...that in military terms probably means a stratosphere explosion. And to the best of my knowledge all military tests proved that the EMP even at that high altitude would still affect ground electronics, just like a solar flare does. Furthermore, it compares an EMP to lightning. That is not the right natural phenomenon to compare it to. A solar flare is a classic example. You pour those kind of particles into the atmosphere, even ground level electronics can be fried. Sorry, but whoever wrote that must have read some bad research, or not looked hard enough.

If you read more than the first paragraph, and little summary, you will see that it states that a nuclear device's EMP would hardly do as much damage as thought.

And I am almost 100% positive that you would not recieve ANY information on EMP's from the government. That isn't the kind of information they release to the public domain.

Much EMP research is indeed classified. However, a high altitude nuclear blast above Kansas would destroy most unprotected (and operating) electronic devices in the continental US. This scenario was considered one of the largest threats posed by the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

BTW, I telegrammed you, Toothy.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

They are both right. Solar Flares would be the correct to compare with a a nuclear blast. Solar Flares can disrupt many frequecies including the Em shield. When the Sun was flaring up about a month ago it fried Japanese Satelites and disrupted Communications. hell it even dissabled my internet and cell phone for a few days. and i live a good distance from the canadian border. I live in Nebraska and it was doing that to us. This shiled of yours was taken down by the first nuke that was launched at you. Theres plenty of facts behind our point and all ive seen from yours are basically off the subject.

Svalvard - Uh, heh, no. The system was specifically designed to be a defence against nuclear weapons, and is impervious to the EMP generated. You are assuming that the field generator is unprotected, which is not true. The shield, being an electromagnetic field, would force the wave around it's curvature, unless, of course, the wave in question was stronger than the field. Methinks its time for you to brush up on your basic magnetism theory.

Several other people seem to be making the mistake that the point of this contest is to punch through the shield and blow up a city or cause massive damage. While some of you have succeeded, Tremalkier included, none of you have actually succeeded in disabling the entire shield. The closest contestant was Desudoragon, who we have entered a trade agreement and he will be getting the shield. Since his approach was somewhat different, that is, he dampened a large chunk of the shield, instead of trying to overload it, he gets bonus points too, or something.

Thank you for participating in our first wargame contest, I hope you will participate the next time we hold such an event.

Thank you for holding it.

Libertine Empire of Desudoragon

I await judgement of my attack. I seek to share my technology with you if my Nakiada Class AEMP Missile was successful. So, you get the missile, I get the shield...depending on the outcome.

Commonwealth of Ewig Stolz
Province of the Libertine Empire of Desudoragon


How can you still trade technology if you blew up the entire world?