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The republic of sethesh, fearing Uber/ Godmod Bombs, Virus's that just wont die and Other Unexplained devices. Is setting up the International Scientific Advisory Trust or ISAT if you will.

Long has NS been troubled by the unrealistic weapon, the impossible device and the nuked up noob. Enough i say!

I am officially setting up a group of NS players, sure of there scientiffic knowledge to advise and offer assistance to nations unsure of there abillity to produce a realistic super weapon, or a new innovation in science, Theorectical and real advise will be given. Because if it can happen in Theory then it can happen really, but lots of these weapons dont even theortically work.

We will not aid with future tech unless asked by a player to assist

There will be 4 Divisions of ISAT, which are explained bellow

Biology- The way life works, and the process's which make it happen. The main Job of this division will be to advise nations attempting biological research and Medical triumph.

Chemistry- The Way chemicals and Elements Work, what happens when you add them together, whether a material is possible. This Division will mainly aid nations researching into new Protective materials, or Chemical agents.

Physics- This seems to be the one most people need advising on, how the universe Interacts with itself, and what happens when it does, I feel the main job of this divison will be to prevent uber bombs from being released on an un-suspecting player.

Material- Advising people on how to make things, this goes hand in hand with nuclear Physics as most people dont explain how there heavy weapons work. This is especiailly open to the weapons wiz, who knows how to put a tank together, or a new explosive shell.

All Groups will offcourse direct such people to websites and sources of information for further Scientific aid.

How to Become an Advisor

Post below with your expertise, and you will be added to the correct category. Expect TM's from members asking questions, and please participate in Scietiffic discussion.

Advisors

Biology:Sethesh, Samtonia

Chemistry:Sethesh

Physics:Zvarinograd

Material: Samtonia, The Scarecrows

New Advisors Always welcome.

I can train people i my inhosparible land scape I also have TONS of uranium too

Wouldn't it be better if this... Consortium could also direct such inquiring minds to sites?

Material and Biology my good fellow.

Samtonia your added, and Scarecrows a note about directing to websites has been added :)

I'm in. Applied Material Knowledge alluding to future materials, technology, and knowledge.
You're going to need more than one for some of these.

This idea has its heart in the right place, but due to future tech being mostly theory anyways, a lot of people won't accept the advice given to them. In fact, when I was advising someone about mechs, I was warned by a mod.

Oh well, then weel limit ourselves to Modern/ Near Future tech, past tech goes without saying i think.

But as i said. Well aid with theory aswell. So if a future tech player comes to us well help :)

Mind if i join in on this ?

membership is open to those with scietiffic knowledge...... whats your field of expertise?

Mechanized warriors? The best weapons platforms are ones which do not conform to humanoid standards. Very inefficient.

Yes humans are poor by defense standards, are limbs hang out and we have little natural defense. We waist alot of energy staying upright aswell, which is the reason we have little defense. Imagine a missile hitting a mechs arm would come straight off lol

OOC: Not another mech debate. I advise you go back to the ISAT topic before things get ugly.

heh, anyway benderland, you obviously seem to know your material side you gonna sign up?

Offhand comment, Bender. Our mindset still makes us think we are superior. Our Hubris will destroy us if we ever encounter a hostile alien race.

ANYWAY.

heh, anyway benderland, you obviously seem to know your material side you gonna sign up?

No, as I said before I was warned by a mod while trying to give someone advice. I'm not going to push my luck again.

And if I was going to join, I'd be a physics advisor.

Depends whether or not they view themselves just as superior.

It can be assumed One needs means to produce materials before they can be a threat to us, heck dolphins would be like us except they dont have aposable thumbs. For that you need Hand-Eye Co-ordination, or whatever they use and thus need a larger brain. So its safe to assume theyd view themself as superior, that or theyd be docile.

Offhand comment, Bender. Our mindset still makes us think we are superior. Our Hubris will destroy us if we ever encounter a hostile alien race.

ANYWAY.

It's a good thing we (the nation of Benderland) are not human.

Humanoid?
Then you suffer the same as we do.
Advancements produce a sense of freedom and arrogance.

OOC:
I would like to take advantage of this and ask, would a multiple neutron warhead (in case you don't know, a neutron bomb is a low-yield nuclear bomb that releases massive amounts of gamma radiation) missle, with a mechanism to release the warheads at different points in the atmosphere be able to cause worldwide electromagnetic pulse (EMP) using the Compton's effect? (The Compton's effect is how a nuclear bomb causes EMP, it's essentially the reaction between gaseous molecules in the atmosphere and the radiation a nuclear bomb releases.)

I'd like your opinion on that.

Humanoid?
Then you suffer the same as we do.
Advancements produce a sense of freedom and arrogance.

Yeah, well, if you only had a brain...

We dont have a Physics Expert yet, but i have a limited knowledge of physics so i might aswell answer.

As far as i know neutron bombs are still theoretical, but one would assume, that when this energy is required, the EMP would remove the electro magnetic particles back to the Neutron explosion causing all electrical reaction to stop for that period. So if you distributed the weapon evenly, with enough to cover the regions in between, you would infact cause a world wide EMP.

But i dont know much about how a Neutron bomb would work. And it would offcourse need field testing so that you were sure of the EMP radius.

OOC:
I would like to take advantage of this and ask, would a multiple neutron warhead (in case you don't know, a neutron bomb is a low-yield nuclear bomb that releases massive amounts of gamma radiation) missle, with a mechanism to release the warheads at different points in the atmosphere be able to cause worldwide electromagnetic pulse (EMP) using the Compton's effect? (The Compton's effect is how a nuclear bomb causes EMP, it's essentially the reaction between gaseous molecules in the atmosphere and the radiation a nuclear bomb releases.)

I'd like your opinion on that.

That would take an ungodly amount of neutron warheads in order to create a worldwide effect.

Neutron Bombs only explode in the Gamma spectrum. I think. However, I'm an Engineer, where's the Fission Devision when you need them?

OOC:
From what I know, a nuclear bomb detonated in the atmosphere can cause an EMP effect to engulf nearly the entire North American region, much less a neutron bomb.

Yes, the particles in the atmosphere bounce like tennis balls when a nuclear weapon was blown up in the atmosphere the small yield of hiroshima. So a 25Megatonne would cover the US. But as i said, neutron bombs are still theoretical. E-Bombs however are bombs specially made for EMP and would do a much better job.

Amen. WHy the hell do all good theories turn to weapons? Took us fifteen years after Hirsohima for a Nuclear Power Station to be built.

Because most of the time there funded by the military.

Can't argue with that logic. Or is monitored by the military. Intelligence Convergence Group, anyone?

Too many Conspiracies for me.

OOC:
I've done research. E-bombs or flux compression generator bombs can only affect a small area, it's basically designed for precision. The idea is that a switch connects the capacitors to the stator, sending an electrical current through the wires. This generates an intense magnetic field. A fuze mechanism ignites the explosive material. The explosion travels as a wave through the middle of the armature cylinder. As the explosion makes its way through the cylinder, the cylinder comes in contact with the stator winding. This creates a short circuit, cutting the stator off from its power supply. The moving short circuit compresses the magnetic field, generating an intense electromagnetic burst. However, this does not even come close to a nuclear-EMP attack, for that you would need an insanely massive E-Bomb, which is impractical. Therefore I conclude that my idea is better for what it was designed for, worldwide coverage.

By the way, can I have a part in Physics? I've demonstrated my knowledge and application of nuclear weaponry.

EDIT: Yes, I'm still an amateur, but I can tell what's possible in a nuclear bomb. Most of those that need guidance in this part would be the people that develop 'uber world-destroying' bombs.

OOC:
I've done research. E-bombs or flux compression generator bombs can only affect a small area, it's basically designed for precision. The idea is that a switch connects the capacitors to the stator, sending an electrical current through the wires. This generates an intense magnetic field. A fuze mechanism ignites the explosive material. The explosion travels as a wave through the middle of the armature cylinder. As the explosion makes its way through the cylinder, the cylinder comes in contact with the stator winding. This creates a short circuit, cutting the stator off from its power supply. The moving short circuit compresses the magnetic field, generating an intense electromagnetic burst. However, this does not even come close to a nuclear-EMP attack, for that you would need an insanely massive E-Bomb, which is impractical. Therefore I conclude that my idea is better for what it was designed for, worldwide coverage.

By the way, can I have a part in Physics? I've demonstrated my knowledge and application of electronic warfare bombs, and am an amateur in nuclear weaponry.

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