NationStates Jolt Archive


Preperation for War

Lapse
30-12-2003, 10:47
Lapse reveals today, that they are ready to goto war with the corrupt and evil nation of Jedi Revolutionists. Jedi Revolutionists has recently been convicted of many felonies, including espionage. The natiuon convicted these felonies under the puppet of ImperialStates. The full list of convictions are:
- Espionage
- giving falsified information
- Traitor
- The intention of releasing nformation to the outside world of my region and nation
- Denying the origins once revealed
- Under a False name, caused my nation to goto war, to protect the nation been attacked.
- Causing Loss of lapse property and lifes as a result of the above

I have given the nation of Jedi Revolutionists 20 hours to give an explanation of these actions, If i do not recieve a legitimate explanation, i will be forced to attack.

For all of the above accusations I have evidence.


If anyone in the external community has any objections to this, they have 20 hours to speak them.
Petsburg
30-12-2003, 10:48
Please do not go to war, choose diplomacy first, i urge you to reconsider your actions
Lapse
30-12-2003, 10:52
Please do not go to war, choose diplomacy first, i urge you to reconsider your actions

28 hours ago i tged Jedi revolutiuonists asking for an explanation withing 48 hours to his actions. I as of yet have recieved no explanation
30-12-2003, 10:58
Hoo- Rah
The Gaurdian Angels acknowleges your declaration of war and gives the tumbs up, as if his little Merc nation means anything to Lapse
Lapse
30-12-2003, 11:10
Hoo- Rah
The Gaurdian Angels acknowleges your declaration of war and gives the tumbs up, as if his little Merc nation means anything to Lapse


well it does... only another 100,000 nations to go :P
SR
30-12-2003, 11:18
Commander Soldant of SR has been informed of these plans beforehand, thanks to the new peace treaty between Lapse and SR. We would like to remind all nations that Lapse rarely goes to war without a reason, and he has a reason.

SR thinks that if Lapse wishes to go to war, he can go to war, however SR will not help with the attack on Jedi Revolutionists. We will, however, defend Lapse if he is attacked.

SR is also announcing plans to attack Death of Life, another nation of The Wehrmacht. The reason is simply to stop DOL attempting to gain power through corruption and deceit, espceically with the problems in The Wehrmacht. Soldant made an announcment:

"If Lapse wants to go to war, I won't say anything, and i will protect him if he gets into trouble. That's the limit though, unless something serious happens. In regards to Death of Life, SR will be attacking DOL with the aid of other nations in SR Control, namely Berkir. DOL has long annoyed SR and recent discoveries show he is plotting against nations left, right and centre, creating illusions of peace while plotting that nations destruction! SR is sick of it, and so, we march!"

OOC: Sorry to hyjack the thread lapse, I don't indend to, but this seems like a good opportunity to formally announce peace and the plan against DOL.
Ebolania
30-12-2003, 14:35
Ebolania hereby declares itself neutral in this conflict, but will join the conflict if incited or attacked. In all other situations, we declare ourselves neutral and have no wish to join in these hostilities.

Translation from Diplomaticese: If one of you guys attacks me, you're goin' DOWN. Otherwise, have fun beating each other up.
Lapse
30-12-2003, 14:48
Ebolania hereby declares itself neutral in this conflict, but will join the conflict if incited or attacked. In all other situations, we declare ourselves neutral and have no wish to join in these hostilities.

Translation from Diplomaticese: If one of you guys attacks me, you're goin' DOWN. Otherwise, have fun beating each other up.

The hypocritical states of Lapse confirms that they will not harm any Ebolanianese intentionally during the attack on Jedi Revolutionists. We wish you well in futur endevours

Translation from Diplomaticese: be prepared for some... acidental losses. have a nice day.[jk]
SR
31-12-2003, 07:00
Ebolania hereby declares itself neutral in this conflict, but will join the conflict if incited or attacked. In all other situations, we declare ourselves neutral and have no wish to join in these hostilities.

Translation from Diplomaticese: If one of you guys attacks me, you're goin' DOWN. Otherwise, have fun beating each other up.

Question - I haven't seen you in The Wehrmacht, so what is your involvement in this conflict?
31-12-2003, 07:05
If you could explain your "convictions" a bit better, I think Tremalkier would support you, but their vagueness and lack of evidence have left us no choice but to say that such a war appears unsubstantiated, and for now at least must cause us to put a "hostile" tag on your nation. We do not plan to use any force though.
Jedi Revolutionists
31-12-2003, 08:09
Lapse reveals today, that they are ready to goto war with the corrupt and evil nation of Jedi Revolutionists. Jedi Revolutionists has recently been convicted of many felonies, including espionage. The natiuon convicted these felonies under the puppet of ImperialStates. The full list of convictions are:
- Espionage
- giving falsified information
- Traitor
- The intention of releasing nformation to the outside world of my region and nation
- Denying the origins once revealed
- Under a False name, caused my nation to goto war, to protect the nation been attacked.
- Causing Loss of lapse property and lifes as a result of the above

I have given the nation of Jedi Revolutionists 20 hours to give an explanation of these actions, If i do not recieve a legitimate explanation, i will be forced to attack.


Perhaps I could give my side of the story

-Espionage- True. However espionage is not a cause for war and Lapse was not shown any hostilities.

-Falsified Information- False. Falsified information of what? I never released information to anyone outside of Jedi Revolutionists. (IC and OOC) Is there any real proof of this?

-Traitor- False. Traitor to what? We were never allied nor were we ever in an alliance at the time of the allegations taking place.

-The intention of releasing nformation to the outside world of my region and nation - False. He is assuming something that is not true based upon hearsay rather than hard evidence. He has not shown me nor the rest of the international community proof of this allegation and I swear to my word it is not true.

-Denying Origins Once Revealed- True. But is that a crime or a bases for going to war?

- Under a False name, caused my nation to goto war, to protect the nation been attacked.- True and False. A puppet nation nation was being used. Lapses' use of military force was based entire only his own choice and was not forced nor caused to war, but was rather offering the use of military force. (See Threads between Win Over All and Imperialstates; there are 2)

- Causing Loss of lapse property and lifes as a result of the above- True and False. Loss of life occurred but was not my fault. Properties such as vehicles, aircraft, weapons etc were not my fault nor could they have been prevented by me. Properties losses such as land and buildings never occured. Out of all the other allegations, how has loss of life occurred?

Lapse does not have a legitament reason to go to war and therefore I do not have to give a legitiment answer for any reason because he feels he has to prove himself by war. Are acts espionage, in which case there were no threats towards Lapse of any kind nor lever occured, a basis for going to war? Traitor to what and how exactly? Who doesn't deny an act of espionage? Has this really wronged Lapse in anyway? No to all I say.
Lapse
31-12-2003, 10:16
-Espionage- True. However espionage is not a cause for war and Lapse was not shown any hostilities.
I feel taht it is, you have compromised my security, to prevent any futrther leakage i must neutralise you


-Falsified Information- False. Falsified information of what? I never released information to anyone outside of Jedi Revolutionists. (IC and OOC) Is there any real proof of this?

You claimed that you were not jedis puppet



-Traitor- False. Traitor to what? We were never allied nor were we ever in an alliance at the time of the allegations taking place.

You betrayed my trust, you supplied secrets of Bristle to the outside world


-The intention of releasing nformation to the outside world of my region and nation - False. He is assuming something that is not true based upon hearsay rather than hard evidence. He has not shown me nor the rest of the international community proof of this allegation and I swear to my word it is not true.

I have a nation who knew of your intentions, i promised i would not release its name though



-Denying Origins Once Revealed- True. But is that a crime or a bases for going to war?


The Empire of Imperialstates
Received: 2 days ago My name isn't Sean. I don't know where you got that from. As far as Jedi goes, I don't work for him anymore. Bryants Socialism pays more and gives better protection. As for your space tech, that is weak. No offense. But even the Jedi recognizes the importance of a space fleet and army; also the importance of George Lucas's imagination. But since you are not on my side, I have no choice but to close negotiations with you. I am sorry.

that is my evidence


- Under a False name, caused my nation to goto war, to protect the nation been attacked.- True and False. A puppet nation nation was being used. Lapses' use of military force was based entire only his own choice and was not forced nor caused to war, but was rather offering the use of military force. (See Threads between Win Over All and Imperialstates; there are 2)

I want to your assistance because 'imperialstates' was my ally. I respect and stand up for my allies. Especially when they would get decimated


- Causing Loss of lapse property and lifes as a result of the above- True and False. Loss of life occurred but was not my fault. Properties such as vehicles, aircraft, weapons etc were not my fault nor could they have been prevented by me. Properties losses such as land and buildings never occured. Out of all the other allegations, how has loss of life occurred?

Many Lapsian soldiers were killed or incapitated. Not too mention ammo etc


Lapse does not have a legitament reason to go to war and therefore I do not have to give a legitiment answer for any reason because he feels he has to prove himself by war. Are acts espionage, in which case there were no threats towards Lapse of any kind nor lever occured, a basis for going to war? Traitor to what and how exactly? Who doesn't deny an act of espionage? Has this really wronged Lapse in anyway? No to all I say.
I have presented my evidence. Out of pity for the Citizens of JR i have decided to give an extra 24 hours
Jedi Revolutionists
31-12-2003, 10:36
Secure Bristle leakage by not telling SR your information

No I have not supplied secrets of Bristle. Do you have any proof? If so then who did I supply them to? What did I supply?

What were my intentions and how will the world know if this 'nation' is a credible source?

I'm sorry how does a telegram prove anything besides denying a fact in which I have admitted to denying?

I cannot effect free choice. The choice was yours and you took it. Not my fault.

How is it my fault when I did not directly cause it nor could I directly prevent this from happening. You know the costs of war. It was your choice to go to war.
Zvarinograd
31-12-2003, 10:39
The United Communist States of Zvarinograd feels that this situation must be verified before any act of conflict occurs. It seems that the reasons for this supposed 'war' is still debated upon. We urge other nations to stand down until war is truly supported by an outstanding reason and diplomacy has failed.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Communist States of Zvarinograd
Lapse
31-12-2003, 16:25
I have made my reasons simple and clear

I have tried diplomacy

I did not jump straight into a war.

I asked for an explanation of why he was spying on my region. If i recieve none, then i will go to war. It is that simple.
Jedi Revolutionists
31-12-2003, 23:43
That is simply a gay reason for war. However, I have made a better point for not going to war. All have seen it here and all will continue to see it. It really shows the type of man and leader you are. Not much of either.
The Golden Simatar
31-12-2003, 23:47
The Golden Simatar has decided to stay neutral during this conflict.
Lapse
01-01-2004, 08:54
OKay. Im fed up with JRs OOC comments on how stupid i am too goto war for this reason.. All i asked for was a legitimate explaination. Since i have recieved none, i feel that i must goto war on Jedi Revolutionists.

My reasons for going to war are justified, and im sure 2/3rds of the ns world would go to war if they had my reasons.

You have 1 and a half hours remaining Jedi

And just for the record, i do not want this war to happen. I want an explaination
imported_Comdidia
01-01-2004, 09:05
If you go to war Comdidia will send whatever it can to help you if you need it. Most likely it will only be in the defense of yourself.

-General Colbert, Supreme head of Comdidia.
Lapse
01-01-2004, 09:10
If you go to war Comdidia will send whatever it can to help you if you need it. Most likely it will only be in the defense of yourself.

-General Colbert, Supreme head of Comdidia.thank you comdidia, i will contact you if assistance is needed
Jedi Revolutionists
01-01-2004, 09:12
Find a real legitament reason to go to war, and I will take you seriously as a national leader.
Lapse
01-01-2004, 09:42
Find an explaination to your spy in my region

You have half an hour left
Lapse
01-01-2004, 10:06
10 minutes
Pwnica
01-01-2004, 10:36
[code:1:7325fafedd]Telegram

From: General Axx, Pwnica Ground/Sea forces
To: Lapse
CC: General Glyfforian, Pwnica Air/Space forces

We wish to inform you, that if needed, we are willing to assist you in the defense of your nation. Please telegram us if help is required.
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Lapse
01-01-2004, 10:44
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110391&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

the war