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War against Doujin

Panzizm
29-12-2003, 05:09
I, along with my good ally, The Fedral Union am sick of your contry and have had enough of your contrys actions and abuses. War must be the only way to get rid of this problem.
Lord Panzolf
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 05:11
The Fedral Union will support this war with all force nessary .
(but now i have to go see ya )
Tayricht
29-12-2003, 05:14
What has this country done to you?
Iuthia
29-12-2003, 05:14
To: Leaders of Panzizm
From: Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
Subject: Regarding Declaration of War
Message:

We would like to know more details of why you feel you must go to war with this nation, from what we can tell they are not a threat to world peace and have so far not managed to gain our attention with anything more then some interesting technologies...

Please state your reasons clearly with examples so we may investigate this thoroughly.

Thanks,

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Euroslavia
29-12-2003, 05:16
Wrong move buddy. Euroslavia opposes any military action seeing as war is the LAST resort. Have you even given diplomacy a chance?
The Golden Simatar
29-12-2003, 05:18
Though Doujin and myself are sick of each other we keep are distance. I agree with Euroslavia. Use diplomacy.
29-12-2003, 05:22
Any action taken against Doujin will result in retaliation by The Dark Legions of Skullzz. I have no further comments on the situation.

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload1/Skullzz23.jpg
29-12-2003, 05:23
The 7th fleet...Has done good business with the Doujin's in the past, If any nation Decides to launch a first strike VS Doujin Targets, and If they request it the 7th fleet will aid Doujin Forces in any way we can. Please in the interest's of avoiding war, Thousands of young people being killed. Exhaust all diplomatic avenues before you go to war.
Crossroads Inc
29-12-2003, 05:24
From the Desk of the Lord High CEO of Crossroads Inc:

My Delegates have informed me of a declaration of war against our good friends. We do not currently wish to dive into a conflict as we are still a young nation and wish for the Nation of Panzizm to explain itself and it's actions.

CEO.
29-12-2003, 05:26
We issue our strong condemnation of this action, and demand cessation of hostilities. You have failed to provide any valid reasons for war, save for "I don't like him", and it seems you have not made any geniune attempts at diplomacy either. Doujin has provided us with much military equipment at reasonable prices, and has committed no acts of aggression against your nation. If we are forced to, we will defend their nation from your wanton aggression.

Edit: Messed up tags. I must be byslexic ;)
The Golden Simatar
29-12-2003, 05:27
Please Panzizm, we already have to many wars. Why are you angry with Doujin? Something he said? Something he did? Please enlighten us.
Soviet Bloc
29-12-2003, 05:28
The ARSB is willing to defend Doujin if the need arises. However, we can not stress enough that this should be solved diplomatically and not by an impulsive declaration of war.
GaalSien
29-12-2003, 05:29
GaalSien Senate

As a close ally of the nation, Skullzz. We fully support any action it wishes to take in defence of Doujin and will follow through with military action if need be.
29-12-2003, 05:47
As always Afbrianistan will take the side of Tayricht.
Crossroads Inc
29-12-2003, 06:03
The Great High and Mighty Lord CEO of Crossroads inc wishes to express the rather random and ill-founded reasons behind this declaration. If reasons cannot be put forth for open warefare It is suggested the act of hostilities are ignored by the other compitant nations.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 08:15
the fedral union is being ignored, so if you do want wage war with me, i will not accept any attacks from him.

Along with that, I will call in the aid of my customers who have pledged their support for my nation in any future conflict. I do not recall ever dealing with your nation in the past, and regret this is the way you start relations with Doujin.

Doujin sees war as a last resort, and wants to reach a diplomatic solution before anything happens. Our military forces will stay at a low alert level, as we trust we can come to a diplomatic solution, as a sign of our good faith in resolving this conflict.

Doujin also would like to thank the the many nations who pledged their support in this conflict already, you will not be forgotten.
Svalvard
29-12-2003, 08:26
What has Doujin done ?? If you have no reason then i shall also back Doujin. I dont know Doujin but i would like to open up trade between him after this is resolved, Diplomatically i hope. If force is Used we shall retaliate in the Defence of Doujin.
29-12-2003, 08:27
What has Doujin done ?? If you have no reason then i shall also back Doujin. I dont know Doujin but i would like to open up trade between him after this is resolved, Diplomatically i hope. If force is Used we shall retaliate in the Defence of Doujin.

Doujin has done nothing, except maybe build battleships a bit slow. :P
Doujin
29-12-2003, 08:35
lol - you couldn't feasibly produce battleships faster than me and make a profit :P hell I had soemone try to order 500 battleships; i forgot about the 22.5 million tons of steel that I would need to make them...
29-12-2003, 08:37
lol - you couldn't feasibly produce battleships faster than me and make a profit :P hell I had soemone try to order 500 battleships; i forgot about the 22.5 million tons of steel that I would need to make them... Maybe you should get a few more construction yards up. :P
Midlonia
29-12-2003, 08:38
HRH's Governments of Midlonia and Midlania will defend Doujin if war does become inevitable
29-12-2003, 08:42
Cancunia would like to mediate on this issue. If it turns out that War is inevitable, The Warriors of Cancunia will be glad to join the side they believe is right. This will help hone our skills of battle.

Imperial Council of Cancunia
Doujin
29-12-2003, 09:10
heh we have enough shipyards to make ships - the thing is it does take time you cant have a vessel out within a month of starting it
29-12-2003, 09:13
Though I'm sure Doijin alone could adaquately defend itself, much less with the veritable legions that have just now pledged their aid, my acquired respect for Doujin dictates that, should it be necessary, Cronoeria's military forces will be dispatched to end all hostilities against Doujin.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 09:28
Doujin thanks you for your support, Cronoeria. It will not be forgotten.
29-12-2003, 09:31
It's rare for a new nation to be as self sufficient and progressive (technologically) as Doujin. As such, it would appear that the less capable, newer nations hold a grudge. Rather pointless, and should it result in the eradication of said immature nations, rather regrettable.
Austica
29-12-2003, 09:33
Austica will send military force to the region in support of Doujin. This war has lasted long enough. We shall join with Cronoeria in ending the hostilities.

Ministry of Defence
God Save the King!
Cartoria
29-12-2003, 09:43
what are the reasons for attack? after our war wraps up shortly we shall take action if we see necessary
29-12-2003, 09:44
Surely we can talk this over.
Can you afford a war?
Can you afford to lose a war?
Can you afford to win a war?
Can you afford not to talk? :roll:
29-12-2003, 09:45
Surely we can talk this over.
Can you afford a war?
Can you afford to lose a war?
Can you afford to win a war?
Can you afford not to talk? :roll:

Can you afford to replace that enter key? :roll:
Austica
29-12-2003, 09:48
My countries involvement is to end hostilities quickly and at a minimum of cost to human life. If this can be talked out of, we will be invloved, otherwise we will end the conflict quickly and painlessly.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 10:30
Surely we can talk this over.
Can you afford a war?
Can you afford to lose a war?
Can you afford to win a war?
Can you afford not to talk? :roll:

Can you afford to replace that enter key? :roll:

:lol:

Can you afford to win a war isn't the question Colinda, they wouldn't win.
29-12-2003, 13:58
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/nssn_m2.jpg

*someware on Patrol waiting to Retaliate for any first strike VS Doujin Targets*

:) also you are welcome

OOC: I think that panzer person is the same as the Federated union (a puppet) or perhaps a friend of whoever runs the Federated union.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 14:01
Wouldn't surprise me.
29-12-2003, 14:07
Me Either, Just letting our warlike lil friends know if they do decide to strike :) The 7th fleet will not be afraid to Painfully Perforate them :-p
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 14:08
[code:1:614c6aaddc]Telegram

To: All parties involved
From: General Axx, Pwnica Sea/Ground forces
CC: General Glyfforian, Pwnica Air/Space forces

We will assist Doujin if the conflict escalates and/or Doujin decides to retaliate.

We await the response of the aggressors.
We helped kick one of your asses once, and by god, we'll do it again if needed.
[/code:1:614c6aaddc]

[OOC]
*Mortal Kombat's Scorpion voice*
GET OVER HERE!
Doujin
29-12-2003, 14:14
Thank you Pwnica.

That sub seems a bit old, it isn't one of mine is it - atleast it better not, u be treatin my subs bad? :x
29-12-2003, 14:19
lol it was supposed to be a sea wolf <_< Their is not an abundance of Pic's out there. But i found a better one :) I hope whoever it was that started this thread comes and either backs down or launches some kind of action soon :twisted:
McLeod03
29-12-2003, 14:20
Doujin, if this escalates, you have the support of the full McLeodian Empire.

Fedral - you have been destroyed once, don't make it happen again.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 14:20
http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujinishi/Sea_Wolf_Submarine.jpg

thats the sea wolf in my storefront :p
--
IC:
Thank you McLeod03.
29-12-2003, 14:23
OOC: Keep in mind the Doujin's have the Federated union on ignore :) But most of the Allies do not...kind of like Christmas ;) its the thought that counts, As for the Sub pic I know, BUT i did not want it to appear one of my subs was attacking anything <_< Just laying in wait with a bunch of missiles.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 14:46
:? :? .... Ok....... Im in another war now so i cant deal with this..

I must have been drunk last night ..

I recant what ever the hell i said last night.
29-12-2003, 14:55
:? :? .... Ok....... Im in another war now so i cant deal with this..

I must have been drunk last night ..

I recant what ever the hell i said last night.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
29-12-2003, 14:56
:? :? .... Ok....... Im in another war now so i cant deal with this..

I must have been drunk last night ..

I recant what ever the hell i said last night.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, by the way, I'm laughing AT you, not with, you cowardly fool.
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 14:56
Heh.
Alright.
Maybe the topic creator will back down now, losing his only supporter.
And if he doesn't...well...all I have to say is: :twisted:
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 14:57
:?
Midlonia
29-12-2003, 14:58
OOC: somehow...... i think they have reconsidered..........
New Empire
29-12-2003, 15:05
:?
Hey, TFU, Doujin and I are ignoring you, so uh, leave.

Anyway, I'm not ignoring that other poor sap.
We have already mobilized the 55th, 12th, and 9th Strategic Strike Squadron should anyone try to attack Doujin.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 15:08
Im still like :? :? :? ?
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:10
[code:1:ac4ed3471a]Telegram

To: Doujin, Allies of Doujin
From: General Axx, Pwnica Sea/Ground Forces
CC: General Glyfforian, Pwnica Air/Space Forces

We formally request permission from Doujin to move forces (200 MLRSs, 50 Crusader Artillery Systems, 600 M1A2 Abrams Tanks, and 2 Nimitz Class Carriers (with 85 SU-37s on each) into Doujin territories for defence purposes, to be stationed where Doujin requests.
Forces may be toned down at Doujin's request.

Also, we would like to inform you that in case of attack we will immidiately and swiftly send forces to retailate.
[/code:1:ac4ed3471a]
New Empire
29-12-2003, 15:11
Im still like :? :? :? ?
How do you not understand TFU? We're ignoring you because of that RP...
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 15:14
Im noit fighting this war i have another protection ventuer going on ...
29-12-2003, 15:15
I see no reason for this war and I wish to ignor it
29-12-2003, 15:17
Well as u know Jambalya has a top noch military system. And we still don't know why you want to attack this nation besides that you do not like them. So if u r to attack our nations will be forced to join forces with Djouin if there is no diplomatic reasoning taking place. So bud you are up the Creek adn if you kee pressing this issue u r going to have some bombs up your ass
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:18
You barely have ANY military, above poster. Nothing purchased from here, plus you have a "Fair" economy so I don't expect you produced many things.
New Empire
29-12-2003, 15:18
Im noit fighting this war i have another protection ventuer going on ...
Well, you couldn't because Doujin's ignoring you.
Poles n Other Nations
29-12-2003, 15:21
The Mighty Commonwealth of Poles and Other Nations would like to secure its laws for looting corpses on the battlefield and can offer taking care of any orphans of the nation loosing the upcoming conflict, that are under 4 years old.

The PM of Commonwealth of Poles and Other Nations:
Mike Voznak
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:22
Im noit fighting this war i have another protection ventuer going on ...
Well, you couldn't because Doujin's ignoring you.

He could've fought the allies who aren't ignoring him.
29-12-2003, 15:35
OOC: Well as i said i think that federated union guy's puppet state started this thread
IC: Federated union and Company, The 7th fleet will take no preemptive action to attack, but if you should change your minds ever again and declare a war like this. The 7th fleet will be less than pleased...so watch your threats.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 15:42
I dont think i would chage my mind i have another small noob nation to protect.
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:43
TFU:
Who're you protecting him from?
Actually, who's the nation?
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 15:45
Im protecting a nation called Digital World From Kholint .... so im focusing on that .. And west IRAK And not its not spelt that way just dont know how to spell the names contry not may people do.
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:50
Oh. Well, if you need help, send me a link, I'll look it over and get back to you.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 15:57
Thanks

hears da link

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108990
Pwnica
29-12-2003, 15:58
I read the first 2 pages.
If Khol...whatever continues attacking you guys, TG me and I'll go over and help ya.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2003, 16:02
Thanks :)
Doujin
29-12-2003, 16:28
:? :? .... Ok....... Im in another war now so i cant deal with this..

I must have been drunk last night ..

I recant what ever the hell i said last night.

Your 16 and getting drunk? How pathetic - just goes to prove my point that you are a immature kid whos failing school and has no friends? Sad. I feel sorry for you, the fedral union. As for your friend, I am still waiting for his response.
Doujin
29-12-2003, 23:36
Guess he isn't going to reply.
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 01:17
OOC: Seeing as the future of NS warfare is pictures we shall be prepared for our logistical pictures...

Iuthia deploys...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3cC6bMAtLKoC:www.helenjane.com/Images/Chow/sandwiches/sandwich_big.gif

Sandwhiches for all our troops...

Troops fed... moral increases

What? You guys get to post pics of subs... I just wanted something to eat...
30-12-2003, 01:24
OOC: Seeing as the future of NS warfare is pictures we shall be prepared for our logistical pictures...

Iuthia deploys...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3cC6bMAtLKoC:www.helenjane.com/Images/Chow/sandwiches/sandwich_big.gif

Sandwhiches for all our troops...

Troops fed... moral increases

What? You guys get to post pics of subs... I just wanted something to eat...

I must be unstoppable in a war in this case... some of my less powerful regional allies are quite the sammich producers and have pledged their full deli support to me in case of a war. :twisted: Sammiches: 21st century killing machine fuel?
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 02:23
I must be unstoppable in a war in this case... some of my less powerful regional allies are quite the sammich producers and have pledged their full deli support to me in case of a war. :twisted: Sammiches: 21st century killing machine fuel?Yup... unless your army is made up of robots... then it's back to oil or hydrogen, only it's less taste and looks nasty.
30-12-2003, 02:53
The Most Serene Republic of Urthuk Khelkhor, while it has been observing the processes of trade that Doujin partakes in (as well as offering a bit of logistical advice suggesting that they may wish to reconsider attempting to fill a battleship order that requires 22.5 million tons of steel to build :shock: ), can see no purpose for the combined assault against them.

Our intelligence services and special forces are therefore going to offer the sale of defensive cruise missiles to be mounted at the borders and shores of Doujin for quite reasonable prices. As our economic and technological means are somewhat beyond theirs, we think it will behoove them greatly to purchase these weapons. They will be armed with warheads deploying biological weapons in the form of brain-wasting toxins that will make those who are struck by them look like this guy:

http://home.teleport.com/~stiltman/images.jpg

Fear our picture power! :twisted: :twisted:

Monetary prices for these weapons may be negotiated with the Doujin leadership. We are also prepared to deploy orbital weapons versions of these pointed just off the Doujin borders, which will be answerable to the MSR's command and control. We swear this is only out of concern that any strike upon Doujin may render these valuable weapons useless and dead in space. Really. :wink:

OOC: I'm partly hamming it up on the picture, but the joke that NS warfare seems to be waged with such pictures seemed a little too good not to play on. :lol:
Doujin
30-12-2003, 05:16
The Most Serene Republic of Urthuk Khelkhor, while it has been observing the processes of trade that Doujin partakes in (as well as offering a bit of logistical advice suggesting that they may wish to reconsider attempting to fill a battleship order that requires 22.5 million tons of steel to build :shock: ), can see no purpose for the combined assault against them.

Our intelligence services and special forces are therefore going to offer the sale of defensive cruise missiles to be mounted at the borders and shores of Doujin for quite reasonable prices. As our economic and technological means are somewhat beyond theirs, we think it will behoove them greatly to purchase these weapons. They will be armed with warheads deploying biological weapons in the form of brain-wasting toxins that will make those who are struck by them look like this guy:

http://home.teleport.com/~stiltman/images.jpg

Fear our picture power! :twisted: :twisted:

Monetary prices for these weapons may be negotiated with the Doujin leadership. We are also prepared to deploy orbital weapons versions of these pointed just off the Doujin borders, which will be answerable to the MSR's command and control. We swear this is only out of concern that any strike upon Doujin may render these valuable weapons useless and dead in space. Really. :wink:

OOC: I'm partly hamming it up on the picture, but the joke that NS warfare seems to be waged with such pictures seemed a little too good not to play on. :lol:

Weaposn of Mass Destruction will never be used in a war, however, we do possess tactical nuclear warheads to put the threat of mutually assured destruction in the air. Doujin has no plans to launch these nuclear missiles in any conflict, but if an explosive device of the same kind(another nuclear weapon) is launched against Doujin, we will take action.

Furthermore, we condemn The Most Serene Republic of Urthuk Kheklhor's offer and give them this warning - offering weapons of mass destruction to nations can only bring more harm than it can good.
Five Civilized Nations
30-12-2003, 05:26
Doujin if you need any help dealing with these druggies, just holler... Oh, also I'm providing you with US$100 billion to fund any purchases...
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 06:01
Doujin if you need any help dealing with these druggies, just holler... Oh, also I'm providing you with US$100 billion to fund any purchases...

I find that remark offencive! Iuthia has had legalised drugs usesince the begining of our nation and we've turned out great... we do not wish our slightly high citizens to be compared with these idiotic nations.
Doujin
30-12-2003, 06:21
Doujin if you need any help dealing with these druggies, just holler... Oh, also I'm providing you with US$100 billion to fund any purchases...

Doujin has slightly over 30 trillion dollars at it's disposal. We thank you for the offer, however.
Panzizm
30-12-2003, 06:43
..hmm this is a bit odd. I am a friend of the fedral union, and he asked me to make this forum, because he was being ignored by Doujin. He had some reasons why, to make it. So I just decided, why not. So I made it. But now everyone thinks I'm the person who started this all, when really Fedral Union asked me to make it. And now i see that he isnt even gonna fight in it. Well then the war is over, I have no problem with Doujin, I was just aiding a friend, and he abonded me. I am sorry for this, hope this won't ruin relations between any of us. Thank you
Lord Panzolf
Pwnica
30-12-2003, 06:47
lol.

TFU - if someone is ignoring you, getting someone else to make a topic for you won't magically make them (first person) stop ignoring you.
:roll:
:D
Doujin
30-12-2003, 06:50
lol.

TFU - if someone is ignoring you, getting someone else to make a topic for you won't magically make them (first person) stop ignoring you.
:roll:
:D

He's 16, he is hardly educated, and he apparently drinks alcohol. What else would you expect from him, Pwnica? :? Personally I feel sorry for him.
Pwnica
30-12-2003, 06:52
Well, I can't really post what I think, because I've been in more than a few scuffles involving the mods with him, so now I'm just trying to calm it down.
Doujin
30-12-2003, 06:53
Well, I can't really post what I think, because I've been in more than a few scuffles involving the mods with him, so now I'm just trying to calm it down.

TG me with what you think, I'm interested :)
Panzizm
30-12-2003, 07:40
Well, I can't really post what I think, because I've been in more than a few scuffles involving the mods with him, so now I'm just trying to calm it down.

your not talking about me are you?
Zvarinograd
30-12-2003, 07:47
OOC:
For once, can't people read the whole thing before posting?

No, you idiot. They were talking about The Federal Union and by the way, you have a lot of nations against you right now because your reason for attacking Doujin isn't good enough or has no proof. Have a nice day.
Panzizm
30-12-2003, 07:55
why dont you read..the whole thing..as i said before the war is over, sence the only reason i wrote it was to help fedral union cause he said he needed it, and he asked me to write it sence he was ignored..as i said before. So really there was no war, and im hoping wont be, i have nothing against Doujin, i was as i said helping a friend who said he needed it, which apprently he didn't. So you yourself my dear friend may have a nice day.
Pwnica
30-12-2003, 07:57
Uhm, that has no relevance. You could've read all of this page before asking if what I said was about you.
30-12-2003, 07:59
Does this mean we don't get to blow anything up? :(
Panzizm
30-12-2003, 08:00
i did read all the page actully. sorry people make mistakes, because it was just after i wrote something, and i have had alot of run ins with the mods, so i was just wondering. excuse me.
30-12-2003, 13:47
The Most Serene Republic is mildly confused at Doujin's reasoning. They condemn us for offering them weapons of mass destruction... and they don't want them anyway because they have ones of their own that are several orders of magnitude deadlier? Are the rabid arms capitalists under the impression that we are making this as an open offer to the market, that indeed, everyone who sells arms must be doing so without condition?

We offer these warheads as a token of friendship, collectible by Doujin alone. As our offer of friendship has been rudely rejected, we regret to say that we have no further business with that nation to conduct.

OOC: Small side remark... um, Doujin, I get this feeling that you're going to get called for god-modding just about every time anyone ever bothers to actually look at the numbers of what your nation is capable of doing. Before it was 500 battleships for sale, now it's a 30 trillion dollar bank account. According to the calculators, that is 1869% of your present GDP. (That's right, as in almost nineteen years' worth.) Needless to say, no nation actually has cash reserves that high in proportion to its GDP, nor is it possible for a nation to multiply its cash flow that dramatically by international arms sales.

Please learn to play within your limits. The forums are a way to roleplay your nation as it is, not a way to cheat the system and try to elevate your nation to riches it simply isn't capable of getting its hands on.
Doujin
30-12-2003, 13:57
The Most Serene Republic is mildly confused at Doujin's reasoning. They condemn us for offering them weapons of mass destruction... and they don't want them anyway because they have ones of their own that are several orders of magnitude deadlier? Are the rabid arms capitalists under the impression that we are making this as an open offer to the market, that indeed, everyone who sells arms must be doing so without condition?

We offer these warheads as a token of friendship, collectible by Doujin alone. As our offer of friendship has been rudely rejected, we regret to say that we have no further business with that nation to conduct.

OOC: Small side remark... um, Doujin, I get this feeling that you're going to get called for god-modding just about every time anyone ever bothers to actually look at the numbers of what your nation is capable of doing. Before it was 500 battleships for sale, now it's a 30 trillion dollar bank account. According to the calculators, that is 1869% of your present GDP. (That's right, as in almost nineteen years' worth.) Needless to say, no nation actually has cash reserves that high in proportion to its GDP, nor is it possible for a nation to multiply its cash flow that dramatically by international arms sales.

Please learn to play within your limits. The forums are a way to roleplay your nation as it is, not a way to cheat the system and try to elevate your nation to riches it simply isn't capable of getting its hands on.

Urthuk, before talking about my limits you might want to read some previous threads by me. Oh, and if you doubt my 30 trillion dollar surplus, talk to Jangle Jangle Ridge.

Oh, and as for the nuclear weapons we have - they are just for the threat of mututally assured destruction. I highly doubt I would everh ave to use them, and if it came to that I wouldn't - I won't commit genocide.

This has been an OOC post by Doujin
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 16:21
Urthuk, before talking about my limits you might want to read some previous threads by me. Oh, and if you doubt my 30 trillion dollar surplus, talk to Jangle Jangle Ridge.

Oh, and as for the nuclear weapons we have - they are just for the threat of mututally assured destruction. I highly doubt I would everh ave to use them, and if it came to that I wouldn't - I won't commit genocide.

This has been an OOC post by Doujin

OOC: 30 Trillion?!!! That is god-moding by any accounting... please link how you got it along with a good explanation on why it isn't god moding... I'm easily 17 times your size and I don't have that much cash... bearing in mind have the same economic status (Very Good)
Doujin
30-12-2003, 16:22
Contact Jangle Jangle Ridge.. Need I say it 5 more times?
The Fedral Union
30-12-2003, 16:23
...... I think a mod should lock this thread ....
Doujin
30-12-2003, 16:24
I think you need to stay out of it.

This has been an OOC post by Doujin
Unum Veritas
30-12-2003, 16:27
I'm not sure about Doujin having that amount of cash. However I set aside the profits from my storefront and any of my military budget that I don't use for "a rainy day". I still subtract $1 trillion per year for fuel, munitions, training, R&D, etc. just to be on the safe side and to not be accused of godmodding. However the cash still acumulates after a while, and since I've not purchased any ships recently (keeping my navy to 9 armadas) the cash saved is quite a bit (not going to release exact numbers as of now). Personally I don't view saving unused funds/profits as godmodding, but perhaps that view isn't shared?

Edit: My economy is and has been for quite a long time "Frightening"
The Fedral Union
30-12-2003, 16:28
Doujin Dont tell me what to do and dont start flameing !) And with his ecnomy i dont think he could have that mutch money ...
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 16:29
Contact Jangle Jangle Ridge.. Need I say it 5 more times?

No, I'm asking you to tell me... I want both sides because it is god-moding from most points of understanding I know.
The Fedral Union
30-12-2003, 16:33
:roll: :roll:
Doujin
30-12-2003, 16:41
Doujin Dont tell me what to do and dont start flameing !) And with his ecnomy i dont think he could have that mutch money ...

Jangle Jangle Ridge has an economy of "frightening" and a population of over 2 billion tfu.

-Edit-
*I'm sick, let my anger get ahead of me :? *
New Empire
30-12-2003, 16:45
TFU (I no longer feel the need to write out your mispelled name), if you're ignoring Doujin, don't RP with him, don't ask people to attack him, don't reply to his threads, unless you want to acknowledge casualties from that war RP. I'm not flaming, and I will mention it because Doujin was involved in it. And seriously, WTF is going on? A 16 year old from NY drinking? Who also can't spell? If you want to drink, go ahead, but it isn't going to make you look very credible telling everyone on the forums.
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 16:48
The reasons you can't get a huge budget from store fronts... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80256)

Please read this, 30 Trillion should not be just handled to nations, beside the fact that the nation that does that will be messing it's own economy up by giving that much away, it may harm your own economy...

It's just stupid for someone to give a small nation that much and as such I'm tempted to ignore it.
Unum Veritas
30-12-2003, 16:53
The reasons you can't get a huge budget from store fronts... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80256)

Please read this, 30 Trillion should not be just handled to nations, beside the fact that the nation that does that will be messing it's own economy up by giving that much away, it may harm your own economy...

It's just stupid for someone to give a small nation that much and as such I'm tempted to ignore it.

He was given the cash? Oh. At least I've just saved mine up over a long period of time (RL months).
Unum Veritas
30-12-2003, 16:54
Although can you really ignore it? So far as Doujin is concerned the gift was legitimate. It may have sent JJR's economy down the drain, but it was still given to Doujin in good faith, so can it rightfully be ignored?
Doujin
30-12-2003, 16:55
imo it can't UV. And Iuthia, I -barely- make a profit from my storefront, the only reason I have one is because I like doing it and it's apart of my plan(Doujin is run by Doujinshi Corporation)
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 16:57
Although can you really ignore it? So far as Doujin is concerned the gift was legitimate. It may have sent JJR's economy down the drain, but it was still given to Doujin in good faith, so can it rightfully be ignored?

I've not even had the chance to see if JJR can afford it, I mean I doubt even he has a budget of 30 trillion to give in one go... and "give" is an assumption, he could of overspent for something, I've not had a reply nor have I had a chance to look for the thread...

But it is a blatant abuse of economics tosay the least.
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 16:59
imo it can't UV. And Iuthia, I -barely- make a profit from my storefront, the only reason I have one is because I like doing it and it's apart of my plan(Doujin is run by Doujinshi Corporation)

Fair enough, it needed to be said, alot of people supplement their stupid military budgets by selling more then they can produce.

But I still dispute that you can have 30 Trillion to spend at anyone time... it's a stupidly large sum of money, at least 5 times my national budget...
Doujin
30-12-2003, 17:02
Yes, and if you didn't spend that for a RL week you would have that much money :P I'm sick, i should be in bed not argueing wether or not I have money.. lol
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 17:04
Yes, and if you didn't spend that for a RL week you would have that much money :P I'm sick, i should be in bed not argueing wether or not I have money.. lol

Fair enough, get well so I can slate you.
Doujin
30-12-2003, 17:06
:cry:
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 17:10
:cry:

Don't worry, I meant that in a none-blowing the holy crap out of your nation-way...

I just don't like it when smaller nations manage to get more money then me through donations.

I'm not going to ignore your nation you anything, you've done better then most for a starting nation and I won't ignore you outright... just your 30 Trillion. :D
Lietuveska
30-12-2003, 17:14
Lietuveska must announce that if any conflict had occured, Doujin would have had the support of our government. We have similar interests ( :wink: ) and must help those that are innocent.

OOC:

Just because someone drinks at the age of 16 doesn't make them a pathetic case. Sometimes people generalize too much, two of my sister's friends drink occassionally, and they aren't complete failures. They're actually pretty good guys. :P
New Empire
30-12-2003, 17:19
OOC-He ain't pathetic because of drinking, but considering he acts like he did when he was supposedly drinking a lot, has really bad language skills, it can make you sort of suspicious.
Iuthia
30-12-2003, 17:26
Bah... I'm 19, I drink (occasionally) and even when drunk I can type properly, I should know, it's when my more insane posts come about. But it's just an excuse to say that drinking impairs your typing skills...



Excuses that are exceptable:

English is not my first language

I've lost both my hands and I'm using my tongue... ( :wink: )

I'm typing at gun point, thus I'm nervous...

I'm devoid of any typing skills and I'm actually a technophobe.

I'm just not good with computers, people invented the delete button so I would accidently delete my hard drive.