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His "rouges" tried to kill my president, and he is a terrorist organization. Please read this link, it has the whole story in it.
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I will post the troops and such that I am sending to fight him later.

If he's a terrorist organisation, wouldn't that make him hard to find? Seeing as they usually don't give you an address?

Your declaration is without adequate proof. So therefore, Wengard's efforts in this matter will be used to support The Swords of Chaqal should unneccesary bloodshed come to pass.

I pin pointed the head of his organization through diplomatic talks, and my Space Command ship has been tracking it. So, right now, as we speak, I know right where he sits.

And my declaration is with plenty of proof. He is the one that said that they were his "rouges" and he him self said that he was a terrorist organization.

A small conversation between Emperor Yayo and Army General Curtis Jackson concerning the declaration of war against The Swords of Chaqal was captured this morning and brought to ESCNA.

Audio

Emperor: It's bullshit you know.
Curtis: Yeah, some real shit. We can't do shit with it though. Just our political support.
Emperor: Yeah. Make a statement, declaring support for Grays Hill.

Grays Hill greatfully thanks Diminix for the political support. Through the thick and the thin, we, together shall stay great allies.

If he's a terrorist organisation, wouldn't that make him hard to find? Seeing as they usually don't give you an address?
OOC: Look at Afganistain, the US declared war on them. Almost the same basicly. Sure it will still be hard but not impossible. :)
IC: The Free Corporation of Nano Soft supports Grays Hills in his war against thi terrorist and we are gladly to help you if you allow.

Ten of the best and highly trained pilots of the Elite Bombing Force (EBF) were awaked at the sound of their General yelling at them to wake up. The quickly got dressed, and scrambled to their bombers. They didnt know the spec of their operation, but they knew that they were going to kill someone. As they all took off in their B-2 Stealth bombers, they were briefed. They now knew that they were heading to a large neighborhood with many small housed clumped together. In the one on their radar, sat the head of the terrorist organization of Swords of Chaqal. Not to long later, they were headed home, seeing the houses in that section of the neighborhood lie in ruins on fire.

And my declaration is with plenty of proof. He is the one that said that they were his "rouges" and he him self said that he was a terrorist organization.

OOC: He said he was terrorist OOC.

IC: Rogues not under his control. You must realize many countries have criminals that act outside their governments control. He also confessed that his soldiers consume anti-truth serum, and would be able to lie under the drug.

OOC: Look at Afganistain, the US declared war on them. Almost the same basicly. Sure it will still be hard but not impossible. :)

OOC: They didn't actually destroy the organisation they set out to get, plus that was done with actually looking into where they were. They didn't just say "Hey, I know where they are because everyone has a location that is known to us" If this nation is found using IC investigation then I'm ok with it, but if people just delcare war on it like it was a nation then they don't have a clue...

But hey, Afganistan was full of terrorist right? Not like we bombed a couple thousand civilians huh? It's not like it isn't a broken country now?

Then again, if you think, he should have killed them. He knew right where they were. Thats how I knew where they were, because he told me.

OOC: Look at Afganistain, the US declared war on them. Almost the same basicly. Sure it will still be hard but not impossible. :)

OOC: They didn't actually destroy the organisation they set out to get, plus that was done with actually looking into where they were. They didn't just say "Hey, I know where they are because everyone has a location that is known to us" If this nation is found using IC investigation then I'm ok with it, but if people just delcare war on it like it was a nation then they don't have a clue...

But hey, Afganistan was full of terrorist right? Not like we bombed a couple thousand civilians huh? It's not like it isn't a broken country now?
OOC: True but every organisation has to have a HQ. But most likely he should be able to find it.

I didn't say Afganistan was full of terrorist.

Why do you write so small?

IC: So what if they are druged Wengard! Drugs wear off! So they will wear off sometime and then he can question them..

Your proof is circumstancial, so we must remain against your decision.

The Free Corporation of Nano Soft supports Grays Hills in his war against thi terrorist and we are gladly to help you if you allow.
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OOC: True but every organisation has to have a HQ. But most likely he should be able to find it.

I didn't say Afganistan was full of terrorist.

OOC: Two reasons I write so small, firstly cause I'm actually a dwarf. Secondly because it helps to save room and destinguish between my OOC and IC posts.

They haven't got Osama Bin Laden yet and Al-quada (sp) is still operating in many different nations, none of which can be said to have a pyshical HQ of which we can bomb... it's never that easy.

Made the point about Afganistan not being full of terrorists as a way of saying that while attacking a nation to get at a terrorist organisation seems like a good idea, it doesn't actually work... it was bombed because of terrorism but there wasn't all that many terrorists who were bombed.

It's a bad example, we got some of them but hardly enough to stop all the terrorist acts that are still happening, there are better ways of dealing with terrorism, bombing a nation isn't one of them.

Ok, enough about Afghanistan.

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(OOC: Clarification on Afghanistan: We attacked training camps, not a HQ. And yes, their camps were destroyed and there is no argument that dismisses that fact)

IC: The Kaiser has shrugged off this war as a mere incident. Talk to us again when you have a real battle for us to witness.

Then again, if you think, he should have killed them. He knew right where they were. Thats how I knew where they were, because he told me.

To: Leadership of Greys Hill
From: Lord General deGritz, Iuthia Prima, Iuthia
Subject: More evidence required for support
Message:

We would like more evidence as to how you aquired the location of this terrorist organistation and who gave it to you, we ask this to determine whether your nation acts rationally against a terrorist camp or irrationally against a village... should the latter be found we will move in to assist the nation you would bomb and to defend against further attacks.*

Should the former be found we will support you financially so you may work harder to find all of this organisation. However we would ask that you try another method that will not kill innocent lives, if you work with the naiotn they (terrorists) have taken residence in you can gain the will of the people to help you and stop perpetuating more terrorist actions against your nation... because when members die morners will turn against you.

So please help us determine your evidences worth, should you not provide adiquate evidence or simply ignore us we will assume it is an irrational action and assist the accused nation.

Thanks,

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* OOC Please link the thread where you got your evidence from in a IC manner, as any evidence in a OOC manner will be ignored.

He is the one that said he is a terrorist organization. Thats why I said read that link, so that i would have to explain everything.

OOC: Again I stress he said he was terrorist OOC, it's not valid reasoning!

Anyone that has anything conneted to terrorist needs to be killed.

OOC: Except your country shouldn't actually KNOW he's terrorist.

Well we do know, BECAUSE HE TOLD US! WHAT DONT YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT!?!??!?!?

OOC:Yes,but I told it OOCly,so even if you did know,you wouldn't be able to do anything about it ICly :)
Oh, and my leader is better protected than a small neighborhood. :wink: OH! AND in my very first post on that thread it was signed,"Speaker for the SOC"So that was only a "representative" of sorts(I must be realy pissing you off now, huh :wink:
IC:

Fools!You shall not catch us!Our members are spread across Mars and Earth,in the very darkest corners!Try.Once you catch one of our members,we shall know that you are worthy of being our adversary and go to war with you.

-Speaker for the SOC

Well then I blew up the place the speaker was in. Whether he died or not is not my choice, but all the buildings were destroid and on fire.

OOC:Could I please have some geography on your nation before I attack you?It is so bothersome trying to sort things out after X posts that they sail towards Ys' nation,but just then find out that they are a landlocked nation.

I am landlocked. You have to go through Diminix airspace to get to me, and that would violate him, and he would shoot you down, not to mention, that would anget The Reich.

BTW, you dont stand a chance in an all out war. The president has been moved out of the country. Along with the vice president and their families. Being we dont have a congress, senate, or even a house, they didnt go anywyere, becasuse we dont have them. The president is running the country from another country. All flights into and out of Grays Hill have been stopped. No cars are alloud in or out. And all train systems have been shut down. Our ground forces have massed all around our countries borders. We have 24 hour air supiorty. And if I were you, I wouldnt try to launch a nuke. Try and get in.

OOC:Right, but we have stealth and...erm...sneakyness! :D Don't worry;If we can't get by you, we'll just pummel your army into the ground using guerrilla tactics.

Well then I blew up the place the speaker was in. Whether he died or not is not my choice, but all the buildings were destroid and on fire.

OOC: Swords of Chagal, please either get a nation to agree that it was their village that was bombed or make a puppet nation (not a terrorist nation but a real nation with leaders) so that someone may call casualities for the stupid act commited by Grays Hill...

I assume you have either lost one terrorist or none because no one is stupid enough to stay in one place after declaring they are terrorists so it is likely that he buggered off before the military bombers of Grays Hill could fly several hours away to your guy.

Meanwhile the nation who was bombed will need to state what they have lost in civilians. If you cannot get someone to help, I'll make a puppet, but I'd rather the nation was real.

IC:
Open Statement from Iuthian Leadership

We fullly condemn the actions of the Nation Grays Hill for bombing a small village in without aquiring accurate information on the possibilities of a terrorist presence, while one member of the terrorist organisation "Swords of Chagal" has been spotted within the vicinity of this village the normal smart move would have been an attempt to capture them and not bomb a small nieghborhood in an attempt to kill him.

We feel we have no choice but to place Economic Embargos on your nation for the duration of 10yrs after you have been found to be a reasonable governement again.

Meanwhile we will be sending forces into the area to further protect the nation from further Grays Hill aggression and offer aid to the slain civilians in this nation you feel compelled to bomb.

Thanks,

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OOC: Sword of Chagal, I assume that the terrorist cell that is operating in the area has not evacuated the nation, just gone into hiding. Eitherway if you have a spokes person there it is safe to say that you will have a cell of terrorists in the nation for him to communicate with.

Eitherways, what I haven't said IC is the fact that among the forces sent to protect this nation will be forces used to route out the PDF movement we once had in Iuthia, they will be using much more effective methods of finding your terrorist cell which will be RPed once it is established (OOC) that it is worth me looking.

OOC:Right, but we have stealth and...erm...sneakyness! :D Don't worry;If we can't get by you, we'll just pummel your army into the ground using guerrilla tactics.

There is no way in. :lol: All incomming calls from other nations have been stopped, and civilians recieve an update on the situation every 15 minutes. They know that they are to stay inside. Those who go out, do so at their own risk. Any suspisous person is rounded up and taken to an interogation cell. Terrorist will not enter Grays Hill.

OOC:Right, but we have stealth and...erm...sneakyness! :D Don't worry;If we can't get by you, we'll just pummel your army into the ground using guerrilla tactics.

OOC: Iuthia's Personal Ideas of Pro's and Cons of a Terrorist Nation

Ok Chagal, you need some hints, while I feel you are doing ok, some parts of your RP can be abusive, for example it is hard to find you and fight you... well here is some balancing tips you need to think about, you may or may not use them but if you don't balance your nation some how I will delcare you a god-moder and ignore your attacks outright.


Firstly you should have an idea of how many members you have in your organisation, if you say "As much as my UN profile" I will ignore you, because that is really god-moding. No one terrorist organisation can support that without spliting into many many splinter organisations, you don't have enough nations to support that many recruits (because you're not a conventional nation, you have to savenge recuits from others).

A suggestion would be to get some nations to hide in and then list them in a OOC thread or in a text document, it would be nice if an outside part had a copy of this so they could back you up and say you are not cheating. Also you should RP setting up a cell in each of these nations (with permission from the nation owner, you couldn't set up one in Iuthia because it's impossible with your current mind set) then list it as a nation you have forces in.

Both of these will give you important information, where you are and how many fighter you have their. Remember that the more people in you have in one place the easier you will be to find, so if you are in a nation that doesn't IC like you (but OOC let you get in) then you will have to have small cells of terrorists, rarely communicating with one another for safety. If the nation supports you, you may be able to have facilities and the such.


Secondly you will have to work out how you have good resources, I mean it's very hard for an organisation to come up with chemical weapons on their own... because you have to have facilities to do so, which means you need a nation to do it in. If this nation is found out then you will probably loose these facilities. Remember, this nation has to run normally as well as help you, so they won't always offer you alot. You will have to sucure funds too, which isn't easy because you need support. Do your guys have real jobs? Or just some of them...


As a rule of thumb, most of them will be poorly equipped but will have at least a few specialists in each cell who could make bombs and other supplies in a bodged sort of way... good equipment is saved for the big stuff and will be rare... you won't have much in the way of chemical weapons, at least no the advanced ones.


Aslo think about their mentality and how it was achieved... if they are fanatics they may be hard to interorgate but they may be easier to find in places because they are more likely to stick out... unless they are in a nation which is fanatical. It is also hard to get a well trained well disaplined terrorist when you have no real cause to fight for like you once told me, technology is very limited.


I'll stop here because I need a breather, I may think of more but a terrorist organisation that will be respected and not ignored will need alot of work and explaining, if you cannot balance your force you will be god-moding

"No one can kill my nation of terrorist they are everywhere" only works when your terrorists are limited themselves...


Finally, don't ever just say "My terrorists are in your nation, I recruit from your nation" that is like calling damage on his people, it's not right and you can be ignored for it, RP setting up a cell... but if he really doesn't want you to (OOC) then it's going to be hard and you will need flawless RP to force him.

There is no way in. All incomming calls from other nations have been stopped, and civilians recieve an update on the situation every 15 minutes. They know that they are to stay inside. Those who go out, do so at their own risk. Any suspisous person is rounded up and taken to an interogation cell. Terrorists will not enter Grays Hill.

OOC: Firstly, he can't kill all your army, he'll never achieve that, it's almost impossible, he will only have some forces which will have to be very sneaky when crossing the boarder (you can't cover all enterances to a nation, but you can make it very hard) which requires damn good infiltration RP. Remember that even though America is currently fighting terrorists and loyalists in Iraq they still have lots of soldiers, who will never be defeated out right, though they may leave... you on the other hand will not leave and there is a limited supply of terrorists he can get into your nation... they will eventually withdraw after doing some damaged or be captured. He can't win without working something OOC with you.

Yes, I know. We have set up a system, somewhat like the Great Wall of China. When somone is trying to cross, a signal goes up, and they are shot on the spot.

The Island Empire of Quanto decrees its assistance to the nation of Grays Hill, and is addressing all issues on the War as of now. Our Fleets await your command for planetary bombardment, Grays Hill.

The Supreme Space Fleet Admiral First Class, Dark Angels Chapter

The Island Empire of Quanto decrees its assistance to the nation of Grays Hill, and is addressing all issues on the War as of now. Our Fleets await your command for planetary bombardment, Grays Hill.

The Supreme Space Fleet Admiral First Class, Dark Angels Chapter

Yes, I know. We have set up a system, somewhat like the Great Wall of China. When somone is trying to cross, a signal goes up, and they are shot on the spot.

OOC: So it can never fail? Ever... not even if they were to deactivate part of it, or otherwise get over it?

Personally I would scope it out, find out what I could and then wait ten years planning an attack... that way you couldn't continue to isolate your nation and your guard would be down...

On the other hand, how much does this well guarded wall take from your military budget every year? I bet it's well in the tens of millions... maybe more.

This stuff costs money, the more tech involved the more upkeep you will have to do and pay for... the more guards the less military forces on offer (as you are spending them thin to protect the nations parameter)... yes, we all have weaknesses.

The Island Empire of Quanto decrees its assistance to the nation of Grays Hill, and is addressing all issues on the War as of now. Our Fleets await your command for planetary bombardment, Grays Hill.

The Supreme Space Fleet Admiral First Class, Dark Angels Chapter

To: Space Fleet Admiral of the Dark Angels Chapter
From: Lord General deGritz, Iuthia Prima, Iuthia
Subject: Planetary Bombardment
Message:

I suggest you move your forces well away from the orbit of the country we are now defending from the further agression that may occur from Grays Hill. They have been found guiltly by the Iuthian Government of bombing many civilians in the hope of killing one terrorist, and as such we now protect this nation from further bombardment.

Should your forces not move away from the said orbit within 3 hours will we engage your ill equipped fleet with our own forces, should you then not retreat our forces will continue the destruction of your vessals, seeing as we have evaluated our resources to be far superiour then that of your own we estimate the battle will not go well for you.

Please use the three hours time to look into the situation in more detail, should you have not withdrawn you will be destroyed.

Thanks,

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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OOC: Quanto, you don't have a space fleet. Well, you might have a few little shuttles. but you are far too small to even begin to support space operations.

IC:
The Naval Federation of Kelanis condemns Grays Hill's assault on the sovereign nation of Swords of Chagal, and has vowed to aid in the defense of said nation.

Also, ten cargo ships full of brownies are heading for Tremalkier, because we have too many. :D

its not a wall, but its like the great wall of china in the fact taht if someone is spotted the signal goes up, and then it gets passed on, and then everyone knows that they are there. And then they get shot.

its not a wall, but its like the great wall of china in the fact taht if someone is spotted the signal goes up, and then it gets passed on, and then everyone knows that they are there. And then they get shot.

What happens if I blow the wall to bits from orbit? Or with intercontinental cruise missiles?

OOC: Quanto, you don't have a space fleet. Well, you might have a few little shuttles. but you are far too small to even begin to support space operations.

IC:
The Naval Federation of Kelanis condemns Grays Hill's assault on the sovereign nation of Swords of Chagal, and has vowed to aid in the defense of said nation.

Also, ten cargo ships full of brownies are heading for Tremalkier, because we have too many. :D

OOC: Quanto, you don't have a space fleet. Well, you might have a few little shuttles. but you are far too small to even begin to support space operations.

IC:
The Naval Federation of Kelanis condemns Grays Hill's assault on the sovereign nation of Swords of Chagal, and has vowed to aid in the defense of said nation.

Also, ten cargo ships full of brownies are heading for Tremalkier, because we have too many. :D

ooc:
is my post so wonderful you just can't help but quote it?

No, i was trying to add something on the end of it, but all that got submitted was that quote. My computer was messing up.

What I was typing on the end was:

He is not a soverign nation. He is a terrorist organization and he tried to have my president killed. That is why I bombed him.

He is not a soverign nation. He is a terrorist organization and he tried to have my president killed. That is why I bombed him.

OOC: But that would require you to know where he is... you can't just bomb where you think he is without actually looking into it and you bombed a place where you thought he representative would be, I have asked him to tell me the casualities and where it has taken place, because a terrorist organisation is not a normal geographical nation.

IC, this has happened: You hear some guy say his organisation did it, you bomb location of guy, location of guy is not where the terrorists live, because no-one is that stupid, so you bombed a load of civilians to kill one guys, who has probably left.

No, i was trying to add something on the end of it, but all that got submitted was that quote. My computer was messing up.

What I was typing on the end was:

He is not a soverign nation. He is a terrorist organization and he tried to have my president killed. That is why I bombed him.

I highly doubt he's comprised entirely of terrorist cells.

OOC:
Iuthia,I have about...3 million in my organization.Is that too much?

Don't worry,I'll never say I got in his nation and recruited from there, I'm not THAT stupid :roll: ( :wink: )

I have a freind who'd be willing to RP the attack.He'll be on shortly.
And ONE last thing:I never claimed responsibility for the attack. :roll:
As for biologicl weapons,check relevant thread about it.I won't be producing anything more than frag grenades and ak
47's for the next 5 years(And I have a september nation who is secretly funding me.I'll tell you over t-gram if you want to know)

IC:
First Commander John Doe paced about his office on Mars.Grays Hill would be tough to crack,but not impossible.They wouldn't be able to insert anyone,but they WOULD be able to annoy Grays Hill until the breaking point.Sniping...Hit 'n' run RPG attacks...Nerve gas canisters...

OOC: Who did you just shoot??

IC: All soldiers have been instructed to wear a gas mask at all times. Civilians have the option to buy them, like most have.

Grays Hills if you wish we can help take down the terrorist on mars. We have some bases up there.

We are uploading pictures that we have of the terrorist leaders, which is not many, to our SG-1 pilots so they will kepp a look out for these terrorist leaders.

Your declaration is without adequate proof. So therefore, Wengard's efforts in this matter will be used to support The Swords of Chaqal should unneccesary bloodshed come to pass.

there is considerable proof in the thread that he gave a link to.


The KTC(Kwaswhakistanni Terror Control) will be happy to license out its troops, weapons, air craft and ships. We have great expertise in terrorist defense and destruction. Tell us what u need and we will give you the price.

There is considerable proof in the thread that he gave a link to.Our inteligence networks say otherwise, from what we can tell they bombed a nation where a single operative made a statement concerning their rogue operatives... while this in it self shows that a sinlge terrorist may have been killed in the attack, however the human losses surrounding the attempt to kill that men were great...


Whats more we have seen no evidence to support that the terrorist organisation is working with the nation that was bombed nor proof that the civilans that have died are themselves terrorists...

Greys Hill just bombed a village in the hope of killing one man, that is not acceptable and as such we will be protecting this nation from further irrational aggression, should you wish to do some more damage to this nation you will have to get through Iuthian Forces, who are setting up a AA defence around civilian areas as we speak.

Thanks,

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Grays Hills if you wish we can help take down the terrorist on mars. We have some bases up there.

We are uploading pictures that we have of the terrorist leaders, which is not many, to our SG-1 pilots so they will kepp a look out for these terrorist leaders.

OOC: Did you IC find out the leaders of his terrorist organisation or are you calling damages as I suspect you are. If you haven't actually done anything to find out his leaders (by RPing it with him) then I would say IC that you are making up this intel and it is incorrect.

hey i only contract my units, i dont care where they go or why stuff happens, as long as im paid and they survive.

Grays Hills if you wish we can help take down the terrorist on mars. We have some bases up there.

We are uploading pictures that we have of the terrorist leaders, which is not many, to our SG-1 pilots so they will kepp a look out for these terrorist leaders.

OOC: Did you IC find out the leaders of his terrorist organisation or are you calling damages as I suspect you are. If you haven't actually done anything to find out his leaders (by RPing it with him) then I would say IC that you are making up this intel and it is incorrect.
OOC:We only have a fraction of documention of his leaders and most of the ones we know about we don't have a picture but yes if you are asking if we have intelegence working on the matter then yes, We also have couple spys.

OOC:
Iuthia,I have about...3 million in my organization.Is that too much?

OOC: Yes, I would say it is too much, you only have one nation that you have claimed to be supporting you. You haven't mentioned any nations that don't IC support you but have OOC agreed to have you in their nation against their IC will (for example, you're in there and their government is trying to catch you, or don't know about you).

So that would mean you have to generate 3 million people from his nation to join your cause, then support them with hand outs from one nations asistance.

Now if most nations can't afford to have 3 million people in their army, what chance do you have of funding and arming 3 million people? Remember you resources are limited. So say that you have 300'000 men and then when you loose some a few more (but only about 50% of what you lost) join in anger... thus it is like having more then you actually have...

If innocents are killed, count them as well. If 100 innocents are killed by your enemies in a nation you are based in then you get 50 recruits in grief... however never go beyond 300'000... just replenish your organisation with the grief and anger of the people who are hurt by your enemies...

Think about it, you can't support loads of guys... but you will have alot of sympathisers providing you have a cause... an easy cause is if you are against capitalism.

The fun is that the more dumb ideas of bombing nations to get at you the more people you can get back when they die... keeping the organisation at a constant level.

However, each new member is not well trained and needs time to become a veteran... they will start off small and then work their way up. So think of only 10% of your organisation as good enough to bomb... the rest cause decent, trouble and can use a gun like a conscipt... not a soldier.

You will need camps or something like it if you want to have people who can use guns like conscipts and these camps are easier to find then your terrorist cells, who are constantly moving and hiding as they plot.

You get the idea, you will need to think realistically if you want my OOC support to make sure people find you with good RP, I can't keep helping you if you don't RP this well yourself.

OOC:We only have a fraction of documention of his leaders and most of the ones we know about we don't have a picture but yes if you are asking if we have intelegence working on the matter then yes, We also have couple spys.

OOC: I asked if you had Role Played it, not just claimed to know about it... if you want to have decent intelience you have to get the information by Role Playing your spys with Swords of Chagal who will give you the information (OOC but repesenting your work IC)... if you just claim to know without RPing it with the terrorist player then you will not have any real IC information, only the crap you say you know.


SOC, I will need to get a report from the nation bombed earlier, you said you had someone for it and I need to RP looking for you in his nation while I protect them.

OOC:Here I am.Sorry for the delay.

IC:
Statement released by Department of Defense:

[code:1:6e17d1b862]>>>
We are outraged upon this attack on out civilians!Killing our people to catch ONE measly terrorist,who was only a representative!Because of this,we declare a state of hostility against Grays Hill,economic embargo,and severation of all current and possible future ties!

Our Destroyer Class[i]Beast[/i] has taken up position over our Earth colony -- as our homeworld is a different planet -- to protect of any possible attacks against our people.May the gods be with you if you decide to attack us,Gray pigs!
>>>[/code:1:6e17d1b862]

OOC: Nano soft,I am from this moment on IGNORING you,unless you recall the statement that you have information about my leaders.That is,according all normal roleplayers, "GODMODDING"! So either recall it,or face...IGNORATION! :shock:

And Grays Hill,NM the post of the sniper.

EDIT:Why did you suddenly instruct your soldiers to wear gas masks?You don't have any spies in my base on Mars...

Seran is outraged by the attack on a village just to assassinate one terrorist, and from now on pledge support to the swords of chagal, and will move troops in when needed.

Seran is outraged by the attack on a village just to assassinate one terrorist, and from now on pledge support to the swords of chagal, and will move troops in when needed.

OOC: They are not the nation that got attacked, they are the terrorist organisation that were claimed to have been in the nation that has been bombed (but has not been named). If they were in the nation and it could be proven that the bombing was only against SOC I wouldn't have a problem, only the evidence suggests that civilians of said nation have been bombed to get at ONE representative of SOC.

OCC:Is this beter?

Secret IC:
President William Fox:I want AA defences set up around SOC, just incase the idiots try to bomb civilans agin. Also try to get some gold elites (My special forces)inside Grays Hill. You might have to wait for security to let up though.
Secretary of defence:Yes sir.

Secret IC:
President William Fox:We must support our terrorist brothers! I want the cells in Grays Hills to be ready for attack.
General Fook:Yes sir!

OOC:He's going to ignore you... don't you people read, you can't just claim to be in his nation, you have to work with him OOC or his nation has to be open to tourists, seeing as neither has happened you cannot claim terrorist cells in his nation. So change your post you be ignored.

OOC: As far as everyone knows, nobody died in that attack, because Swords of Chaqal never posted any losses. So at the moment, nobody has died.

IC:
**The President has returned to Grays Hill to make a speach**

His plane landed. He was surrounded by men, and covered. He was hurried into a building with just him, his Secret Service, and a microphone. The speach was to be broadcasted to all nations. It is on the radio and television. He had this to say:

"I am glad to know that all you nations are supporting terrorist. SoC is a terrorist organisation. And you are for his cause, that means you are against me, and for Terrorism. I call to all nations to help rid the world of Terrorism. I call upon all nations to support me in this war, and other wars against terrorism."

With that he left, and boarded his plane, and he was flown to a secret location. He then left that plane, and several look alikes all got on different planes. That way he couldnt be tracked.

Dictator Sean would like to say how much it supports Grays Hill. He had every right to bomb that neighbor hood. It showed SOC that noone in his terrorist organization was safe. It showed SOC that he wasnt playing. It showed the world Grays Hill's intent to rid the world of terrorism. I pledge full support for Grays Hill. It may not have been right to kill all the civilians, but they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and thats what they get for living within the boundries of a terrorist organization, such as SOC.

We thank you for your support. We wish that all nations would be as understanding as Dictator Sean.

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You call this understanding? That it was the fault of innocent people? That because they chose to live there, it's just too damned bad?

So, if you chose to live in a nice, quiet countryside with someone there, and later on a terrorist moves in and you don't know it, it's your fault when you get blown up? I don't think so.

Kelanis condemns both Grays Hill and Dictator Sean for condoning this ridiculous theorem.

If you live somewhere and terrorist move in, you would move. And he is a terrorist organization, so I stopped potential new members from joining. Think of it that way, I was stopping terrorism. Oh btw, like i said before, so far no one has died, because he hasnt posted any losses.

It wasnt in his country. You bombed an area full of innocent civilans to get one terrorist. In my eyes that is terrorism. So it was the childrens fualt that they "decided" to live in that neighborhood?

I emphasize that no one has died. No losses were posted. There for, no body has died.

We will stand by and watch the evils of the world attack our friends and win.

The delegate for The Yayo Empire tightened his tight. The blue curtain was the entrance way into a wave of media and truth. He looked at the secret servicemen around him making sure everything was going acordding to plan. A man walked up to him with a clipboard and tapped him on the shoulder.

"Sir, it's time"

It was time to tell the world. He took a deep breath and pushed aside the curtain, opening to a wave of camera flashes and small talk throughout the room. He walked to his left and approached the wood podium with the Diminix flag waving high behind it.

"Ladies and gentlemen, as you all now, two days ago Grays Hill was engaged in a war against terrorism and against the Swords of Chaqaul. Following the declaration, swarms of pro terrorist groups and governments have claimed to support the terrorism that Swords of Chaqual put out to other nations. They were praising their works. Well it is time for us to return the favor to those governments and organizations. The Yayo Empire and all it's might have declared our support for Grays Hill. I will now be taking your questions"

All the reporters in the room jumped up with their microphones trying to ask the delegate a question. He pointed to one.

"Sir, will the Yayo Empire support Grays Hill militarily against the War on Terror?" -Reporter

"Heh, well. Most of you know the troubles The Yayo Empire has gone through with terrorism and therefore we have been engaged in the war on terror for more than twenty years. Hunting down extremists and evil doers. But there will always be one or two idiots who decide to come back and start up more trouble. My point is that we cannot support them at this time militarily, being engaged in our own battles. But we will do as much as we can logistically to support Gray forces in the battlefields."

"Is there any report if the "supporters" of the S.O.C will begin to attack Grays Hill?" -Reporter

"Grays Hill is our neighbor to the north. Our waters protect Grays. Therefore the only way to reach them is through our land. By declaring hostilites against Grays would only mean to have to penetrate Yayo airspace and by violating our rights will have to drag us into battle ourselves. Not to mention violating Reich airspace. Thank you."

Then the delegate waved to the crowd of reporters who were still trying to get in more questions. He simply waved them off, turned to his right and walked away back behind the curtain.

Ohh yea sorry everyone you bombed is just sitting in thier chared recliner watching there flaming TV in there ruble of a house, without a scratch.

I emphasize that no one has died. No losses were posted. There for, no body has died.

OOC: You haven't payed attention, he hasn't got a nation, he's in someone elses... that person hasn't been online to post damages but it has been agreed that you have bombed a village just to get one guy...

What would we do without or might ally Diminix. We would like to donate 2 billion dollars to The Yayo Empire. This is to cover cost incase of an attack on them, and to prepare their defenses.

IC:
**The President has returned to Grays Hill to make a speach**

His plane landed. He was surrounded by men, and covered. He was hurried into a building with just him, his Secret Service, and a microphone. The speach was to be broadcasted to all nations. It is on the radio and television. He had this to say:

"I am glad to know that all you nations are supporting terrorist. SoC is a terrorist organisation. And you are for his cause, that means you are against me, and for Terrorism. I call to all nations to help rid the world of Terrorism. I call upon all nations to support me in this war, and other wars against terrorism."

With that he left, and boarded his plane, and he was flown to a secret location. He then left that plane, and several look alikes all got on different planes. That way he couldnt be tracked.

To: the Leadership of Grays Hill
From: Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
Subject: Your Methods of Terrorist Removal
Message:

We have deployed forces in this nation [OOC: Still to post I may add, so I don't know who] to defend them from further aggression from your rather poor intelience agencies... who seem to have got it into their head that bombing the area you think one man is in will somehow rid the world of terrorists...

Your actions are dispicable and while you may view Iuthia as a supporter of Terrorism, it is in fact yourselves who are making the innocent people of the nation you just bombed turn against you and maybe even seek revenge... it is our intention to defend this nation from further attacks from yourself as well as route out the terrorists that may be in this nation using safer techniques such as quite investigation, inflitration and inteligence which isn't used to bomb the hell out of a civilian area.

If you wish to declare war against Iuthia for this reason we will simply increase our defences and destroy any vessals that enter our waters... you do not have the resources or the backing to warrent a large threat to our nation... we will not declare war against you however because we do not wish to damage your nation because of something stupid you are about to do...


However, all of this said we may come to an agreement about sharing inteligence on this organisation, should you wish to start talks with our nation and track these terrorists the civilised way... the way that doesn't get large population centres killed.


Thanks,

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Grays Hill has no reason for war with you. We arent even mad with you. And we thank you for sending troops to the area to get out the terrorist. I would very mush fancy sharing intel. one this organization with you.

OOC: Check your tg.

OOC:Uggh! THIRD PAGE,3RD OR 2ND TO LAST POST!THE COUNTRY XANTER,WITH HIS MESSAGE IN CODE!!!!!! :tantrum: :tantrum:

OOC:Here I am.Sorry for the delay.

IC:
Statement released by Department of Defense:

[code:1:d66ba3095f]>>>
We are outraged upon this attack on our civilians!Killing our people to catch ONE measly terrorist,who was only a representative!Because of this,we declare a state of hostility against Grays Hill,economic embargo,and severation of all current and possible future ties!

Our Destroyer Class[i]Beast[/i] has taken up position over our Earth colony -- as our homeworld is a different planet -- to protect of any possible attacks against our people.May the gods be with you if you decide to attack us,Gray pigs!
>>>[/code:1:d66ba3095f]

Sorry for the X2 post,but read this PLEASE!

OOC:Here I am.Sorry for the delay.

IC:
Statement released by Department of Defense:

[code:1:7035ef7598]>>>
We are outraged upon this attack on out civilians!Killing our people to catch ONE measly terrorist,who was only a representative!Because of this,we declare a state of hostility against Grays Hill,economic embargo,and severation of all current and possible future ties!

Our Destroyer Class _Beast_ has taken up position over our Earth colony -- as our homeworld is a different planet -- to protect of any possible attacks against our people.May the gods be with you if you decide to attack us,Gray pigs!
>>>[/code:1:7035ef7598]

OOC: Oh sh*t, sorry Xanter, I missed it the first time and the second time, we've deployed defences to assist against further agression within your nation, we've also started an investigation into terrorism in your nation, should you wish neither of these to take place please tell me.

Meanwhile could you post damages of civilian lifes.


SOC, could you tell me OOC if it is worth searching for your guys here, I'm using quiet methods of searching, using our defence of Xanter as a cover for our operations, we will not be using uniforms for the search, but instead trained undercover operatives searching the market places for recruitment and the such. They have been made to look like the populace of the Xanter population.

Could you also post damages if you actually did loose someone in the bombing, you may or may not have... it's up to you, but it may look good if you lost one guy. If you have no operations or cells in Xanter then you don't have to have anyone died.

Could you also TM me to give me details of which nations are supporting you so I know which nations you actually have full facilities in and not just undercover people. All of this is OOC because I have to investigate to find the IC information and you have to allow me to find information if I actually come close to finding out IC.

((This is da funniest thread I've seen so far today))

Yup... but I guess if we can't have a laugh then we are taking it all too seriously... not that I can have a go at anyone for taking things seriously...

Well I officially, seriously, support Grays Hill. ;)

Oddly enough... so does Iuthia...

After all this you support him? lol

That was OOC chatting,just arguing and stuff.And this IS a funny thread,war or no war :wink:

Oh,BTW,Iuthia,my representative was killed in the bombing,if you wanna know.

Although i don't knw where my friend is...He lives in australia, so we don't get in touch too often...

After all this you support him? lol

OOC: Didn't you read? I'm working with him to capture the terrorists, I'm just not happy with the way he did it.

Not fully I was just breezing through since 90% was a bunch of bullshit lol

Boogaboo,you're the "owner" of Diminix,right?

the grand nog would like to fifteen of his rottweiller units to aid you in your war. these units are available now and if of interest we are now offering to train your soldiers in the handling of the creatures in a war scenario each unit can be trained for $30,000. :twisted:

the grand nog would like to fifteen of his rottweiller units to aid you in your war. these units are available now and if of interest we are now offering to train your soldiers in the handling of the creatures in a war scenario each unit can be trained and kitted out for $30,000. :twisted:

Grays Hill thanks all the nations for their support. We WILL find and stop the terrorist from opperating.

GREAT! AND HOW MANY BASES HAVE YOU FOUND? :D................ :lol:

Im not the one searching for them, so dont ask me :lol: Someone else is.

Boogaboo,you're the "owner" of Diminix,right?

No..Diminix is the owner of Boogaboo. :P

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