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Everything a Nwebie(new person) needs to know to get started

Nano soft
27-12-2003, 18:34
OOC:I’m getting pissed off at these one day old noobs that think they have nukes! So I’m making this but the probably just ignore it because there to lazy. But there also people who want to become good role-players but don't know anything about this game so now they can come here to find out.

IC:
There are many confusing things out there for new people for this game. Like "How do I tell how much money I have?" or "How do I wire Money?" and whole bunch of questions. So here are the answers, Lets start with money.

Money
There are multiple ways to find how much money your country has. You can ether go to a web site or do it your self. Personally I don't have time to do it my self plus I don't remember the formula for doing it so I use the web site.

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Nano%20soft&defenseprovided=1&defense=15&militarybudget=15

For you to go there you just change one thing. Where it says "nation=Nano%20soft&..." you want to replace the part that says "Nano%20soft" with your countries name(you don't need to put in the "20% if you have a space in your name, it is just something the web site does), after you are done with that you should know how to click "enter" or the button "Go". Then it come up with something like this:

Nano soft Gross Domestic Product


Population: 889,000,000
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,000
GDP: $17,780,000,000,000
National Budget: $5,991,788,880,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.05%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $898,768,332,000
Enough for:
28,899 F-15Es, or...
44,938 Su-34s, or...
47,806 F-16s, or...
81,706 MiG 29s, or...
209,015 M1A2 Abrams, or...
299,589 T-90s, or...
1,533,734,354 M-16s, or...
2,995,894,440 AK47s

But it will have your name at the top instead of mine, also your own numbers. You should just kind of ignore the "Enough for:" part because people have different prices here then the real world.

Buying/wiring:
There are many stores on Nation States that you can buy Military units. You always want to make sure you get a good deal on something, like you don't want to by a Nimitz aircraft carrier for four billion when you can get for 1.2 or 1.4(cant remember exactly) billion dollars. As I was saying there are many stores out there and many Corporations just waiting to get there hands on your money. So you don't want to fall spell to them, you want to look for the best deal of a product you want then when you think you found it then take it. After you found it you want to make an order, something like this


The Free Corporation of Nano Soft wises to order these units,
12 x M1A1's four million = 48 million

Money will be wired on confirmation of order
Yeah it should look something like that.

But you always want to make sure that your purchase is never over your military budget.

Military budget:
Many people just see there big military budget and think they can use it all on a speeding spree. Well they are wrong, only a tiny fraction of it you can use to buy stuff. That’s because you have to use the money for other things like feeding your troops, maintaining your tanks and aircraft, and Ext...
The money isn't for your leader to use it all at once, you need it for others thing because if you did use it all at once then your military would collapse and you would be highly venerable to an attack. So only use a small fraction of your military budget.

Military
Nuclear weapons:
Many noobs just come out when there one day old and say there declaring war with ever one and that they will nuke them. For a nuclear weapon you should have a population of 75-150 million, if you don't want to be called a godmoder then you should wait until population of 150 million to post a R&D(explain later) thread. See you have to wait because you cant just appear with nukes, you have to research them.

Military %%:
Many people do not know what is a good percentage to have in there military. For one I saw this nation sending five million troops to support a country, and the country was allot smaller than me. IN times of peace you should use a low percentage, in times of peace I use 0.5% or sometimes lower, in times of war I use 1% and if dire need sometimes above but I had never had to. But you shouldn't go really above even 6-7%. Well that what I think, there not that many countries with a 6-7% military in the RL world.
OOC:Im forget a little but I think North Korea has a high percentage if I am not mistaken?
IC:
Researching:
When you research something you should get into the habit of making a "R&D" thread, That stand for Research and Development thread. If you make one of these then most likely no one should be able to call you a godmoder. Also it will allow older nations to give you some pointers on it so you can improve it so its less like godmoding.

Time scale
I use 2 days = one nation states year, some people use one day = one year and others 24 days = one year. But I think the best is two days = one year that is because you have over a million people who come into your country, so it doesn't make sense to have one real life day = on nation states year because a million or so people are not going to come into your nation in one month of a half.

Some Rp pointers
Say when you are having a war, you don't want to godmod do you? So here are some basic steps for a war.
If you are declaring war:
1. Declare war
2. Wait for a post from your enemy
3.say when they leave
4.post when your units leave
5.wait for a post from your enemy
6.Post the start of your attack
7.wait for the enemies defense post
8.Keep on attacking
9.wait for defense post
And so one like this. You also have to keep in mind that when you are attacking some one you are not right next to them. So you have to supply your troops from home so you should bring supplies when you go. But also keep in mind the defender always has the upper hand, he knows his nation inside and out, he has supplies on the spot, he knows where to go and hide and when to attack causing an ambush.

Definitions:
Noob: Bad role player, godmoder, idiot, moron, ext...
Newbie: New player
Flamming: Insualting or spaming another player of nation States.
Ignore cannon(or what ever you call it): Used by player to declare that they are ignoring a certain player for certain reasons.

(I believe those are pretty acurate)

Some good Rp helping threads and others:
FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97767

NationStates Role Play and Ignoring (Edited):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79117

FYI: What Godmoding Is
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15957

Some good Stores:
Aircraft:

Naval Ships:
Unum Veritas Naval store:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41303

Land units:

Arms:
Nano Soft arms storefront:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106771&start=0
Space craft:
Klonor Ship store:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081

More stores will be added but I have to go now.

PLease ask questions if you have any. Also older nations or people who have suggestions please tell me.

UN Delegate of Corporate Islands
John Lunny soon to retire from president
Hugoland
27-12-2003, 18:49
Very good, this will problably help the newbies.
I congratulate you for the work.
Layarteb
27-12-2003, 18:49
just one minor correction.
n00b is not a new person it is a total moron-idiot who doesn't know their head from their ass.

newb (or newbie) is a new person.
Holy panooly
27-12-2003, 18:58
can someone sticky that?
Independant Pluto
27-12-2003, 19:04
No sticky! Put it in the New to NS Sticky!
TROUSRS
27-12-2003, 19:08
OOC:

Well I'm so tired of little know-it-all's that think that there are rules in a free form role play forum.. I'm also tired of having to repeat this three times a week for each new "noob's do this" guides.

Free form forums have no rules regarding role play. There are, however, guidlines (5% of pop in military, no nukes if you're young etc) that can be followed, but are in no way enforceable.

-Brandon
27-12-2003, 19:11
thanks for the info

i wanted to know how 2 RP but there was no way to realy find out so thanx
27-12-2003, 19:13
N00bs are bad roleplayers.
Newbies are new nations.
Not all newbies are n00bs and not all n00bs are newbies.
Get your terms right.
TROUSRS
27-12-2003, 19:15
just one minor correction.
n00b is not a new person it is a total moron-idiot who doesn't know their head from their ass.

newb (or newbie) is a new person.

Thank you:

Noob: Worthless boob that takes pleasure in bothering and harrasing others; one that spams, and flames just for the fun of it. (Doesn't have to be a new user)

Newbie: A new user, usually one interested in learing what's going on.
Archaic Slang Words
27-12-2003, 19:20
Wow, then I'm unique... lol. What would you consider an older nation that decides to sell themselves off to be a newbie again? Newbius Revivicus! :P
TROUSRS
27-12-2003, 19:22
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.
Archaic Slang Words
27-12-2003, 19:26
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.

Yup, not to mention I made a few decisions I didn't like. I mean, I loved being a fascist state back in Pergatorio, but to be frank, SPACE RP'S ARE BORING AS ALL HELL!!! They all act like they're above conflict... And an 800 mil pop to boot doesn't make it fun.
TROUSRS
27-12-2003, 19:27
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.

Yup, not to mention I made a few decisions I didn't like. I mean, I loved being a fascist state back in Pergatorio, but to be frank, SPACE RP'S ARE BORING AS ALL HELL!!! They all act like they're above conflict... And an 800 mil pop to boot doesn't make it fun.

Space does suck. Never left earth.

My newest nation in Federation Airspace :)
Archaic Slang Words
27-12-2003, 19:29
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.

Yup, not to mention I made a few decisions I didn't like. I mean, I loved being a fascist state back in Pergatorio, but to be frank, SPACE RP'S ARE BORING AS ALL HELL!!! They all act like they're above conflict... And an 800 mil pop to boot doesn't make it fun.

Space does suck. Never left earth.

My newest nation in Federation Airspace :)

Glad to see I'm not alone... good ol' modern day is where the action is... and I think I solved a way to fix the modern day fighting blues: get a bunch of newbies to gang up on you (not n00bs, newbies!).
27-12-2003, 19:34
OOC: Not OFFICIALLY enforcable, but enforcable by the other players in the sense that godmodders can just be ignored. Kind of hard to RP when no one else is even recognizing your existence.
27-12-2003, 19:52
Newbie here :shock: By reading the stickies, using the search & just generaly paying attention I think Ive got most of the forum posting regs down. Now I see this thread. Looks like a cool Q&A 8)
So onto the question that just popped in. Lets say Im an Armed Republic with a big arms manufacturing industry & heavy military spending. Do I need to buy weapons or is this a case where Id go IC, In Charecter :wink: , & announce an R&D, Research & Development, plan stating that Ive made my own weapons? Yes, I agree that a new nation shouldnt just bust on the scene with nukes. But what if, just a what if, an older nation were to give nukes to a new nation? Also whats the RP, Roll Playing, progression of weapons developement if I R&D my own? I dont have to start with wooden cannons & gun cotton do I? I mean Ive had 'issues' that involved survailence cameras & automobiles, so if Ive got them a remote visualy guided missle isnt a far leap at all.
Ill be just watching for awhile before I get into all the RP
Thanks for the time & the thread. Oh for that link to see my military budget too. :D
Nano soft
28-12-2003, 03:23
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.
No one fears me really, not even two dec. 2003 nations who thought they could invade me and get away with it. :roll:

Happy I got my stupid terms right! :x
28-12-2003, 05:33
I liked it better when I was new, always conflict. Now people fear me.. :(

Thats why I make new nations every week-month to RP on. I like it.
No one fears me really, not even two dec. 2003 nations who thought they could invade me and get away with it. :roll:

Happy I got my stupid terms right! :x


...

I just thought that quote was HILARIOUS. xD
28-12-2003, 06:04
Okay, but sometimes people report losing 10 million people. How do you lose them. Answer this and I graduate n00b school!!! :D :D :D :D :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Nano soft
29-12-2003, 02:12
Okay, but sometimes people report losing 10 million people. How do you lose them. Answer this and I graduate n00b school!!! :D :D :D :D :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
There many ways you can loose 10 million people, but it would be pretty dang hard.

But I don't get what your trying to get at here. :?
Iuthia
29-12-2003, 02:30
No one fears me really, not even two dec. 2003 nations who thought they could invade me and get away with it. :roll:

Happy I got my stupid terms right! :x

They don't need to fear you, they outclassed your RP style, if it wasn't for the fact they drum rolled war I would agree with their ignore, you didn't respond very well and instead of being sensible and using your superiour numbers and technology you had to resort to crappy "I use my satalite weapons"...

So I think people don't fear you because you can't seem to grasp your advantages and the basics of diplomacy, afterall launching ICMB's is a good way to get nuked.
Nano soft
29-12-2003, 04:19
No one fears me really, not even two dec. 2003 nations who thought they could invade me and get away with it. :roll:

Happy I got my stupid terms right! :x

They don't need to fear you, they outclassed your RP style, if it wasn't for the fact they drum rolled war I would agree with their ignore, you didn't respond very well and instead of being sensible and using your superiour numbers and technology you had to resort to crappy "I use my satalite weapons"...

So I think people don't fear you because you can't seem to grasp your advantages and the basics of diplomacy, afterall launching ICMB's is a good way to get nuked.
First of all I believe ICBMs are land based missiles. :roll: And secound having satalites to fire missiles isn't that much future tech. Nations would probally do it in RL now if it didn't effect there realations with other countries. Like say U.S.A. did it today, Russia would probally break off all realations thinking it is a major threat to them.

Also one more thing.....NO SPAM! Raed the title Iuthia, "Everything a Newbie needs to know to get started!". So please ethier make a sugestion, ask a question or something of that matter ok. Do you understand me? :roll:
29-12-2003, 04:21
No. The title says "Nwebie." You should read it, Nano soft.
Nano soft
29-12-2003, 04:33
No. The title says "Nwebie." You should read it, Nano soft.
Ahh whatever! Do I care if I put put two letters in the wrong place of a term that only exist on nation states or on the internet? No! Big deal!
Iuthia
29-12-2003, 04:36
First of all I believe ICBMs are land based missiles. And secound having satalites to fire missiles isn't that much future tech. Nations would probally do it in RL now if it didn't effect there realations with other countries.

Hm... no, seeing as ICMB's were the terms you used for them when you used them (the first time, I was refering to your first attack which caused the war) and your satalite missiles I have no problem with their existance, only that you shouldn't use them because you didn't need to.

Also one more thing.....NO SPAM! Read the title Iuthia, "Everything a Newbie needs to know to get started!". So please ethier make a suggestion, ask a question or something of that matter ok. Do you understand me?

No, spam is pointless crap... I was simply pointing out that these nations are not the normal n00bs and were in fact "newbies". They did alot better then you, they just missed out the fact they should wait for you to reply when they attack.

I understand you but I think you should actually read into some of the other advise that new players need, because you still don't get some things.
Credonia
29-12-2003, 04:37
Credonia's storefront has a decent selection of aircraft (more to be added in a few hours) if you want to post the link. http://www.geocities.com/credonia
Nano soft
29-12-2003, 04:44
OOC:I had no problem with C R but Cummunist was the biggest godmoder. Come on, he sent a bomber to my nation and attacked my deffence system and went away in one post! That I call huge godmoding. Now please Iuthia stop posting about that subject, if you want to talk about it the TG me but not here.