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I have launched a new space weaponary programme which means that i can wipe out areas in Nation States. This will not mean that i will go "crazy" and go and destroy everything but this gives us a new area to understand more about this. I will be selling my new SOWMD(Space Orbital Weaponary of Mass Destruction) in the new year and if you are interested then tell me and i will be glad to send a dossier of information on the weapons ASAP. Many Thanks.
The Royal Highness of Hallals defence secretary,
Admiral of the Fleet Sir John Hartly, DSEH, MOD, UNPK (OBE, Oxford)

*snorts*

You can have that weapon all oyu want. I won't ever RP with anyone who has it though ;)

Im asking if you agree with it, the research i mean?

If it can be used more than once, then I disagree with it and you'll stop researching it or I'll stop for you.

If it can only be used once, then I say "meh".

If it can be used more than once, then I disagree with it and you'll stop researching it or I'll stop for you.

If it can only be used once, then I say "meh".
You will not stop me USING IT and i never said anything about using it i will only use it on deserted areas in my nation for military research and it isn't going to be fully operational for 5 years. Even then i will need to be given the consent of 4 Key regional Delegates and mods.

Rephrasing - if you use it against someone (don't mind it in deserted areas, for research) THEN I'll stop it.

Can we get SIRF in here please.

Can we get SIRF in here please.

Can we get what in?

Rephrasing - if you use it against someone (don't mind it in deserted areas, for research) THEN I'll stop it.
NONONONO I wont be using it as a weapon yet.

I forgot the full name... wait a sec.

Can we get SIRF in here please.

You know, one of these days I really should copy that thing down.

Rephrasing - if you use it against someone (don't mind it in deserted areas, for research) THEN I'll stop it.
NONONONO I wont be using it as a weapon yet.

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Standardized Idiot Reply Form. It applies here. You'll see and understand if it gets here. I'd like to get it copied to. It'd be really useful in situations like these.

Standardized Idiot Reply Form. It applies here. You'll see and understand if it gets here.
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is nothing to do with this and this is bringing in a totally new type of warfare and it is extremely complicated so will take a long time to research fully.

You know that thing would have no use against ships, and that the lightest fighter could obliterate it, right?

Its only a good idea for me to reshearch. :twisted: :twisted:




I'm not evil just twisted :twisted:

Standardized Idiot Reply Form. It applies here. You'll see and understand if it gets here.
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is nothing to do with this and this is bringing in a totally new type of warfare and it is extremely complicated so will take a long time to research fully.

Yes it will take a long time to research, an extremely long time, especially for such a new nation.

Hallal, SIRF is not warfare, it's... never mind, you'll see. And Pwinca, if you want to copy it it's under the "HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thing near the bottom of the page.

You know that thing would have no use against ships, and that the lightest fighter could obliterate it, right?
Oh no ship would have the equiptment to be able too................actually its top secretish at the moment to a certain extent but i will keep you posted on what i can and cant mention. Sorry about that.

No ship would be able to destroy it you're saying?

Want to try that theory out against me when it's finished?

We all know top secret is code for " Oh crap I didn't think about that part yet. i'll have to go back to the drawing board and elaborate about my stupid idea."

You know that thing would have no use against ships, and that the lightest fighter could obliterate it, right?
Oh no ship would have the equiptment to be able too................actually its top secretish at the moment to a certain extent but i will keep you posted on what i can and cant mention. Sorry about that.

Oooh, I sense a spot of GODMODDING coming on here! :shock:

You know that thing would have no use against ships, and that the lightest fighter could obliterate it, right?
Oh no ship would have the equiptment to be able too................actually its top secretish at the moment to a certain extent but i will keep you posted on what i can and cant mention. Sorry about that.

Oooh, I sense a spot of GODMODDING coming on here! :shock:
Im not Godmodding and im not really supposed to say too much about this YET but i just want to know if people think its a good idea and not how stupid or whatever insulting things that you think about it!!!!

I can afford to do this so i will and if it doesnt suceed then at least i tried!?!?!?!?

Yes, you are.
You said that no ship will be able to destroy it.

I have 5 letters to say to you:

I. D. D. Q. D.

I AM NOT GOD MODDING AND I HAVE A FEW MORE LETTERS THAT I COULD SAY TO YOU. Im not trying to cause the next world threat so why cant we just talk about this in a civilised way????

Hallal, I reccomend that you go meet the rogue nation of TYG. He and you think along the same lines as in, " Hmmm... I think I'll try to do something way over my brainless head and get laughed at for it!"

Okay, let's talk civilized.

Did you, or did you not, say that no ship would be able to destroy it?

I THINK IM SMARTER THAN YOU MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO GET A ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, let's talk civilized.

Did you, or did you not, say that no ship would be able to destroy it?
i DID NOT SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY!!!!!!!!

Answer the question, counselor.

You know that thing would have no use against ships, and that the lightest fighter could obliterate it, right?
Oh no ship would have the equiptment to be able too................actually its top secretish at the moment to a certain extent but i will keep you posted on what i can and cant mention. Sorry about that.

Then please explain the bolded part.

So are we talking bout a FOBS, right? Or what exactly? We can't tell you if it's any good unless we know more. How does it work? Oh, and being able to destroy entire regions will be looked on as godmodding. possibly because it very much is. There is no weapon on earth that could do this, you know. And if you are building a FOBS, you're too new. It's too advanced.
NOTE TO OTHERS: I am not rejecting this out of hand, because, well, I've heard of similar things in the real world. Like a FOBS. So maybe this guy wants to create a new and improved weapon system. Let him try, as long as it's not godmoddish.
EDIT: In the time it took to write this, things in this thread have degenerated to a.. 'civilized' level. Maybe this wasn't such a good idea. Oh, and to destroy a satellite, a ship would need something in the order of a MRBM (in range at least, seeing as it needs to go vertically not ballistically) to hit a satellite. It's possible, but much more economical to make smaller missiles and fire them off a fighter (see 'Red Strom Rising' by Tom Clancy for a bit more on this, or search for ASAT (anti-satellite) on the web).

Ok, maybe you are not intentionally godmodding, but to most NS players you will be if you go ahead with this yet. Most nations wait a few months before they even begin to talk about orbital weaponry. You may have had the orbital weaponry issue (i'm guessing here), but the idea of a nation born less than 1 month ago having such weaponry will be widely ignored on NS. Also, your claims that no ship will be able to destroy it suggest that it is a godmod of some sort, as if you are creating the next Death Star or something (yeah, it was destroyed but you know what I mean). Most of the big nations won't even acknowledge this development of yours, let alone allow it to be RPed at all in any military situation you may become involved in.

So are we talking bout a FOBS, right? Or what exactly? We can't tell you if it's any good unless we know more. How does it work? Oh, and being able to destroy entire regions will be looked on as godmodding. possibly because it very much is. There is no weapon on earth that could do this, you know. And if you are building a FOBS, you're too new. It's too advanced.
NOTE TO OTHERS: I am not rejecting this out of hand, because, well, I've heard of similar things in the real world. Like a FOBS. So maybe this guy wants to create a new and improved weapon system. Let him try, as long as it's not godmoddish.
I NEVER SAID IT COULD DESTROY ENTIRE NATIONS DUMB ARSE SO DONT TAKE THE PISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Answer my earlier question.
2. You said it could wipe out "areas". Areas covers a big, uhm, area.

I have launched a new space weaponary programme which means that i can wipe out areas in Nation States. This will not mean that i will go "crazy" and go and destroy everything but this gives us a new area to understand more about this. I will be selling my new SOWMD(Space Orbital Weaponary of Mass Destruction) in the new year and if you are interested then tell me and i will be glad to send a dossier of information on the weapons ASAP. Many Thanks.
The Royal Highness of Hallals defence secretary,
Admiral of the Fleet Sir John Hartly, DSEH, MOD, UNPK (OBE, Oxford)

Maybe the bolded part does not exactly say you can wipe out entire nations, but it is IMPLIED from the part about 'areas of NationStates.'

I'm down. I have, I mean I don't have, them.

This reminds me of the good old days were large and evil nations used to give new one W.M.D's and watch them go crazy :twisted:

I have launched a new space weaponary programme which means that i can wipe out areas in Nation States. This will not mean that i will go "crazy" and go and destroy everything but this gives us a new area to understand more about this. I will be selling my new SOWMD(Space Orbital Weaponary of Mass Destruction) in the new year and if you are interested then tell me and i will be glad to send a dossier of information on the weapons ASAP. Many Thanks.
The Royal Highness of Hallals defence secretary,
Admiral of the Fleet Sir John Hartly, DSEH, MOD, UNPK (OBE, Oxford)

Maybe the bolded part does not exactly say you can wipe out entire nations, but it is IMPLIED from the part about 'areas of NationStates.'
By areas i mean an area of a nation but thats all im going to say for the moment. Listen, i cant say much at the moment so when i can say more i will let you all know, ok? Thanks for your interest anyway.

You still haven't answered the "No ship has the equipment" part.

My last post has said it all and i will, as time goes by, let you know. For any other enquiries then telegram me.

Hallal, from what you posted originally, it seemed like you were trying to destroy entire regions. I misread. I would apologise, but you said, and I quote:
I NEVER SAID IT COULD DESTROY ENTIRE NATIONS DUMB ARSE SO DONT TAKE THE PISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And this to a nation that was actually being nicer to you than the rest. Good way to win an argument, attack the people who WERE at least slightly on your side. All right then, here we go. You have a population of just over 100 million. The GDP calculator says that were you to spend 10% of GDP on this project, it would be just over 100 billion. In the 1980's, the US spent $50 billion just thinking about it (i think, can't provide figures for that or anything). You could safely assume that any such project would either bankrupt your nation, be so low-key as to make no difference, or take so long to produce that it would be obsolete by the time you launched the final satellite. So, in short. You are godmodding. You cannot have this technology unless you come up with the mother-of-all-RP reasonings. Good luck to you on that one, mate :P

Hallal, from what you posted originally, it seemed like you were trying to destroy entire regions. I misread. I would apologise, but you said, and I quote:
I NEVER SAID IT COULD DESTROY ENTIRE NATIONS DUMB ARSE SO DONT TAKE THE PISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And this to a nation that was actually being nicer to you than the rest. Good way to win an argument, attack the people who WERE at least slightly on your side. All right then, here we go. You have a population of just over 100 million. The GDP calculator says that were you to spend 10% of GDP on this project, it would be just over 100 billion. In the 1980's, the US spent $50 billion just thinking about it (i think, can't provide figures for that or anything). You could safely assume that any such project would either bankrupt your nation, be so low-key as to make no difference, or take so long to produce that it would be obsolete by the time you launched the final satellite. So, in short. You are godmodding. You cannot have this technology unless you come up with the mother-of-all-RP reasonings. Good luck to you on that one, mate :P
I dont care about the US i hate the Americans. Anyway this is the beginning of an entire new research department for my nation and we will devote alot of our time to this research (enphysis on research).

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.

dipshit elimination cannon fired: 2B potatoes at Mach 30

Ah I love this cannon. That was to Hallal. This way I stop myself from getting into this thread and getting in trouble.

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.
My opinion and some prat American isn't gonna change it!!!!!! Who won battle of Britain though and that was what really stopped the Nazis from taking complete control but yes i will say that the Americans helped in WW2 but DID NOT DO EVERYTHING!!!!

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.
My opinion and some prat American isn't gonna change it!!!!!! Who won battle of Britain though and that was what really stopped the Nazis from taking complete control but yes i will say that the Americans helped in WW2 but DID NOT DO EVERYTHING!!!!

Yes, let's not discount the mighty Canadians! :D

(NB: This is Kalmykhia, just logged in as a different nation)
1. No-one nation one the second world war on its own. The efforts of the Allies, and the blunders of Hitler, combined to mean they won. The British did not win the war on they're own. The Americans did not either. The British could NOT have won on their own however.
2. America-baiting seems to be a popular forum sport everywhere. It is bad. Yes, America may be being run by a moron (my personal belief), but that does not make it a bad place, or everyone there a stupid redneck.
3. We have to work from real-world examples here, we are RPing a real-world thing, so we can't say it costs three peanuts and a fish. It has to be within the bounds of reason (and also fun, but that's another thing altogether). And if you're RPing in another era\locale, it still will have its rules of what is reasonable and what is not. Ignore these, you won't be RPed with.
Now is there any chance this could get back to a discussion of this orbital weapon system and its merits\disadvantages, otr is it gonna be anothe slag-fest? Hallal, the ball is in your court now.

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.
My opinion and some prat American isn't gonna change it!!!!!! Who won battle of Britain though and that was what really stopped the Nazis from taking complete control but yes i will say that the Americans helped in WW2 but DID NOT DO EVERYTHING!!!!

Yes, let's not discount the mighty Canadians! :D
No of course not, the Canadians were a great help and i think the Canadians are great its the Americans im not keen on.

Hallal,

I offer this suggestion: have a few tinnies, get a root, and just calm down and let this one go. It's glaringly obvious that this thread can only continue its slide into the pit, as it were.

Try again another time... :wink:

Hallal,

I offer this suggestion: have a few tinnies, get a root, and just calm down and let this one go. It's glaringly obvious that this thread can only continue its slide into the pit, as it were.

Try again another time... :wink:
Yeh. ok i think your right, cheers.

Imperial Forces for years have spent mass amounts of it's military budget on Otbital Weapons research. Tests have shown that Using Satellite Platforms and REBs are the most effective way to build a orbital web over the world.

As for WMDs on Orbital weapons, one of Imperial Forces worries are that a acc missile launched from a enemy nation could successfully strike the WMD satellites and causing harmful particals from the WMD *Especially if it's nuclear* to spread over turly massive scale, that could effect billions of people worldwide, wether enemy, netural or even ally.

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.
My opinion and some prat American isn't gonna change it!!!!!! Who won battle of Britain though and that was what really stopped the Nazis from taking complete control but yes i will say that the Americans helped in WW2 but DID NOT DO EVERYTHING!!!!

No offense, but didn't that seem the teeeeensiest bit racist, a generalization, and prejudice?

I'm American so shut up :twisted: and calm down.

If you insult "the Americans" you insult me and half the other users of this site. I'm no major Bush supporter but to say you hate the entire country is simply stupid and over-generalized. There are many people who don't like the way things are run here, and many of them are Americans. And how could you hate the nation that practically saved Europe from becoming controlled by Nazis? You are an outrageously stupid person.
My opinion and some prat American isn't gonna change it!!!!!! Who won battle of Britain though and that was what really stopped the Nazis from taking complete control but yes i will say that the Americans helped in WW2 but DID NOT DO EVERYTHING!!!!

No offense, but didn't that seem the teeeeensiest bit racist, a generalization, and prejudice?

I'm American so shut up :twisted: and calm down.
You an American? Not going to listen to you!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, how mature.

Yeah, the Canadians were indeed a help. Canada is so great, because they, unlike the U.S., have learned not to interfere in the business of others. However, this "prat American" will not have a discussion with some moronic idiot who's too prejudiced to carry on simple human conversation. This conversation is no longer worth the thougt it takes to move the mouse over the link and click.

Yeah, the Canadians were indeed a help. Canada is so great, because they, unlike the U.S., have learned not to interfere in the business of others. However, this "prat American" will not have a discussion with some moronic idiot who's too prejudiced to carry on simple human conversation. This conversation is no longer worth the thougt it takes to move the mouse over the link and click.
IF YOU ARE GONNA BE LIKE THAT THEN SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the Canadians were a great help
I am literally laughing out loud right now. Thanks for making my day.

I have launched a new space weaponary programme which means that i can wipe out areas in Nation States. This will not mean that i will go "crazy" and go and destroy everything but this gives us a new area to understand more about this. I will be selling my new SOWMD(Space Orbital Weaponary of Mass Destruction) in the new year and if you are interested then tell me and i will be glad to send a dossier of information on the weapons ASAP. Many Thanks.
The Royal Highness of Hallals defence secretary,
Admiral of the Fleet Sir John Hartly, DSEH, MOD, UNPK (OBE, Oxford)

[Snippet from the Annual Spacial Defence Report]

"It is our belief that the nation of Hallal is incapable of producing orbital weaponary at it's current tech level and as such we feel that their statement reguarding SOWMD is a blatant example of propergander and as such we will ignore their future claims of space technology.

Meanwhile it is our opinion that our own defences should be prepared for satalittes that claim to be under the control of Hallal, as these could be attempts at subterfuge and we should destroy such craft entering our orbit. All other satalittes should be investigated fully under normal Free Iuthian protocol."

the Canadians were a great help
I am literally laughing out loud right now. Thanks for making my day.

OOC: Actually, I have great respect for Canadia... I mean how many nations can freely allow their people to have guns and then have hardly any deaths because of them

Most of them don't lock their doors at night like we feel we have to.

OOC: Actually, I have great respect for Canadia... I mean how many nations can freely allow their people to have guns and then have hardly any deaths because of them

Most of them don't lock their doors at night like we feel we have to.

I'm assuming you watched "Bowling for Columbine?"

I'm assuming you watched "Bowling for Columbine?"

OOC: Yeah, but I'm tired of the arrogance that their nation is better then everyone elses... I'm from England and I keep having to smack SAS fanatics after they proclaim that Englands armed services beats everyones... while they are good, other nations have other specialists who are better at their own specialities...

Err. I didn't exactly mean to turn up a patriotic debate. I was just saying that it was amusing that he suggested that Canada actually did anything in WWII.

Siosia,

On behalf of Canadian Forces personnel past and present, I would ask that you read some history that does not centre on Americans. I would also suggest that just because YOU haven't heard of what you might consider noteworthy contributions by Canadians does not mean these contributions do not exist.

Canadians fought side-by-side with Americans in Normandy, for one thing. Perhaps you don't consider this to be a contribution?

Canadians also fought as part of the British Commonwealth, not something taught in American history classes, if what my American wife has told me is any measure.

I would also point out that if you take some measure of offense to Hallal's anti-American comments, then perhaps you could find deep down inside you to empathize with my feelings towards your casual dismissal of Canadian troops and the lives they too spent defending freedom and democracy.

Our region is the epitomy of evil, more powerful weapons to aid our future conquests will be required. Please send me the specifications for this weapon upon development and a deal can be negotiated. Nations expressing protest at this will be primary targets, heretic scum.

Evil Emporer Brainchylde, Minister for the exterior Dominion of Evil.

Rebeland is willing to purchase production rights to this esteemed nuclear feat.