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West Iraq military spending up 500%!!

24-12-2003, 23:48
West Iraq is starting a major military program so that it will never be threatened by Tolitarian regimes like Kashmire ever again.

Uranium mining near the coasts has begun.

The "Star Wars" space program is in full effect.

GOALS:

2.5 million troops

New Stealth Research Centers

A Nuclear bomb by the end of January

10 new Tank factories to expand the M1A2 Abrams and Bradley fighting vehicle programs

I am looking for Allies to create a powerful military region. Anyone with brains is welcome. Anyone without brains is welcome.
Doujin
24-12-2003, 23:51
Let me get this straight - you want to have 10.4 % of your population to be in your military? Now is this 2500000 soldiers alone?
24-12-2003, 23:52
The nation will grow and I want all Able bodied men in the military.

They will also be fully equiped.

They will be in terms of 5 years: 18-23 years old and also all people who want to be in the military. I feel this goal is realistic as the country's population will grow and 2.5 million won't seem like a lot.
Eredron
24-12-2003, 23:52
2.5 million troops? By how soon? You'll need to have a population of hundreds of millions first, before this is remotely plausible.

A nuclear bomb by the end of January? IMO, pushing it, but I'm not as lenient on WoMD as others.

When you say your Star Wars program is in full effect, do you mean to say you have already completed it? Be prepared to call yourself a god-moding n00b.


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24-12-2003, 23:56
In full effect as in being fully developed. It's not done yet. It won't be for awhile. These goals are realistic. Not now, but in a few weeks or so.

And, since we harbor 500,000 terroists, we already have some of the troops and technology we need.
Doujin
24-12-2003, 23:58
2.5 million troops(you mean actually fighting men?) well then youd have 7.5 million logistics personnel backing that 2.5 million up making it 10 million troops is just a little short of half your population...
24-12-2003, 23:59
2.5 million in the military total!
Pilot
25-12-2003, 00:02
I say you just leave him. No one will want to RP with him anyway.
Doujin
25-12-2003, 00:03
Alright then, realisitically youi have to many people in your military as is; my military is only 3% of my population, 2,070,000 total. And my population is 69,000,000... yourss is less than half mine, 26,000,000 and you expect to have just about 500000 more troops than me and field them effectively?
Eredron
25-12-2003, 00:04
I say you just leave him. No one will want to RP with him anyway.

I'd rather that the more experienced members of NS try to correct the mistakes and problems made by new players, instead of simply ignoring them, thus perpetuating the problem.


Consul Supreme McCallister
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Doujin
25-12-2003, 00:05
I say you just leave him. No one will want to RP with him anyway.

I'd rather that the more experienced members of NS try to correct the mistakes and problems made by new players, instead of simply ignoring them, thus perpetuating the problem.


Consul Supreme McCallister
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*nod* Exactly :)
Eredron
25-12-2003, 00:05
Alright then, realisitically youi have to many people in your military as is; my military is only 3% of my population, 2,070,000 total. And my population is 69,000,000... yourss is less than half mine, 26,000,000 and you expect to have just about 500000 more troops than me and field them effectively?

Only 3 percent? That's on the high end, Doujin. I believe most people stick closer to the 1-2 percent; I personally go for .05%.


Consul Supreme McCallister
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Archaic Slang Words
25-12-2003, 00:06
[quote=Pilot]I say you just leave him. No one will want to RP with him anyway.

I'd rather that the more experienced members of NS try to correct the mistakes and problems made by new players, instead of simply ignoring them, thus perpetuating the problem.


Consul Supreme McCallister
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I use a very small military... instead, I use geurilla tactics. Maybe you shouldn't focus on brute force. Try starting smaller, tactical assaults first. It tends to work better for someone like you right now.
25-12-2003, 00:07
i thought the rules said no more than 5%
Doujin
25-12-2003, 00:07
Alright then, realisitically youi have to many people in your military as is; my military is only 3% of my population, 2,070,000 total. And my population is 69,000,000... yourss is less than half mine, 26,000,000 and you expect to have just about 500000 more troops than me and field them effectively?

Only 3 percent? That's on the high end, Doujin. I believe most people stick closer to the 1-2 percent; I personally go for .05%.


Consul Supreme McCallister
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Part of that is being trained to help build Naval vessels, since my nation is "technically" run by a Corporation, it would be cheaper to have military personnel work for less and do a lot more.
Doujin
25-12-2003, 00:08
i thought the rules said no more than 5%

What rules? This is Free-Form RP, there are no real rules
Eredron
25-12-2003, 00:12
i thought the rules said no more than 5%

What rules? This is Free-Form RP, there are no real rules

Yes, but there are generally accepted guidelines and unwritten codes of conduct; day old nations are not generally allowed to possess WoMD, and West Iraq cannot have an army of that size without being ignored by many people.
25-12-2003, 00:12
i thought the rules said no more than 5%

What rules? This is Free-Form RP, there are no real rulesWell, actually there are a few realisticality rules... they are posted in the sticky threads in the NS forum.

If you have 1 in 10 people in the military, that's a frikkin lot... that's a good chunk of your workforce down the drain. Not to mention an unimaginable burden on your national budget.
25-12-2003, 00:12
There are guidance lines monsieur doujin. And 3% is allot i have no more then 0.7% or so.
Archaic Slang Words
25-12-2003, 00:12
i thought the rules said no more than 5%

What rules? This is Free-Form RP, there are no real rules

Only guidelines, right?
25-12-2003, 00:14
i thought the rules said no more than 5%

What rules? This is Free-Form RP, there are no real rules

Only guidelines, right?It is free-form, but you have to still be realistic... if you have everyone in your military, how do you handle everything else, like education and workforce and all that? Agriculture? Not to mention the fact that a 2.5 million man army with a national budget of about 10 billion is just insane.
25-12-2003, 00:14
there are some rules but not on war. War is dominated by the stickies, almost everybody follows the stickies in warlike stuff on the forum.
25-12-2003, 00:16
there are some rules but not on war. War is dominated by the stickies, almost everybody follows the stickies in warlike stuff on the forum.it's all just common sense and fair play.

Personally I wouldn't rp with someone who would rather launch 747419 nukes at me than try to invade...
Archaic Slang Words
25-12-2003, 00:17
there are some rules but not on war. War is dominated by the stickies, almost everybody follows the stickies in warlike stuff on the forum.

Depends. I mean, it is fairly leniant here. It just needs to be logical. I mean, you can have a 2.5 mil. man army, but it could only be sustained for like, what, maybe a day at least? What you need to do with large armies is have a lot of it on passive; not actualy involved, but more like sitting in the storage shelves. And if you're going to invade with a lot, again, do it logically: I have this much cash and I want to sustain this many men. How long can I sustain them for with all costs calculated in? Simple.
25-12-2003, 00:17
West Iraq is starting a major military program so that it will never be threatened by Tolitarian regimes like Kashmire ever again.

Uranium mining near the coasts has begun.

The "Star Wars" space program is in full effect.

GOALS:

2.5 million troops

New Stealth Research Centers

A Nuclear bomb by the end of January




You love this war stuff don't you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay Greenisle has officially declared, that if west iraq starts any other conflicts then we will have to put an end to this terrorism. No doubt i will have some small but powerful nation follow us into battle, and end up winning the bloody thing.
10 new Tank factories to expand the M1A2 Abrams and Bradley fighting vehicle programs

I am looking for Allies to create a powerful military region. Anyone with brains is welcome. Anyone without brains is welcome.