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After recently acquiring the rights to the Boeing/Sikorsky "Commanche" Stealth Helicopter from the Pwnica corporation, Raysia Aeromods (makers of the Su-37 E-Type and Su-47-1200) has built two experimental versions of the craft, both utilizing Raysian stealth technology.

The first is an optical cloak testbed:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/comvisible.jpg
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/comcloaked.jpg

The second tests a high-power electric engine for silent flight:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rah66comanche(1).jpg

The first has proved successful in making the plane 99% invisible... though as you can see from the picture you could probably see it if you concentrated on it hard enough, but while flying around it would be hard to track... all of that on top of the chopper's already stealthy features.

The second, being the silent version, has proved worthy as intended, using an engine similar to the Hybrid car engines found in the early 21st century. The aircraft may be refitted with a hydrogen fuel-cell engine for future tests.

Raysia AeroMods intends to mix these two test models together and make a new Full-Stealth Commanche Variant, that is projected to go into mass production by the end of next year, if not sooner.

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig1.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rmtdex.htm)

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd, as with all new advances in aviation, is interested in this new design. Expect large orders from us in the future. That is all.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

OOC:
Heh. So you did take my advice.

Though, how did you solve the cockpit problem? Where you see the pilots and some of the interior?

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd, as with all new advances in aviation, is interested in this new design. Expect large orders from us in the future. That is all.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

OOC:
Heh. So you did take my advice.

Though, how did you solve the cockpit problem? Where you see the pilots and some of the interior?The VisorScreen system, used on the advanced fighters to allow 360x360 view for the pilots, is used on the cloak variant so that pilot can see through a shutter that covers the cockpit glass. The shutter also provides armor and protection for the pilot and navigator.

OOC: and yes, I did take your advice, and bought the first ones I could find ;)

Does it have anything to counter Infrared or other modes of detection such as Radar? I'm also curious as to the details of how your first example works... it's it active camoflague or something more advanced?

The RAH-66 Comanche is extremely stealthy to begin with - it's IR signature is half of that of the Apache as I understand it.

I don't read into these things, or at least I didn't... I'm gonna have more time after Christmas and I intend to do some research. But try to explain things like you would to someone who doesn't know all military background behind every peice of kit on the field.

Timothy Dale, Legate from the Kingdom of Chancellory, writes,
"The Kingdom of Chancellory is incredibly interested in such technology. While we already have begun mobilization on a new line of reverse engineered Comanches, the optical obfuscation technology is quite appealing, and is worth much to us. We would love to buy the production plans and rights to the cloaking technology applicable to the Comanche."

Does it have anything to counter Infrared or other modes of detection such as Radar? I'm also curious as to the details of how your first example works... it's it active camoflague or something more advanced?Oh, that was in another thread... It is active camoflauge, using a series of cameras displaying images onto multi-faceted liquid crystal displays on the skin of the craft, which will project the image on the opposite angle of the plane no matter what angle you look at it.

The RL commanche is already radar stealthy, having no rigid surfaces visible (Loadout pylons deploy by folding out of the sides and belly when firing).

As far as infrared, this gives off very little heat, having no combusting parts when in stealth mode, and what IR it does give off is vented carefully.

If you REALLY wanted to try to see this thing, you could... but as far as sneak attacks go, this is the best you could possibly ask for.

Timothy Dale, Legate from the Kingdom of Chancellory, writes,
"The Kingdom of Chancellory is incredibly interested in such technology. While we already have begun mobilization on a new line of reverse engineered Comanches, the optical obfuscation technology is quite appealing, and is worth much to us. We would love to buy the production plans and rights to the cloaking technology applicable to the Comanche.":mrgreen:

:mrgreen: = No way in hell am I gonna let you sell my best products at rival prices... go capitalism! =D

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Lmfao.

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Lmfao.ooc: I stopped selling production rights when I opened up my new storefront website... I realized how stupid it was. The last person to by rights from me was Doujin... and he had waaay too much money to spend (gave me 500 billion :) ) And that was for an out of date Raysian fighter! LOL

:!:
Well his storefront IS doing well.

Timothy Dale, Legate from the Kingdom of Chancellory, writes,
"Perhaps you misunderstand me, honorable delegate from Raysia. Our country only wishes to purchase said technology and to produce it for their own aircraft. As a personal preference, we're loathe to selling our technology, and as an agreement, we would not sell any variants of the obfuscation technology, if presented with it."

Pwnica, I sold production rights for an airplane for 30 trillion dollars to a nation almost a year old.. so yea.

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Well his storefront IS doing well.ooc: someone gave him 30 trillion dollars... I don't get this... he's triplefolding my budget lol

The Imperium is greatly interested in this technology, and wishes to work out some sort of production deal that would meet with your approval.

Timothy Dale, Legate from the Kingdom of Chancellory, writes,
"Perhaps you misunderstand me, honorable delegate from Raysia. Our country only wishes to purchase said technology and to produce it for their own aircraft. As a personal preference, we're loathe to selling our technology, and as an agreement, we would not sell any variants of the obfuscation technology, if presented with it."In that case, non-trade production rights will go for... 10 billion. That should pay for itself after say... 1000 craft.

The Imperium is greatly interested in this technology, and wishes to work out some sort of production deal that would meet with your approval.Same as above.

In that case, non-trade production rights will go for... 10 billion. That should pay for itself after say... 1000 craft.

Done. Shall we wire the money now?

In that case, non-trade production rights will go for... 10 billion. That should pay for itself after say... 1000 craft.

Done. Shall we wire the money now?lol I would assume you want to see a final version before then ;) but sure.

Chancellorian Official Invoice
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Item Qty Cost
Cloak Production Tech. 1 100 Billion
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Total: 100 Billion (Wired upon display of this message)

Chancellorian Official Invoice
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Item Qty Cost
Cloak Production Tech. 1 100 Billion
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Total: 100 Billion (Wired upon display of this message)

You put an extra "0" there :lol:

Chancellorian Official Invoice
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Item Qty Cost
Cloak Production Tech. 1 100 Billion
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Total: 100 Billion (Wired upon display of this message)Cloak only? That's 5 billion.

The International Delegate from Chancellory thanks you, and would notify you that the fallible accountants possible for this error have been shot. The amount was successfully changed to 5 billion before transfer. In any event, when might we expect delivery?

We'd like to buy the Cloak tech as well.
5 billion, was it?
*Wired*
Oh, and if you're going to sell the modified Comanche's we're gnna buy those too, for...special operations.

The International Delegate from Chancellory thanks you, and would notify you that the fallible accountants possible for this error have been shot. The amount was successfully changed to 5 billion before transfer. In any event, when might we expect delivery?Immediately. Secure documents as well as tech samples are on their way.

*joins the bandwagon*

Cloak tech. please, 5 billioni for production rights - wired upon confirmation ;)

We'd like to buy the Cloak tech as well.
5 billion, was it?
*Wired*
Oh, and if you're going to sell the modified Comanche's we're gnna buy those too, for...special operations.Yep. Same as above.

*joins the bandwagon*

Cloak tech. please, 5 billioni for production rights - wired upon confirmation ;).... sorry, price just rose, 10 billion ;)

hey! :roll: taking advantage of me I see.

*wired* :roll:

hey! :roll: taking advantage of me I see.

*wired* :roll:Hey man, supply and demand... lots of people want me to supply, so i demand more for.. umm... lost profits! ;)

Confirmed, inbound.

OOC Are the 'copters on sale now, or are they still in production?

OOC Are the 'copters on sale now, or are they still in production?Are you kidding? We don't even have a prototype lol these are just testbeds!

We'll have a prototype by the middle of next year (tomorrow) and it'll be ready just in time for Christmas ;)

OOC Are the 'copters on sale now, or are they still in production?Are you kidding? We don't even have a prototype lol these are just testbeds!

We'll have a prototype by the middle of next year (tomorrow) and it'll be ready just in time for Christmas ;)

Oh right, OK. Could I order some now (because I'm going out early tomorrow, and won't come home for a few days....

OOC Are the 'copters on sale now, or are they still in production?Are you kidding? We don't even have a prototype lol these are just testbeds!

We'll have a prototype by the middle of next year (tomorrow) and it'll be ready just in time for Christmas ;)

Oh right, OK. Could I order some now (because I'm going out early tomorrow, and won't come home for a few days....umm... lol sure I guess... projected price is 80 million per.

Cloak Tech works on ALL planes?
And tanks?
Anyway, 15 billion wired(a little fee :wink:

Cloak Tech works on ALL planes?
And tanks?
Anyway, 15 billion wired(a little fee :wink:yes, I suppose it would work on everything :)

And thank you for pre-empting my price jump lol but 10 billion will be fine. *5 billion reimbursed*
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OK, no more cloak tech sales.

OK. Sorry to bother you about this. Could I preorder 20 then?

OK. Sorry to bother you about this. Could I preorder 20 then?sure. We'll deliver them in the first batch. 1.6 billion due.

Great, thanks.

~~Money Wired~~

Guess this makes Falastur the first (modern-tech) nation to use cloaking in its military, eh? :D :D

Thanks Raysia :D

Guess this makes Falastur the first (modern-tech) nation to use cloaking in its military, eh? :D :D

Thanks Raysia :Di consider myself modern... I am <2020 tech level ;)

Guess this makes Falastur the first (modern-tech) nation to use cloaking in its military, eh? :D :D

Thanks Raysia :Di consider myself modern... I am <2020 tech level ;)

True. Second. And on a different subject, I've hit the 1000 posts mark :D

Guess this makes Falastur the first (modern-tech) nation to use cloaking in its military, eh? :D :D

Thanks Raysia :Di consider myself modern... I am <2020 tech level ;)

True. Second. And on a different subject, I've hit the 1000 posts mark :Dnice... at this rate you got 16 months before postmaster general ;)

Nice :mrgreen:

Would you mind using some of my electronics?

Can I detail them to you here?

Nice :mrgreen:

Would you mind using some of my electronics?

Can I detail them to you here?Umm, sure go ahead... though I don't know what you could supply over the ones the original plane came with.

Keep in mind, too much active electronics will probably screw the stealthiness.

nice... at this rate you got 16 months before postmaster general ;)

lol, yeah, although that's not quite true. I quit the forums for some reason a coupla months ago, came back about 1 month ago with 520 posts. So at this rate, it'll be postmater-general in what? 8 months? Still ages....I'll have to see what I can do :wink:

Our proudest system is the JTIDS, Joint Tactical Information Distribution System. This computer allows information to be passed quickly and efficiently to other helicopter, ground units and aircraft. This gives great scout capability, in that information can be passed with the use of cameras and imagers, and automatically passed on.

The targeting system is second to none. Using easy controls via the screens in the cockpit, targets can be assigned and aimed at with ease. The targeting system automatically targets the cannon where the helmet sensors are pointed, or are trained on targets assigned. All payloads are targeted easily and weapons catered for by the computer and profiles are merged, via Thermal, Heat seeking sensors that can be targeted.

The supercomputer that runs it all is liquid nitrogen cooled and very, very small. Still, it can manage the flight controls, targeting and JTIDS in nanoseconds. It allows for learning, and can be automatically programmed to do certain things. Target info can even be passed on mid mission.

Our proudest system is the JTIDS, Joint Tactical Information Distribution System. This computer allows information to be passed quickly and efficiently to other helicopter, ground units and aircraft. This gives great scout capability, in that information can be passed with the use of cameras and imagers, and automatically passed on.

The targeting system is second to none. Using easy controls via the screens in the cockpit, targets can be assigned and aimed at with ease. The targeting system automatically targets the cannon where the helmet sensors are pointed, or are trained on targets assigned. All payloads are targeted easily and weapons catered for by the computer and profiles are merged, via Thermal, Heat seeking sensors that can be targeted.

The supercomputer that runs it all is liquid nitrogen cooled and very, very small. Still, it can manage the flight controls, targeting and JTIDS in nanoseconds. It allows for learning, and can be automatically programmed to do certain things. Target info can even be passed on mid mission.Oh, right, well we have our own ways of doing the same thing... kinda necessary when you have a nation where more than half the air force is unmanned ;)

Yeh, but still. If it's manned, its gotta have JTIDS or something along those lines. My electronics are my proudest innovation.

Yeh, but still. If it's manned, its gotta have JTIDS or something along those lines. My electronics are my proudest innovation.yes, like I said, we got something along those lines. The Navigator has a display of the entire battlefield with him at all times, and can see everything for hundreds of miles... that is why most of our manned planes now have 2 crewmen :)

Cool.

But JTIDS isnt like that. It passes on information, automatically to sources given. It is for scouting and stuff. It can still do the same job as your thing.

The targetting system isnt as advanced, but it's still good. And the ubercomputer is a wopper....liquid nitrogen cooled :D

bump

AeroMods engineers have successfully completed a test model of the Commanchee which integrates both systems, and amazingly 6 months ahead of schedule! They have tested it and proven it up to standards, using the original Hybrid (Gasoline and Electric) engine from the 2nd model.

They are now working on creating a clone of it with another Commanchee, then one more from the ground up.

These should be in full production by the end of summer (a few hours)

Testing complete, adding to storefront immediately.

added: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/comm.htm